I just checked a hunch I had and it is a fact that Gerald McClellan beat Roy in the amatuers. Now what do you think of his chances of beating Roy as a pro were, good I would say. Roy didn't suddenly become sensational over-night, he was a top amatuer too, proven by the fact that he went to the Olympics, so no one can say that Roy wasn't a skilled fighter back then, which is probably what Roy fans want to believe. I still believe that as pro.s McClellan would have KO'd Roy in devastating fashion.

who cares who beat who in the ams :confused: wlad won a gold medal ,his brother didnt(im pretty sure). who is the champ whos not. vitali is far more succesful than wlad. it goes to show am and pro are two different sports and you cant say that gerald would have beaten roy because the sports are very different.imo roy would have beaten mcclellan by UD

the same happend to Cotto, he lost twice to Pinto in amateurs and Cotto beat him by KO for the vacant WBO title.

who cares who beat who in the ams :confused: wlad won a gold medal ,his brother didnt(im pretty sure). who is the champ whos not. vitali is far more succesful than wlad. it goes to show am and pro are two different sports and you cant say that gerald would have beaten roy because the sports are very different.imo roy would have beaten mcclellan by UD

Vitali didn't go to the Olympics because he failed the drug test. Or at least that's what I think happened.

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I just checked a hunch I had and it is a fact that Gerald McClellan beat Roy in the amatuers. Now what do you think of his chances of beating Roy as a pro were, good I would say. Roy didn't suddenly become sensational over-night, he was a top amatuer too, proven by the fact that he went to the Olympics, so no one can say that Roy wasn't a skilled fighter back then, which is probably what Roy fans want to believe. I still believe that as pro.s McClellan would have KO'd Roy in devastating fashion.

I think your right dude! I love the G-man and a few years back in Reno I was at a boxing after dark card and I asked Manny Steward about Roy vs. Gerald (manny was visibly shaken to talk about McClellan). Obviously manny was biased because he loved Gerald almost as much as Tommy but he said very very convincingly that Gerald would have smoked Roy, he said it would have been easy. This was years before Roy was exposed by Tarver...Johnson. In my view Gerald would have at the very very least put Roy in the fight of his life! But I agree Roy would have suffered a very devistating ko that back then would have certainly crushed his legacy and at the same time cemented Gerald's.

No way.

McClelellan developed into a single-minded fighter.
He fell too in love with his power, & forgot to do the things to set up his monstrous shots.

No way Roy Jones loses to the McClellan who fought Benn.
All McClellan did was fire the big right cross followed by maybe a big left hook to the body.

Gerald would have been the biggest hitter Roy ever faced....but Roy, especially at 168....would have EASILY handled McClellan.

I dont think G-man developed into a single minded fighter, he was always that way. He made no secret of the fact that he was going to take any punch that you had and try and bomb you out of there, period. It wasn't like he was a complete fighter that just decided to start going for the home run, he always did this. MAybe Roy would have handled him, I know Roy would have been on his bike the entire fight, and if he let Gerald get him to the ropes which he let many fighters do way before Tarver roy would have been in big trouble.

G-man would have savagely knocked out roy, roy would not be able to keep the g-man off him, he would have stalked him until he landed the big one

At middleweight Roy could outbox anybody. If McClellan landed flush he could ko Roy tho. Depends on if Roy could avoid his shots for the whole fight.

Roy would have handled Gerald but would get a taste of leather a few times.Aaron Pryor beat Thomas Hearns as a amateur but I know for certain that would not had happened in the pros

Roy would have ran his asss off until Gerald started to tire and then Roy would try and land a few bombs of his own only to get caught with a good shot and then, LIGHTS OUT ROY!

I would say Roy Jones bu UD. Back then, Roy just showed me too much to take many other fighters over him.

i think ya'll are forgeting that jones hardly ever took a clean punch at 160 and 168. what makes you think mcclellan would land a big one? roy was untouchable at supermiddle and mostly through his lightheavy days. toney was the first guy to actualy land a few good shots on roy although griffin landed better ones and more of them. gerald would have been beaten by roy, no question.

I think I'm basing my opinion on both fighters level of competition , I have never and problly never will be all that impressed with alot of the guys Roy has beaten, imo he fought way too many guys that had full time jobs outside the ring, postman, a cop, a garbageman from New Zealand, While Gerald fought quite a few really good opponents, Roy seemed to like to fight the guys that weren't nearly as dangerous, of course excluding Tony and B. Hop neither of which had the ko power of the G-man.

I think I'm basing my opinion on both fighters level of competition , I have never and problly never will be all that impressed with alot of the guys Roy has beaten, imo he fought way too many guys that had full time jobs outside the ring, postman, a cop, a garbageman from New Zealand, While Gerald fought quite a few really good opponents, Roy seemed to like to fight the guys that weren't nearly as dangerous, of course excluding Tony and B. Hop neither of which had the ko power of the G-man.

g-man fought nobodies. have you ever heard of james toney, bernard hopkins, mike mccallum,vinny paz,virgill hill or john ruiz? roy fought and beat all these guys. who did gerald fight?

g-man fought nobodies. have you ever heard of james toney, bernard hopkins, mike mccallum,vinny paz,virgill hill or john ruiz? roy fought and beat all these guys. who did gerald fight?

Nobodies huh, well your right I haven't ever heard of Toney, B-Hop, that's why I included them in my post! Damn man read before you respond, anyways point was this- Roy fought McCallum when he was 40 years old = nowhere near as dangerous as he once was, same goes for Virgil Hill, both were really good top notch fighters at one time but imo their time was well past when Roy fought them. Now I sure as hell have a problem with you saying that Gerald fought nobodies and then saying how roy hasn't, Case in point Tony "the punching postman" Thorton wow what a worthy challenger. Next we have a cop from NYC named Richard Frazier who believed in his abilities so much that he sold ad space on the BOTTOM of his frickin shoes( in case you don't realize that is so we could see the ad when he got ko'ed. Then there was Glen "the garbageman" Kelley from Austrailia or somewhere like that, Who by the way followed his ko loss to RJJ up by being ko'ed in only 4 rds. by Paul Briggs, then winning three fights in a row over stiff competition, and I do mean STIFF the three opponents records combined for a whopping 33 wins 22 losses and three draws. Not exactly world class title challenging material is it. Now let's realize that Gerald's career was cut short and he had already fought John "the beast" Mugabi, who lasted 11 rds. with Hagler and 1 rd against Gerald. Julian Jackson (who has unquestionable ko power)twice only lasting 5 rds. and 1 rd., Gilbert Baptist who may not have had the prettiest record but was definately a worthy opponent, hell he went 12 w/ B. Hop, 12 w/ Boudouni, 12 w/ Pettway, 12 w/ Rosi. He lasted ONE against Gerald.
I can't really figure out what to think about Roy's fight w/ Ruiz, I mean true he moved up and fought the Heavyweight Champion , But it's Ruiz for gods sake and on top of that it was with Jay Nady as ref( who in case you didn't know is a ref who will not let a fighter hold and hit which is Ruiz's only means of offence) So it's really kinda sketchy at best. Like I have said before this long winded reply from this Kansas gasbag is only ny opinion so take it for what it is, I just think that if they had fought G-man would have won by ko.
On a side note does anyone else remember when Roy challenged Nigel Benn to fight after the McClellan fight and was gonna donate his purse to the G- man , except Benn wouldn't do it. I always thought that was really a great gesture from Roy.

Nobodies huh, well your right I haven't ever heard of Toney, B-Hop, that's why I included them in my post! Damn man read before you respond, anyways point was this- Roy fought McCallum when he was 40 years old = nowhere near as dangerous as he once was, same goes for Virgil Hill, both were really good top notch fighters at one time but imo their time was well past when Roy fought them. Now I sure as hell have a problem with you saying that Gerald fought nobodies and then saying how roy hasn't, Case in point Tony "the punching postman" Thorton wow what a worthy challenger. Next we have a cop from NYC named Richard Frazier who believed in his abilities so much that he sold ad space on the BOTTOM of his frickin shoes( in case you don't realize that is so we could see the ad when he got ko'ed. Then there was Glen "the garbageman" Kelley from Austrailia or somewhere like that, Who by the way followed his ko loss to RJJ up by being ko'ed in only 4 rds. by Paul Briggs, then winning three fights in a row over stiff competition, and I do mean STIFF the three opponents records combined for a whopping 33 wins 22 losses and three draws. Not exactly world class title challenging material is it. Now let's realize that Gerald's career was cut short and he had already fought John "the beast" Mugabi, who lasted 11 rds. with Hagler and 1 rd against Gerald. Julian Jackson (who has unquestionable ko power)twice only lasting 5 rds. and 1 rd., Gilbert Baptist who may not have had the prettiest record but was definately a worthy opponent, hell he went 12 w/ B. Hop, 12 w/ Boudouni, 12 w/ Pettway, 12 w/ Rosi. He lasted ONE against Gerald.
I can't really figure out what to think about Roy's fight w/ Ruiz, I mean true he moved up and fought the Heavyweight Champion , But it's Ruiz for gods sake and on top of that it was with Jay Nady as ref( who in case you didn't know is a ref who will not let a fighter hold and hit which is Ruiz's only means of offence) So it's really kinda sketchy at best. Like I have said before this long winded reply from this Kansas gasbag is only ny opinion so take it for what it is, I just think that if they had fought G-man would have won by ko.
On a side note does anyone else remember when Roy challenged Nigel Benn to fight after the McClellan fight and was gonna donate his purse to the G- man , except Benn wouldn't do it. I always thought that was really a great gesture from Roy.
WHEN WAS THAT AFTER THE VINNIE PAZ FIGHT?

Vinnie Paz was alway a bit overrated I mean come on the guy was a blown up washed out lightweight when he fought Roy! Come on dude damn. But yes it was Roy's next "defense" after Paz.

I honostly believe that Gerald McClellan would have KO'd Roy Jones if they fought after the Benn fight. He was getting better as a fighter and his punches were getting more accurate and devestating before he was injured. He wasn't as fast as Roy but he had an uncanny quickness on his power shots. If he caught Roy with even a glancing blow he would be in trouble. I really think if the ref was semi competent in the Benn fight we all would be talking about McClellan's legacy as one of the great fighters in history. Just my opinion.

Roy would have handled Gerald but would get a taste of leather a few times.Aaron Pryor beat Thomas Hearns as a amateur but I know for certain that would not had happened in the pros
Pryor beat Hearns in the amatuers? I didn't know that. But I do agree, Hearns would have seriously hurt Pryor in a pro-fight....maybe real bad.

I honostly believe that Gerald McClellan would have KO'd Roy Jones if they fought after the Benn fight. He was getting better as a fighter and his punches were getting more accurate and devestating before he was injured. He wasn't as fast as Roy but he had an uncanny quickness on his power shots. If he caught Roy with even a glancing blow he would be in trouble. I really think if the ref was semi competent in the Benn fight we all would be talking about McClellan's legacy as one of the great fighters in history. Just my opinion.


i agree, we would talk about the great gerald Mcclellan instead or roy jones, roy would just have been a footnote in the g-mans career

I honostly believe that Gerald McClellan would have KO'd Roy Jones if they fought after the Benn fight. He was getting better as a fighter and his punches were getting more accurate and devestating before he was injured. He wasn't as fast as Roy but he had an uncanny quickness on his power shots. If he caught Roy with even a glancing blow he would be in trouble. I really think if the ref was semi competent in the Benn fight we all would be talking about McClellan's legacy as one of the great fighters in history. Just my opinion.


Say what ?

If anything, McClellan was getting LESS accurate, & becoming a WORSE fighter.
He became too reliant on his power (& it wasn't like he had a wide variety of shots), forgetting to set them up.
He had too many quick KO's in the mid 90's.....which is one major reason he had so much trouble with Benn after round one.

I can't believe so many are saying the Roy Jones of the mid-90's would lose to a guy who lost to Nigel Benn.

I was a huge McClellan fan, because he was very exciting & intimidating.
But I also saw some serious limitations....certainly the kind that would see him defeated by a Jones who had no limitations.

The key if these two would have squared off would have been RESPECT. How much would Gerald have respected Roy Jones. Everyone Roy fought up until Glenn Johnson showed him far too much respect...even Antonio Tarver did...

When you watch Roy's fight with Hopkins it was depressing to see a bully like Hopkins content with getting into a boxing match from the outside with a guy who was twice as fast.

If G-man went in with a reckless mindset like he did against the Hawk then I give him a damn good chance...if he choose to fight the Hopkins way then he would have no chance...

I gotta believe that G-man would have shown Roy no repsect in the ring and gone after him...would he have won, I think with this style he would have a really good chance.

As for the Benn fight as a marker...throw that fight out the window...no one on this site no's when things started going wrong inside of Gerald's brain...it's been a long time since I read this but I read that the clot started forming as early as the second round. Now of course who knows but to use the Benn fight as a comparison for a future fight is probably off, if anything it shows that nothing could deter a guy like Gerald...again he was literally dieing in that fight yet still continued on...which leads me back up top, to beat G-man you need a blood clot to do it, the power of Julian Jackson couldn't do it and I seriously doubt that Roy Jones power would have done it either.

Fight from the outside and show Roy too much repsect and this fight is as easy as all of the other Roy fights, bully the **** out of him and we may have seen Johnson v. Jones a decade sooner.

The key if these two would have squared off would have been RESPECT. How much would Gerald have respected Roy Jones. Everyone Roy fought up until Glenn Johnson showed him far too much respect...even Antonio Tarver did...

When you watch Roy's fight with Hopkins it was depressing to see a bully like Hopkins content with getting into a boxing match from the outside with a guy who was twice as fast.

If G-man went in with a reckless mindset like he did against the Hawk then I give him a damn good chance...if he choose to fight the Hopkins way then he would have no chance...

I gotta believe that G-man would have shown Roy no repsect in the ring and gone after him...would he have won, I think with this style he would have a really good chance.

As for the Benn fight as a marker...throw that fight out the window...no one on this site no's when things started going wrong inside of Gerald's brain...it's been a long time since I read this but I read that the clot started forming as early as the second round. Now of course who knows but to use the Benn fight as a comparison for a future fight is probably off, if anything it shows that nothing could deter a guy like Gerald...again he was literally dieing in that fight yet still continued on...which leads me back up top, to beat G-man you need a blood clot to do it, the power of Julian Jackson couldn't do it and I seriously doubt that Roy Jones power would have done it either.

Fight from the outside and show Roy too much repsect and this fight is as easy as all of the other Roy fights, bully the **** out of him and we may have seen Johnson v. Jones a decade sooner.


It's amazing how quickly everyone forgets how nobody really competed with Roy Jones back then.

If McClellan played the "bully", as you believe he should of, his incredibly orthodox attack would have gotten him smacked silly by Roy.

I can't see someone like McClellan getting anything done with Roy Jones.

It's amazing how quickly everyone forgets how nobody really competed with Roy Jones back then.

If McClellan played the "bully", as you believe he should of, his incredibly orthodox attack would have gotten him smacked silly by Roy.

I can't see someone like McClellan getting anything done with Roy Jones.

I certainly have not forgotten how dominate Roy Jones was...for a decade actually longer than that I looked at him as unbeatable but I always wanted to see a guy throw caution to the wind and go at him. Hopkins and Toney and Ruiz completely pissed me off with their respective efforts...Tarver pissed me off in the first fight and for a round and a half of the second fight...Roy is the most dominating fighter of my era-probably yours too-I just wish someone would have gone balls to the wall against him just once...Win or loose with Gerald McClellan we would have most likely seen balls to the wall.

roy prob would have beat him then. all mclellan had was a punchers chance, but thats enough too

you all saw what roy did to james toney right? would you have thought that would have happened to toney? We've see G-Mac at his best, we've seen Roy at his best, who would you out you last dime on? Mine goes on roy UD.