After watching him in the first Leonard fight last week, I must say that I don't like him. I've had nothing against him in the past, but now I do. After the fight was over and Leonard reached out to shake his hand Duran just brushed it aside. What a classless bastard! Maybe that's how it was in Panama or something, but common friggin' decency is universal. And then he started making lude jestures at Leonard and Wilfredo Benitez, who was ringside, acting like he destroyed Leonard or something. I thought the fight could have went either way. And even before the fight, Duran made personal attacks at Leonard and his family. Talking bad about the opponent is one thing, but to stoop so low as to go after the family with personal attacks is just inexcusable. He called his wife a hoar, on top of other things. And then carrying on after the fight like he was the baddest man in the world was just comical. Saying that he won the fight because he was "more of a man", then Leonard. Sure he was more of a man. Making personal attacks about Ray's wife, acting up after the fight like a little biotch 12 year old who got his lollipop taken away from him, and refusing to shake his hand after the fight is real mature manliness huh idiot? At least Leonard conducted himself with class that night, and he was more of a man than Duran will ever be. During the fight I think Leonard matched him blow-for blow, and IMO the yell of the crowd may have been the deciding factor in the scoring of the fight. Everytime Duran did something good they yelled with excitement. Even when he missed they cheered. When Leonard did something good there was no reaction whatsoever. Maybe that's why many people here claim that Duran annihilated Ray or something to that nature. Nobody annihilated anybody. Karma is a dog, and Duran got just what he deserved in the rematch. This time instead of going to war, Leonard did what he was supposed to do, box him. Leonard's plan that night was to stick, move, taunt, and embarass! Duran was out of his element. Sure he could handle a guy that came right at him, but put some movement on him and he's lost. I was so glad Ray humiliated him like that, and was dishing out the same treatment he was getting from Duran before. You know the old saying, "He can dish it out, but he certainly can't take it!". Ray humiliatingly beat him up and made him quit like the ***** he is! To me that victory was more decisive than the decision win from Monreal. No doubt Ray took a portion of Roberto Duran's legend that night.:fing02: I'm now adding Duran-Leonard II, and Hearns-Duran to my "favorite fights" collection. Well, I'm done.:boxing:

The rematch doesn't count for **** and you know it. Duran outmanned and outboxed Leonard. Duran is the better fighter and the better man. Sorry

After watching him in the first Leonard fight last week, I must say that I don't like him. I've had nothing against him in the past, but now I do. After the fight was over and Leonard reached out to shake his hand Duran just brushed it aside. What a classless bastard! Maybe that's how it was in Panama or something, but common friggin' decency is universal. And then he started making lude jestures at Leonard and Wilfredo Benitez, who was ringside, acting like he destroyed Leonard or something. I thought the fight could have went either way. And even before the fight, Duran made personal attacks at Leonard and his family. Talking bad about the opponent is one thing, but to stoop so low as to go after the family with personal attacks is just inexcusable. He called his wife a "maricón", which is the spanish translation of the word *****. And then carrying on after the fight like he was the baddest man in the world was just comical. Saying that he won the fight because he was "more of a man", then Leonard. Sure he was more of a man. Making personal attacks about Ray's wife, acting up after the fight like a little biotch 12 year old who got his lollipop taken away from him, and refusing to shake his hand after the fight is real mature manliness huh idiot? At least Leonard conducted himself with class that night, and he was more of a man than Duran will ever be. During the fight I think Leonard matched him blow-for blow, and IMO the yell of the crowd may have been the deciding factor in the scoring of the fight. Everytime Duran did something good they yelled with excitement. Even when he missed they cheered. When Leonard did something good there was no reaction whatsoever. Maybe that's why many people here claim that Duran annihilated Ray or something to that nature. Nobody annihilated anybody. Karma is a dog, and Duran got just what he deserved in the rematch. This time instead of going to war, Leonard did what he was supposed to do, box him. Leonard's plan that night was to stick, move, taunt, and embarass! Duran was out of his element. Sure he could handle a guy that came right at him, but put some movement on him and he's lost. I was so glad Ray humiliated him like that, and was dishing out the same treatment he was getting from Duran before. You know the old saying, "He can dish it out, but he certainly can't take it!". Ray humiliatingly beat him up and made him quit like the ***** he is! To me that victory was more decisive than the decision win from Monreal. No doubt Ray took a portion of Roberto Duran's legend that night.:fing02: I'm now adding Duran-Leonard II, and Hearns-Duran to my "favorite fights" collection. Well, I'm done.:boxing:
You're a retard. Maricon does not mean ***** and you know little of what you are talking about.

The rematch doesn't count for **** and you know it. Duran outmanned and outboxed Leonard. Duran is the better fighter and the better man. Sorry
Not to mention they rushed Duran into the second fight not fully recovered and having problems losing weight, his manager forcing him to inject hormones into his stomach so he would lose weight faster but giving him cramps during the fight.

The rematch doesn't count for **** and you know it. Duran outmanned and outboxed Leonard. Duran is the better fighter and the better man. Sorry

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just can't come to grips with it can you. Sugar Ray Leonard is Duran's daddy, ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Leonard toyed with him like a child and made him quit in the middle of the fight 'cause he couldn't take it anymore. Leonard is head-to-head the better fighter and the better man. He bested him in the ring 2 out of 3, including a demoralizing stoppage! His only loss was a neck and neck decision droppage. Not to mention Leonard beat up and stopped Tommy Hearns, who beat Duran like a child who stole something from him in less than 2 rounds. WHO'S YOUR DADDY???LOL!!!!

Sugar Ray Leonard es mi papa.

:banana:

Not to mention they rushed Duran into the second fight not fully recovered and having problems losing weight, his manager forcing him to inject hormones into his stomach so he would lose weight faster but giving him cramps during the fight.

Excuses, excuses.:nonono:

It wasn't neck and neck dummy.

Does anyone rank Leonard as high as Duran? Well, besides you.

Duran was simply the better fighter. I know exactly why that's so hard for you to accept too, you're such an obvious little identity-conflicted clown, we have three or four just like you on these forums

Excuses, excuses.:nonono:
No excuses, Leonard admits it himself.. you just a hater.

Duran looks like a serial killer.:blackeye:

No excuses, Leonard admits it himself.. you just a hater.

Exactly and he knows this, he says SRL is just being polite.

For the record I like Leonard, sometimes someone has your number and Duran had his

For the record I like Leonard, sometimes someone has your number and Duran had his

and so did hearns in the 2nd fight.

After watching him in the first Leonard fight last week, I must say that I don't like him. I've had nothing against him in the past, but now I do. After the fight was over and Leonard reached out to shake his hand Duran just brushed it aside. What a classless bastard! Maybe that's how it was in Panama or something, but common friggin' decency is universal. And then he started making lude jestures at Leonard and Wilfredo Benitez, who was ringside, acting like he destroyed Leonard or something. I thought the fight could have went either way. And even before the fight, Duran made personal attacks at Leonard and his family. Talking bad about the opponent is one thing, but to stoop so low as to go after the family with personal attacks is just inexcusable. He called his wife a hoar, on top of other things. And then carrying on after the fight like he was the baddest man in the world was just comical. Saying that he won the fight because he was "more of a man", then Leonard. Sure he was more of a man. Making personal attacks about Ray's wife, acting up after the fight like a little biotch 12 year old who got his lollipop taken away from him, and refusing to shake his hand after the fight is real mature manliness huh idiot? At least Leonard conducted himself with class that night, and he was more of a man than Duran will ever be. During the fight I think Leonard matched him blow-for blow, and IMO the yell of the crowd may have been the deciding factor in the scoring of the fight. Everytime Duran did something good they yelled with excitement. Even when he missed they cheered. When Leonard did something good there was no reaction whatsoever. Maybe that's why many people here claim that Duran annihilated Ray or something to that nature. Nobody annihilated anybody. Karma is a dog, and Duran got just what he deserved in the rematch. This time instead of going to war, Leonard did what he was supposed to do, box him. Leonard's plan that night was to stick, move, taunt, and embarass! Duran was out of his element. Sure he could handle a guy that came right at him, but put some movement on him and he's lost. I was so glad Ray humiliated him like that, and was dishing out the same treatment he was getting from Duran before. You know the old saying, "He can dish it out, but he certainly can't take it!". Ray humiliatingly beat him up and made him quit like the ***** he is! To me that victory was more decisive than the decision win from Monreal. No doubt Ray took a portion of Roberto Duran's legend that night.:fing02: I'm now adding Duran-Leonard II, and Hearns-Duran to my "favorite fights" collection. Well, I'm done.:boxing:

Duran was very different away from the ring. Even Ray Leonard said that away from the ring he was the nicest guy you'd ever meet. In the ring was a different story: He was an animal, and he worked himself into a fury everytime he stepped throught those ropes.

Poet

Karma is a dog, and Duran got just what he deserved in the rematch.

U should be careful what u say.
Ali shouted his moth of plenty and insulted quite a few fighters, and look what happened to him. Karma is a dog?

As for Duran celebrating after his win over Leonard, it wasnt as over the top and embarrassing as Ali jumping around like a fool after Liston took a dive in their rematch. :fing02:

:op:

Duran dominated Leonard on a scoring basis in their first fight. You want to give Leonard credit for holding his own (with a lightweight, lol) go ahead, but that doesn't mean the fight was close. Duran was getting the better of it in most of the rounds.

You're a retard. Maricon does not mean ***** and you know little of what you are talking about."Maricón" is a derogatory term aimed at gays, much like the "F" word, if you will... "Puta" is the most common usage for "*****."

U should be careful what u say.
Ali shouted his moth of plenty and insulted quite a few fighters, and look what happened to him. Karma is a dog?

As for Duran celebrating after his win over Leonard, it wasnt as over the top and embarrassing as Ali jumping around like a fool after Liston took a dive in their rematch. :fing02:

:op:
Yup, I was just about to say that. Ali wasnt greatest sportsmen sometimes after fights..

As for Leonard, I like him.. That era was great IMO.. Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard between those four right there was some awesome fights and Im not gonna hate on any of them.

and so did hearns in the 2nd fight.

Hearns outboxed Leonard in the first fight, won about 10 rounds before getting tapped.


Leonard also admits that his approach to the Hagler fight was to throw bogus flurries in the last thirty seconds of rounds and fool the crowd/judges into his support.

After watching him in the first Leonard fight last week, I must say that I don't like him. I've had nothing against him in the past, but now I do. After the fight was over and Leonard reached out to shake his hand Duran just brushed it aside. What a classless bastard! Maybe that's how it was in Panama or something, but common friggin' decency is universal. And then he started making lude jestures at Leonard and Wilfredo Benitez, who was ringside, acting like he destroyed Leonard or something. I thought the fight could have went either way. And even before the fight, Duran made personal attacks at Leonard and his family. Talking bad about the opponent is one thing, but to stoop so low as to go after the family with personal attacks is just inexcusable. He called his wife a hoar, on top of other things. And then carrying on after the fight like he was the baddest man in the world was just comical. Saying that he won the fight because he was "more of a man", then Leonard. Sure he was more of a man. Making personal attacks about Ray's wife, acting up after the fight like a little biotch 12 year old who got his lollipop taken away from him, and refusing to shake his hand after the fight is real mature manliness huh idiot? At least Leonard conducted himself with class that night, and he was more of a man than Duran will ever be. During the fight I think Leonard matched him blow-for blow, and IMO the yell of the crowd may have been the deciding factor in the scoring of the fight. Everytime Duran did something good they yelled with excitement. Even when he missed they cheered. When Leonard did something good there was no reaction whatsoever. Maybe that's why many people here claim that Duran annihilated Ray or something to that nature. Nobody annihilated anybody. Karma is a dog, and Duran got just what he deserved in the rematch. This time instead of going to war, Leonard did what he was supposed to do, box him. Leonard's plan that night was to stick, move, taunt, and embarass! Duran was out of his element. Sure he could handle a guy that came right at him, but put some movement on him and he's lost. I was so glad Ray humiliated him like that, and was dishing out the same treatment he was getting from Duran before. You know the old saying, "He can dish it out, but he certainly can't take it!". Ray humiliatingly beat him up and made him quit like the ***** he is! To me that victory was more decisive than the decision win from Monreal. No doubt Ray took a portion of Roberto Duran's legend that night.:fing02: I'm now adding Duran-Leonard II, and Hearns-Duran to my "favorite fights" collection. Well, I'm done.:boxing:

The bold parts coming from an Ali fan?

I see a pathetic case of sour grapes.

Say what you will about Durán, but there's something to be said about the fact that he won the hearts and minds of fans everywhere. No matter against whom, or where he fought, the majority always rooted for him and chanted his name, Doo-ran! Doo-ran! Doo-ran!

He was always "The People's Champion" and despite losing the trilogy to him, he will forever be more popular than Sugar Ray Leonard. It is no accident that Duran is consistently ranked an average of 14 places ahead of Leonard on the ATG list.

Hearns outboxed Leonard in the first fight, won about 10 rounds before getting tapped.


Leonard also admits that his approach to the Hagler fight was to throw bogus flurries in the last thirty seconds of rounds and fool the crowd/judges into his support.

When did Leonard say he threw bogus flurries to fool the crowd and judges?



Ive always had Leonard winning that fight, he threw fast combinations and was hardly going to load up with single shots to try and KO Hagler, he always threw flurries.
I dont see how making Hagler miss and scoring with punches is fooling anyone.

It just sounds like bull**** to me. That anyone who thought Leonard won has been fooled! :rolleyes:

Unsuccesful comeback there Butterfly. Might as well hang 'em up for good.

It wasn't neck and neck dummy.

Does anyone rank Leonard as high as Duran? Well, besides you.

Duran was simply the better fighter. I know exactly why that's so hard for you to accept too, you're such an obvious little identity-conflicted clown, we have three or four just like you on these forums

I rank SRL and Duran the same. People forget that SRL fought Duran toe to toe! Thats was Duran's gift and in the 2nd fight SRL out-boxed him. I agree that Duran wasn't in the best condition but we all know SRL would have beaten if he out-boxed him in the first place. Duran is a offical 140 pounder but was so strong he could fight MW!! SRL is an offical WW and so is Thomas Hearns. Hagler was just plain huge LOL. If I gotta name the best out of the Fab 4 its

1. SRL because he defeated all in the fab 4
2. Roberto Duran because he was a small guy bullying the big people
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Thomas Hearns

butterfly, you made the exact thread in esb :lol1:

U should be careful what u say.
Ali shouted his moth of plenty and insulted quite a few fighters, and look what happened to him. Karma is a dog?

As for Duran celebrating after his win over Leonard, it wasnt as over the top and embarrassing as Ali jumping around like a fool after Liston took a dive in their rematch. :fing02:

:op:

So after a fight, jumping up and down is worse than cursing at the opponent and pointing to your crotch at the crowd on national tevevision?:crazy:

Duran was very different away from the ring. Even Ray Leonard said that away from the ring he was the nicest guy you'd ever meet. In the ring was a different story: He was an animal, and he worked himself into a fury everytime he stepped throught those ropes.

Poet

Yeah, but when the fight's over you don't have to carry on like Duran did. There's no need to. The fight is over.

"Maricón" is a derogatory term aimed at gays, much like the "F" word, if you will... "Puta" is the most common usage for "*****."

My mistake. I meant to say "puta", not maricon. I knew it was one of those words, I just mixed them up. Sorry.

The bold parts coming from an Ali fan?

I see a pathetic case of sour grapes.

When did Ali call opponents' wives *****es and things of that nature?

When did Ali call opponents' wives *****es and things of that nature?

When did Duran call his opponents "uncle toms", "monkeys" or the likes...

How is that cool and what Duran did is not? explain please

Exactly and he knows this, he says SRL is just being polite.

For the record I like Leonard, sometimes someone has your number and Duran had his

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:fing02:

When did Duran call his opponents "uncle toms", "monkeys" or the likes...

How is that cool and what Duran did is not? explain please

What Duran did was much worse. If he just called Ray names, then ok, but he crossed over to people that had nothing to do with the fight. That was wrong.

What Duran did was much worse. If he just called Ray names, then ok, but he crossed over to people that had nothing to do with the fight. That was wrong.


1) That's a line you personally draw


2) you are saying that Ali calling Frazier uncle tom (with Frazier helping him out and all, btw), or his treatment of Patterson was not crossing over to other people that had nothing to do with the fight. That's simply bull****. You donte need to give names and addresses of someone to talk about them

I think you are making yourself sound ridiculous, but if you want to keep going, that's fine with me.

What a classless bastard! Maybe that's how it was in Panama or something, but common friggin' decency is universal. And then he started making lude jestures at Leonard and Wilfredo Benitez, who was ringside, acting like he destroyed Leonard or something.........

.... And then carrying on after the fight like he was the baddest man in the world was just comical.

Like many have said. Ali insulted a number of his opponents. Classless? Many would say so.

U wana talk about comical, Ali first telling Liston to get up because he knew that punch wasnt a KO punch, then running and jumping around the ring "acting like he destroyed Liston or somthing".:pat:

So after a fight, jumping up and down is worse than cursing at the opponent and pointing to your crotch at the crowd on national tevevision?:crazy:

I didnt say it was worse. See above. "peeleft:

Ive never knew u were such a sensitive guy Butterfly. Duran was just full of machismo after beating pretty boy media darling Olympic gold medalist nice guy Leonard.

Like many have said. Ali insulted a number of his opponents. Classless? Many would say so.

U wana talk about comical, Ali first telling Liston to get up because he knew that punch wasnt a KO punch, then running and jumping around the ring "acting like he destroyed Liston or somthing".:pat:



I didnt say it was worse. See above. "peeleft:

Ive never knew u were such a sensitive guy Butterfly. Duran was just full of machismo after beating pretty boy media darling Olympic gold medalist nice guy Leonard.

Liston was prone on the ground. That's closer to getting destroyed then finishing a fight on your feet and giving a good performance like Leonard did.

1) That's a line you personally draw


2) you are saying that Ali calling Frazier uncle tom (with Frazier helping him out and all, btw), or his treatment of Patterson was not crossing over to other people that had nothing to do with the fight. That's simply bull****. You donte need to give names and addresses of someone to talk about them

I think you are making yourself sound ridiculous, but if you want to keep going, that's fine with me.

I'm not saying what Ali did wasn't wrong, but it certainly doesn't cross the line like what Duran was doing. Patterson brought the bad treatment on himself. You know that, and I know that.

I'm not saying what Ali did wasn't wrong, but it certainly doesn't cross the line like what Duran was doing. Patterson brought the bad treatment on himself. You know that, and I know that.

Again, the line YOU draw.

I'm not saying what Ali did wasn't wrong, but it certainly doesn't cross the line like what Duran was doing. Patterson brought the bad treatment on himself. You know that, and I know that.

Woa. Got to stop you there. Patterson brought the treatment on himself? For calling him Cassius Clay? Hell, Ali's own parents called him that to the day they died. They NEVER acknowledged his name change. Nor did they have any use for the Nation Of Islam. There is one fool on here that keeps talking about how Earnie Terrell almost kicked Ali's ass. No. Ali CARRIED Terrell. Why? Because he wanted to punish him, which he did brutally, and with every punch that landed he taunted Terrell with "What's my name? What's my name?". That was as uncalled for as what Patterson got.

Poet

Gotta agree with that, calling Clay by his name is not crossing any 'lines' except imaginary ones drawn by extremists.

Duran will never be as big a name as Leonard and it's bull****. Leonard rose to fame because he was an American Olympian, a pretty boy and a name. People just don't know fellas. Don't try to change their minds either let them live their lives thinking that Leonard was better than Roberto Duran. As long as you know. Who cares?

Liston was prone on the ground. That's closer to getting destroyed then finishing a fight on your feet and giving a good performance like Leonard did.

Duran beat the champion Leonard fairly over 15 rounds.
Liston went down with a nothing punch, Ali himself knew it, but then proceeded to jump around.

Duran actually won.

Ali only won because of the ref not being able to control a hyper Ali.

Duran beat the champion Leonard fairly over 15 rounds.
Liston went down with a nothing punch, Ali himself knew it, but then proceeded to jump around.

Duran actually won.

Ali only won because of the ref not being able to control a hyper Ali.

Still Ali never mad ethe lude gestures Duran did.

Woa. Got to stop you there. Patterson brought the treatment on himself? For calling him Cassius Clay? Hell, Ali's own parents called him that to the day they died. They NEVER acknowledged his name change. Nor did they have any use for the Nation Of Islam. There is one fool on here that keeps talking about how Earnie Terrell almost kicked Ali's ass. No. Ali CARRIED Terrell. Why? Because he wanted to punish him, which he did brutally, and with every punch that landed he taunted Terrell with "What's my name? What's my name?". That was as uncalled for as what Patterson got.

Poet

I'm sure both Patterson and Terrel had a method to their madness. Even if his parents called him Clay, what can he do about it? He can't beat up his own parents. Patterson did it because he genuinely didn't like Ali and the NOI. Terrel did it probably to get a rise out of Muhammad so Ali could make mistakes in the fight. Both IMO were wrong. Who are we to tell someone what their name is? If someone wants to call themselves a certain thing, then that is his or her business. It's disrespectful to undermine that and call them what ever you want. Maybe as far as sportsmanship goes, what Ali did was wrong, but I can't really blame him because I can only imagine the rage and the disrespect he must have felt, just like I can't really blame Joe Frazier for what he thought about Ali in recent years.:fing02:

when it comes to ali talk, nobody can beat butterfly :fing02:

when it comes to ali talk, nobody can beat butterfly :fing02:

:fing02:...

Ali shouldnt of said several of the harsh things he said to Frazier, Patterson, ect. Duran shouldnt of acted the way he did toward Leonard. Both was childish, and nothing close to mature. Both statements are wrong towards fellow man, so why argue which is worse?

Ali shouldnt of said several of the harsh things he said to Frazier, Patterson, ect. Duran shouldnt of acted the way he did toward Leonard. Both was childish, and nothing close to mature. Both statements are wrong towards fellow man, so why argue which is worse?

So true.

I think it was a case of hypocrisy.

Just remember duran was a unbeatable lightwieght he could of stayed that wieght and never lost but he moved up to a few wieght classes highest being middlewieght and when he was 14 he punched a horse and knocked it out lol.

Woa. Got to stop you there. Patterson brought the treatment on himself? For calling him Cassius Clay? Hell, Ali's own parents called him that to the day they died. "Cassius Clay is disgracing himself and the Negro race. No decent person can look up to a champion whose cred is "hate whites." I have nothing but contempt for the Black Muslims and that for which they stand. The image of a Black Muslim as the world heavyweight champion disgraces the sport and the nation. Cassius Clay must be beaten and the Black Muslims' scourge removed from boxing."

-Floyd Patterson
October 14,1965
Sports Illustrated


He said more than just calling him Clay. I don't shed a tear for Patterson.

"Cassius Clay is disgracing himself and the Negro race. No decent person can look up to a champion whose cred is "hate whites." I have nothing but contempt for the Black Muslims and that for which they stand. The image of a Black Muslim as the world heavyweight champion disgraces the sport and the nation. Cassius Clay must be beaten and the Black Muslims' scourge removed from boxing."

-Floyd Patterson
October 14,1965
Sports Illustrated


He said more than just calling him Clay. I don't shed a tear for Patterson.

I certainly don't have a problem with Patterson's statement: The Nation Of Islam preaches hate and always have. That's why Malcolm X eventually left them.....and was murdered by them for it. I have a problem with people hating others for their race, whether it's the Klan hating blacks, Nazi's hating Jews, or......Nation Of Islam hating whites. I have zero tolerance for it.

Poet

I certainly don't have a problem with Patterson's statement: The Nation Of Islam preaches hate and always have. That's why Malcolm X eventually left them.....and was murdered by them for it. I have a problem with people hating others for their race, whether it's the Klan hating blacks, Nazi's hating Jews, or......Nation Of Islam hating whites. I have zero tolerance for it.

Poet

How bout the Nation of Domination?

How bout the Nation of Domination?

Who the hell is that? If they're a hate group I have no tolerance for them either.

Poet

How bout the Nation of Domination?

lmao...............

Who the hell is that? If they're a hate group I have no tolerance for them either.

Poet

LOL is was a WWF group back in the 90's. They where sort of pro black.

I certainly don't have a problem with Patterson's statement: The Nation Of Islam preaches hate and always have. That's why Malcolm X eventually left them.....and was murdered by them for it. I have a problem with people hating others for their race, whether it's the Klan hating blacks, Nazi's hating Jews, or......Nation Of Islam hating whites. I have zero tolerance for it.

Poet

:fing02: .....
:fing02: .....
:fing02: .....
:fing02: .....

"Cassius Clay is disgracing himself and the Negro race. No decent person can look up to a champion whose cred is "hate whites." I have nothing but contempt for the Black Muslims and that for which they stand. The image of a Black Muslim as the world heavyweight champion disgraces the sport and the nation. Cassius Clay must be beaten and the Black Muslims' scourge removed from boxing."

-Floyd Patterson
October 14,1965
Sports Illustrated


He said more than just calling him Clay. I don't shed a tear for Patterson.

Exactly. Patterson was asking for a beatdown, and that's what he got.:fing02:

LOL is was a WWF group back in the 90's. They where sort of pro black.

They modeled themselves on the nation of islam. Wrestlings ridiculous black militant group.:p

The rematch doesn't count for **** and you know it. Duran outmanned and outboxed Leonard. Duran is the better fighter and the better man. Sorry
I second that. Duran's the GOAT for lightweights.

All you have to look at is the P4P rankings alltime. DURAN is ranked 4th and SRL 8 or 9 I believe. DURAN's career at LW is better than SRL's.