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HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:21 PM Everybody needs to start their own fire
Everybody needs a ride of their own
Everybody needs to be somethin' that their not
Everybody needs to go it alone
(Chorus)
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't be what you wanna be
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't see what you need to see
And all the time spent hangin' onto anything
And all the time spent knowin' that their wrong
And all the time wasted stolen back innocent
You won't get a second more so move it along
(Chorus) x2
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't be what you wanna be
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't see what you need to see
Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' it's you
Who's got this all under control
Never a minute has pasted you a bow
And the heaven invaded your soul
It's like somethin' you can hold
It's like somethin' you own
It's like somethin' you can buy or steal
Ya got it when you're alone
Fee and fray is a tragedy
When you don't know yourself
Fee and fray is a tragedy
When you don't know who you are
(Chorus) x2
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't be what you wanna be
Livin' so free is a tragedy
When you can't see what you need to see
Let's go!
Hey! Hey! Hey!
Alright now
This is a story of your love hey
*note- New song so I couldn't find any actual lyrics. I listened to the song over and over but I am still sure some of this is wrong
Magic Man 03-28-2003, 10:22 PM shut up, I hate hockey.
Curly Howard 03-28-2003, 10:22 PM Let's go Blues Let's go Blues Let's go Blues Let's go Blues
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:23 PM what the **** is a cannuck?
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:25 PM Free by Powerman 5000
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:26 PM A canuck is another term for a Canadian.....similar to how a yankee is another term for an American
realkaps 03-28-2003, 10:34 PM Where are these names originated?
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:35 PM i thought yankee is what im going to do while watchin ****
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:42 PM The Origin of the Word Canuck
According to Bart Bandy’s Lexicon of Canadian Etymology (Don Mills, Ont., C. Farquharson, 1994), the term evolved from the French word canule around the time of the American Revolution; but its path of evolution is still not clear. The most likely possibility is that it rose from a mispronunciation among Benedict Arnold’s forces as they laid siege to Quebec in the winter of ’76. According to Bandy, the comte de Theleme-Menteuse was one of the locals captured by the ragtag Americans. In his Contes bizarre d’Isle (sic) d’Orleans, the latter says that the Americans picked up the common phrase "Quelle canule," but they were usually shivering so hard when they said it that it came out with the "l" hardened into a glottal stop – thence a "k."
On the other hand, Montgomery, Arnold’s co-commander on the Canadian expedition, says that Arnold, who loved word-play, made a joke on the word "canule" that was picked up by his troops. In discussing the strategic value of placing troops at the mouth of the St. Lawrence to resist the British fleet expected in the spring, Arnold noted the peculiar shape of the Gaspe Peninsula and exclaimed, "There’s a canule to make his majesty gasp." One assumes that the same shivering effect noted previously led to the mispronunciation.
Yet another possibility comes from the German mercernaries who were captured with Burgoyne’s army at Saratoga. Held in prison camps in Pennsylvania, after Yorktown they were offered repatriation to Canada where they had spent several months camped near present-day Ottawa waiting for Burgoyne to get his gear together. Their universal protestation when return to the "Plains of Ottawa" was offered them was, "Nein! Nein! Genug von Kanada." They opted, instead, to become Pennsylvania Dutch. The English speaking Americans around them picked up the phrase (part of "Pulling the Lion’s Tail" no doubt) and compressed "Genug von Kanada" into "Genug Kanada," and so on. While this seems somewhat far-fetched, it does offer a reasonable explanation for the "k" in a word supposedly derived from French, especially as it was often spelled "Kanuck" during the 19th Century.
Bandy also suggests that there is some evidence of the word originating among the "down-easters" of Maine who had picked up "Quelle Canule" from their French speaking neighbors and applied it when facing the navigational difficulties caused by the peculiar "flushing" effect of the famed tides of the Bay of FUNdy. ("Down-easter," by the way, has an interesting etymology of its own.)
Another possibility that occurs to me, though there is no mention in Bandy, is that the many Scots who came to the Great White North during the late 18th and early 19th centuries quickly absorbed "Quelle canule" into their working vocabulary. Being Scots, they would, of course, swallow the end of canule and apply a mild glottal stop, ending up with something very like "Quelle canuhgk." I haven’t had a chance to research this yet, so it remains in the area of supposition
realkaps 03-28-2003, 10:43 PM Nobody will read that....
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:43 PM "Canuck" Defined
One of the most common questions I get asked when we travel into the USA to cheer on the Canucks is "What's a Canuck?" The simple answer is "a Canadian". The complete answer takes a little more explanation.
Years ago, I was watching a sports commentary show where the topic was team names. During an interview with Stan Fischler, the New York sports reporter commented that he didn't like the name "Canucks" because it was an offensive term (worse than "Redskins" or "Indians"). What was he talking about? We all know that "Canuck" is just another word for "Canadian".
In a seemingly unrelated story, I had just installed a copy of WordPerfect on my computer. WordPerfect has many great features, including a grammar checker (so much for thinking that I'm a pretty good writer). After producing a road trip brochure, I thought I'd give the grammar checker a try. The first thing it found:
CANUCK: Avoid this offensive term. Consider revising.
Huh? So, now we have to change the name of our hockey team? I don't think so.
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Okay, so just exactly what is a Canuck and why is it an offensive term? Then again, if the word is so insulting, why did they name our team the "Canucks"? Off to the library I went.
The first dictionary I checked reported:
CANUCK () n. Slang. Canadian [sometimes offensive or patronizing in non-Canadian use]. Origin obscure.
Boy, when they said "origin obscure" they weren't kidding. It seemed like every dictionary had a different origin for the word. One suggested that the word came from CANUC which is used vulgarly and rather contemptuously for Canadian. Another suggested that it came from CONNAUGHT which was a nickname given by French Canadians to describe Irish Canadians in the early 1800's.
Finally, there was a suggestion that "Canuck" began as the Hawaiian word KANAKA which represented a south sea islander (no, not a New York Islander). It seems that French Canadians and these islanders were both employed in the Pacific Northwest fur trade and the term was used to describe them. The theory is that the word evolved, taking "CAN" from "Canadian" and adding it to "AKA" to form CANAK (CANUCK).
Wherever the word came from, by the mid 1800's "Canuck" was regularly used to describe a Canadian.
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In the 1860's, editorial cartoonists created a character by the name of "Johnny Canuck". Johnny was used to represent Canada, just as Uncle Sam represented the United States. Johnny Canuck was depicted as a wholesome young man, wearing the garb of a habitant, farmer, logger, rancher or soldier. Johnny was often drawn resisting the bullying of Uncle Sam. Boy, we could use someone like that now to keep our NHL teams in Canada.
Johnny had one flaw -- he wasn't too bright. This may explain something. Let's say your best friend comes up to you, pats you on the back and calls you a goof. You laugh it off. On the other hand, if someone you had never met did the same thing, you might take them out back and settle the issue. Maybe that's why Canadians can call themselves Canucks and be proud of it, but don't let those darn Yankees call us Canucks!
During World War II, a new comic book hero was introduced. His name was also Johnny Canuck. This time, Mr. Canuck was a caped strong man who protected Canadians from the Nazi menace. Johnny Canuck had no special powers, but he waged a one man war against Hitler with human strengths belonging to any fine fighting Canuck. Even today, tell someone from Holland that you are a Canuck and they will thank you for liberating their country from the Nazis.
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So, now we have the Canadian image of a Canuck. Powerful (not superhuman but capable). A defender of Canada. A fighter. A tough guy (in spirit and in body). Sounds like a hockey player.
When Vancouver was admitted to the Pacific Coast Hockey League in 1946, they seized upon the image of a team of Canucks. The name worked. Despite the fact that we don't hear much about Johnny Canuck anymore, the term "Canuck" still represents the best qualities of being a Canadian.
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:43 PM lingustics can be fun!
Curly Howard 03-28-2003, 10:44 PM I read it........well no I didn't
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:44 PM Originally posted by kaps
Nobody will read that....
You asked, I answered..I didn't read it either
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:45 PM I lied, linguistics licks balls.
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:48 PM I thought you liked licking balls?
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:49 PM only hairy ones.
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:51 PM Are Tanner's hairy?
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:52 PM like a monkey.
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:55 PM Allison allows this?
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:57 PM She doesnt want to touch him, she is happy to let it happen.
HockeyFighter 03-28-2003, 10:58 PM good deal then
zioxoiz 03-28-2003, 10:59 PM I am here to help.
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