recognition? I always wondered this, is that the case?

yes..................

Amir Khan has more recognition in the UK than any other boxer still fighting and hes never fought in the U.S.

Amir Khan has more recognition in the UK than any other boxer still fighting and hes never fought in the U.S.

DLH....... Not alot of ppl in America know who Khan is.

DLH....... Not alot of ppl in America know who Khan is.

khan got recognized easily though and he could do that in america, he just has something about him ..

khan got recognized easily though and he could do that in america, he just has something about him ..

I doubt that,highly doubt that. Not alot of ppl know who Holyfield is in America for god sake.:lol1:

DLH....... Not alot of ppl in America know who Khan is.

Never said recognition in America

true, but america is a big place and certain places in america it doesn't matter who knows you lol

true, but america is a big place and certain places in america it doesn't matter who knows you lol

Everyone knows Tyson though,even the nerds,and preps.

Never said recognition in America

oops!!:lol1:

America has the biggest media industry with a reach that's world wide. Fight in Vegas and Atlantic City and you'll soon be recognised by HBO and Showtime. Once on those you'll be seen all over the globe. HBO's reach is HUGE: People watch HBO fight cards in Japan and throughout Asia; they're seen in Europe and Africa and Latin America. European media simply doesn't have that kind of reach. So yesm if you want true world wide recognition you need to come to America and get on HBO or Showtime. It's as simple as that.

Poet

if you want fame and wealth of the highest degree you should make sure you fight in the US, and more widely than that, wherever you're from. Both Tyson and Ali fought around the globe and are the biggest names ever in boxing.

But as for getting recognition for your ability, then it doesn't matter where you fight. if you beat the best opposition you'll get recognition in the history books, you don't need to come to the mecca of boxing.

So yesm if you want true world wide recognition you need to come to America and get on HBO or Showtime. It's as simple as that.

or you can let hbo / showtime come to you like calzaghe.

No but it's harder otherwise. So long as top fighters are in America, and HBO and the Vegas casinos are providing the financial backing, you have to come here.

I think the real world champs should fight in America, England, and Germany.

Wlad is a good example, varying between Germany and America. I hope he goes to London to blow out one of your domestic HWs at some point (if one can actually string a few decent wins together), b/c it could be a popular event there.


Hopkins would fight in Wales and that would be lovely, but there is only one real world champ in Wales, so it's not like that's a model for others to follow.

I'd like to see the top American middleweight one day go to Germany to fight Abraham

Yes............

or you can let hbo / showtime come to you like calzaghe.

And hardly anyone outside of hardcore boxing fans knows who Calazghe is. If he had fought in America the guy would be a superstar by now. He'd be a buttload richer and he'd be headlining PPV cards. Instead he's kanguishing in obscurity because he won't fight outside the UK.

Poet

And hardly anyone outside of hardcore boxing fans knows who Calazghe is. If he had fought in America the guy would be a superstar by now. He'd be a buttload richer and he'd be headlining PPV cards. Instead he's kanguishing in obscurity because he won't fight outside the UK.

Poet

SMW is a tough division though, the Euros have dominated it for a while. Who should he have come to fight? Everyone came to him.

And I don't think he was ever real high on Roy's list to be honest

or you can let hbo / showtime come to you like calzaghe.

SMW is a tough division though, the Euros have dominated it for a while. Who should he have come to fight? Everyone came to him.

And I don't think he was ever real high on Roy's list to be honest

He should have gone to Vegas and Atlantic City and let the Euros come to him there. Let's face it: That's where the money and exposure is. With the exception of Heavyweights fans don't really care what weight division someone fights in as long as they're watching a top notch fighter in good fights.

Poet

He should have gone to Vegas and Atlantic City and let the Euros come to him there. Let's face it: That's where the money and exposure is. With the exception of Heavyweights fans don't really care what weight division someone fights in as long as they're watching a top notch fighter in good fights.

Poet

But if you fight the top gys in your division, I don't feel it matters where the fight is. He would have made more money? Why do you or I care about that?

The dumbest thing people on here ever worry about is how much money a guy is making. Why gove a **** if the fight is on tv where you can see it?

But if you fight the top gys in your division, I don't feel it matters where the fight is. He would have made more money? Why do you or I care about that?

The dumbest thing people on here ever worry about is how much money a guy is making. Why gove a **** if the fight is on tv where you can see it?

I like to see good fighters rewarded financially and with recognition. I'll put it plainly: I'm a Calzaghe fan and I think he should have been a star years ago.
I also believe in promoting the sport and I think the best fighters should get world wide recognition and especially recognition in the US, a country that is critical for the success of boxing. Boxing has been declining in popularity for years which I find alarming and I'd like to see that trend reversed.

Poet

Is it really in decline? Every week you get a fight card on espn, twice a month on hbo, twice on showtime, fights every night on Classic, and occasional and decent cards on Versus. There's so much boxing on TV it's hard to watch it all. But there are so many media today that it allows people to have more specialized interests, so of course not everybody is going to watch all this

Is it really in decline? Every week you get a fight card on espn, twice a month on hbo, twice on showtime, fights every night on Classic, and occasional and decent cards on Versus. There's so much boxing on TV it's hard to watch it all. But there are so many media today that it allows people to have more specialized interests, so of course not everybody is going to watch all this

Boxing used to be the most popular sport in America, back in the 1920s. It was surpassed by baseball and then football and the basketball but still held a strong popularity. But if you look at sports polls it's popularity has been declining for the last several decades to the point where it ranks somewhere below Australian dick wrestling in popularity. Young fans aren't being reached, it's rare to see good fighters on free TV if you can even SEE a fight on free TV. Fight clubs are closing all over the country to the point where many big cities now have none. So yes I'm alarmed. I believe boxing is the greatest of all sports: It's a pure sport featuring man on man competition in a fight for supremacy. To see it decline down to a "niche" sport distresses me greatly.

Poet

And hardly anyone outside of hardcore boxing fans knows who Calazghe is. If he had fought in America the guy would be a superstar by now. He'd be a buttload richer and he'd be headlining PPV cards. Instead he's kanguishing in obscurity because he won't fight outside the UK.

Poet


but as far as reaching a worldwide audience it wouldn't make a difference. i agree it would make a difference as far as the american audience is concerned but not the rest of the world. the european audience would be unaffected as would the marginal asian audience (from my experience of south asian tv they haven't been interested in boxing since tyson)

but as far as reaching a worldwide audience it wouldn't make a difference. i agree it would make a difference as far as the american audience is concerned but not the rest of the world. the european audience would be unaffected as would the marginal asian audience (from my experience of south asian tv they haven't been interested in boxing since tyson)

The Thais and the Phillipinos are boxing crazy. Japan has a smaller but still hard core fan base. US TV reaches all of them, US TV reaches into Eastern Europe and Russia. My whole point is that the US is the only country that has a media that stretches globally.

Poet

Doesnt Matter where fights are held. It makes no difference.

Some fighters still fight for pride.

Truly Great fighters should fight Globally.

The Thais and the Phillipinos are boxing crazy. Japan has a smaller but still hard core fan base. US TV reaches all of them, US TV reaches into Eastern Europe and Russia. My whole point is that the US is the only country that has a media that stretches globally.

Poet


yes, and US TV has a big part in Calzaghe-Kessler which is not even taking part in the states. i see what you mean, but i really don't think the fight has to physically take place in america for it to get worldwide exposure. its the 21st century damnit!

also i don't know what its like in other non-american countries, but coverage of big american shows doesn't always happen. its not like a show is automatically screened because its being carried by hbo. although it has been getting better now that setanta are competing with sky to get the big fights.

recognition? I always wondered this, is that the case?


Yes, Because of Vegas and the widespread PPVs. More eyes, see it more recognition.

Do HBO/showtime reach as far as the BBC does? I didn't think so - if boxing was brought back to the Beeb you'd get coverage across europe, India, the middle east, pretty much everywhere. But audley harrison ruined the chances of that every happening.

Oh **** that was a bad beating. Poor Audley.

recognition? I always wondered this, is that the case?

Even a big European fight is only available a few other euro countries than their own.

Big American fights are available in every state and often shown in many euro countries, and elsewhere.

If you want world wide recognition, you have to go to the states...

Even a big European fight is only available a few other euro countries than their own.

Big American fights are available in every state and often shown in many euro countries, and elsewhere.

If you want world wide recognition, you have to go to the states...

You talk as if a state = a european country.

People should remember that 98% of the world's population are NOT Fat Yanks. Geographical mass does not equal population.

While I agree with the theme to an extent - exposure via US media, etc. - I do have to laugh at people on here who seem to have the mindset (not necessarily anyone in this thread) that "a fight hasn't taken place in the states = the fight doesn't count". Remember, The Ring's FOTY last year took place in France.

Do HBO/showtime reach as far as the BBC does? I didn't think so - if boxing was brought back to the Beeb you'd get coverage across europe, India, the middle east, pretty much everywhere. But audley harrison ruined the chances of that every happening.


yeah bbc is shown in almost ever country in the world, i would think it is shown in more countrys than HBO or showtime.

if you want recognition in america, go to america. If you want european recognition, fight europe.

i dont agree that fighters should have to go to the US, sure it was the mecca of boxing (about 30 years ago) but it ain't anymore

noone in australia really knows boxing..... theres alot but you compare it too the population then its seems zilch

In spite of the dollar's decline vs. the Euro, fighters--with a very few exceptions, e.g., Chris John), Sirodenko and that Thai whose name I can neither pronounce nor remember easily-- still crave for U.S. (not "america" because North America includes Canada and Mexico) exposure because US TV and promoters pay more.

It's not only in boxing that athletes seek US contracts. Chinese basketball players don't waste time lacing up their shoes to hop on a plane for the chance to play in the NBA, and so has Africans, Latinos and Europeans.

No pro Track and Field athlete would pass up the chance to appear on US turf while Filipino and Taiwanese billiard players ply their trade in US tourneys. Japanese names are often seen in baseball rosters as well. All for the money and, yes, fame (BBC may have the wider global reach, but its promotions do not have HBO's and Showtime's glitz).

Off the top of my head, the few times that migration may have gone the other way is in soccer (I say,"for the moment," while casting an eye on the importation of the Brit star recently) which is not at all that huge in the US but THE BIG THING in most parts of the world.

Tennisters have to go to three continents: Europe (Wimbledon and French Open), Asia (Australian Open) and of course the US for both legacy and money.

Despite what the LAY boxing fans say, America is STILL the Mecca of Boxing. Yes, Some Countries offer bigger venues to host Boxing events, but that does not factor in the obvious. The MONETARY gain is evident and the EXPOSURE (on a Globalscale) will eclipse that of any rival country.

:hail: Plain and simple, America rules Boxing

Despite what the LAY boxing fans say, America is STILL the Mecca of Boxing. Yes, Some Countries offer bigger venues to host Boxing events, but that does not factor in the obvious. The MONETARY gain is evident and the EXPOSURE (on a Globalscale) will eclipse that of any rival country.

:hail: Plain and simple, America rules Boxing

This is an embarrassment. We're just one country. Take a vacation and go see the world. We're only about 4% of the world's population

i aint even know who khan was till i saw his name on this forum
America is the big stage to show who you really are:boxing:

i aint even know who khan was till i saw his name on this forum
America is the big stage to show who you really are:boxing:

Funny **** cos believe it or not people over here AINT REALLY KNOW WHO MAYWEATHER IS EITHER.

Funny **** cos believe it or not people over here AINT REALLY KNOW WHO MAYWEATHER IS EITHER.

Thats true here too.