The Raging Bull Was Never A Top Caliber Boxer In Any Form, Buy What He Lacked In Technical Skills He Made Up For With Old School, Brown Gloved Age, Brute Force... Not To Disgrace This Legend In Any Way, But Was He Truly Great Or Just The Past Equivalent Of Arturro Gatti?

The Raging Bull Was Never A Top Caliber Boxer In Any Form, Buy What He Lacked In Technical Skills He Made Up For With Old School, Brown Gloved Age, Brute Force... Not To Disgrace This Legend In Any Way, But Was He Truly Great Or Just The Past Equivalent Of Arturro Gatti?

Well I doubt a Gatti would beat a robinson...... and Lamotta's defense was underated, could role with a punch and was able to out jab a lot of guys and bully everyone around the ring. Good old school fighter who had strategies to wear down his opponents.

Not the best middleweight of all time but a great none the less.

Well I doubt a Gatti would beat a robinson...... and Lamotta's defense was underated, could role with a punch and was able to out jab a lot of guys and bully everyone around the ring. Good old school fighter who had strategies to wear down his opponents.

Not the best middleweight of all time but a great none the less.

Yup I agree I'd say Lamotta was tougher then Gatti aswell.

Lamotta was definitely better than Gatti. He wasn't a a great technical boxer in the usual sense but he was skilled in his style no doubt. He was great at cutting the ring off, good at slipping and rolling with punches. Add in that he was very strong physically he could impose his will on many of his opponents and had a pure granite chin. Lamotta is definitely a top 10 middleweight of all time.

Id agree with everyone above, not the best boxer but underated, he had some skill, definately better than gatti and tougher as well. All time great

The Raging Bull Was Never A Top Caliber Boxer In Any Form, Buy What He Lacked In Technical Skills He Made Up For With Old School, Brown Gloved Age, Brute Force... Not To Disgrace This Legend In Any Way, But Was He Truly Great Or Just The Past Equivalent Of Arturro Gatti?

Sounds like you're describing this man:

http://www.pekingduck.org/archives/Raging%20Bull.jpg

And not this man:

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Media/lamotta_BIG.jpg

Giacobe Lamotta had the best chin in boxing History! He also holds notable wins over Sugar Ray Robinon, Fritzie Zivic, marcel cerdan and laurent dauthville. Gatti comes no where near to this illustrious man. Of course Jake La Motta is an all time great.

atg for sure

Being the first man to beat Robinson in and of itself should cause people to take notice. And what is wrong with "old-school" toughness? This isn't the first time I've seen toughness belittled as a fighting trait. Personally I regard toughness as a virtue in a fighter.

Poet

LaMotta fought almost every top contender from welterweight to light heavyweight (Fritzie Zivic, Tommy Bell, Bert Lytell, Jose Basora, future HW contender Bob Satterfield, Holman Williams and Tony Janiro) but he didn't get a title shot until he took a dive against Billy Fox...

He then defeated Marcel Cerdan for the middleweight title (at age 30) and defended it two times (against Dauthuille and Mitri) before losing to Ray Robinson by TKO in their 6th fight (none of their fights before ended as decisively as the last one).

LaMotta was never the same after that brutal loss.

"The Bronx Bull" was in my opinion one of the greatest middleweights of all time while Gatti was never great in any weight class.

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LaMotta's best rounds against Robinson.

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LaMotta defeats Marcel Cerdan.

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Old LaMotta beating up Bob Murphy.

oh without doubt an ATG! Poor Bob Murphy, Jake knocked his ass all over the place!

LaMotta fought almost every top contender from welterweight to light heavyweight (Fritzie Zivic, Tommy Bell, Bert Lytell, Jose Basora, future HW contender Bob Satterfield, Holman Williams and Tony Janiro) but he didn't get a title shot until he took a dive against Billy Fox...

He then defeated Marcel Cerdan for the middleweight title (at age 30) and defended it two times (against Dauthuille and Mitri) before losing to Ray Robinson by TKO in their 6th fight (none of their fights before ended as decisively as the last one).

LaMotta was never the same after that brutal loss.

"The Bronx Bull" was in my opinion one of the greatest middleweights of all time while Gatti was never great in any weight class.

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LaMotta's best rounds against Robinson.

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LaMotta defeats Marcel Cerdan.

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Old LaMotta beating up Bob Murphy.

Funny thing is, LaMotta couldn't punch worth a lick. He overwealmed opponents with volume punching that started with the opening bell and continued until the end of the fight. Opponents where simply worn down by the accumulations of dozens and dozens of punches. Then too, LaMotta had one of the best ever chins, much like Marvin Hagler of more recent times. And ANY one who can give the best fighter who ever lived, Robinson, trouble in fight after fight has to be a damn good fighter himself.

Poet