View Full Version : I got a problem.. Serious answers and thoughts please.


DA1CATAS
09-19-2007, 07:42 PM
I fight on Saturday for a BELT...

My usual weight is 165 .. but I just got off the scale and I'm 172.2.

I don't really check my weight ever so this comes as a surprise to me.. since i've changed nothing in my diet at all...

trainer wants me to move to 178 for tournaments.. I wanna go back down to 165.


The fight on saturday is catch weight of 10 pounds.. so its 10 above or below. So 165 is not a must but thats been my weight to fight at forever since I got in good shape.


What do some of you guys think about me going to 178? or should i just go back to 165.. which I really didn't even realize i left to be serious. I feel so irresponsible being so close to the fight.

SpeedKillz
09-19-2007, 07:53 PM
I fight on Saturday for a BELT...

My usual weight is 165 .. but I just got off the scale and I'm 172.2.

I don't really check my weight ever so this comes as a surprise to me.. since i've changed nothing in my diet at all...

trainer wants me to move to 178 for tournaments.. I wanna go back down to 165.


The fight on saturday is catch weight of 10 pounds.. so its 10 above or below. So 165 is not a must but thats been my weight to fight at forever since I got in good shape.


What do some of you guys think about me going to 178? or should i just go back to 165.. which I really didn't even realize i left to be serious. I feel so irresponsible being so close to the fight.


well, u gotta check your weight each week yo, make sure ur close to where u wanna be at and ****. based on ur vids and posts, u look to be in great shape, and strong too, so i dont see 178 as a problem for u. i was in the same exact situation as you, and i stayed at 178 (well 175 actually) and i feel great at the weight. (though after this fight on saturday im goin back down cuz i feel strongest and most comfortable at 165). you could probly make 165 if u really wanted to by saturday, but if there is catch weight allowed, i wouldnt sweat it. dont be too hard on urself for lettin ur weight go up, that will happen if u dont watch ur weight often, but its all good cuz im sure u could drop it in no time. go in there and fight at whatever weight ur at now, and see how u feel at a little bit of a higher weight. i thought i would hate it too and i wuld be to weak and slow, but as long as ur in shape and train hard, that weight wont hinder u i dont tihnk. it depends how u look at it. like me personally, i got quick hands and i got a MEAN ass left hook, so i like to fight at 165 cuz my power is good down there, and i thought at 178 it wouldnt be, but i could still bang. im goin back down cuz i can bang alot harder at 65 though lol. so there really aint no way of tellin u wut to do, jus fight at the higher weight on saturday and see wuts up, if u dont like it, back down u go, if u do like it, u can fight there and always go down later if u need to. my two cents.

fraidycat
09-19-2007, 09:36 PM
^^^^ If catch weight is allowed, stay where you're strong. :boxing:

You'd be savage as a light heavy, IMO.

Azteca
09-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Weight is an issue but unless he's cutting from 200, I think youll be fine. With headgear and the amateur system being alot safer...skill really is the only difference maker. If you're better then him...you'll win. Simple as that. Stay where you're comfortable.

And you shouldn't really be asking guys on a forum for advice. Talk to your coach.

Verstyle
09-19-2007, 09:41 PM
It depends on how much power you have,if you got alot of power I would move up,but it also depends on your height also. The higher they go.The less movement they're going to have.So you can tee off on them more. If you go down you might lose the weight the wrong way and drain yourself,but you would still have the power to compete,but the ppl at that weight class are going to be moving faster. Also if you go up,most likely alot of those guys probably drained themselves to get to that weight,but you didnt,so you would be fresher. Also lighter if you come alittle under the required weight.

It comes down to your confidence.If you're confident that you can go toe to toe with the big boys then do that ****!!

Verstyle
09-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Weight is an issue but unless he's cutting from 200, I think youll be fine. With headgear and the amateur system being alot safer...skill really is the only difference maker. If you're better then him...you'll win. Simple as that. Stay where you're comfortable.

And you shouldn't really be asking guys on a forum for advice. Talk to your coach.

Hey I used too and I still do,that **** works if you're a listener.

Azteca
09-19-2007, 09:44 PM
Hey I used too and I still do,that **** works if you're a listener.

Maybe if you're a beginner. But by the looks of things this guy looks like a beast. You should ask all your weight related to issues to a guy thats probably been there - done that....your coach.

Verstyle
09-19-2007, 09:47 PM
Maybe if you're a beginner. But by the looks of things this guy looks like a beast. You should ask all your weight related to issues to a guy thats probably been there - done that....your coach.

Well now I ask alot of my question to my NEW coach that knows what he's talking about,but it doesnt hurt to have other opinions.

DA1CATAS
09-19-2007, 10:40 PM
Weight is an issue but unless he's cutting from 200, I think youll be fine. With headgear and the amateur system being alot safer...skill really is the only difference maker. If you're better then him...you'll win. Simple as that. Stay where you're comfortable.

And you shouldn't really be asking guys on a forum for advice. Talk to your coach.

I'd be the first guy to say what you just said...

...But my bull**** trainers won't even be at the fight...

"We have other obligations besides being trainers we won't be able to make it. You don't have to fight if you don't want to!!"

I have already got in contact with someone to work my corner. I'm fighting New coach or not...The belts mine and I aint gonna let it just go away with some otha n!gga...


Stupid **** like this really pisses me off.. I mean wheres the ****in respect... bust my ass 6 days a week for you guys when you only show up 4 or 5 and now you don't even give me a week-heads up that you won't be at the fight.

Wha da ****... you think i'm doin this **** only for my health... Mafuccas I'm trynna win.


I envy you guys with good trainers that actually ****in train you.. ****in jackasses... And surely enough i'll be back at the gym on monday to start this **** all over again.

PunchDrunk
09-19-2007, 10:47 PM
Hard question. 7lbs could be hard, for such a short period of time. 172 is too little to fight at 178 though. My gut would say go for 165 this time. If it's too hard, don't take the fight, and spend a little time putting on more weight (you should be walking around at 185, if you're gonna fight 178 anyway..) for next time.

I once tried to make 141 for a tournament. Made 142, and fought at 152, totally drained and giving away 10lbs...

DA1CATAS
09-19-2007, 10:49 PM
Hard question. 7lbs could be hard, for such a short period of time. 172 is too little to fight at 178 though. My gut would say go for 165 this time. If it's too hard, don't take the fight, and spend a little time putting on more weight (you should be walking around at 185, if you're gonna fight 178 anyway..) for next time.

I once tried to make 141 for a tournament. Made 142, and fought at 152, totally drained and giving away 10lbs...

So you think fighting at 10pds. catch weight will be bad for me? even if I make 170?

Verstyle
09-19-2007, 10:50 PM
I guess me and Speedkillz post doesnt get recognition,how ruuuude!!:blackeye: Just ****in with ya.haha

PunchDrunk
09-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Well, catch weight would be an agreement where you both weigh something less than 178 or more than 165, like say, 170. In that case you wouldn't be giving much up, and that would probably be the best thing that could happen. I doubt they'll let you, if it's for some sort of title though....

And yes, trying to make 165, ending up at a drained 168-170, and fighting 178 is certainly not the best idea I ever heard. ;)

DA1CATAS
09-19-2007, 11:08 PM
I guess me and Speedkillz post doesnt get recognition,how ruuuude!!:blackeye: Just ****in with ya.haha

I read both of yours... they both make me question myself which don't normally do... so I really don't have a response.... they both just made me think.

DA1CATAS
09-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Well, catch weight would be an agreement where you both weigh something less than 178 or more than 165, like say, 170. In that case you wouldn't be giving much up, and that would probably be the best thing that could happen. I doubt they'll let you, if it's for some sort of title though....

And yes, trying to make 165, ending up at a drained 168-170, and fighting 178 is certainly not the best idea I ever heard. ;)

Well I'm ashamed of my self for even bringing this point up.. But there is a chance I could fight someone 10 pounds below me...

Verstyle
09-19-2007, 11:12 PM
I was joking with ya,hence the white typing.

SpeedKillz
09-19-2007, 11:18 PM
I guess me and Speedkillz post doesnt get recognition,how ruuuude!!:blackeye: Just ****in with ya.haha

haha lol that cracked me up vers LOL...

PunchDrunk
09-20-2007, 06:36 AM
Well I'm ashamed of my self for even bringing this point up.. But there is a chance I could fight someone 10 pounds below me...

I doubt it very much. Don't know how much they'd bend the rules over there, though. :cop:

ForemanCrossArm
09-20-2007, 07:23 AM
Think about it like this. 13 more pounds. 10 of which would be muscle, or so anyways. That's asking someone who is already fit to add another 10 pounds of muscle. that's hard.

tyson
09-20-2007, 01:44 PM
How tall are you? There are pro's and con's whatever weight you decide to fight at.
Figure out your strengths, and base your decision on that. If you're a banger who only focus on overpowering your opponents, you'll be better off staying at '65.
But if you're somewhat quick and skillfull, have a go at the heavier guys; they'll be slower and easier to outbox, if you're not a midget that is...

SpeedKillz
09-20-2007, 01:45 PM
Think about it like this. 13 more pounds. 10 of which would be muscle, or so anyways. That's asking someone who is already fit to add another 10 pounds of muscle. that's hard.

well if it were easy, it wouldnt be boxing...

if ur fit, adding muscle should be relatively easy i think. i mean not easy, but far from too hard...

but if u look at his body type (not to sound gay) he can add the muscle and carry the weight well IMO, cuz he trains like a beast...

British Pitbull
09-20-2007, 01:51 PM
Sweat suite and eat little till the weigh in, its the only way if you've got a fight on saturday, its the sad truth.

mizzippimud
09-20-2007, 01:57 PM
I fight on Saturday for a BELT...

My usual weight is 165 .. but I just got off the scale and I'm 172.2.

I don't really check my weight ever so this comes as a surprise to me.. since i've changed nothing in my diet at all...

trainer wants me to move to 178 for tournaments.. I wanna go back down to 165.


The fight on saturday is catch weight of 10 pounds.. so its 10 above or below. So 165 is not a must but thats been my weight to fight at forever since I got in good shape.


What do some of you guys think about me going to 178? or should i just go back to 165.. which I really didn't even realize i left to be serious. I feel so irresponsible being so close to the fight.

I say cut to 165 for this fight since you are comfortable there and consider moving up. You are probably putting some muscle weight on. Or if you are lucky might just be liquid. But being so soon I don't think you should go up til you see how you move and what type of stanima you have at 178

PunchDrunk
09-20-2007, 05:27 PM
How tall are you? There are pro's and con's whatever weight you decide to fight at.
Figure out your strengths, and base your decision on that. If you're a banger who only focus on overpowering your opponents, you'll be better off staying at '65.
But if you're somewhat quick and skillfull, have a go at the heavier guys; they'll be slower and easier to outbox, if you're not a midget that is...

The whole heavier guys are slower thing is generally NOT a factor, going from one weight to another. Obviously there's a difference between a supermiddleweight and a strawweight, but one division is not noticeable. Power and strength? Those you'll notice!

DA1CATAS
09-20-2007, 10:34 PM
Well After Training today I made 168.2

So I think I can make 165 or lower by saturday at 11AM because Its defiinitely going to be CATCH weight.


Thanx for all the help... it helped me during training.