http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/19/1047749824415.html

This is from The Age. Just for those that don't know the source, it's considered the most reputable newspaper in Australia btw.

Interesting to consider, but hardly suprising.

- The Jake

**** your liberal hippie publications.......

Another good one:

Welcome to the New World Order
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/19/1047749824412.html

Explains why the French president pretty much shot diplomacy in the arse and pushed Bush to start this war.

- The Jake

Not suprising at all. We know that it's about oil.

Originally posted by kaps
**** your liberal hippie publications.......

hahaha

it's food for thought Kaps, that's all I'm saying.

On a different note, what liberal means to Americans and what it means out here are very different things.

For instance, it's the Liberal Party that runs the country (under our illustrious Prime Minister John Howard) and it's them that actually AGREE with Bush and supports the US in this war.

It just happens to be the rest of the country and Parliament that doesn't.....

- The Jake

Don't you think it's strange to be doing this now. After the gulf war saddam was killing people and I didn't hear to many amercians talking about it. Why didn't you take saddam out of power then?

Okay Jake, Americans are not blind, we know this is about oil......

Spot on mate.

Just reading about that document however makes you realise it really is all just one big scam.

Don't forget where the Bushes' family wealth comes from....

- The Jake

If this is whats got to happen for me not to pay $2.07 for a gallon of gas then Im all for it......

I am too. **** him. Let's take his oil. I'm not paying those prices.

Why do you think you're paying those prices?

Idiots...****ing bandwagon jumping idiots.....

Ive been pro war before we had somebody to fight.......

Curly are you calling me a idot.

http://www.darkintellect.com/users/spider/patriot.jpg

Originally posted by gman
Curly are you calling me a idot.

No he said Idiot, I believe he was talking to me too......

Originally posted by gman
http://www.darkintellect.com/users/spider/patriot.jpg

Its funny because its true......

heheheh that's a funny sticker!

- The Jake

I'm calling you an idiot gman. you sit there and say it's an oil war.
It's cool to hate America now so you jump right in. It's about a leader of a country who uses terrorism and biological weapons.
It's about a mad man with nuclear weapons or the capability to make them. He has shown little regard for human life and will use any of these weapons to get what he wants. What should we do? Write him letters? Have a protest?

Originally posted by Curly Howard
I'm calling you an idiot gman. you sit there and say it's an oil war.
It's cool to hate America now so you jump right in. It's about a leader of a country who uses terrorism and biological weapons.
It's about a mad man with nuclear weapons or the capability to make them. He has shown little regard for human life and will use any of these weapons to get what he wants. What should we do? Write him letters? Have a protest?

I've been saying this for 3 month's. I don't think it's cool to hate america. I disagree with you government sometimes. But you guy's got my back and you can take him out of power all you want go ahead. Just don't say that your doing it for human right's. Because I never seen any of this talk about him before your oil price's started to rise.

I'm not even going to get started in here...

Then why post?

To up her post count, duh......

gman, you're an idiot, and that's all I'm going to say for the time being.

Kaps is right. I'm trying to catch up to him.
You're my idol, kaps!!

Why do you think I asked a point-less question? We have to hide are post whoreing in real threads from the post-nazi.

Originally posted by Curly Howard
It's about a leader of a country who uses terrorism and biological weapons.
It's about a mad man with nuclear weapons or the capability to make them. He has shown little regard for human life and will use any of these weapons to get what he wants. What should we do? Write him letters? Have a protest?

Are we talking about Bush here or Saddam???

- The Jake

Originally posted by Bella
gman, you're an idiot, and that's all I'm going to say for the time being.

Kaps is right. I'm trying to catch up to him.
You're my idol, kaps!!

I know.....

Originally posted by The Jake
Are we talking about Bush here or Saddam???

- The Jake

If with hair like that. He can still own.

Im so happy we are invading iraq. I couldnt stop laughin my ass off, how all those peace protestors demonstrated for nothing...ahahahahahah. good job dicks your opinion really matters. Bush 4 LIFE

Originally posted by miller8966
Im so happy we are invading iraq. I couldnt stop laughin my ass off, how all those peace protestors demonstrated for nothing...ahahahahahah. good job dicks your opinion really matters. Bush 4 LIFE

Retarded right now. 4 sure.

Originally posted by The Jake
Just for those that don't know the source, it's considered the most reputable newspaper in Australia btw.

thanks for letting me know that. know i now not to even consider looking at the article. who and wtf do your ****in australian publisist know about ****?! what does you country do to make this world a better place? nothing.

now shut the **** up and back us up or get shot down for trying to point **** out to make the US look petty and try to make us look like *******s. We're not the *******'s here, uits that motheruckin terrorist. he is a terrorist, he harbors it... he kills his own people. i don't care for what the REAL reasons are. WE just made one so we can do what we gotta do. WE own. WE rule. We come in, kick everyone's ass and get what we want. Sometimes you need reasons to do ****... like cops gotta have a valid reason to pull you over... sometimes they will just make something up, even if it makes sense... gives them the open to do whatever the **** is the REAL reason.

now take your aussie booolsheeeit and shove it ****face.

I hate you too Dogg.

You still didn't answer my question where babies come from you cunt.

- The Jake

OK first of all if that document exists, why hasn't it been brought to light by our liberal press, gov. officials, etc. and the whole euro thing is just funny. A good friend of mine did some research, as a paper in a 500 level class and the University of Michigan, about the whole euro thing. He got an A for basically bashing the whole concept that we need the dollar to be the world currence to say in status quo.

The euro hasn't proven its self to be a super currency yet.

Originally posted by ig0r1eye
OK first of all if that document exists, why hasn't it been brought to light by our liberal press, gov. officials, etc. and the whole euro thing is just funny. A good friend of mine did some research, as a paper in a 500 level class and the University of Michigan, about the whole euro thing. He got an A for basically bashing the whole concept that we need the dollar to be the world currence to say in status quo.

The euro hasn't proven its self to be a super currency yet.

And yet, it's worth almost the identical amount as the US dollar! *gasp!*

- The Jake

Acually its more. but economics is ****ed up like that.

what Ive thought about recently is how little public opinion means to the decisions of our countries leaders.

whether your for or against the war, every american should at least consider that.

Dont get me wrong, Im proud of what my grandfather did in WW2,
But since even Vietnam, this country has made serious changes in politics that the majority of citizens were unaware of.

reguardless of the outcome, the country is about to make serious changes. For better or worse.

This is partly about oil but honestly we are going to ****ing free these people from oppression. I dont give a **** why it started, this is a good thing for us and the iraqi ppl. We are taking a mad man, who oppreses his ppl and persecutes them and gives them little to no rights, out of power. This is the right thing to do. Im sick of this anti war bull****. This could not be resolved politically, so the us took it into its own hands along with other countries to rid the world of this evil. And all the countries who were against this were out for thier own interest.

Thank you have a nice day

There is the possibility that Iraq doesnt want Democracy.After all, they never lived it. and most people usually fear change.

do u really think these ppl like thast if they say a bad thing about thier government or break a law that they will be killed, tortured, or raped. Sure they are scared, but come on now, When this is over the Iraqi people will be leading a better life.

Being honest Christopher, I worry that Bush was a madman.

Not to draw comparisons here, but Hitler started out by doing his own thing, ****ing off with the rest of the world says and doing his own thing. He did was he thought was for the betterment of the country, de damned what anyone else said or thought.

This was why the people rallied behind him and supported him originally.

It wasn't until the Germans invaded Poland that the world really paid attention.

- The Jake

well...i guess that article is the aussie way to justify not doing ****..."MAKING **** UP, AUSTRALIAN FOR NEWS". we are at war because guidelines were set and not ****in' followed. i don't give a rat's ass about the people of Iraq...if we kill 'em, who ****in' cares...if we help 'em out...who ****in' cares. All I care about is removing a tyrant from power so he can't threaten MY interests anymore...like my country, my freedom, and my family.

next we need to blow the **** out of France for selling iraq weapons of mass destruction along with some serious missiles, and then ***** slap Canada for acting like a bunch of maple loving ******* and backing out on us...

Wow I didn't realise hillbilly hicks had internet access to the forum as well!

Yeah you tell them Laura!

**** what the rest of the world thinks! **** everyone else! I don't give a **** unless it affects me!

I suppose you don't give a **** about greenhouse emissions, the erosion of our ozone, rising water levels due to the melting of the polar icecaps, world famine, etc, either do you?

- The Jake

couldn't care ****in' less....it'll work out...and if it doesn't then we weren't meant to be here...

I'll give a **** what the rest of the world thinks when it has the balls to stand up instead of backing out of ****...

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to go start my gas-guzzling, carbon monoxide emitting monster truck and run over your ***** ass...

Originally posted by Laura
couldn't care ****in' less....it'll work out...and if it doesn't then we weren't meant to be here...

I'll give a **** what the rest of the world thinks when it has the balls to stand up instead of backing out of ****...

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to go start my gas-guzzling, carbon monoxide emitting monster truck and run over your ***** ass...

The world does back 'your ****' as you call it. Ever heard of NATO? the ANZUS treaty? Laura, most of the world DOES back 'your ****' to put it midly.

Your country has a habit however of ****ing over other countries to get what it want, be damned what anyone else says or thinks. It builds it's own economy at the expense of ****ing over others.

If America had more mouths to feed than the rest of the world combined, I could agree with you. But the simple fact is the needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few.

Surely if most of the world (including large segments of America's own population) rise up and say THIS WAR IS WRONG that you can see something must be fundamentally wrong with the system? I don't just mean the US but I mean the entire world. I'm not saying the Australian government is perfect either (far, far,far from it) but at least the people know they've got a liar for a prime minister.

- The Jake

hmmm...the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...that sounds somewhat similar to communism...that's a great idea!!!

america does have it's own people to feed...but i seem to recall providing substantial amounts of assistance to numerous countries that can't do things for themselves...fight, feed, clothe...but i guess that doesn't matter...

i'm trying to think of who we've ****ed over....hmmm...nothing really comes to mind...

so basically, you didn't have a point in that last post...good job jake...

Originally posted by Laura
well...i guess that article is the aussie way to justify not doing ****..."MAKING **** UP, AUSTRALIAN FOR NEWS". we are at war because guidelines were set and not ****in' followed. i don't give a rat's ass about the people of Iraq...if we kill 'em, who ****in' cares...if we help 'em out...who ****in' cares. All I care about is removing a tyrant from power so he can't threaten MY interests anymore...like my country, my freedom, and my family.

next we need to blow the **** out of France for selling iraq weapons of mass destruction along with some serious missiles, and then ***** slap Canada for acting like a bunch of maple loving ******* and backing out on us...

Laura shut the **** up. Don't insult my country. We don't have to back you. It's are choice. Calling us ******* can't be futher from the truth. World war 1, World war 2 and vietnam war over 10,000 of us died. So don't be calling us ***** because we won't kill for a none-justifed cause.

what is "are choice"...anyway...that's not the point...I wasn't talkin' about the conflicts that you have been involved in...mmkay? i'm talkin' about this one...you know..."hey, we're your neighbor to the north and we'll help you out...oh wait...never mind"...that's pretty ****ty...and it is a justified cause...if the missiles they have can reach us, they can reach you just as well...

Originally posted by Laura
hmmm...the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...that sounds somewhat similar to communism...that's a great idea!!!

Do you have any clue of the differences between communism and a democracy? **** your election was hijacked by a guy who WASN'T VOTED IN. Doesn't that concern you? It would scare the **** out of me!


america does have it's own people to feed...but i seem to recall providing substantial amounts of assistance to numerous countries that can't do things for themselves...fight, feed, clothe...but i guess that doesn't matter...

*sigh*
I'm tired of address this argument.

So what are you saying? Based on the good will the US have already put forward, they're entitled to do whatever they feel like?


i'm trying to think of who we've ****ed over....hmmm...nothing really comes to mind...

Then you need to go back over your history books.


so basically, you didn't have a point in that last post...good job jake...

My point is you're an uneducated **** with no recollection of history making comments with no foundation of a clue whatsoever.

Why don't you go here (http://www.globalmma.net/community/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=9) and post something you're more comfortable with dealing with?

- The Jake

Originally posted by Laura
what is "are choice"...anyway...that's not the point...I wasn't talkin' about the conflicts that you have been involved in...mmkay? i'm talkin' about this one...you know..."hey, we're your neighbor to the north and we'll help you out...oh wait...never mind"...that's pretty ****ty...and it is a justified cause...if the missiles they have can reach us, they can reach you just as well...

No you called us ***** because we're not willing to go fight somebody for no real reason. We will fight if we have to. Do we have to fight now, no.Plus that he's going to hurt me and my kids **** won't fly. You have the one of the most powerfull army's in the world. Does that mean that I have the right to kill your present because I feel unsafe with you having nuclear missle's. I didn't see iraq pressing for this war. I never even seen iraq fire a shot intill they were being hit with missle's. The U.N. inspectors went and found nothing. You have no prove of these chemical weapons or proff that he plans to use them if he has them.

Communism: a scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all....so how is that not "the good of the man outweighs the good of the few"...isn't that what you said?

I'm not saying that the thousands of good will projects we have spear headed, contributed to, and enforced justify our actions...I'm saying that the hard work put into this country give us the right to kick ass...we are protecting ourselves...do you understand that? we're not going to take over iraq, we're not going to conform it's government...we are protecting ourselves...

Really...I can't think of any country that we've ****ed over by selling missiles banned by the UN...or chemical/biological weapons (which are banned by the UN in case you didn't know)...or transported illegal weapons for...or harbored known terrorists...hmmm...

ummm...if you'll review I did call you guys ******* for "backing out on us"...if you didn't want to fight...you shouldn't have stepped up to the plate in the first place....you're right, you don't have to...

if we can get missiles over there...you can bet your sweet canadian ass that he can get 'em over here...

and it's not the fact that iraq has nuclear weapons...it's the fact that they have the wrong kind and too many...i'm sorry...did you miss the brief given by colin powell with aerial photographs of nuclear bombs being moved along with intercepted telephone conversations between iraqui officials talking about moving the rest of the nuclear weapons the day before the inspectors came? i guess that's not proof...

oh yeah...gman, this wasn't started because iraq "shot" first...it started because sadaam didn't comply with guidelines set forth in 1991...and he still refuses to do so...

Give it up Laura......These two are experts on U S politics....I am starting to think that they want Sadam to have nuclear and Bio weapons to use. Sadam has shown such good judgment in the past I guess they feel he would be responsible with them...Oh yeah that's right....These weapons wouldn't be used against Australia or Canada would they?

You have nuclear weapons too? I am speaking of prove of plans to use them against the U.S. or it's allies. Did you see this, no really. A country should be allowed to protect it's self. The second that they send a nuclear missle outside of their boarders. Bomb the **** out of them.

No, we only Trained Americas most feared man sense Hitler to fight back the russians.
Now CIA trained Osama Bin Laden is most likely gunning for the US over some dispute only the CIA and al quieda know about.

the jake wrote

[Not to draw comparisons here, but Hitler started out by doing his own thing, ****ing off with the rest of the world says and doing his own thing. He did was he thought was for the betterment of the country, de damned what anyone else said or thought.]

Heyyou nailed it, Adolf Hitler. Time Magazines' man of the year 2 years in a row.

Originally posted by Laura
oh yeah...gman, this wasn't started because iraq "shot" first...it started because sadaam didn't comply with guidelines set forth in 1991...and he still refuses to do so...

Excuse me they have complied with guild lines according to U.N. inspectors.

I didnt know ***** Tits was so political. Its so cute.

Originally posted by Curly Howard
Give it up Laura......These two are experts on U S politics....I am starting to think that they want Sadam to have nuclear and Bio weapons to use. Sadam has shown such good judgment in the past I guess they feel he would be responsible with them...Oh yeah that's right....These weapons wouldn't be used against Australia or Canada would they?

I would perfer if they were no nuclear or bio weapons at all but the fact is their here and for your great peacefull nation such as U.S. I don't see yourselfs in a big hurry to disarm.

ummm...yes, i believe that there have been threats to the us...oh, did you mean have I specifically seen them...no, sorry...i try to stay away from sadaam hussein

oh yeah...they have been bombing outside of their borders for a while now...ever heard of Kuwait? i don't know about you, but i'd like to remove the threat of anthrax as soon as possible...i believe the colloquialism i'm most familiar with is "nippin it in the bud"

ch...i guess you're right...sadaam's not that bad...he's a great leader...let's just leave 'em alone...let's give peace a chance...'cause it's been pretty damn affective to this point!

Originally posted by Allison
I didnt know ***** Tits was so political. Its so cute.

college student, I have to sit in coffee shops discussing the world. it's my job.

ummm...gman...that last post didn't make too much sense...wtf? can you please clarify?

ummm...so far the only thing you seem to have a clue about is hockey, rugby, and hairy nipples...

Originally posted by Laura
Communism: a scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all....so how is that not "the good of the man outweighs the good of the few"...isn't that what you said?

On a side note, I'd like to point out how awesome Google is.

You're twisting what I'm saying. I wasn't discussing redistribution of wealth. I was discussion the right to life and the liberties that the US is so proud of, it's happy to take away or impede upon those of others if it benefits their own people.

Obviously a government has to take care of it's own people but the fact that the US can scam on other people, and does so repeatedly (look at how the deal with Canada in regard to it's water shortages) is apalling.


I'm not saying that the thousands of good will projects we have spear headed, contributed to, and enforced justify our actions...I'm saying that the hard work put into this country give us the right to kick ass...we are protecting ourselves...do you understand that? we're not going to take over iraq, we're not going to conform it's government...we are protecting ourselves...

1) Where is the evidence that Iraq have WMD?
2) When has Iraq demonstrated it's willingness to use them?
3) If you're protecting yourselves then why aren't you scouring every nook and cranny of Pakistan to find Osama (that's where is apparently)?
4) No clear link between Osama Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Iraq or Saddam Hussein has been drawn. So how do you justify the attack is in 'self defence'?
5) The main violation of the materials breach was a rocket which as Hockey points out can travel 180km which is 30km beyond the restriction. I'd like to see how that could constitute a threat the American people.

If I could see a clearly discernable logic and evidence supporting it, I'd agree with you. But there is none, the US hasn't given any and the world majority disagrees with you. It's that simple really.


Really...I can't think of any country that we've ****ed over by selling missiles banned by the UN...or chemical/biological weapons (which are banned by the UN in case you didn't know)...or transported illegal weapons for...or harbored known terrorists...hmmm...

Funny you should say that Laura, are you familiar with the Iran-Contra scandal of '86? Former president Ronald Reagan confirmed reports that the United States had secretly sold arms to Iran.

How about training known terrorists to incite political unrest and thereby taking over a country? That's how Afghanistan came to be ruled by the Taliban. It's also how Saddam Hussein came to power.

How about using drug money to fund a war? The CIA did it to fund the Vietnam war.

It's funny how the US Government TOTALLY forgets what it starts, then when it comes around and bites the arse, they get all up in arms about it.

I could go on and on, but I won't. These are clearly documented cases too. I'm not quoting conspiracy theory **** either. Do another google search and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Fact is that the US government has a history of interference in other countries, often without good reason (beyond protecting it's oil interests in the Middle East) and this is largely the reason why this **** comes back to bite them in the arse.

- The Jake

Originally posted by Laura
ummm...yes, i believe that there have been threats to the us...oh, did you mean have I specifically seen them...no, sorry...i try to stay away from sadaam hussein

oh yeah...they have been bombing outside of their borders for a while now...ever heard of Kuwait? i don't know about you, but i'd like to remove the threat of anthrax as soon as possible...i believe the colloquialism i'm most familiar with is "nippin it in the bud"

ch...i guess you're right...sadaam's not that bad...he's a great leader...let's just leave 'em alone...let's give peace a chance...'cause it's been pretty damn affective to this point!

So they went to war with Iran and all that. But Iran is more proven weapons them iraq. So what's next after iraq? How many other countries most fall, so america can concer the world.

Originally posted by Laura
ummm...gman...that last post didn't make too much sense...wtf? can you please clarify?

I'm a college student therefor I have to be political.

Wow. War is touchy...

I didn't use google...try again!

1. evidence of wmd = intercepted telephone conversations, video tapes of the affects of said weapons (on his own people), residue found in various buildings/ground, etc.
2. iraq has threatened the us many times...
3. ummm...we do have troops "scouring every nook and cranny" looking for bin laden...just because you don't hear about it anymore because something else is going on doesn't mean it's not happening...
4. I don't think I ever said jack **** about a link between 9-11-01 and what's going on now...they have no connection as far as i'm concerned...
5. among the conversations intercepted about removing the illegal weapons along with the necessary equipment required to move something of that size, there is video footage and, I do believe they found a sub-terrainian factory for building nuclear weapons...

you know what the most hilarious thing about this is? you gave sooooo many examples of america ****ing over all these other countries...when, if you read what you wrote...we only ****ed over ourselves...so guess what...we're un****in' it...nice try though.

gman...are you really in college...'cause you need to take grammar 101 and work on the spelling buddy!!!

i wasn't referring to the college/political statement...i was talkin' about "wishin' there were no wmd but the us has blah, blah, blah"...don't worry about it.

i don't recall iran blatantly threatening us...but, i do admit, i am not too current on what's been goin' on there...but if we need to we'll handle it when it happens...

news flash walter cronkite...america is not trying to CONQUER the world...

britches

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRITCHES!!!

Originally posted by Laura
I didn't use google...try again!

1. evidence of wmd = intercepted telephone conversations, video tapes of the affects of said weapons (on his own people), residue found in various buildings/ground, etc.

That was evidence of Iraq concealing ****. But it was not the smoking gun that the UN was looking for.

2. iraq has threatened the us many times...
You mean after the US lined up outside it's borders and issued the ultimatum or you talking before that?


3. ummm...we do have troops "scouring every nook and cranny" looking for bin laden...just because you don't hear about it anymore because something else is going on doesn't mean it's not happening...

If they after Bin Laiden, why not drop the army off there and start searching like they did Afghanistan? Point is, this is not about fighting terrorism which has been the American position all along.


4. I don't think I ever said jack **** about a link between 9-11-01 and what's going on now...they have no connection as far as i'm concerned...

Then you haven't been paying attention to the US speeches given at the UNSC meetings.

The US position was that they were proving Iraq was a rogue nation that was supplying terrorists with weapons and that their relationship could expand to supplying them with WMD which could be used against US interests.

That said, all the **** you highlighted above, doesn't change the fact that the rest of the world disagrees with the US. It's really that simple. I'll even put it into an equation for you:

The rest of the world > America.

5. among the conversations intercepted about removing the illegal weapons along with the necessary equipment required to move something of that size, there is video footage and, I do believe they found a sub-terrainian factory for building nuclear weapons...

Funny - that pretty much contravenes IAEA findings that the inspectors don't believe that Iraq has nuclear capability, which they testified before the UN.


you know what the most hilarious thing about this is? you gave sooooo many examples of america ****ing over all these other countries...when, if you read what you wrote...we only ****ed over ourselves...so guess what...we're un****in' it...nice try though.

It's not funny your country ass ****ed itself. It's horrifying. But I digress.

You said that the US didn't supply WMD.
I proved that it has supplied rogue states with weapons.
And if that weren't enough, it's trained and supported terrorists which eventually hurt their interests that they were trying to protect. It was reflecting how their foreign policy bites them in the arse because they choose to get involved rather than taking a more passive stance.

**** this ****, if you can't understand that, then it's not my problem. I'm getting my breakfast.

- The Jake

so Jake....when are you coming to Cali?????/

http://www.gwbush.com/store/images/saddam/anyonebut.gif

Originally posted by Blue Bulldogge
Wow. War is touchy... I know. These people need to relax.

when did Canadians get to vote?

This bothers me so ****ing much because the ideals that the American nation was founded on I deeply believe in.

However, it's my sincere belief that those ideals extend to it's own borders only and not the rest of the world, and it's reflected (both in the past and today) in how the US Government deals with other countries.

- The Jake

Originally posted by Curly Howard
when did Canadians get to vote?

I don't get to vote for the merican presdent I just want you to know that you shouldn't be voting for bush.

AHHH...i see you're on the smoking gun band wagon too...way to think for yourself!!!

Yes, Iraq has threatened us prior to us "lining the borders"...ha, ha...did you know those bases are there all the time? they didn't just appear...some, yes, but there is still a military presence...

Ummm...I don't know if you're noticed...but we're kinda involved in some other **** right now...so focusing a large group of troops to look for bin laden isn't at the top of the list...mmmmkay? but the effort is still being made...

apparently you don't pay ****ing attention because i stated that I never said **** about 9-11...and that i don't agree that there is a link...mmmkay? i don't care what the opinion of cn-****in'-n is...but, i'm pretty sure they do harbor terrorists...but that's not the reason we're at war...mmmmmkay?

yes, america has made mistakes...i'm not denying that...but we're rectifying them right now...you, however, stated that we've ****ed over soooo many countries...when, in fact, it's been ourselves that we've been ****ing over...i'm not saying THAT's hilarious...I'm saying it's hilarious that you gave so many examples...and not one of them stated how WE ****ed over any one else...which was the whole basis of your "argument".

And if you can't ****in' understand that...it's not my ****in' problem...bwhahahaha!!!

Hi

are you highjacking? or just being cordial?

Hi

you too, eh?

Neither. Just post whoring...

Laura, you're not even addressing points I've raised. You read half a sentence and then twist it.

Learn to read and how to conduct a proper argument.

- The Jake

Whoring on.

Ill post suck ya for 5$

ummm...no, jake, i read your all of your points...and even referred back to them to insure I was addressing the topic correctly...so, perhaps it's you who's missing the point...you know, this isn't a role playing game...you can't pretend you know what the **** you're talking about...mmmmmmmkay?

you guys are my two favorite whores!!!

Whoreing is my favorite sport.

you're pretty at it....

Am I a whore? It's possible.

More sex leads to better sleep, reveals study


Sexual appetite is entirely a matter of personal taste. Some have sex once a day and others once a month, but one thing is for sure - no one is getting as much as everyone else thinks they are.

In a recent study by a condom manufacturer, 60 percent of participants claimed they had sex at least once a week. Only four percent said they had sex every day.

On average, people across the world are having sex three times a week. The French are the most amorous, followed by lovers in Holland and Denmark with Singapore and Thailand bringing up the rear.

Touching, cuddling and stroking - and sex itself - are the glue that keeps a relationship together, because these actions that you might take for granted actually release endorphins that create a special bond between you and your partner. To this end, it has been suggested that married and co-habiting couples should have sex three to five times a week.

Key findings in the National Sleep Foundation's 2001 Sleep In America poll showed that 52 percent of people spend less time having sex than they did five years ago; 38 percent say they have sex less than once a week; and 25 percent of those people report more daytime sleepiness than those having sex two to three times a week.

Reduced sex and lower marital satisfaction have an impact on your sleeping habits, says the sex-sleep survey: about 47 percent of those with less marital satisfaction said they were sleeping less today than five years ago.

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thanks!!!!

Hijack!

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SO HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK DO YOU GET IT?




















TELL THE TRUTH

0

Im in a drought...


So for me...0

Originally posted by gman
0 Jimmy, we need to get some ducks(ugly women) to end our drought...you down?

last week 3, 0 this week, Gf's on the rag so it's BJ week.

Originally posted by Blue Bulldogge
last week 3, 0 this week, Gf's on the rag so it's BJ week. BJ is better than a self-handjob



As a reminder...




http://morbidfascinations.org/images/hijack1.jpg

Originally posted by Blue Bulldogge
last week 3, 0 this week, Gf's on the rag so it's BJ week.

hey when the red river is flowing take the brown road.

I don't do that. Poo is gross, mmmmkay.

the real reasons for war, the oil reserves of iraq are worth:

3,600,000,000,000 dollars or the equivalent of 360,000,000,000 barrels of oil.

Originally posted by Piedra
the real reasons for war, the oil reserves of iraq are worth:

3,600,000,000,000 dollars or the equivalent of 360,000,000,000 barrels of oil. What are you talkin about?

How many times a week do you get cooter?

HAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by The Ensanity
What are you talkin about?

How many times a week do you get cooter?


well that info is not made up by me its by the state department of the USA.

cooter?

yeah

was bedeutet cooter herr gman? or what the hell does cooter mean please explain.

You don't know what cooter means? You know. just think for a sec.

Go to my cooter config thread Pedo.

¿Pedo? esos son los que te saco bb. I ll check your thread.

http://www.linkydinky.com/images/oil.jpg

Originally posted by Piedra
¿Pedo? esos son los que te saco bb. I ll check your thread.

Muy chistoso cunado!

Originally posted by Piedra
http://www.linkydinky.com/images/oil.jpg

Best post yet on this thread.

- The Jake

cooter?

Originally posted by Blue Bulldogge
cooter? they dont respect the cooter

RESPECT THE COOTER! Give it a $1!

actually...jake.,..that is pretty funny....

Originally posted by The Jake
And yet, it's worth almost the identical amount as the US dollar! *gasp!*

- The Jake


the old US greenback has been consistent to say the least. the euro has been all over the place and lacked any stability, which is needed to be a good currency.

Originally posted by The Jake
Wow I didn't realise hillbilly hicks had internet access to the forum as well!

Yeah you tell them Laura!

**** what the rest of the world thinks! **** everyone else! I don't give a **** unless it affects me!

I suppose you don't give a **** about greenhouse emissions, the erosion of our ozone, rising water levels due to the melting of the polar icecaps, world famine, etc, either do you?

- The Jake



WTF

** puffs cigarette **

"next thing your going to tell me is that cigarettes cause cancer"

Originally posted by gman
Excuse me they have complied with guild lines according to U.N. inspectors.

did you see any of the guidelines set. 1441 was very clear on what they had to do and they didn't comply

Originally posted by gman
I would perfer if they were no nuclear or bio weapons at all but the fact is their here and for your great peacefull nation such as U.S. I don't see yourselfs in a big hurry to disarm.

That is very silly. You have to fight force with force and holding the trump card is the best option.

cooter this week?

4 times

ugh

Nah Iraq failed to comply. That much most people are in agreement in.

Everyone just disagrees on how to go about rectifying it.

That said, the UN didn't authorise the use of force either.

- The Jake

No you're right jake, but they didn't authorize saddam to harbor, train and finance terrrorists either. Neither did they authorize his invasion of Kuwait in 1991. They all ****ed up by leaving him in power, now they will pay for their decision with upheaval and bad blood between countries who were previously freindly to each other. It sucks, war sucks, Bush sucks, Saddam sucks, I only wish my wife sucked more.

I'll be honest, I honestly don't know who I trust more -- Bush or Saddam. They both hijacked their last electrions....

- The Jake

Careful Jake, once ig0r reads this he'll go all republican ape****. But you know that is his right as an american, just as it was Zeb Bush's right to spearhead his states(Florida) election process and recounting.

Hey The Jake, I come from Cuba and I know A commie when I see one.

Get your fat, bodybuilding wanna be ass outta here!!

here it comes

Originally posted by The Jake
Nah Iraq failed to comply. That much most people are in agreement in.

Everyone just disagrees on how to go about rectifying it.

That said, the UN didn't authorise the use of force either.

- The Jake


12 years of bull****!!!!!!

american's have spent billions to keep him from killing his own people. Yeah he's a great guy. He's a threat to his own people what does america mean to him. **** that what should we do want to get killed. **** that.


the city of deerborne michigan and michigan in general has the largest middle eastern population outside the middle east. I went to college with several people from the middle east. I guy in a non-western world class was from Iraq. When he left his father was executed in front of his mother and younger brother. Iraq-americans are very vocal about wanting us to go and liberate Iraq form the ****ty dictator.

and BAM it starts

Originally posted by amunra
Careful Jake, once ig0r reads this he'll go all republican ape****. But you know that is his right as an american, just as it was Zeb Bush's right to spearhead his states(Florida) election process and recounting.



I'll be honest, I honestly don't know who I trust more -- Bush or Saddam. They both hijacked their last electrions....


OK here i go ape**** on his ass!!!!!!!!!!


Jake you know **** about america.


In america we have a thing called the electoral vote.
BUSH WON THE ELECTION

Originally posted by amunra
No you're right jake, but they didn't authorize saddam to harbor, train and finance terrrorists either. Neither did they authorize his invasion of Kuwait in 1991. They all ****ed up by leaving him in power, now they will pay for their decision with upheaval and bad blood between countries who were previously freindly to each other. It sucks, war sucks, Bush sucks, Saddam sucks, I only wish my wife sucked more.




Amunra now seem's to be keeping up with politics, good job.



THIS ONE FOR THE JAKE



Which conspiracy theory are you buying into now.

that **** you posted yesterday

the euro ****
the oil ****
revenge
bush=hitler
hiding the problems with the economy
that the CIA hijacked the planes and flew them into the WTC
the one that a medical doctor wrote in the USA today about the war being over the pharma industry
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc


which one do you buy into this week.

Igoreye

The fact this is my thread just means that I'm right by default so give up.

- The Jake

Originally posted by ig0r1eye
12 years of bull****!!!!!!

american's have spent billions to keep him from killing his own people. Yeah he's a great guy. He's a threat to his own people what does america mean to him. **** that what should we do want to get killed. **** that.


the city of deerborne michigan and michigan in general has the largest middle eastern population outside the middle east. I went to college with several people from the middle east. I guy in a non-western world class was from Iraq. When he left his father was executed in front of his mother and younger brother. Iraq-americans are very vocal about wanting us to go and liberate Iraq form the ****ty dictator.

Mate believe me when I say I hear you - I really do - but do you really believe that the end justifies the means?

Failing that, look at it like this: do you really think Bush is being so altruistic that he's acting out of the best interests of the Iraqi people?

The man has already changed his stance like at least three times! At first it was about combating terrorism. Then it was about Iraq lying about their weaponry. Now it's about "liberating" the Iraqi people.

I'm not saying that Saddam is a nice guy. I'm just saying that the fact he's a cunt isn't reason enough to justify the bombing out of a country. Furthermore I don't believe Bush gives a **** about the Iraqi people.

Think about it for a second.

If I'm so anti American as you think I am, if I was really looking at moving to America, do you really think I'd be moving to a country I felt that strongly against?

- The Jake

keep your ass where you're at...

jake i like u but all ur liberal ***** ass bull**** is so ****ing wrong
Go with the facts- Saddam is an evil dictator who supports terrorism and makes weapons he is not supposed to have. He is a murderer who opresses his people. We are going to kill him (I think hes already dead), and free the iraqi people from from thier oppresive government and give them rights. We are giving them a chance to live in freedom. I dont give a **** about any alterior motive bull****, we are liberating these people. And anyone who doesnt think we should be doing this should go live under the rule of saddam huissen and his regime.

Yes sure you're going to free their people and all that ****. But would you be freeing them if they didn't have oil. Thier are more people that don't have freedom in the world. Are you goin to free them?

i dont give a ****. We are freeing them thats all that matters to me.

i think we should go after other nations who oppress thier people. I want that libyian piece of **** kaffi to die.

When is iraq going to start using these chemical weapons?

i doubt they will, because if they do the rest of the world will side with the coallition against them
They have been using scud missles, which they are not supposed to have

i hope they all are shot dead and totured

Originally posted by Laura
keep your ass where you're at...


STFU you stupid cunt!!!! :fu: Your just talking out of your ass.

You know it's nice to have ppl from other places speak their mind on this subject.

So thanks gman and my Jake for your $0.02


Ps. in the end I really don't think it's about the oil..

listen...don't call me a cunt because you're pissed that your boyfriend can't get his paperwork done to come here...why don't you take your self over there...it's about the oil? that's the dumbest ****in' **** I've heard...yep...you definately need to head down under...

Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhaa hahahahahaahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahhahaahahahahaha @ people who believe this is not about oil

Originally posted by Laura
listen...don't call me a cunt because you're pissed that your boyfriend can't get his paperwork done to come here...why don't you take your self over there...it's about the oil? that's the dumbest ****in' **** I've heard...yep...you definately need to head down under...

Saddam has been killing people for the how long now and you never went to attack them then?

Too bad he couldn't take Laura out to cleanse the gene pool... hahaha

- The Jake

Dont be mad that she's funnier than you, mate.

Love the way Austranada was representin there guys. Good work. Way to back each other up.

Originally posted by Allison
Dont be mad that she's funnier than you, mate.

Don't be talking aussie. Your not man enough.

Originally posted by Laura
listen...don't call me a cunt because you're pissed that your boyfriend can't get his paperwork done to come here...why don't you take your self over there...it's about the oil? that's the dumbest ****in' **** I've heard...yep...you definately need to head down under...


Look you piece of trash. If you ever read the forums you'd know that we're MARRIED for one thing.


AND IT'S SOOOOOOOO ****ING NOT ABOUT THE OIL.:fu:

I want some oil

Am I the only one that thinks korea is more of a threat to america. I guess they had to make a chocie korea of iraq. I know a way to pick. The one with the second largest oil supply in the world is the one who should attack.

Originally posted by Laura
listen...don't call me a cunt because you're pissed that your boyfriend can't get his paperwork done to come here...why don't you take your self over there...it's about the oil? that's the dumbest ****in' **** I've heard...yep...you definately need to head down under...

Laura IMO jake is the one that has come up with more facts then anybody in this thread.

Originally posted by Allison
Dont be mad that she's funnier than you, mate.

I hate you.

I rule.

- The Jake

Well lets just hope right now that the job gets finshed this time and that we get a new government in there.

What I hope is that the governments doing this really do know what they're doing and that they've chosen to keep us in the dark about it.

Only problem we have then is that we're putting blind faith in our government that they're doing the right thing, which is inherently dangerous.

It's certainly not democracy.... (at least not in Australia).

- The Jake

Originally posted by The Jake
What I hope is that the governments doing this really do know what they're doing and that they've chosen to keep us in the dark about it.



We all know this is not true Jake. Like come on, the Americans are running the show. They don't exactly have the best record at installing governments. I won't cite example because I know that you know them anyway. Worse is that Bush is in charge.....I don't know what to say about that.....could a worse person be picked for the job???? I'd have a hard time finding one. Like you said, you only hope that they know what they are doing, but the hope I put into that happening is about the same hope I would place into the possibility of Cuba winning a gold medal in hockey in the next Olympics.

I'm pretty sure they will in put a democarcy. It's the U.S. main goal to bring the middle east into democracy. Those who think it is all about oil are wrong. Iraq was attacked to make sure that a supply of oil was in place. After iraq it north korea then maybe iran and etc. The war was planed before sept 11. all the way back to 1992 by alot of bush's current staff who use to work for his dad. Afganastand was attack frist to save face in the world's eye. If they could have they would have attacked iraq first. The idea of imposed democracy really doesn't seem like democracy to me. But I hope the Iraci people like it because their getting it.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/dictators.html
Just read.

I just love how the U.S. gave support to saddam when he was at war with Iran and say he was killing people. But it was the information that you gave him. I also like how the U.S. didn't stop saddam from stoping the uprising in iraq after the gulf war. Knowing history is fun.

Living in a country where you learn world history rather than US history is great fun

I never took US history. I didn't want too.

Originally posted by The Jake
Mate believe me when I say I hear you - I really do - but do you really believe that the end justifies the means?

Failing that, look at it like this: do you really think Bush is being so altruistic that he's acting out of the best interests of the Iraqi people?

The man has already changed his stance like at least three times! At first it was about combating terrorism. Then it was about Iraq lying about their weaponry. Now it's about "liberating" the Iraqi people.

I'm not saying that Saddam is a nice guy. I'm just saying that the fact he's a cunt isn't reason enough to justify the bombing out of a country. Furthermore I don't believe Bush gives a **** about the Iraqi people.

Think about it for a second.

If I'm so anti American as you think I am, if I was really looking at moving to America, do you really think I'd be moving to a country I felt that strongly against?

- The Jake

the fight on terror and the Iraqi weapons programs go hand in hand.

as for the liberation of Iraq, sure thats not Bush's, mine or the american people main concern. But **** it while we're there lets do the right thing and help out.

It has been totally obvious that the Iraqi military/government doesn't care about people.

It's ****ed up and we'll end up helping millions of people live in peace again.



please let me know where you intend to move. I sure can give you pointer if you need any.

Originally posted by gman
Yes sure you're going to free their people and all that ****. But would you be freeing them if they didn't have oil. Thier are more people that don't have freedom in the world. Are you goin to free them?


WTF, do you believe the **** you talk.

I won't bother naming the countries we have helped over the years, (wether in humanitarain aid, taking out a dictator, etc.) the list would be to and would take toooooooo long to type or read.

Originally posted by gman
Saddam has been killing people for the how long now and you never went to attack them then?







So, lets stand back and let it continue. WTF you talk such bull****. It's time to do the right thing. We're going to do the right thing. We're currently doing the right thing.

plus they have the OIL

Originally posted by gman
Am I the only one that thinks korea is more of a threat to america. I guess they had to make a chocie korea of iraq. I know a way to pick. The one with the second largest oil supply in the world is the one who should attack.



AND BAM THE LIBERAL BULL**** ABOUT KOREA POPS ITS UGLY HEAD

OK here is the reason, 12 years of resolutions, including one the UN made recently (1441). Korea has many options before action is needed. We haven't exhausted diplomatic means with Korea. We are working with China and Russia to help resolve the problem. Lately things have gotten better, tentions on the korean pen. have lowered and Japan has been able to get more involve with the diplomacy.

But, **** it.

gman thinks we should attack them first.

good thinking

**BREAKING NEWS STORY** Cuba just took the gold medal in hockey!!!!

Originally posted by ig0r1eye


please let me know where you intend to move. I sure can give you pointer if you need any.


Hmm I think I have that one covered, but thanks anyway. :)

I don't give a rat's ass if you're married or not...that doesn't mean it's okay to be a BEHOTCH!!! bwahahaha at gettin' pissed because someone disagrees with your man....pathetic!!!

Everyone in this thread is lame.

Go play xbox or something.

Look that's Mrs. ***** to you hon. I could really care less if you disagree with what he says. But putting down the true facts he's put in this thread, well that's just dumb.

Originally posted by Blake
Everyone in this thread is lame.

Go play xbox or something.


Hey you posted in here too, what does that say? hmmm


and I don't have xbox i have a ps1:devil

Originally posted by Blake
Everyone in this thread is lame.

Go play xbox or something.


what's an xbox?

Oh I am lame too.

I don't have an xbox but I do have an Atari 2600. 'Combat" ****ing rules.

I'm not putting down any of the facts that he's posted...just posting an opposing view....I believe it's called "debate"... :)

Originally posted by Laura
I'm not putting down any of the facts that he's posted...just posting an opposing view....I believe it's called "debate"... :)

http://www.rit.edu/~bxw3064/wtfrumsfeld.jpg
http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/eat****whore.jpg

I dunno these just seemed funny.

http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/deargod_stop.jpg
http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/gay/***otry.jpg


Face it lady

you've been ****ing...

http://members.optushome.com.au/thejake/owned.jpg
http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/owned/ownedmickey.jpg
http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/owned/own3d.jpg

- The Jake

who got owned? u?

Is that money jacking off? That's kind of how I always pictured him...That mayo face is still funny as ****!

Jake should have ended it with that one.

bwahahaha!!! jake...really...I didn't get owned...especially by your lame ass...and, if you think you did own me...you're really pathetic...you had some different points...but it was far from anything spectacular...so, when you come up with something truly outstanding...let me know....bwhahahaha!

Those who have been owned never think they were.

I own a pencil

The force's strong in this one.

Originally posted by gman
Those who have been owned never think they were.

Hahahahah this made me laugh really hard for some reason!

- The Jake

coz you both are come from gay agricultures.

****.

Originally posted by Dogg^x0
coz you both are come from gay agricultures.

****.

I think you meant CULTURES you illiterate munchkin. :lol2:

- The Jake

same thing dumbass. glad you are thinking and catching my mistakes... i dont know where i would be w/out you.
just take off the "agri" ****er.

you are cool.

no.

Originally posted by Dogg^x0
same thing dumbass. glad you are thinking and catching my mistakes... i dont know where i would be w/out you.
just take off the "agri" ****er.

you are cool.

no.

Since I'm rendering services in correcting your mistakes I just thought I'd point out that no at the end there.... generally you would leave that out as it's bad grammar. That, and the fact that we all know I am cool.

Yes, I rock!

- The Jake

back to the war!

**** talking about the war, let's talk about female poopers!!!!!!!!

always ends up on the pooper subject with you.

War is ghey.

must be why all those limp wristed canadians try to avoid it.