I would say rocky would have been far to small to beat lewis, what do you guys think?

I would say rocky would have been far to small to beat lewis, what do you guys think?

rocky had trouble getting on the inside against walcott early on, i just think lewis would out jab him to a ud

rocky had trouble getting on the inside against walcott early on, i just think lewis would out jab him to a ud


Exactly the way i see it duffgun, although marciano is obviously a much better heavyweight than david tua is i see lewis dominate him in that way.

I also think Lewis would be way to big for him.

I agree. I met Lewis several times and he is very tall. I just can't see Rocky getting to him. The size and Lewis's jab would be a difference.

Rocky 185 pounds, 5'10-1/4" - reach of 67" or 68"
Lewis 245 pounds, 6'5" - reach of 84"

Lewis was great at fighting the short guys that tried to get in. See Tua and Tyson (Two guys who most say hit harder than Rocky)
Lewis jabs away all night and uses his strength to clinch and out muscle Rocky whenever he tries to get inside. Either Lewis by UD or late stoppage.

I would say rocky would have been far to small to beat lewis, what do you guys think?

i think rocky would have wiped the floor with lewis, i think lewis was the most overated heavyweight around. I know tyson would have done the same if they fought back when mike was more disceplned.

Lewis was great at fighting the short guys that tried to get in. See Tua and Tyson (Two guys who most say hit harder than Rocky)
Lewis jabs away all night and uses his strength to clinch and out muscle Rocky whenever he tries to get inside. Either Lewis by UD or late stoppage.


If you ever watched the tapes of the "Main Event" TV Show of Rocky's he said that he needed room to throw his Big Bombs and that he never liked fighting inside.

So that their would put him in a Big disadvantage.

If you ever watched the tapes of the "Main Event" TV Show of Rocky's he said that he needed room to throw his Big Bombs and that he never liked fighting inside.

So that their would put him in a Big disadvantage.

definatly. His prefered fighting zone would actually be the danger zone in this fight. The amount of straight rights he'd be taking would be harmful.

i think rocky would have wiped the floor with lewis, i think lewis was the most overated heavyweight around. I know tyson would have done the same if they fought back when mike was more disceplned.

Disagree as great as Marciano was, he was too small and slow to compete with Lewis. Lewis is underated not overated. He is in the top4 of all time when you just take achievments into account. He reigned for 9years in total, made 14 defenses, was a 3 time champ and unfied the belts. Just because he got sloppy and kod twice, both defeats he avenged people give him a bad rap and say he had a bad chin. There is no way you can say you know Tyson would have wiped the floor with him, no one knows, you can have your opinion but you don't know for certain. Mike Tyson actually said after his defeat to Lewis, "This guy just gets better and better and I don't think I could have ever beat him". I'm not saying Lewis would have won IMO, I think it would have more than likely gone two ways. Either Tyson KO's him by 6 rounds or Lewis wins a decision or stops him late. They were both great fighters, my opinion Lewis was greater. Now back to what the thread should be about which is Marciano versus Lewis, as I said Lewis I think would be too big and skillful and eventually wear him down, but with Rocky's stamina which was better than Lewis's and his tremendous power he would have always had a chance of landing a haymaker, and Rocky could knock out anyone.

Marciano's defense is too porous to be able to outlast lewis. Lewis stops him late with big right hands. Marciano wold be in over his head here.

This fight sucks; Lennox had difficulty with anyone his size, but never with shorter guys.

But he probably couldn't knock Marciano out.

Lennox UD 120-105 Rocky

I would go with Lennox either wide UD or a TKO on cuts while leading by a landslide on cards

Lennox would kick the living daylights out of 185lb Marciano- anyone who thinks different is deluded or still watching in Black and White.

Styles make fights and this stylistic matchup is reminiscent of Foreman - Frazier. I just don't see how a short, short-armed slugger like Marciano (or Tyson for that matter) for that matter can win against a tall, long-armed fighter who has one-punch KO power.

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Lewis is ko'd in the 2nd round by a straight right. His gloves are down.

And Frazier was pretty unhealthy (very Holyfield-ish-mid-90's-slide-type) for Foreman I, and I feel pretty confidently that had they had laser surgery for eyes back then he had the right plan to BEAT Foreman in the second fight. But he went blind like in the 14th rd. of the Thrilla, damn contacts.

I agree. I met Lewis several times and he is very tall. I just can't see Rocky getting to him. The size and Lewis's jab would be a difference.

Rocky 185 pounds, 5'10-1/4" - reach of 67" or 68"
Lewis 245 pounds, 6'5" - reach of 84"

Remember when Ali and Wilt Chamberlain were dicussing having an exhibition bout between them? Remember the publicity photo where they were each in a suit and each had an arm outstretched in a fist to show the reach of them both? Wilt the stilt was 7 inches taller than the 6'3" Ali and Wilt dwarfed him.

The same here, only Lewis hit harder punch for punch than Ali. Lewis, 7 inches taller than "The Rock" would win 100 out of 100 times. I tried to envision how Rocky could win in this match up. I can't see it, under any plausible sceneario.

Al Weil would never make this fight.

Lewis is ko'd in the 2nd round by a straight right. His gloves are down.

And Frazier was pretty unhealthy (very Holyfield-ish-mid-90's-slide-type) for Foreman I, and I feel pretty confidently that had they had laser surgery for eyes back then he had the right plan to BEAT Foreman in the second fight. But he went blind like in the 14th rd. of the Thrilla, damn contacts.

I talked to Frazier several times and he told me that Foreman just had the style and power to beat. He also said Foreman would have done so no matter what.

Remember when Ali and Wilt Chamberlain were dicussing having an exhibition bout between them? Remember the publicity photo where they were each in a suit and each had an arm outstretched in a fist to show the reach of them both? Wilt the stilt was 7 inches taller than the 6'3" Ali and Wilt dwarfed him.

The same here, only Lewis hit harder punch for punch than Ali. Lewis, 7 inches taller than "The Rock" would win 100 out of 100 times. I tried to envision how Rocky could win in this match up. I can't see it, under any plausible sceneario.

Al Weil would never make this fight.


I agree with most. I do think if Rocky landed one of his Big Bombs he could stop Lewis, BUT that might ne wishful thinking.

Remember, Rocky only fought 1 boxer that was rated in the top 10 that was over 6' and weighed over 200 pounds, and that was Louis.

Moore was 5'11" - 188 pounds
****ell was 5'11" - 205 pounds
Charles was 6'0" - 185½ & 192½
LaStarza was 6'0" - 187 & 184¾ pounds
Walcott was 6'0" - 196½ & 197¾
Matthews - 5'10¾ - 179 pounds
Layne - was 193
AND Louis who was 6'2" by BoxRec, and weighed 213¾ when he fought Rocky.

I agree with most. I do think if Rocky landed one of his Big Bombs he could stop Lewis, BUT that might ne wishful thinking.

Remember, Rocky only fought 1 boxer that was rated in the top 10 that was over 6' and weighed over 200 pounds, and that was Louis.

Moore was 5'11" - 188 pounds
****ell was 5'11" - 205 pounds
Charles was 6'0" - 185½ & 192½
LaStarza was 6'0" - 187 & 184¾ pounds
Walcott was 6'0" - 196½ & 197¾
Matthews - 5'10¾ - 179 pounds
Layne - was 193
AND Louis who was 6'2" by BoxRec, and weighed 213¾ when he fought Rocky.

Actually, Don ****ell was rated #2 at the time Marciano fought him.:fing02:

Wow, the Lewis that fought Tua would have probably got KTFO by Marciano. If the also 5'10" Tua could jump over Lewis jab and hit the left hook, so could Rocky. The difference being that Marciano would do it more often while being able to follow it up with an equally dangerous right, uppercut, or other heavy punch. Unlike Tua, Rocky also had head movement and wouldn't have a problem finding his way around Lewis' pawing left. Tua just put his hands up and tried to sluggishly walk through it, only to find Lewis has done side stepped him in most instances. Rocky should be able to pick his momemnt and go right to the body or chin with a punishing shot. Tua might have more natural power than Rocky, but he wasn't the puncher or overall fighter.

Wow, the Lewis that fought Tua would have probably got KTFO by Marciano. If the also 5'10" Tua could jump over Lewis pawing jab and hit the left hook, so could Rocky. The difference being that Marciano would do it more often while being able to follow it up with an equally dangerous right, uppercut, or other heavy punch. Unlike Tua, Rocky also had head movement and wouldn't have a problem finding his way around Lewis' somewhat lazy jab. Tua just put his hands up and tried to sluggishly walk through it, only to find Lewis has done side stepped him in most instances. Rocky should be able to pick his momemnt and go right to the body or chin with a punishing shot. Tua might have more natural power than Rocky, but he wasn't the puncher or overall fighter.

I think Rocky would have a good chance with his power (we all know Lewis' chin was suceptible), but that size and speed advantage is hard to overcome, no matter how determined you are.:fing02:

Actually, Don ****ell was rated #2 at the time Marciano fought him.:fing02:

I know, I said Rocky fought only 1 boxer that was in the Top 10 that was over 6' and weighed more then 200 pounds.

Here they are again. This is a list of all the Top 10 Contenders that Rocky fought (8 different boxers 11 times).

Moore was 5'11" - 188 pounds
****ell was 5'11" - 205 pounds
Charles was 6'0" - 185½ & 192½
LaStarza was 6'0" - 187 & 184¾ pounds
Walcott was 6'0" - 196½ & 197¾
Matthews - 5'10¾ - 179 pounds
Layne - was 193
AND Louis who was 6'2" by BoxRec, and weighed 213¾ when he fought Rocky.

I know, I said Rocky fought only 1 boxer that was in the Top 10 that was over 6' and weighed more then 200 pounds.

Here they are again. This is a list of all the Top 10 Contenders that Rocky fought (8 different boxers 11 times).

Moore was 5'11" - 188 pounds
****ell was 5'11" - 205 pounds
Charles was 6'0" - 185½ & 192½
LaStarza was 6'0" - 187 & 184¾ pounds
Walcott was 6'0" - 196½ & 197¾
Matthews - 5'10¾ - 179 pounds
Layne - was 193
AND Louis who was 6'2" by BoxRec, and weighed 213¾ when he fought Rocky.

Oh, I didn't see the over 6' part. Sorry.:o