View Full Version : Joe Cortez could have chosen to count in english...


chito
10-20-2004, 04:56 AM
Why did he choose to count the marquez-pacquiao fight in spanish? There are complaints especially from the pro-pacquiao fans that cortez' counts were a little bit slow than usual. Well, i agree because he chose spanish.. uno, dos, tres, quatro (and if you compare it with english, one, two, three, four - that's just one syllable word each as compared to two-syllable spanish words, uno, dos, tres, quatro!)

I'm just wondering is there an official rule in choosing a language for counting a boxing match? And pacquiao is a filipino, although he understand it quite fully because it's just a count, this is not the point i am raising, i mean why not count in english because this is the standard language use all over the world? Is it because marquez speaks in spanish and he's the one being count? If pacquiao was the one being knocked down, would the referee count it in english? Well, just for a point of clarification, anyone?

THRILLAinmanila
10-20-2004, 04:59 AM
Why did he choose to count the marquez-pacquiao fight in spanish? There are complaints especially from the pro-pacquiao fans that cortez' counts were a little bit slow than usual. Well, i agree because he chose spanish.. uno, dos, tres, quatro (and if you compare it with english, one, two, three, four - that's just one syllable word each as compared to two-syllable spanish words, uno, dos, tres, quatro!)

I'm just wondering is there an official rule in choosing a language for counting a boxing match? And pacquiao is a filipino, although he understand it quite fully because it's just a count, this is not the point i am raising, i mean why not count in english because this is the standard language use all over the world? Is it because marquez speaks in spanish and he's the one being count? If pacquiao was the one being knocked down, would the referee count it in english? Well, just for a point of clarification, anyone?


U-no (longer than saying "one), quatro (longer than saying "four"), get the gist ? Senile referee should be
retiring already....

Sir_Jose
10-20-2004, 06:10 AM
are you kidding me with this ****?

I have never laughed harder reading a thread. Let me get this straight, are you people actually trying to tell me it took him longer because he counted in spanish?

THRILLAinmanila
10-20-2004, 06:17 AM
are you kidding me with this ****?

I have never laughed harder reading a thread. Let me get this straight, are you people actually trying to tell me it took him longer because he counted in spanish?

C'mon man ! Get a grip on yourself !! We're just trying to have some fun here ! We all know JMM got up before 10 ok? Lighten up dude !! :D

chito
10-20-2004, 07:34 AM
are you kidding me with this ****?

I have never laughed harder reading a thread. Let me get this straight, are you people actually trying to tell me it took him longer because he counted in spanish?

ok laugh some more, you try counting uno, dos, tres, quatro... after that, try to count in english this time! and time the count... which is faster? i know, this is a silly argument to make but my only question is why didn't he choose to count in english instead? if you are on a witness stand, you will be charged in contempt by the court because you didn't answer the question as it is!

elveiel
10-20-2004, 08:34 AM
I dont think it matters what language you count in, if Marquez speaks spanish wouldnt it be unfair to count in english!?!?

if you wanna see cheating watch the Tyson vs Williams fight because the ref didnt start counting until he had walk Williams to a corner and walked back!! about 5 seconds after he dropped first dropped him!!

MannyPac should have hit him harder if he didnt want him to beat the count!! ;)

PRboxingfan
10-20-2004, 10:23 AM
So, Russian fighters would have the biggest advantage because it's like, onski, twoski, threeski? LOL

mic573
10-20-2004, 10:35 AM
It's not uncommon in fact it happens most if not all the time for a referee to count in spanish to a only spanish speaking fighter. Smoger counted in spanish to Mayorga when he was knocked down and I believe he counted in spanish to Tito when he was knocked down.

ejk22
10-20-2004, 10:59 AM
Why did he choose to count the marquez-pacquiao fight in spanish? There are complaints especially from the pro-pacquiao fans that cortez' counts were a little bit slow than usual. Well, i agree because he chose spanish.. uno, dos, tres, quatro (and if you compare it with english, one, two, three, four - that's just one syllable word each as compared to two-syllable spanish words, uno, dos, tres, quatro!)

I'm just wondering is there an official rule in choosing a language for counting a boxing match? And pacquiao is a filipino, although he understand it quite fully because it's just a count, this is not the point i am raising, i mean why not count in english because this is the standard language use all over the world? Is it because marquez speaks in spanish and he's the one being count? If pacquiao was the one being knocked down, would the referee count it in english? Well, just for a point of clarification, anyone?That **** Joe Cortez is the biggest pro-spanish referee. He has cost fighters many times by helping out the spanish boxer. He saved Ruiz's ass by allowing him to use his bull**** tactics and also called a low blow in the Holy vs Ruiz fight when it was apparent that a low blow was not thrown. He is a piece of **** and he needs to be investigated.

tracylee
10-20-2004, 11:15 AM
are you kidding me with this ****?

I have never laughed harder reading a thread. Let me get this straight, are you people actually trying to tell me it took him longer because he counted in spanish?

i'm with you on this one Jose! When all else failed (tight socks, etc...) now it's BACK to this? Worse than Klit fans....who would have thought! :rolleyes:

jabsRstiff
10-20-2004, 11:21 AM
i'm with you on this one Jose! When all else failed (tight socks, etc...) now it's BACK to this? Worse than Klit fans....who would have thought! :rolleyes:

These Pac fans are ALMOST as bad as the Wlad Klit jockers.

Their saving grace is that Manny is a super-exciting, excellent fighter....& a winner.

JOM'S
10-20-2004, 01:08 PM
tracylee & jabsRstiff, I am an avid PacFan, I don't know if I am worse than a Klitfan, but thats what I am and for me next time Manny & JMM meet the judges won't be needed and the referee can count anyway he wants.....

tracylee
10-20-2004, 01:13 PM
tracylee & jabsRstiff, I am an avid PacFan, I don't know if I am worse than a Klitfan, but thats what I am and for me next time Manny & JMM meet the judges won't be needed and the referee can count anyway he wants.....

You may be right, considering that Marquez isnt exactly a knockout puncher. He will most likely outbox Manny again, so the judges will need to be there, but as far as the 'count' I dont think it will come into play either.

jabsRstiff
10-20-2004, 01:14 PM
tracylee & jabsRstiff, I am an avid PacFan, I don't know if I am worse than a Klitfan, but thats what I am and for me next time Manny & JMM meet the judges won't be needed and the referee can count anyway he wants.....


If the ref chooses to count backwards, you Filipinos are gonna have a ****-fit !
ha-ha !

mic573
10-20-2004, 01:28 PM
Manny will most likely not knockout Marquez in a rematch. He had his chance after knocking Marquez down three times but he couldn't do it. I expect Marquez will fight alot smarter the second time around and try and avoid the straight left that got him in the first round.

JOM'S
10-20-2004, 01:31 PM
traceylee & jabsRstiff, LOL, he he he, I did not meant it that way, judges WILL NOT BE needed coz it will end by KO and the ref can count in chinese or arabic for all i care, someone is going to sleep come Pac-JMM II...

JOM'S
10-20-2004, 01:34 PM
mic573, just wait for the rematch and you will see Manny KO JMM, but if JMM prove me wrong it will be an ugly UD for JMM....

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-20-2004, 02:00 PM
i'm with you on this one Jose! When all else failed (tight socks, etc...) now it's BACK to this? Worse than Klit fans....who would have thought! :rolleyes:

Indeed. :rolleyes:

abdiel2k3
10-20-2004, 02:09 PM
had they not brought up the JMM-Pac fight
this would have been a legitimet question
which i still think it is
if u think about it does amke sense at first
but it all depends on how fast he says the word
i can say mississippi real fast in one sec
or i can pronouce it perfectly and enunciate and itll be longer thena second
reason he counted in spanish is becuz its JMM native lan he had the luxury of haveing a ref dat spoke spanish
unfortuanlty had manny gone done he wouldnt have been able to count in filipino for him
but if the ref spoke on eng and filipino in dat fight
and manny went down
id have no prob with him counting in filipino for manny and countin in eng for JMM
bottom line syllables dontmean ****
what matters is hwo fast he says it
and usually they time themselves i mean its not the first knockdown hes ever counted

m00ks
10-20-2004, 02:40 PM
ok laugh some more, you try counting uno, dos, tres, quatro... after that, try to count in english this time! and time the count... which is faster? i know, this is a silly argument to make but my only question is why didn't he choose to count in english instead? if you are on a witness stand, you will be charged in contempt by the court because you didn't answer the question as it is!

Don't take offense chito from jose, he loves to criticize and complain about threads that doesn't meet his standards :rolleyes: But I have to agree with you, the count in spanish is slower than normal, although we're talking about what 1-2 realtime seconds delay. TECHNICALLY, It would have been fair to count in english, but if Marquez got up, I'd givem him that delay just cuz he deserved it.

m00ks
10-20-2004, 02:45 PM
It's gettig annoying when people criticize a damn thread when it starts. If you people have no arguments to give and can only criticize the threads because you think its "stupid", "irrelevant" or "chicken gay! (lol)" then daym people, STAY AWAY FROM THEM. Simple as 1-2-3.

jabsRstiff
10-20-2004, 02:47 PM
But....it is a stupid topic.

I know, you Pac fans are running out of things to talk about....& you need something. But, this is bad.

abdiel2k3
10-20-2004, 02:47 PM
It's gettig annoying when people criticize a damn thread when it starts. If you people have no arguments to give and can only criticize the threads because you think its "stupid", "irrelevant" or "chicken gay! (lol)" then daym people, STAY AWAY FROM THEM. Simple as 1-2-3.

chicken gay
ill laugh at that til the day i die

simple as 1-2-3?
wh\ould it be fair to say
simple como uno-dos-tres?
2 extra syllables in their

Sir_Jose
10-20-2004, 02:51 PM
It's gettig annoying when people criticize a damn thread when it starts. If you people have no arguments to give and can only criticize the threads because you think its "stupid", "irrelevant" or "chicken gay! (lol)" then daym people, STAY AWAY FROM THEM. Simple as 1-2-3.


It also gets anoying when rabid fans spam the board with stupid ass topics.

m00ks
10-20-2004, 02:53 PM
But....it is a stupid topic.

I know, you Pac fans are running out of things to talk about....& you need something. But, this is bad.

Dude I'm just saying man that's a matter of opinion, I find a lot of stupid topics and threads, so I CHOOSE not to go in them. So if you think it's stupid and phatetic that we are running out of things to talk about well good for you. Honestly, I don't give a rats ass. I'd debate about other topics too but I'll always enjoy a Pacman thread, because I'm a fan. Damn jab, you're a smart guy, I could have sworn you would have undertood that...

m00ks
10-20-2004, 02:56 PM
It also gets anoying when rabid fans spam the board with stupid ass topics.

lol spam? If 1-2 threads is spamming for you man, then you gotta work on yer patience. Dr. Cyn was spamming, like it's so hard to understand that there are people that enjoy talking about Pac fights. Public Forum man, get oevr it. We had a Planet Pacquiao section in the previous one, so if you're so damn annoyed with all this "spamming" then why don't you make a suggestion to Rick about putting the same section back up. Just chill...

m00ks
10-20-2004, 02:57 PM
chicken gay
ill laugh at that til the day i die

simple as 1-2-3?
wh\ould it be fair to say
simple como uno-dos-tres?
2 extra syllables in their

No man, ENGLISH!!!

Sir_Jose
10-20-2004, 03:01 PM
lol spam? If 1-2 threads is spamming for you man, then you gotta work on yer patience. Dr. Cyn was spamming, like it's so hard to understand that there are people that enjoy talking about Pac fights. Public Forum man, get oevr it. We had a Planet Pacquiao section in the previous one, so if you're so damn annoyed with all this "spamming" then why don't you make a suggestion to Rick about putting the same section back up. Just chill...


Oh right cause we have only had 1 or 2 threads about Pac and excuses, Pac and Mexican...etc.

Like its so hard to understand that there are people who enjoy making fun of rabid Pac fans. Just chill

m00ks
10-20-2004, 03:12 PM
Oh right cause we have only had 1 or 2 threads about Pac and excuses, Pac and Mexican...etc.

Like its so hard to understand that there are people who enjoy making fun of rabid Pac fans. Just chill

We had heated threads in past about Pac-JMM matches, but count, just count how many threads there are in Non-Stop Boxing about Pac or his "excuse" :rolleyes:

Lol make fun, you're just embarassing yourself if that's all you can do and can't even give decent arguments. Blah Blah Blah, complain, complain, complain, if you wanna be like Cynical, by all means be an idiot :D

If you're still *****ing and whining about evo's spamming since he left a couple of months ago then keep crying.

Sir_Jose
10-20-2004, 03:33 PM
We had heated threads in past about Pac-JMM matches, but count, just count how many threads there are in Non-Stop Boxing about Pac or his "excuse" :rolleyes:

Lol make fun, you're just embarassing yourself if that's all you can do and can't even give decent arguments. Blah Blah Blah, complain, complain, complain, if you wanna be like Cynical, by all means be an idiot :D

If you're still *****ing and whining about evo's spamming since he left a couple of months ago then keep crying.

No one is crying about anything. Its pretty obvious im being a smart ass. Your the guy who seems to be taking it a bit to serious killer.

m00ks
10-20-2004, 03:49 PM
No one is crying about anything. Its pretty obvious im being a smart ass. Your the guy who seems to be taking it a bit to serious killer.

Well you're always a smart ass so I can never tell :p

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-20-2004, 05:18 PM
there is a guy at damn ringside that keeps the time in seconds and they go by that, thats usually what they look at when they look. Wether its English spanish or whatever the pacing remains the same.

chito
10-20-2004, 08:46 PM
But....it is a stupid topic.

I know, you Pac fans are running out of things to talk about....& you need something. But, this is bad.


ok i'll watch over you next time, to say that the one i posted is stupid makes you think that the ones you were posting were smarter and have all the substances that are not stupid! ok smart guy, from now on... watch your back!! and make sure you edit your english!

Hurlex
10-20-2004, 09:37 PM
oh god lololol...spanish count slower then a english one..lol (banging on table) :D ..oh thats good.lol..i am with u jose...sour telling me what if he would have counted in filipino (tagalo whatever u call it) the 10 count would have been faster...oh thats come good stuff...maybe when JMM kTFO of him in the rematch they'll count in spanish for pac..just to piss him off..,lol

(ohhh..mooks s gonna be pissed...yeah i said it mook i think JMM can win the rematch)...it will be a good fight either way

THRILLAinmanila
10-20-2004, 11:35 PM
Am sure you boxing fans out there have more than a few words to say about Joe Cortez ..Let's get out of the JMM-Pac fight for now. Maybe you can share other fight facts that makes Cortez retirable ASAP.

chito
10-21-2004, 12:00 AM
ok, i'll end it right here. to jabsrstif, im taking back what i recently said to you, if you think the post is stupid then so be it, i didn't mean it when i said to watch your back this time and the edit your english (sorry). it's your right to say a post is stupid! it's waste of time to counter it anymore and i don't want to be part of that old forums i used to read here, that RACE thing, i don't like it! ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION, that's all i wanted to know why did the referee opted to count it in spanish (maybe he speaks spanish). in some way i got the answers i wanted and that's all that matters! thank you, peace!

Neuraxis
10-21-2004, 12:15 AM
And people whine about the Klitschko fans...

JOM'S
10-21-2004, 02:23 AM
I am a die hard PacFan and I will give a Klit Fan a run for his money, LOL, he he he, this thread ended up being funny & amusing but Chito got his answers and thats good for him.....

And One More Good News is, we will see Pac-Dinamita II early next year....

jabsRstiff
10-21-2004, 09:46 AM
I was not going to comment any further on this absurd topic/thread.
But, it's now creeped it's way onto the front page, & has even more insidious overtures to it.

It's a bull**** topic, with a bull**** allegation.

All because mother****ers can't stop talking about Manny Pacquiao.


I like Pacquiao, quite a bit.....but if you Pac fans persist, I may just root for him to get annihilated.

tracylee
10-21-2004, 11:39 AM
And people whine about the Klitschko fans...

Actually, if you'll go back a few pages, you'll see that both were compared to each other and the difference was minimal. Oddly enough, I dont think it was ever decided who was worse. :D

Anyway, like him or not, Joe Cortez has been a respected ref. for many years and although I may not like him not 'helping' my guy out with a faster count or by taking points away for fouls (and there have been a few times that I wish he had done both...him and most of the other ref's at one point or another) that doesnt take away the fact that he IS a good ref. and isnt likely to retire any time soon.

The next time he officiates a fight that one of your favorites is in, thing's could go the other way and you may then decide that hes not so bad after all. You cant hold one call or one fight against an entire career.
Have you ever watched a fight with a favorite in it and the ref. NOT piss you off somehow, someway at some point? I havent, but if I let that persuade me that he's no good at his job I'd hate most of the ref's out there!

mic573
10-21-2004, 12:08 PM
Cortez was a good ref at one point but is starting to slip a little. He has missed alot of calls over the pass few years.

tracylee
10-21-2004, 12:15 PM
Cortez was a good ref at one point but is starting to slip a little. He has missed alot of calls over the pass few years.

Agreed! No 'one man' can see it all...literally. I have wondered if having 2 ref's in a fight , one to watch each boxer, would help or hurt any.....I know the ring is only so big, etc...but another view might help with 'missing' some of those fouls, etc..?? It's just a thought; maybe even a bad one. :o And of course such a thing will never happen. :rolleyes: I probably sound stupid for even thinking such a thing; that's why I said it was 'just a thought' :)

mic573
10-21-2004, 12:20 PM
Two referees is something that for sure won't happen at all. Hell one ref is too much sometimes when the fighters actually want to fight and he keeps wanting to show his face every five seconds or so.

Sweet Dick Willy
10-21-2004, 12:37 PM
are you kidding me with this ****?

I have never laughed harder reading a thread. Let me get this straight, are you people actually trying to tell me it took him longer because he counted in spanish?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

This is pathetic. What if he had counted in German? As long as the fighter gets up before the count of 10 is all that matters.

Cortez is PUERTO RICAN you dumb cunts. He's not Mexican. If anything, he would've been pulling for Manny!

But fight fans over analyze the actions of refs too much and always make up some consipracy theory. Marquez got up and all the credit to him. Most refs would've stopped the fight after 3 knockdowns even though there was no 3 knockdown rule in effect. Credit Cortez for seeing Marquez's head was clear enough to defend himself.

I still thought Manny won by 3 points. But quit your *****ing and blaming Cortez somehow. Losers!

tracylee
10-21-2004, 01:02 PM
Two referees is something that for sure won't happen at all. Hell one ref is too much sometimes when the fighters actually want to fight and he keeps wanting to show his face every five seconds or so.

Thats what I meant when I said it would never happen. There is just so much that the ref cant possibly see that somebody is always getting a bit screwed sometimes. I hate it when a fighter get's penalized for a low blow that really didnt even look low, and then the other fighter hit's him low enough to make him sterile and the ref. doesnt even see it let alone penalize him for it. That sucks!! :eek:

JOM'S
10-21-2004, 01:33 PM
Sweet Dick Willy, you hit it on the button when you said "But fight fans over analyze the actions of refs too much and always make up some consipracy theory", I totally agree with you, you Fat Assed with a little willy....

lapulapu
10-21-2004, 02:14 PM
That **** Joe Cortez is the biggest pro-spanish referee. He has cost fighters many times by helping out the spanish boxer. He saved Ruiz's ass by allowing him to use his bull**** tactics and also called a low blow in the Holy vs Ruiz fight when it was apparent that a low blow was not thrown. He is a piece of **** and he needs to be investigated.


Forget this idiot referee. Pacquiao can do better. He just need to put Marquez to sleep for an hour. Now the referee can count up to 100 if he likes.

m00ks
10-21-2004, 03:54 PM
oh god lololol...spanish count slower then a english one..lol (banging on table) :D ..oh thats good.lol..i am with u jose...sour telling me what if he would have counted in filipino (tagalo whatever u call it) the 10 count would have been faster...oh thats come good stuff...maybe when JMM kTFO of him in the rematch they'll count in spanish for pac..just to piss him off..,lol

(ohhh..mooks s gonna be pissed...yeah i said it mook i think JMM can win the rematch)...it will be a good fight either way


lol actually in filipino it would have been a lot longer, minimum 2-3 syllables each number.

lol yeah I am pissed :cool: . JMM can't KTFO Pac if his life depended on it! I ain't saying he can't win, I'm just saying he won't. A good beating like MAB for JMM...he earned it :D I wanna hear all that "on-dimensional" crap after JMM gets gutted alive :D .

Neuraxis
10-21-2004, 04:58 PM
Actually, if you'll go back a few pages, you'll see that both were compared to each other and the difference was minimal. Oddly enough, I dont think it was ever decided who was worse. :D

Anyway, like him or not, Joe Cortez has been a respected ref. for many years and although I may not like him not 'helping' my guy out with a faster count or by taking points away for fouls (and there have been a few times that I wish he had done both...him and most of the other ref's at one point or another) that doesnt take away the fact that he IS a good ref. and isnt likely to retire any time soon.

The next time he officiates a fight that one of your favorites is in, thing's could go the other way and you may then decide that hes not so bad after all. You cant hold one call or one fight against an entire career.
Have you ever watched a fight with a favorite in it and the ref. NOT piss you off somehow, someway at some point? I havent, but if I let that persuade me that he's no good at his job I'd hate most of the ref's out there!

The Pacman fans are whining about something that may or may not even add up to being a single second, when Brewter was given an 20 extra seconds to recover from the beating he took in the 4th round.

As for refs, the only bad reffing I've seen is in Wlad v. Brewster, Wlad v. TOS, and Vitali v. Lewis. Other than that, I am pretty sure I approve of reffing for every other fight.

tracylee
10-21-2004, 05:11 PM
The Pacman fans are whining about something that may or may not even add up to being a single second, when Brewter was given an 20 extra seconds to recover from the beating he took in the 4th round.

As for refs, the only bad reffing I've seen is in Wlad v. Brewster, Wlad v. TOS, and Vitali v. Lewis. Other than that, I am pretty sure I approve of reffing for every other fight.

LMAO!!!!!!! I'm not surprised that you see a difference in what you do and what some other fans do..not at all. That is called splitting hairs ;)
I'm even less surprised that the ONLY time you disagreed with any ref. was in a Klit fight; IMAGINE that! :D OUt of curiousity, do you watch ANY other boxing besides the Klit bro's? Just going by the list you gave of bad officiating.

As for you being different cause theyre complaining about seconds, and excuse is an excuse, and your Klit boy's are loaded with them

Neuraxis
10-21-2004, 05:13 PM
LMAO!!!!!!! I'm not surprised that you see a difference in what you do and what some other fans do..not at all. That is called splitting hairs ;)
I'm even less surprised that the ONLY time you disagreed with any ref. was in a Klit fight; IMAGINE that! :D

As for you being different cause theyre complaining about seconds, and excuse is an excuse, and your Klit boy's are loaded with them

No no no, I thought you asked what Klit fights I disagreed with the ref. There are countless other fights with bad reffing.

dansweeney
10-21-2004, 05:34 PM
Cortez is fair, why do you think hopkins let him ref his fights? after he talked to cortez face to face he agreed that he felt joe is a fair ref, he is pretty consistant when i watch him

tracylee
10-21-2004, 06:05 PM
Cortez is fair, why do you think hopkins let him ref his fights? after he talked to cortez face to face he agreed that he felt joe is a fair ref, he is pretty consistant when i watch him

There have been so many times that I've wanted to choke both him and Nady and many others, but most of the time once I get over the 'incident' that I didnt much like I have to admit that they cant possibly see everything, and they're still good ref's. None of them are always gonna make the call you want (or I want, for that matter) but all it takes it a couple of 'calls' that go the way you want and you may look at them a little different (not talking about you dan; just to fans in general). He is a good ref. and I like him even when I wanna choke him!

m00ks
10-21-2004, 07:22 PM
Error............

m00ks
10-21-2004, 07:24 PM
I was not going to comment any further on this absurd topic/thread.
But, it's now creeped it's way onto the <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=front%20page" onmouseover="window.status='front page'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">front page</a>, & has even more insidious overtures to it.

It's a bull**** topic, with a bull**** allegation.

All because mother****ers can't stop talking about Manny Pacquiao.


I like Pacquiao, quite a bit.....but if you Pac fans persist, I may just root for him to get annihilated.

don't hold your breath...

chito
10-22-2004, 01:08 AM
I can't understand why some people here never stops using words like ****, MOTHER****ERS, etc., etc.! Can't they get their messages across without it? Like if you're really pissed about this topic, can't you just say it without these highly-offensive words?

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 02:33 AM
I can't understand why some people here never stops using words like ****, MOTHER****ERS, etc., etc.! Can't they get their messages across without it? Like if you're really pissed about this topic, can't you just say it without these highly-offensive words?
Like people who don't like what's on a TV station, turn the channel, slapnuts! Nobody's forcing you to read this forum or participate. Let the door hit you in the ass on the way outta here :eek:

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 02:36 AM
The Pacman fans are whining about something that may or may not even add up to being a single second, when Brewter was given an 20 extra seconds to recover from the beating he took in the 4th round.

As for refs, the only bad reffing I've seen is in Wlad v. Brewster, Wlad v. TOS, and Vitali v. Lewis. Other than that, I am pretty sure I approve of reffing for every other fight.
Oh right. Wlad-Brewster was a horrible ref. The ref is largely responsible for Wlad not being able to take a punch or having bad conditioning. Did the ref in that fight put extra vaseline on his legs too? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOL.

I think it was John Ruiz who said after he got owned by Roy Jones that it was Jay Nady's fault he lost 10 rounds and got his nose broken by a clean punch.

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 02:40 AM
I dont think it matters what language you count in, if Marquez speaks spanish wouldnt it be unfair to count in english!?!?

if you wanna see cheating watch the Tyson vs Williams fight because the ref didnt start counting until he had walk Williams to a corner and walked back!! about 5 seconds after he dropped first dropped him!!

MannyPac should have hit him harder if he didnt want him to beat the count!! ;)
Williams didn't retreat to the neutral corner. If you score a knockdown and dont follow the neutral corner rule, the count stops! Then it picks up again. that's not cheating. its a rule. again, that's NOT CHEATING. does anybody here know the ****ing rules or are there just a bunch of come lately Asian fans who didn't know **** or give a **** about boxing until Manny Pac came out

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 02:44 AM
All this "pro Spanish" referreing **** about Cortez needs to stop. I assume most who say that are Asian or haters of latinos.

All latinos aren't alike. No more than Japs and Viet Cong are alike or have allegiances because they look similar.

That Cortez would side with a Mexican because he's Puerto Rican (one is a carribean/african heritage, the other of mestizo) is insane.

The differences in culture are so vast its ridiculous.

I guess white refs from America are biased to white fighters from Europe if they're fighting a fighter whose non-white. That only would be relevant if that referre had a small mind like the fools who subscribe to such a theory

Jackasses

Neuraxis
10-22-2004, 03:27 AM
Oh right. Wlad-Brewster was a horrible ref. The ref is largely responsible for Wlad not being able to take a punch or having bad conditioning. Did the ref in that fight put extra vaseline on his legs too? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOL.

I think it was John Ruiz who said after he got owned by Roy Jones that it was Jay Nady's fault he lost 10 rounds and got his nose broken by a clean punch.

No it wasn't, but he was most certainly at fault for giving Brewster an extra 20 seconds.

techn9ne
10-22-2004, 03:54 AM
shouldnt there be some type of rule where if you get enough bad karma you get banned because no one likes you?

*scratching head*

THRILLAinmanila
10-22-2004, 04:00 AM
shouldnt there be some type of rule where if you get enough bad karma you get banned because no one likes you?

*scratching head*


interesting suggestion ....

chito
10-22-2004, 05:18 AM
Like people who don't like what's on a TV station, turn the channel, slapnuts! Nobody's forcing you to read this forum or participate. Let the door hit you in the ass on the way outta here :eek:

It's just a suggestion, ok no harm done... just go on with whatever you see is fit and right!

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 03:53 PM
shouldnt there be some type of rule where if you get enough bad karma you get banned because no one likes you?

*scratching head*
I agree. But without me this forum is boring, has no boxing knowledge or personality. Half the people here dont' know crap. I might quit this place. You guys are extremely lame

Remember that not many like Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ or George W. Bush.

Popular opinion is hardly an accurate gauge of judging others. I'm glad I'm not liked by most of you losers.

Panzergirl
10-22-2004, 03:55 PM
I agree. But without me this forum is boring, has no boxing knowledge or personality. Half the people here dont' know crap. I might quit this place. You guys are extremely lame

..you will jog for the master race!

Sweet Dick Willy
10-22-2004, 03:57 PM
..you will jog for the master race!
So what are you some sort of white supremacist?

techn9ne
10-22-2004, 09:20 PM
I agree. But without me this forum is boring, has no boxing knowledge or personality. Half the people here dont' know crap. I might quit this place. You guys are extremely lame

Remember that not many like Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ or George W. Bush.

Popular opinion is hardly an accurate gauge of judging others. I'm glad I'm not liked by most of you losers.

i wasnt necessarily referring to you dick willy...

i was simply laying out it out on the table

tracylee
10-23-2004, 10:44 AM
i wasnt necessarily referring to you dick willy...

i was simply laying out it out on the table

Hell it wasnt boring before him, I'm sure we'll survive just fine without him :rolleyes:

m00ks
10-23-2004, 09:58 PM
I agree. But without me this forum is boring, has no boxing knowledge or personality. Half the people here dont' know crap. I might quit this place. You guys are extremely lame

Remember that not many like Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ or George W. Bush.

Popular opinion is hardly an accurate gauge of judging others. I'm glad I'm not liked by most of you losers.

Dude if you just compared yourself to Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King you should check yourself in. By the way, not a lot of people like Satan or Hitler either :cool:

ispayder
10-23-2004, 10:30 PM
I would'nt mind Cortez counting in Spanish as long as he counts in Tagalog when a Pinoy gets knocked down. (as in isa, dalawa, tatlo...)he he he.