need some advice please!

is it best to hit the heavy bag every day or every other day?..

i train 5-6 days a week(2 days of intense conditioning drills e.g 30 sec burpees/30 sec shadow boxingx 16 tabata punch out drills etc..a lot of these are rosstraining routines)..do morning 3 mile runs every day with intervals and lift iron 3 times a week push/pull splits..my boxing workout is usually 3 rounds of jump rope,5 rounds of heavy bag and then circuits of pullups,press ups,dips etc)..

need some advice please!

is it best to hit the heavy bag every day or every other day?..

i train 5-6 days a week(2 days of intense conditioning drills e.g 30 sec burpees/30 sec shadow boxingx 16 tabata punch out drills etc..a lot of these are rosstraining routines)..do morning 3 mile runs every day with intervals and lift iron 3 times a week push/pull splits..my boxing workout is usually 3 rounds of jump rope,5 rounds of heavy bag and then circuits of pullups,press ups,dips etc)..

I do 30+ mins of jump rope every training day before My workout.

Working the pads with coach.

The heavybag is done 6 rounds

along with 6 rounds body bag

and 6 rounds double end bag.

Coutdown from 10 with 4 routines.(EXP. 10 jumping jacks, 10 kick-outs, 10 mountain climbers, 10 push-ups...9 jumping jacks , 9 kick outs.......)

Speed bag for how ever many rounds non stop. those are light days because they are without sparring.


Beleive me hitting the bag everyday will only help you. If your not doing it someone else is.

i think, especially when one is first starting, that the HB should be pounded every freakin' day. builds your power from the ground up, builds confidence in your punches, lets you practice loads of different things on your own, etc..

Plus it'll build up toughness in your hands (if you aren't using a light-ass bag).

I punch the bag for at least 24 rounds a day as Ive said in another thread. Ive ****ed up my knuckle and wrist from hitting it that much,but they healed and my knuckle is ****ing huuuuuge now.I can also punch harder because my wrist is better then before.It can put alot of toughness in you.Plus if you're using a 100lb and up bag,your power WILL increase. Neglecting this to just every other day shows you dont wanna improve. I would drop the weight routine for the bag routine everyday.

I do 30+ mins of jump rope every training day before My workout.

Working the pads with coach.

The heavybag is done 6 rounds

along with 6 rounds body bag

and 6 rounds double end bag.

Coutdown from 10 with 4 routines.(EXP. 10 jumping jacks, 10 kick-outs, 10 mountain climbers, 10 push-ups...9 jumping jacks , 9 kick outs.......)

Speed bag for how ever many rounds non stop. those are light days because they are without sparring.





do you also do roadwork,weights and conditioning drills?

"I punch the bag for at least 24 rounds a day"

i find thta hard to believe.

"I punch the bag for at least 24 rounds a day"

i find thta hard to believe.

You wanna call my gym and ask my coach? I can give you the number? YES I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.:wave:

do you also do roadwork,weights and conditioning drills?


Yes I run often... I run so much I don't even count it... But I mix it up alot... some days I Run 3 miles and stop.. maybe 5 the next day then stop... and some days I just run with the music for a ridiculous amount of the day which is usually on saturdays and sunday afternoons.

If you find it hard to get up and go running... try getting up at 5 and shadow boxing for 3 minutes... then go back to sleep. You'll increase it yourself without even really forcing yourself.


Depends on how your feeling.

"You wanna call my gym and ask my coach? I can give you the number? YES I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT."

sure....

"You wanna call my gym and ask my coach? I can give you the number? YES I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT."

sure....

Im sending it PM right right now. I'll be asking him tomorrow if anyone has called. I dont have to lie on what I do,its foolish,just because you probably cant do it doesnt mean others cant.;)

Well man, you said you found it hard to beleive and the dudes providing you with information to squash your disbelief. Hes right for putting you on the spot just as you did to him when you basically called him a liar.

Edit: I spend quite a lot of time on the bag too but sometimes i dont know what to do and just end up smacking the living **** out of it till i have no energy left in my upper body. What kinda specifics do you do on the bag while you at it for so long Versa?

Well man, you said you found it hard to beleive and the dudes providing you with information to squash your disbelief. Hes right for putting you on the spot just as you did to him when you basically called him a liar.

Edit: I spend quite a lot of time on the bag too but sometimes i dont know what to do and just end up smacking the living **** out of it till i have no energy left in my upper body. What kinda specifics do you do on the bag while you at it for so long Versa?

I work on different combos,or punches that Ive cooked up in my head. I try to get the same rhythm on the bag,as in the smacking of it.If it doesnt do the same sound then Im obviously not hitting it right.I also imagine its a guy sometimes,visualation is a good tool.

On the 150lb bag I do furious combos like jab-right-left hook,straight right-hook to body-left hook to head,jab-left hook-over top over hand right,straight right to body-left hook-right hook to body,then I dip around the bag.Jab,left uppercut(all from orthodox),over the top over hand right. I do less speed and more power on the big bag.

On the small 70lb skinny bag.I do the same combos but with more speed,and flurry like instead,to build my speed up even more. When I hit the bag alittle hard and it moves alot. I move around bout time its swings back my way I can hit it again. An example on what I'd do is jab,slip and move out the way. I'll repeat that a few times,then I set it completely up with more shots. I try to snap my punches more on the smaller bag.The way I know Im doing it correctly is the bag doesnt move as much.Although its not,I still move around because you cant be a stationairy target because your opponent isnt.

I work alot of defense on the bags too.After I throw a combo I bob and weave,and step to the side to get out the way. I also step about 3 feet from the bag then I explode is with a jab and a combo to go along with it.Because most likely your opponent isnt going to be that close to you,so you gotta similate is if they're that far apart.I also skip around the bag when Im not hitting it,then I explode with a combo when Im ready.

All of this that I do in the bag makes the times go by extremely fast. Ever since I started boxing thats how Ive practiced doing a minimum of 15 rounds of the bags.Or 45minutes,1min rest. So its not as hard as it seem,its quite easy once you get used to it.

Thats some pretty intense stuff Versatile, ever heard of wing chun? It's a really useful martial art that can increase your speed.

Random fact: Bruce lee has a boxing record in China, its 10-0, he used wing-chun and western boxing techniques at the time.

cheers

Thats some pretty intense stuff Versatile, ever heard of wing chun? It's a really useful martial art that can increase your speed.

Random fact: Bruce lee has a boxing record in China, its 10-0, he used wing-chun and western boxing techniques at the time.

cheers

Anything that can improve my hand speed even more Im looking to do.

Thanks for the detailed reply Versatile, much appreciated.

just a though: couldnt doing to much heavy bag not help your muscle development, because they are ripped up when you work then they heal again but stronger, i heard that if you work the same muscles intensivley everyday they never get chance to heal.

Good point. Maybe doing the same thing everyday could also cause muscle adaptation also? So after a long period of training those muscles get used to it over time?

it is a toll on your body to use the hb everyday, no doubt. i think you should up and down the intensity a little bit. maybe spend as much time, but don't go 100% all the time. 80 some, 50 some, etc.. I know I'm SPENT the day after I've gone 25+ rounds of balls to the wall..

just a though: couldnt doing to much heavy bag not help your muscle development, because they are ripped up when you work then they heal again but stronger, i heard that if you work the same muscles intensivley everyday they never get chance to heal.

Well I havnt gotten sore from punching the bag in years,and I wear 16s and fight in peek-a-boo.

"I punch the bag for at least 24 rounds a day"

i find thta hard to believe.

Well my coach didnt say nothing,what happened?:wave:

24 rounds = 72 minutes = 1 hr 12 minutes

Versatile ever consider counseling

jk :-P

24 rounds = 72 minutes = 1 hr 12 minutes

Versatile ever consider counseling

jk :-P

I did like 12 rounds today,not including the cardio class from 5:30-6:30pm In which most of our workout is bag work.Go figure.haha 2 and a half hours at the gym today,and cardio aint light,especially when you been at the gym since 4pm when they opened.

Well I do the bag that much because my strive is alot higher then others.I might not post it and say it as much on here,but it is. Its either make it in boxing,or go back to college again,or work at a low paying job the rest of my life.

I think boxing,90% of the time in my head. Thats another reason why I have close to 24,000 post,not all in NSB,but I do peep in the threads of them alot,and of course post.

24 rounds is a lot.

But, how many of you have seen Versy hit? I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he works an hour or more per day on the bag.

I used to hit the HEAVYBAG a ridiculously long time too when I was a youngsta of 18-19. I'd be in the gym hitting the heavybag for like 30 mins to an hour. But not everyday. Maybe 4 days out of 7. Altho some weeks I'd go 4-5 days straight. I'd go in cycles, basically.

Now, is it good? Yes, definitely as Versatile said and for the reasons he mentioned: CONDITIONING, STRENGTH.

Howver, you MUST give your body a rest. Hitting the HB everyday is hard on your body. It can be like being in a fight every single day. The thing is to hit it hard and intense when you DO hit it. Really work it over. Then REST.

If Im your trainer, I wanna know what your goal is with boxing. You may NOT NEED to hit the HB everyday or even 1 day! Just like some guys shouldnt SPAR a lot. Everybody is different and it's up to you and your trainer to find out a INDIVIDUALIZED routine that works for YOU...and not one that maybe works for somebody else (I mean, it's good if someone's routine can work for you but experiment, dont just accept it blindly).

I used to hit the HEAVYBAG a ridiculously long time too when I was a youngsta of 18-19. I'd be in the gym hitting the heavybag for like 30 mins to an hour. But not everyday. Maybe 4 days out of 7. Altho some weeks I'd go 4-5 days straight. I'd go in cycles, basically.

Now, is it good? Yes, definitely as Versatile said and for the reasons he mentioned: CONDITIONING, STRENGTH.

Howver, you MUST give your body a rest. Hitting the HB everyday is hard on your body. It can be like being in a fight every single day. The thing is to hit it hard and intense when you DO hit it. Really work it over. Then REST.

If Im your trainer, I wanna know what your goal is with boxing. You may NOT NEED to hit the HB everyday or even 1 day! Just like some guys shouldnt SPAR a lot. Everybody is different and it's up to you and your trainer to find out a INDIVIDUALIZED routine that works for YOU...and not one that maybe works for somebody else (I mean, it's good if someone's routine can work for you but experiment, dont just accept it blindly).

very very good advice right there. i agree with it 100% cuz me personally, i dont need to hit the bag everyday, once or twice a week is plenty for me and i do fine with that. vers hits the bag everyday and he obviously does very fine with that. it depends on ur trainer and urself like boxing coach said. experiment and see where u make the most progress...

Just got to log back on again....

just saw the private message. I find it very hard to believe that 24 rounds can be done everyday and not be overtraining, but maybe it can be done... so i'll take your word for it.

but i was also in a prick mood and called him out... my bad. he did send me info to call so props for that.

Just got to log back on again....

just saw the private message. I find it very hard to believe that 24 rounds can be done everyday and not be overtraining, but maybe it can be done... so i'll take your word for it.

but i was also in a prick mood and called him out... my bad. he did send me info to call so props for that.

At least you admit it,I applaud that. Is it hard to do that many rounds? Well you've done it for about 4 years,it gets rather easy.Thats like the only thing I do at the gym also,not alot of other things.