who do you think is the best horro villain in any form of media, whether books, films, manga etc etc tell me about them :D
I have been watching Nightmare on elm street recently (my brother bought 1 to 6 on DVD) they all suck except maybe the first one.
I thought what a missed opportunity it was, the idea was great but the execution was kinda lame, terrible actors/actresses, lousy effects (though it was the eighties :confused: ) etc etc. I think jason vorhees was a missed opportunity too.
probably the funniest monster i ever saw was in the return of the living dead, i saw a Dwarf zombie, the funniest thing EVER, a dwarf zombie, rather than moaning "braaaaaains" it would moan "annnkles".

Er...u havent awnserd youre own question! Just talked about **** films!
Micheal Myers, (halloween, not Waynes world) was a badass.
Jack Nicholson in the Shining. Maybe the best horror film ever.
Darth Vadar was cool , but became a *****.
Leatherface from Texas chainsaw massacer, disturbing.

Satan from "The Exorcist"........ seemed like he might put a little crimp in your style.

if noone finds the ankle joke funny i guve up.
I did not intend to answer it just explain why i thought the thread up dude :D

You guve up?
Fine. Say Incle!

if noone finds the ankle joke funny i guve up.
I did not intend to answer it just explain why i thought the thread up dude :D
ah ha!!! now i understand.

who do you think is the best horro villain in any form of media, whether books, films, manga etc etc tell me about them :D
I have been watching Nightmare on elm street recently (my brother bought 1 to 6 on DVD) they all suck except maybe the first one.
I thought what a missed opportunity it was, the idea was great but the execution was kinda lame, terrible actors/actresses, lousy effects (though it was the eighties :confused: ) etc etc. I think jason vorhees was a missed opportunity too.
probably the funniest monster i ever saw was in the return of the living dead, i saw a Dwarf zombie, the funniest thing EVER, a dwarf zombie, rather than moaning "braaaaaains" it would moan "annnkles".

I thought it was funny Garrett! Anway, Pinhead (from Hellraisers) is my favorite badass :D

Hannibal Lecter, one evil dude.
Pee Wee herman.

Hannibal Lecter, one evil dude.
Pee Wee herman.

pee wee herman?
:eek: one frightning guy you got me there lexi

The Tall Man...Phantasm

phantasm sucked though, it was called the worst film of that year

The Tall Man...Phantasm

I forgot about him...very creepy dude!! :eek:

phantasm sucked though, it was called the worst film of that year

Back in it's filming time I was young enough that it creeped me out! Those silver ball thing's with the ****es or whatever were very cool. But watching them today is like watching "The Thing" with Kurt Russell; I wish I hadnt watched it again recently and could still tell myslef that it was a good movie! :(

phantasm sucked though, it was called the worst film of that year


you must be kidding..it was on the top ten Horror movies of all time list. If a regular film critic reveiwed it, I'm sure they would hate it. A horror fan who doesn't like it is crazy.

well i will be, you are right i did not think for myself i may watch it again if i can sometime take a more objective view instead :D

Back in it's filming time I was young enough that it creeped me out! Those silver ball thing's with the ****es or whatever were very cool. But watching them today is like watching "The Thing" with Kurt Russell; I wish I hadnt watched it again recently and could still tell myslef that it was a good movie! :(
:eek: :eek: The Thing is STILL one of my favourites of all time!
Its a commentry on the AIDS crisis of the late 80's, special effects are still great, the endings left open.
Oh, its still good.

what came top, the exorcist?

:eek: :eek: The Thing is STILL one of my favourites of all time!
Its a commentry on the AIDS crisis of the late 80's, special effects are still great, the endings left open.
Oh, its still good.

Well, I just watched it again the other night and had to kinda laugh at some of those special effects; but I kept thinking that if they redid it and did it right it would be very cool! ;)

I wouldnt say Regan in The Exorcist is the best "baddie". It might be voted the scariest film, or scariest character.
I love it.

yeah but in 10 years you would think it looked bad too, the matrix is looking dated already :confused:

Well, I just watched it again the other night and had to kinda laugh at some of those special effects; but I kept thinking that if they redid it and did it right it would be very cool! ;)
If they remade it they would mess it up, like they did Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Wat do u think of TCM?

If they remade it they would mess it up, like they did Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Wat do u think of TCM?

I thought it sucked as much as the others! Other than re-doing the same ole thing over and over, there was way too much heavy breathing and hysterics to be taken serious. I understand that in real life when that craziness went down the people involved were hysterical, but for movie goers it got on my nerves.....I wanted somebody to slap that chick and tell her to shut the hell up!

yeah but in 10 years you would think it looked bad too, the matrix is looking dated already :confused:
10 Years? The Excorsist is already over 20 years old.
Its not about how a film looks, like the old Frankenstein films from the 1930's, they have a sense of atmosphere that no movie today could capture.
Or the original Nosferatu. Its not scarey, but creepy.

I thought it sucked as much as the others! Other than re-doing the same ole thing over and over, there was way too much heavy breathing and hysterics to be taken serious. I understand that in real life when that craziness went down the people involved were hysterical, but for movie goers it got on my nerves.....I wanted somebody to slap that chick and tell her to shut the hell up!
Are you talking about the original?
Or the modern remake?

The 'big three' have all diminished since the original. Freddy turned into a comic character, Michael Myers couldn't finish off Busta Rhymes in the last Halloween sequel, and Jason was never in a good movie. Unlike Halloween and A Nightmare on Elm Street, which were both classic horror films, Friday the 13th, though somewhat groundbreaking, sucked as a film, though it was the best of the series, and Jason's mommy did all the dirt in that one!

Some people have called A Clockwork Orange a horror film, including imdb.com at one point. In that case, Malcolm McDowell's Alexander De Large has to be on the list. Anthony Hopkins's Hannibal Lecter in the original Silence of the Lambs, too. Same with Anthony Perkins as Norman Bates in the Psycho series. Or the river dudes in Deliverance. Sidney Blackmer and Ruth Gordon were freaky in Rosemary's Baby; the end of that movie I'm sure was supposed to be scary in 1968, but by the time I saw the film, it seemed a tad silly when Clara from the Andy Griffith Show utters, "Satan is his father!"

I like a good horror movie; unfortunately, few "slasher" movies are actually good films. A lot of it comes with the fact that writers/producers don't respect fans of slasher films as having any type of a brain, and like bad action films, they think that ridiculous one-liners and cut-ups enhance a film. Chucky from Child Play series, the Leprechaun, Jack Frost are examples. There hasn't been a good slasher film in years, partly because they are all too formulaic and this point and no one really wants to do something different (even Scream was inferior to Wes Craven's New Nightmare, which used similar themes two years prior), and partly because they all involve teen models who are too pretty and too poor of actors to make the story believable. Freddy vs. Jason was less a horror movie than a WB model shoot. Back in the 1970s when the color wasn't so bright and the film was kind of grainy, that was a good backdrop for a creepy film. I Know What You did Last Summer and the like are too crisp and clean to allow you to be scared.

I wouldnt say Regan in The Exorcist is the best "baddie". It might be voted the scariest film, or scariest character.
I love it.

That was funny, not scary at all!

My mate bet me to walk though a these "haunted woods" after watching it to prove i wasnt scared, if anything watching that film made it easier because i was laughing my ass off!! I won the bet!

10 Years? The Excorsist is already over 20 years old.
Its not about how a film looks, like the old Frankenstein films from the 1930's, they have a sense of atmosphere that no movie today could capture.
Or the original Nosferatu. Its not scarey, but creepy.

i know, i am referring to the special effects

That was funny, not scary at all!

My mate bet me to walk though a these "haunted woods" after watching it to prove i wasnt scared, if anything watching that film made it easier because i was laughing my ass off!! I won the bet!
Yea, iv heard alot of people saying they found it funny. I dont see how. But hey.
Kinda like The Blair Witch, u either love it or hate it.

10 Years? The Excorsist is already over 20 years old.
Its not about how a film looks, like the old Frankenstein films from the 1930's, they have a sense of atmosphere that no movie today could capture.
Or the original Nosferatu. Its not scarey, but creepy.

Have you seen Freaks (1932). There's one I still don't want to watch late at night with the lights off.

Are you talking about the original?
Or the modern remake?

The newest one, where there was always a girl screaming or crying non stop. It just got on my nerves!

Yea, iv heard alot of people saying they found it funny. I dont see how. But hey.
Kinda like The Blair Witch, u either love it or hate it.

Think most people thought the scene were the girl was stabbing herself in the cooty was funny.

Yea, iv heard alot of people saying they found it funny. I dont see how. But hey.
Kinda like The Blair Witch, u either love it or hate it.

The first Blair Witch was ok, but the 2nd one is still one of my favorite movies to sit and watch when nothing else is on. :)

Leatherface is a badass, that **** would have been creepy as hell, but he was slow and had a chainsaw, how the hell can you not get away from a chainsaw.

if he misses, you could land a couple of sweet jabs on the ****er.

The newest one, where there was always a girl screaming or crying non stop. It just got on my nerves!

Yo leatherface gimme the chainsaw i will do it myself
:mad:

why would you jab someone trying to kill you, left hooks and power punches man :cool:

Have you seen Freaks (1932). There's one I still don't want to watch late at night with the lights off.
No, but i really really have to.
I agree with wat u say about modern hollywood "horror" movies. They'll remake anything for a quick buck.
I disagree about Friday the 13th, i like it, although its no TCM or Halloween, its more of a pure slasher pic. Part 3, where Jason gets his mask is enjoyable, after that, they are ****.

I watched the Shining recently, and fell in love with it. Its different to any other horror film.

Think most people thought the scene were the girl was stabbing herself in the cooty was funny.
oh, i get it...you're an idiot.

The newest one, where there was always a girl screaming or crying non stop. It just got on my nerves!

Oh, i havent seen it.
The original has alot of non stop screaming as well. But the film is good, the characters are disturbing.

Leatherface is a badass, that **** would have been creepy as hell, but he was slow and had a chainsaw, how the hell can you not get away from a chainsaw.

if he misses, you could land a couple of sweet jabs on the ****er.

Right...touch Leatherface to the body and jab him upstairs while he's steady cutting off your left leg. :rolleyes: :D


The best horror movie ever was The Shining IMO. It was a different brand of horror. It more psychological and creepy than other things. I also like the Puppet Master movies with those little ****ing dolls that go ape**** on everybody. I hate little ****ing dolls. :mad:

Hey tracy I saw The Forgotten this past Sunday and
I'll admit that I was a little creeped out until they started killing the whole yank people up in the sky thing. It got a little old. It was still pretty good though. That dudes face in the end of it will haunt my dreams for the rest of my life.

Yo leatherface gimme the chainsaw i will do it myself
:mad:

Good idea Garrett!! :D

Right...touch Leatherface to the body and jab him upstairs while he's steady cutting off your left leg. :rolleyes: :D


The best horror movie ever was The Shining IMO. It was a different brand of horror. It more psychological and creepy than other things. I also like the Puppet Master movies with those little ****ing dolls that go ape**** on everybody. I hate little ****ing dolls. :mad:

Hey tracy I saw The Forgotten this past Sunday and
I'll admit that I was a little creeped out until they started killing the whole yank people up in the sky thing. It got a little old. It was still pretty good though. That dudes face in the end of it will haunt my dreams for the rest of my life.

that was the part that I was referring to when I said "startling"...when youre not expecting it it will shock! Pretty cool movie though!! ;)

why would you jab someone trying to kill you, left hooks and power punches man :cool:

His face was ****ed up anyway, any punch would do some damage.

But to tell you the truth if i was there in real life, I'd probably run around and act like a scared little ***** aswell.

I heard rumors that never happened, i know it says based on a true story, but i read somewhere that it's bull****, they did it only to sell movies

His face was ****ed up anyway, any punch would do some damage.

But to tell you the truth if i was there in real life, I'd probably run around and act like a scared little ***** aswell.

I heard rumors that never happened, i know it says based on a true story, but i read somewhere that it's bull****, they did it only to sell movies
Its not a true story, but partly based on the killer Ed Gein, who would kill women, skin them and make belts and furniture out of their skin. Apparently he had a box of vaginas!
He made a skin suit that he would wear. It all started wen is mother died, he keep her corpse. Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, Texas chainsaw, are all based on him.

Its not a true story, but partly based on the killer Ed Gein, who would kill women, skin them and make belts and furniture out of their skin. Apparently he had a box of vaginas!
He made a skin suit that he would wear. It all started wen is mother died, he keep her corpse. Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, Texas chainsaw, are all based on him.

I saw some kind of docudrama on him not too long ago...very weird fella! :eek:

When I was a kid I used to be terrified of Freddy Kreuger, but now I like him. He's never killed a filipino in any of his movies. He only kills popular white kids, you know, the type that used to perform hate crimes on me as a youngster. I would love to be in the second Nightmare on Elm Street, when he tells the girl he won't kill her if she keeps bringing him victims. I'd be like "Yeah, I got mad mu****as I want dead in my town. Just let me go into my girls dreams to she if shes ****ing around on me and we got a deal. Pleasure doing business Mr. Kreuger". But then I'd **** him over and kill him and take his postition as the dream demon and kill girls who won't **** me.

Apparently he had a box of vaginas!
.

Now that is ****ed Up, Jeez, How sick would you have to be, I don't know why, (Maybe it's the inner Serial Killer in me) but i giggled when i read that

I would love to be in the second Nightmare on Elm Street, when he tells the girl he won't kill her if she keeps bringing him victims. .

Thats number 4. I know my Nightmare on Elm Streets!

Thats number 4. I know my Nightmare on Elm Streets!
Then thats the one I want to be in.

Then thats the one I want to be in.
lol Cool :)

Yeah, Nightmare on Elm Street 2 was the one with a MALE lead in some very homoerotic scenes.

I remember him in the leather bar, his gym teacher making him run laps, Freddy coming out when he would mess around with the girl, him spending the night with his male friend after leaving an amorous encounter with his girlfriend, him getting caught singing and dancing to a cheesy pop song when he's unpacking his stuff into his room...

Nightmare on Elm Street 2 was the gayest horror movie I've ever seen...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Valentine was my ****. When the jilted nerd comes back to kill all the girls who lied and said he tried to rape them. This should be a new law: If you go to jail on false rape accusations, if you are proven innocent, you should be allowed to rape them.

Valentine was my ****. When the jilted nerd comes back to kill all the girls who lied and said he tried to rape them. This should be a new law: If you go to jail on false rape accusations, if you are proven innocent, you should be allowed to rape them.

Valentine was pretty forgettable. I did like the hot tub murder scene, though, with Denise Richards I think.

Valentine was pretty forgettable. I did like the hot tub murder scene, though, with Denise Richards I think.
The premise was genius in my opinion. They need more revenge of the nerd kind of horror films.

Agreed; the premise was okay. But the execution was below average, and the result was a movie that should have been direct to video.

Agreed; the premise was okay. But the execution was below average, and the result was a movie that should have been direct to video.
I admit, the movie itself was pretty weak. It only had one A-List star (The guy from Buffy), and a B-star who does all her movies straight to video (Denise Richards). If there was one leading lady in the movie, say a Jennifer Garner or something, the movie would have been greatly enhanced. But the movie was pretty predictable. There was only 2 guys, and one of them was killed early!

I think my fav is michael myers.

The first Blair Witch was ok, but the 2nd one is still one of my favorite movies to sit and watch when nothing else is on. :)
I also thought blair witch 2 got was pretty good. It got roasted unfairly by critics.

Legion: He was the demon in the Exorcist and the Exorcist 3. The Exorcist 3 IMO was the best one by far. The story is kind of complex. Legion has possesed a man they call the gemini killer. Its based on crimes by the zodiac killer. They did some original creepy things in this flick. If you like horror films give it a try.

"Legion" is a synonym for "many" as in "We are many".
It's not a dude named Legion, doofus. The idea is that Satan takes many forms and is other-worldly...not a red guy with horns and a cheesy outfit.

"Legion" is a synonym for "many" as in "We are many".
It's not a dude named Legion, doofus. The idea is that Satan takes many forms and is other-worldly...not a red guy with horns and a cheesy outfit.
The way I took it. A demon, not satan, was possesing Regan. The demon never revealed its name. It called itself Legion. (we are many). So thats all we mortals had to go by. Hence calling him legion.

Read the book. HE goes by many names, HE manefests himself in many ways. HE is evil incarnate.
He is NOT a meanie with a gang of henchmen.

Also.........
Exorcist III sucked raw sewage hard!
The only thing remotely scary about it was the realization that an hour and a half of your life was totally wasted and gone forever. :p

I also thought blair witch 2 got was pretty good. It got roasted unfairly by critics.

Love that damn movie! Talk about a real head trip, the witch had a blast with those kids :D




From what I remember from the Bible, Legion was a demon, but a demon of 10,000, as in he was 10,000 demons all in one (hence the "we are many" line) . In the Bible Jesus cast the same demon (Legion) out of a man and into a herd of swine. The herd of swine then went mad and drove? into the sea. That's all I know. :o But the demons name and number are mentioned in the Bible. That is probably where they got the name from for the movie; IF you dont believe that the story was based on what really happened a long time ago but to a boy instead of a girl. Supposedly it happened, but of course Hollywood added alot of crap to spice it up and market it.

Friday the 13th, though somewhat groundbreaking, sucked as a film, though it was the best of the series, and Jason's mommy did all the dirt in that one!
friday the thirteenth admitedly was based on the formulaic principles of slasher movies but it had something different.
It was about a mothers love gone to far, a child rejected by it's peers and a mother who loved him to an extreme that took her to murder.
It was believed that Jason did not drown but pretended to, to escape an abusive father who molested him or beat him , never explained in the films but if you visit various websites they will tell you that. It is elaborated further (in the second) that Jason saw his mother being killed and set out for revenge.
The second and the first cannot really be seperated they both go so well together. A mothers love and then a sons love for her mother which proves jasons downfall at the end.
Any thing after that is just cashing in.

I like a good horror movie; unfortunately, few "slasher" movies are actually good films. A lot of it comes with the fact that writers/producers don't respect fans of slasher films as having any type of a brain, and like bad action films, they think that ridiculous one-liners and cut-ups enhance a film.
I doubt it is because they think that of us, if you look at the success of films such as scream etc you will see that it works, why? it is due to the majority of the audience being just that stupid, not stupid as such but undiscerning and seeking escapism without thought. I am sure directors would love to make films that the true fans seek but due to pressures from studios and money at stake, they cannot.

Okkkaaaayyyy......I dont watch horror movies cause I'm stupid or want to escape; I watch them cause they're fun. I dont get into action, romance or westerns. Other than comedy there is nothing else that I'd spend money on at the theatre :)

i said majority tracylee :rolleyes: i was not including you or anyone on the board. i was generalising

i said majority tracylee :rolleyes: i was not including you or anyone on the board. i was generalising

when the hell did everyone become so touchy?? I didnt say or think you were pointing a finger at me Garrett, and still dont. I was just stating my case, only cause you were right about alot of people going to the movies, etc...just to escape. A valid point that I hadnt even thought about.

when the hell did everyone become so touchy?? I didnt say or think you were pointing a finger at me Garrett, and still dont. I was just stating my case, only cause you were right about alot of people going to the movies, etc...just to escape. A valid point that I hadnt even thought about.
noone is getting touchy tracy i misunderstood sorry tracy :o

noone is getting touchy tracy i misunderstood sorry tracy :o

Okay, still bud's? :)

:D still buds, never said we were not :confused:

:D still buds, never said we were not :confused:

I know ......ah man, this is funny as hell. I was messing with ya Garrett! :p Let's start over, ok? Hi, I'm Tracy and I'm a real *****; who the hell are you? :D

i am stephen and i am from mars and only consitite 15% water due to the arid conditions on mars :D

i am stephen and i am from mars and only consitite 15% water due to the arid conditions on mars :D


What is the other 85% of you full of?? :D

The premise was genius in my opinion. They need more revenge of the nerd kind of horror films.

I'm sure I don't need to tell you about The Toxic Avenger (1985)

I know that the feelings about this movie are mixed, but I liked the bad guy from Jeepers Creepers.

I know that the feelings about this movie are mixed, but I liked the bad guy from Jeepers Creepers.

the very begining was the best part, it was pretty scary in the theatre cause it was so damn loud. the rest of the movie was ok, sorda. :D

I know that the feelings about this movie are mixed, but I liked the bad guy from Jeepers Creepers.

I forgot about that one! I liked it if only cause it was different :)

I actually thought the sequel was better.

I actually thought the sequel was better.

I liked the first one more cause with there only being 2 "dinners" in danger and all it was more personal or something like that (kinda hard to explain!!!). I couldnt stand half the kids on the bus in the 2nd movie so them getting eaten didnt really break me up too much :D

man i am watching nightmare on elm street i have never actually watched it all the way through but man is freddy scarier than his later incarnations, he is a great psychological villan rather than the comedic farce he became later. popping out from behind trees and stuff, man!!! :eek:

man i am watching nightmare on elm street i have never actually watched it all the way through but man is freddy scarier than his later incarnations, he is a great psychological villan rather than the comedic farce he became later. popping out from behind trees and stuff, man!!! :eek:
hey garrett, dont go to sleep!!!

1,2 freddy's coming for you 3,4 better lock the door 5,6 something something something (I dont know the rest of it)

1,2 freddy's coming for you
3,4 better lock your door
5,6 get a crucifix
7,8 gonna stay up late
9,10 never sleep again
:D

yeah that garrett,lol is it part one?

yes it is, by far the most superior of the series, way scarier and feddy looks like a killer who actually wants to kill and not make the audience laugh :confused:

like Jackie Chan,lol

you must be bored louis, it is slow on here tonight :confused:

very bore, I am glad I am at work for once

why am I negative?

because some bozo took it upon themselves to give out bad reps for fun :mad: did it to me too, lucky i banked the rest of what i have. No matter what rick does some idiot abuses it

because some bozo took it upon themselves to give out bad reps for fun :mad: did it to me too, lucky i banked the rest of what i have. No matter what rick does some idiot abuses it
bozo!? idiot!?
i gave u 900 to make up for the 500 i subtracted with bad karma.
Be nice or i will give u bad karma at every oppertunity. :)

Jason Voorhees rocks. ;)
I love horror films, werewolves, vampires are the best for an average horror flick but you can't beat the unseen stuff or general creepiness of the real old films.

bozo!? idiot!?
i gave u 900 to make up for the 500 i subtracted with bad karma.
Be nice or i will give u bad karma at every oppertunity. :)

i had over 1000 in my pocket and when you gave me bad karma you put me in the negative
:mad:

Must be "Det Okända"

yeah I am in the damn negative too, why?

yeah I am in the damn negative too, why?

I'll make a donation to you and Garrett to help with the negative and build some rep points ....keep an eye out for it and bank it ok :)

thanks again Tracy lee, how can we ever repay you,lol

i had over 1000 in my pocket and when you gave me bad karma you put me in the negative
:mad:
Giving bad karma does not just put u in the negative, it only subtracts a healthy amount of points depending on how big my blue karma bar is.

SO, i didnt minus over 2000 points!
For whinging, i shall give u bad karma, and call u a baby.

"u baby" :)

thanks again Tracy lee, how can we ever repay you,lol

Youre welcome...no problem at all :)

REDRAW...behave yourself!!!!! :D :D

:o sorry Miss

Giving bad karma does not just put u in the negative, it only subtracts a healthy amount of points depending on how big my blue karma bar is.

SO, i didnt minus over 2000 points!
For whinging, i shall give u bad karma, and call u a baby.

"u baby" :)

I hate you redraw
:p

..rrr im just posting.. rrr

..rrr im just posting.. rrr

That's not posting....that's spamming :D

hey sister. id spam you if i could get a hold of you.. :D

hey sister. id spam you if i could get a hold of you.. :D

Okkkkkaaaayyyy....didnt see that one coming!! :eek:

we could be the baddest couple you and I..

beuty and the beast.

Elisabeth Furster Nietsche and some chick from Deliverance cast.

what do you say?

I hate you redraw
:p
WOW! I just noticed that "RedRaw" backwards spells "warder" .....which is Swahilli for "Asswipe that resembles Richard Simmons muchly and smokes the pipe of flesh".

Everyone........give RedRaw bad karma until he repents...and stops screaming "ATTITUDE, Ladies!!"

Garrett and all the Freddy haters, you are wrong. Freddy Krueger IS horror. The character is responsible for so much. The actor brings the most credibility to any horror role ever. I'll put Freddy against anybody. DeNiro as Frankenstein, Perkins as Norman Bates, anybody.

I won't deny that most of the other actors in the Nightmare movies weren't very good, but Freddy himself was excellent. Oh well, guess the actor has to be dead before anybody will admit how good he is in the role.

I typically don't like Wes Craven's works. Nightmare is the one thing he did correctly. And I personally like any of the Nightmare movies over any of the Friday the 13th, Halloween, Hellraiser, and Texas Chainsaw movies.

And Nightmare 2 is not the worst of the Nightmare movies, as most people say. Nightmare 5 is significantly worse.

The Freddy movies make the most sense as far as horror elements go in typical horror movies. Since Freddy is in a dream world, it makes sense that he can appear around any corner. All these other movies that do that, it makes no sense for this to occur. Especially with Jason or Michael Myers, guys that move about as fast as...a John Ruiz match.

Gary Oldman's version of Dracula in Bram Stoker's Dracula. He was excellent.

Evil Dead 1 2 and army of darkness

WOW! I just noticed that "RedRaw" backwards spells "warder" .....which is Swahilli for "Asswipe that resembles Richard Simmons muchly and smokes the pipe of flesh".

Everyone........give RedRaw bad karma until he repents...and stops screaming "ATTITUDE, Ladies!!"

Wow, im getting so much bad karma thanks to you! Apparently no one gives a flying **** wat u say. Yes...not a normal ****, but a winged-****! The Golden-Eagle of ****s.
:D i love Richard Simmons, hes so soft a cuddly! He says he wants to play with your little doggy balls.

we could be the baddest couple you and I..

beuty and the beast.

Elisabeth Furster Nietsche and some chick from Deliverance cast.

what do you say?

Name one female in the film Deliverance.

Name one female in the film Deliverance.
The fat guy, with the titties! :cool:

I was just exposing that panzergirl had no idea what he's talking about.

That needed to be exposed about as much as Rosie O'Donnell coming out of the closet, though. I don't think it was any big secret.

I was just exposing that panzergirl had no idea what he's talking about.

That needed to be exposed about as much as Rosie O'Donnell coming out of the closet, though. I don't think it was any big secret.

why are you so obsessed with whether or not i have a dick and whether its big or not..?

so you watch Deliverance a lot?

im sure they had some female characters in and around the houses at the start of the river.

whats your favourite quote from your movie, little piggie?

Only 3 women are given screen credits at all; and all of their parts come after the boat trip.

Kathy Rickman as as Nurse Lilley, Louise Coldren as Mrs. Biddiford, and Belinha Beatty (Ned's wife) as Martha Gentry.

A female extra at the beginning would hardly be a character.

You were obviously typing just to be typing.

I was just exposing that panzergirl had no idea what he's talking about.

That needed to be exposed about as much as Rosie O'Donnell coming out of the closet, though. I don't think it was any big secret.
Yea, but i dont think Panzergirl was trying to make a post which show-cased his profound and accurate knowledge of cinema! :rolleyes:

I sense u r a wee bit bored?

Garrett and all the Freddy haters, you are wrong. Freddy Krueger IS horror. The character is responsible for so much. The actor brings the most credibility to any horror role ever. I'll put Freddy against anybody. DeNiro as Frankenstein, Perkins as Norman Bates, anybody.

I won't deny that most of the other actors in the Nightmare movies weren't very good, but Freddy himself was excellent. Oh well, guess the actor has to be dead before anybody will admit how good he is in the role.

I typically don't like Wes Craven's works. Nightmare is the one thing he did correctly. And I personally like any of the Nightmare movies over any of the Friday the 13th, Halloween, Hellraiser, and Texas Chainsaw movies.

And Nightmare 2 is not the worst of the Nightmare movies, as most people say. Nightmare 5 is significantly worse.

The Freddy movies make the most sense as far as horror elements go in typical horror movies. Since Freddy is in a dream world, it makes sense that he can appear around any corner. All these other movies that do that, it makes no sense for this to occur. Especially with Jason or Michael Myers, guys that move about as fast as...a John Ruiz match.


Nah man i love freddy he is a great "baddie" though you have to admit later on he did become rather comedic, in the first he was perfect. When he would cut himself when trying to scare his victims, when he would appear from behind a very thin tree seemed to me like he was enjoying his new powers and having fun with these kids.
i especially liked the small glimpses of his face from behind a boiler or some other object.
Freddy was downright original and moved far away from the scooby doo like baddies seen in the halloween and friday the thirteenth movies (although friday the thirteenth 2 was rather good).
freddy is cool, nuff said.
Oh and i think 6 is by far the worst, it was terrible every death was pure rubbish :confused: i mean freddy kicking a teenager in a game, what the? I think the director was doing too much pot or something.

Only 3 women are given screen credits at all; and all of their parts come after the boat trip.

Kathy Rickman as as Nurse Lilley, Louise Coldren as Mrs. Biddiford, and Belinha Beatty (Ned's wife) as Martha Gentry.

A female extra at the beginning would hardly be a character.

You were obviously typing just to be typing.

er....hypocrit alert!

Yea, but i dont think Panzergirl was trying to make a post which show-cased his profound and accurate knowledge of cinema! :rolleyes:

I sense u r a wee bit bored?

No, I just think that someone who drops references to something should have some clue what he's talking about.

That's like making a reference to a female from 12 Angry Men. There is a minimum amount of knowledge one should possess before typing.

He's the same on the Boxing Forums. He's clearly irking some people who want to talk about boxing, not exchange random insults or read little inane one-liners as someone accumulates posts for no reason only than to have a bunch. If that wasn't his goal, why would he make an entire thread boasting of how many posts he has?

well, first of all ive grown wery tired of everyone assuming im a man. theres no evidence, so shut up!

yes, today ive made some posts that wherent all of exelent quality, good observation..

now, if everybody could just behave in a decent sivilised manner, cause im pretty sensitive we could all be better off, and the other boards wouldent be laughing at us the way they do..

youre a brute neils!

well, first of all ive grown wery tired of everyone assuming im a man. theres no evidence, so shut up!

yes, today ive made some posts that wherent all of exelent quality, good observation..

now, if everybody could just behave in a decent sivilised manner, cause im pretty sensitive we could all be better off, and the other boards wouldent be laughing at us the way they do..

youre a brute neils!


I'm going to let another post do my speaking right now. This was originally posted by oldgringo:

Panzerboy gets banned...and now we have to deal with Panzergirl. Both equally retarded. Both equally blind when it comes to boxing. Neither can talk about anything besides non-American HW boxing...hmmm very interesting.
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Now if you and Dr. Cynical, I mean RedRaw, will stop spamming and trolling, you might encounter more friendly posters on the board.

QUOTE=DamienFromTheAshes]Freddy Krueger IS horror. The character is responsible for so much. The actor brings the most credibility to any horror role ever. I'll put Freddy against anybody. DeNiro as Frankenstein, Perkins as Norman Bates, anybody. He was only good in the first few movies and had make up and special effects to create the character, wheresa Hopkins as Lecter or Perkins as Bates are both excellent actors, who were genuinlly creepy and convinvcing. Robert England as Krueger was great in the first as he didnt have much to say!
And I personally like any of the Nightmare movies over any of the Friday the 13th, Halloween, Hellraiser, and Texas Chainsaw movies. Whoa, thats a bold statement!
You seriously think Elm Street 5, or 6 is better than Texas Chainsaw, or Halloween!!??



The Freddy movies make the most sense as far as horror elements go in typical horror movies. Since Freddy is in a dream world, it makes sense that he can appear around any corner. All these other movies that do that, it makes no sense for this to occur. Especially with Jason or Michael Myers, guys that move about as fast as...a John Ruiz match.[/QUOT]
Any horror movie does not have its credibility based on how sensical it is. Freddy coming back to life in peoples dreams!

I respect your opinion, just disagree....REALLY disagree. lol
I love the first 2 films, but thought he turned into a terrible terrible joke.

Evil Dead 1 2 and army of darkness

This reminds me! Everybody kept telling me that Evil Dead 3 was awesome, great, etc.. and that I should watch it. I was already surprised that I had never seen it :eek: and then I mentioned Army of Darkness and that I liked it ok, etc..
Well, I went to the video store the other day to finally rent E.D. 3, and I felt pretty stupid when the cashier told me that Army of Darkness IS E.D. 3....DUH :o
(why didnt anybody point this out?? while suggesting that I watch it :D ), anyway, all of you that ask from time to time if I've seen it yet; YES!!! Years ago, thanks buddies :p

Army of Darkness was actually nearly all unused footage from the first two Evil Deads. Raimi decided it would be allright to put out what was more or less a comedy and less a horror as an end to the trilogy.

Now what's interesting, is Raimi being contacted for permission to use the character of Ash in a sequel to Freddy vs. Jason that would include Ash as the 3rd main character.

This reminds me! Everybody kept telling me that Evil Dead 3 was awesome, great, etc.. and that I should watch it. I was already surprised that I had never seen it :eek: and then I mentioned Army of Darkness and that I liked it ok, etc..
Well, I went to the video store the other day to finally rent E.D. 3, and I felt pretty stupid when the cashier told me that Army of Darkness IS E.D. 3....DUH :o
(why didnt anybody point this out?? while suggesting that I watch it :D ), anyway, all of you that ask from time to time if I've seen it yet; YES!!! Years ago, thanks buddies :p

Um...sorry I guess I missed that. Did you rent Bubba Ho-Tep yet?

Um...sorry I guess I missed that. Did you rent Bubba Ho-Tep yet?

bubba who? I dont remember you recommending that one but I've been so busy lately that's no surprise! :confused:

I just walked out of there empty handed...feeling pretty stupid :D

Never, and I mean never walk out of a video store empty handed girl. :D

Never, and I mean never walk out of a video store empty handed girl. :D

I know, I know....I was a little 'down' the rest of the night. My daughter was away for the night and I didnt even have a movie to watch :( It really sucked

I could really get into the Freddy discussion in really deep detail. I probably am the most pro-Freddy person, without question, on BoxingScene. I've done 3 research papers on Freddy and the Nightmare movies, so I pretty much know my stuff on those movies.

Nightmare 6- Yeah, it definitely could have been better, but I still like it a lot. I like both the comical Freddy and the dark Freddy. In a way, I think him joking about killing makes him that much more twisted. Plus, it is just so much more interesting.

I sort of know why Nightmare 6 ended up the way it did. Nightmare 5 bombed, or at least got huge bad reviews, so New Line was ready to cash out on Freddy one last time. Rachael Talalay, the director, she had been on every other Nightmare movie as some sort of line producer. She wanted to actually reveal more of Freddy's backstory, which some of that I thought was done well.

New Line was cramming all kinds of crap on her. They wouldn't give her any kind of decent effects for the movie. So she had to use this horrible 3-D gimmick, which she was against but it was all she could do. New Line also forced some cameos so they could advertise the movie. Johnny Depp, Rosanne and Tom Arnold (then), and Alice Cooper were all in the movie briefly.

Anyhow, there was just a lot of crap at New Line behind the scenes which sort of dragged down Nightmare 6 from what it could have been. And it was Talalay's first, maybe only, directing job. And it's sort of funny, when the movie first came out, everybody really liked it, then a couple years later everyone said it sucked.

Craven's New Nightmare had a similar thing happen. When it first came out, and actually until probably around 2001-2002 I noticed this...everyone LOVED it. It was unarguably one of the best 2 films of the series (I still think so). Then around 2001, people for some reason just started saying it wasn't that great. Don't know why.

And yes, I liked ANY Nightmare movie significantly better than any of those other movies, TCM or Halloween.

You wanna talk about bad sequels? The Nightmare series is NOT the horror series to even talk about when talking bad sequels. Jason, Myers, and the Hellraiser stuff easily take those prizes, certainly over the Nightmare series.

It's pretty clear that the big 3 horror people are Freddy, Jason, and Michael Myers...oh and Leatherface.

Freddy is the only one with any decent backstory for me though. There's too many unknowns or just stupid things about the others.

Jason- He drowned as a kid. Mother is pissed, kills camp counsellors who had nothing to do with it, but she's avenging her son's death by tormenting camp counsellors. They kill her, so Jason wants revenge on campers and all for killing his mother (because she was killing them, mind you). Sort of a lame premise. And Jason, who was dead all that time, apparently still grew up into an adult. Bad writing, imo. There's not a lot of consistency from film to film either.

Jason wasn't even in the majority of Friday the 13th 1 or 5. In the first, it was his mother. He pops out at the end. In the 5th film, it was an imposter- copy cat criminal type.

And Jason changes shapes and sizes in the films. He started out average sized. Then around 3-4, he got big and by 7-8, he was monsterously huge. Which, I liked that Kane Hodder version of Jason the most. He seemed the most intense.

Jason Goes to Hell...I actually seem to like it more than anybody else. Don't even know why. The plot is just pulled out of some crazed fan's ass it looks like. Only a voorhees can kill him they say, but at the beginning somewhere, a voorhees stabs him.

Jason X- OMG! I knew this movie would be horrible and I said it'd be the worst movie I'd ever seen before I went to see it. So I went in with that expectation. Any other time I've done that, the movie wouldn't be so bad. Here, this has been the ONLY instance ever that I went into a movie thinking it'd be horrible but it was somehow beyond how bad I imagined it. The movie was completed 2 years before they finally released it. New Line was clearly embarrassed as hell to release the damn thing. I would be too.

The Halloween movies- Michael Myers is a diagnosed antisocial behavior guy. That's the only real reason they give for him killing. So, if we believe that he is truly antisocial, this means he does not enjoy killing. He simply kills because...go figure. There is no motive. He doesn't do it because he can, because he's antisocial so he wouldn't care about that. He has no love in him, but he also doesn't have hate in him since he's antisocial. He's the personification of indifference.

I don't buy that premise, so the movies really don't work for me. And he's supposed to just be a normal human, no zombie or ghost or anything supernatural, so the films just lose all their credibility with Myers' abilities and immortality.

Yeah, all horror, you get to play with the real world rules, I'm not being one of those jackasses that's like "Well there's no way that could possibly happen." I'm hugely into film and theatre. Totally willing to give into the old "suspension of disbelief," but the story has to be set up correctly.

They gave Myers no device for him to have any kind of special powers. He's got a badass theme song, no doubt. But that doesn't mean he's immortal. They didn't have him do anything, not even eat magical dingleberries from the Enchanted Forest of Voorhees ass, or anything. And he comes on October 31 every year or some crap? Err...the setup doesn't work for me, so the series can't when you don't even buy the premise.

Anybody seen Halloween 3? Myers isn't even in the movie AT ALL. It's really not even a Halloween movie, shouldn't have been titled that. HORRIBLE movie. Bad horror movie about masks and a witch or some complete bs. And that damn annoying commercial they have in it...ugh.

At least Freddy was in every single one of his movies.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre- a family of cannibals in Texas. That movie only had a couple good moments. Having Leatherface open the door after the dumb ***** went in looked great. And when he put a girl on the meathook, it showed that hook and you knew she was going to end up on it. The anticipation of that was good.

The family dinner crap, I thought that was just lame. The dead grandfather is still somehow able to drink blood. I hated that crap.

Sadly, TCM 1 is easily the best of the films with Leatherface in them. I couldn't even finish the damn drag queen Leatherface they had in TCM: The New Generation or whatever. Can't believe Renee Zellweger and Matthew McConnahey (spelling?) were both in that crap.


I'm just glad they didn't greenlight Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash (from Evil Dead). That would've been really gay.

What I'd like personally is for them to make the prequel which they've discussed off and on since around 2000. They addressed it and showed it in that horrible Freddy's Nightmares TV series, but a film could actually do it justice.

And then I'd like a couple more Freddy sequels. I would love to direct them actually. I have a couple things I could add to the series that I think would rejunenvate it.

I could really get into the Freddy discussion in really deep detail. I probably am the most pro-Freddy person, without question, on BoxingScene. I've done 3 research papers on Freddy and the Nightmare movies, so I pretty much know my stuff on those movies.

Nightmare 6- Yeah, it definitely could have been better, but I still like it a lot. I like both the comical Freddy and the dark Freddy. In a way, I think him joking about killing makes him that much more twisted. Plus, it is just so much more interesting.

I sort of know why Nightmare 6 ended up the way it did. Nightmare 5 bombed, or at least got huge bad reviews, so New Line was ready to cash out on Freddy one last time. Rachael Talalay, the director, she had been on every other Nightmare movie as some sort of line producer. She wanted to actually reveal more of Freddy's backstory, which some of that I thought was done well.

New Line was cramming all kinds of crap on her. They wouldn't give her any kind of decent effects for the movie. So she had to use this horrible 3-D gimmick, which she was against but it was all she could do. New Line also forced some cameos so they could advertise the movie. Johnny Depp, Rosanne and Tom Arnold (then), and Alice Cooper were all in the movie briefly.

Anyhow, there was just a lot of crap at New Line behind the scenes which sort of dragged down Nightmare 6 from what it could have been. And it was Talalay's first, maybe only, directing job. And it's sort of funny, when the movie first came out, everybody really liked it, then a couple years later everyone said it sucked.

Craven's New Nightmare had a similar thing happen. When it first came out, and actually until probably around 2001-2002 I noticed this...everyone LOVED it. It was unarguably one of the best 2 films of the series (I still think so). Then around 2001, people for some reason just started saying it wasn't that great. Don't know why.

And yes, I liked ANY Nightmare movie significantly better than any of those other movies, TCM or Halloween.

You wanna talk about bad sequels? The Nightmare series is NOT the horror series to even talk about when talking bad sequels. Jason, Myers, and the Hellraiser stuff easily take those prizes, certainly over the Nightmare series.

It's pretty clear that the big 3 horror people are Freddy, Jason, and Michael Myers...oh and Leatherface.

Freddy is the only one with any decent backstory for me though. There's too many unknowns or just stupid things about the others.

Jason- He drowned as a kid. Mother is pissed, kills camp counsellors who had nothing to do with it, but she's avenging her son's death by tormenting camp counsellors. They kill her, so Jason wants revenge on campers and all for killing his mother (because she was killing them, mind you). Sort of a lame premise. And Jason, who was dead all that time, apparently still grew up into an adult. Bad writing, imo. There's not a lot of consistency from film to film either.

Jason wasn't even in the majority of Friday the 13th 1 or 5. In the first, it was his mother. He pops out at the end. In the 5th film, it was an imposter- copy cat criminal type.

And Jason changes shapes and sizes in the films. He started out average sized. Then around 3-4, he got big and by 7-8, he was monsterously huge. Which, I liked that Kane Hodder version of Jason the most. He seemed the most intense.

Jason Goes to Hell...I actually seem to like it more than anybody else. Don't even know why. The plot is just pulled out of some crazed fan's ass it looks like. Only a voorhees can kill him they say, but at the beginning somewhere, a voorhees stabs him.

Jason X- OMG! I knew this movie would be horrible and I said it'd be the worst movie I'd ever seen before I went to see it. So I went in with that expectation. Any other time I've done that, the movie wouldn't be so bad. Here, this has been the ONLY instance ever that I went into a movie thinking it'd be horrible but it was somehow beyond how bad I imagined it. The movie was completed 2 years before they finally released it. New Line was clearly embarrassed as hell to release the damn thing. I would be too.

The Halloween movies- Michael Myers is a diagnosed antisocial behavior guy. That's the only real reason they give for him killing. So, if we believe that he is truly antisocial, this means he does not enjoy killing. He simply kills because...go figure. There is no motive. He doesn't do it because he can, because he's antisocial so he wouldn't care about that. He has no love in him, but he also doesn't have hate in him since he's antisocial. He's the personification of indifference.

I don't buy that premise, so the movies really don't work for me. And he's supposed to just be a normal human, no zombie or ghost or anything supernatural, so the films just lose all their credibility with Myers' abilities and immortality.

Yeah, all horror, you get to play with the real world rules, I'm not being one of those jackasses that's like "Well there's no way that could possibly happen." I'm hugely into film and theatre. Totally willing to give into the old "suspension of disbelief," but the story has to be set up correctly.

They gave Myers no device for him to have any kind of special powers. He's got a badass theme song, no doubt. But that doesn't mean he's immortal. They didn't have him do anything, not even eat magical dingleberries from the Enchanted Forest of Voorhees ass, or anything. And he comes on October 31 every year or some crap? Err...the setup doesn't work for me, so the series can't when you don't even buy the premise.

Anybody seen Halloween 3? Myers isn't even in the movie AT ALL. It's really not even a Halloween movie, shouldn't have been titled that. HORRIBLE movie. Bad horror movie about masks and a witch or some complete bs. And that damn annoying commercial they have in it...ugh.

At least Freddy was in every single one of his movies.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre- a family of cannibals in Texas. That movie only had a couple good moments. Having Leatherface open the door after the dumb ***** went in looked great. And when he put a girl on the meathook, it showed that hook and you knew she was going to end up on it. The anticipation of that was good.

The family dinner crap, I thought that was just lame. The dead grandfather is still somehow able to drink blood. I hated that crap.

Sadly, TCM 1 is easily the best of the films with Leatherface in them. I couldn't even finish the damn drag queen Leatherface they had in TCM: The New Generation or whatever. Can't believe Renee Zellweger and Matthew McConnahey (spelling?) were both in that crap.


I'm just glad they didn't greenlight Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash (from Evil Dead). That would've been really gay.

What I'd like personally is for them to make the prequel which they've discussed off and on since around 2000. They addressed it and showed it in that horrible Freddy's Nightmares TV series, but a film could actually do it justice.

And then I'd like a couple more Freddy sequels. I would love to direct them actually. I have a couple things I could add to the series that I think would rejunenvate it.

wow i didnt even bother readen that ****
but it deserves some karma
just for the effort

Damien,

I'm a big Phantasm fan and the word is Wes Craven took the Nightmare idea from Coscoreli's Phantasm..any thoughts? You seem to be the Freddy expert. Most people consider Phantasm second rate. I think of it as great stuff...a little cheesy, but very original and funny/scary.

Damien,

I'm a big Phantasm fan and the word is Wes Craven took the Nightmare idea from Coscoreli's Phantasm..any thoughts? You seem to be the Freddy expert. Most people consider Phantasm second rate. I think of it as great stuff...a little cheesy, but very original and funny/scary.

Nightmare was based on a magazine article of real kids who claimed they were scared to death to go to sleep because of a killer in their dreams. It was more than one kid, and I believe it was in an asylum.

Can anyone help with the details?

Damien,

I'm a big Phantasm fan and the word is Wes Craven took the Nightmare idea from Coscoreli's Phantasm..any thoughts? You seem to be the Freddy expert. Most people consider Phantasm second rate. I think of it as great stuff...a little cheesy, but very original and funny/scary.


...phantasm was the ****. I have it on DVD and video and can't wait to show it to my son. Being that he is only 4 my wife wont allow it. The *****.

...phantasm was the ****. I have it on DVD and video and can't wait to show it to my son. Being that he is only 4 my wife wont allow it. The *****.

lol lol lol :D didnt think someone would say that about thier own wife. just noticed my post count 666. weird coincedence this close to halloween.

Jason Voorhees rocks. ;)
I love horror films, werewolves, vampires are the best for an average horror flick but you can't beat the unseen stuff or general creepiness of the real old films.
check this out
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/11013federico2-med.jpg

I like Evil Dead 2, one of my all time favs I just got both 1 and 2 on DVD, they still rock for being that old.

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/11013book_of_the_dead.jpg
and
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/11013ash_face-thumb.jpg

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/11013evilbart.jpg

and

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/11013jason_vs_freddy1-med.jpg

All the players in 'Identity' did well. I won't mention who's the villain to avoid giving away the ending.

All the players in 'Identity' did well. I won't mention who's the villain to avoid giving away the ending.
I know who it is, its you!!!!!!!!

I know who it is, its you!!!!!!!!

Keep it quiet or you're next

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All the players in 'Identity' did well. I won't mention who's the villain to avoid giving away the ending.

Good movie! Lot's of twists and turns, so to speak ;)

it was the one arm man

the lil kid

That's just wrong! :eek: Youre awful, you know? :p

That's just wrong! :eek: Youre awful, you know? :p
what are you talking about Tracy Lee? LOL ;)

what are you talking about Tracy Lee? LOL ;)

Nutin! Hopefully nobody else will 'catch on'....meanie! :D

I will
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book of toa

actually the one who said Freddy was based on articles was mostly right.

Craven's biggest influence was this asian kid who was having terrible nightmares and he actually had a coffee pot hidden in his closet (like the girl in the first film). They took him to the doctor but it wasn't much help. One night the guy stayed up in their den and fell asleep finally, so the father put him into bed. The next morning they tried to wake him but he had died. And the coroner couldn't determine a cause of death but said it wasn't from heart failure or heart attack (from having the nightmare).

Whether the guy died from a nightmare or not...whatever. It still gave Craven the inspiration for my favorite villain of all time.

There are so many reasons Freddy is so good...at being bad. He's in kids dreams, so he's under the sheets with them. He gets inside of them. Just that psychological element is creepy.

With most other horror people, you could possibly run to say...Mars...and escape them. But Freddy is in your dreams, so you can't run somewhere to escape him. The only way to escape him is to stay awake. Any insomniac will tell you, staying awake forever sucks. I know, as I have some insomnia issues I think (although they're mostly self-inflicted).

The problem with staying awake for long periods is that the longer you stay awake, the longer you will sleep when you finally do fall asleep...and you will fall asleep. There is no escape. So just that anticipation makes it horrifying. Meeting Freddy is therefore inevitable.

Yeah.

The possibilities, so many ways to go with that idea.
Leatherfaces inspiration was more amusing, the writer was standing in a long cue in a hardware store and saw a chainsaw, the thoughts that entered his head contributed in making the controversial horror film the texas chainsaw massacre.

it was the one arm man

Awwww, too late babe, I already quoted you! :p