Fantastic four, theres x-men, spider-man, the-hulk, and the daredevil, stan lee is on a roll(if hes makin money of this)

Fantastic four, theres x-men, spider-man, the-hulk, and the daredevil, stan lee is on a roll(if hes makin money of this)


The hulk, and the daredevil movies sucked. X-Men and Spiderman were great. I hope fantastic Four is good. It has my all time favorite villian - Dr. Doom.

This is hit or miss. X-Men people need to get smart and get Mr. Sinister in that *****. He was badass.

http://www.ticon.net/~dan/comix/sin03.gif

Dont forget about The Punisher. That was also Marvel.

I heard they are making a daredevil 2, dont know why, F4 who be coolm they need to put Vemon in spider-man 3

I heard they are making a daredevil 2, dont know why, F4 who be coolm they need to put Vemon in spider-man 3
Yeah, I hope they scrap Affleck but bring back Jennifer Garner. I heard Jessica Alba would be the Invisible Woman in F4. I'd watch it just for her.... lol

I heard they are making a daredevil 2, dont know why, F4 who be coolm they need to put Vemon in spider-man 3

venom or carnige
those fools are bad ass
but spiderman and xmen def best marvel movies
2nd and 3rd only to captain america
lmao that moive sucked

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/558/558239/an-interview-with-the-cast-and-crew-of-ifantastic-fouri-20041019114015746-000.jpg

yup thats jessica alba

Yeah, I hope they scrap Affleck but bring back Jennifer Garner. I heard Jessica Alba would be the Invisible Woman in F4. I'd watch it just for her.... lol

But that would suck if she's invisible!

I heard Garner is coming out with a daredevil spinoff "Electra" very soon. It's gonna suck more than the daredevil.

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/ff_fantastic4_101904_160_1098232500.jpg

a close up of her

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/ff_fantastic4_101904_160_1098232500.jpg

a close up of her
dayymmm... can't wait!

Yeah, I hope they scrap Affleck but bring back Jennifer Garner. I heard Jessica Alba would be the Invisible Woman in F4. I'd watch it just for her.... lol
I don’t know what comic company Blade belongs to, but in Blade Trinity Jessica has a part in it and she looks hott. Fantastic Four, so Jessica might the chic, who plays the other ****ers?

venom or carnige
those fools are bad ass
but spiderman and xmen def best marvel movies
2nd and 3rd only to captain america
lmao that moive sucked
Carnige doesnt have the Venom Fame,Venom is one of spideys best enemy. I think Spider-Man 3 will have Hob-goblin.in part 3 they should have him and venom

they should have The-Hulk vs. The-Thing

I don’t know what comic company Blade belongs to, but in Blade Trinity Jessica has a part in it and she looks hott. Fantastic Four, so Jessica might the chic, who plays the other ****ers?
That's Jessica Biehl bigd... another hottie. I think The Thing is played by Chicless (dunno if I got that spelling right, but it's the bald cop on the TV show "The Badge").
Just read they picked the new Superman too... cool.

The hulk would kick his ass,lol

That's Jessica Biehl bigd... another hottie. I think The Thing is played by Chicless (dunno if I got that spelling right, but it's the bald cop on the TV show "The Badge").
Just read they picked the new Superman too... cool.
I had heard that they were trying to use that guy from Donnie Darko (the guy who was dating Kristen Dustin)for a superman movie :eek:

Dude who's the flamer playing the human torch? I guess flame on really means something now... :D

I think that The Thing is the same dude that played Hellboy...Ron Pearlman. It looks kinda like him at least.

F4 movie I'll surely watch this one, just for Jessica being in the movie, and not to mention that I have a hard on for super hero movies...

Yeah, I hope they scrap Affleck but bring back Jennifer Garner. I heard Jessica Alba would be the Invisible Woman in F4. I'd watch it just for her.... lol

No Daredevil sequel has been announced. Affleck says he won't do action movies anymore. The first one was just a modest hit, anyway. Jennifer Garner's character died in the movie, so she won't be back...but a spin-off "Electra" is in post - production. Imdb.com lists it as going to be released in January 2005. Affleck is in it as Matt Murdock, but no credit listing as Daredevil. Here are some production notes from Imdb Pro, a paysite, that you guys might not otherwise have access to:

Plot Summary
Kirigi and The Order of the Hand send Elektra on a mission to kill the widower Mark Miller -- a man who must pay for an act committed by his grandfather years earlier. Upon being introduced to Miller by his young daughter Abby, however, Elektra aligns herself with him and defends them both from Kirigi's ninja assassins. But is there more to the Millers than meets the eye?

Cast - in credits order STARmeter™

Jennifer Garner ... Elektra Natchios
Goran Visnjic ... Mark Miller

Other credited cast listed alphabetically
Chris Ackerman
Ben Affleck ... Matt Murdock
Nathaniel Arcand ... Ninja #1
Colin Cunningham ... McCabe
Jason Isaacs ... DeMarco
Hiro Kanagawa
Will Yun Lee ... Kirigi
Natassia Malthe ... Typhoid Mary
Jana Mitsoula ... Young Elektra's Mother
Kirsten Prout ... Abby Miller
Terence Stamp ... Stick
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa ... Roshi

Bob Sapp ... Stone(yes that's this Bob Sapp:

Trivia
• Mixed Martial Arts and K1 fighter in Japan.
• Former NFL player for the Chicago Bears in 1997 and then the Minnesota Vikings from 1997-1998.
• Played college football at the University of Washington.
• Won the IWGP World Heavyweight title from Kensuke Sasaki on March 28, 2004 in Tokyo, Japan.
• Lost at K-1: MMA Championship Romanex on 22nd May 2004 to Kazuyuki Fujita.

The Fantastic Four:

Filmmakers: Tim Story - Director, Michael France - Writer (screenplay), Mark Frost - Writer (screenplay), Sam Hamm - Writer, Simon Kinberg - Writer, Jack Kirby - Writer (comic book & characters), Stan Lee - Writer (comic book & characters), Philip Morton - Writer, Michael Barnathan - Producer, Chris Columbus - Producer, Bernd Eichinger - Producer, Ralph Winter - Producer, Oliver Wood - Cinematographer, Deane Ogden - Composer, John Ottman - Composer, Bill Boes - Production Designer

Plot Summary
When an experimental space voyage goes awry, four people are changed by cosmic rays. Reed Richards, inventor and leader of the group gains the ability to stretch his body, and takes the name, Mr. Fantastic. His girlfriend, Sue Storm, gains the ability to turn invisible and create force fields, calling herself the Invisible Woman. Her younger brother Johnny Storm gains the ability to control fire, including covering his own body with flame, becoming the Human Torch. Pilot Ben Grimm is turned into a super-strong rock creature calling himself Thing. Together, they use their unique powers to explore the strange aspects of the world, and to foil the evil plans of Doctor Doom.


Cast - in credits order

Ioan Gruffudd ... Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic

Michael Chiklis ... Ben Grimm/The Thing

Jessica Alba ... Susan Storm/The Invisible Girl

Chris Evans ... Johnny Storm/The Human Torch

Julian McMahon ... Victor Von Doom/Doctor Doom

Kerry Washington ... Alicia Masters

Other credited cast listed alphabetically

Laurie Holden ... Debbie
Hamish Linklater
Maria Menounos

Trivia
Chris Columbus and Peyton Reed were each attached as director at some point.


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Not the first Fantastic Four movie. Another was made in 1994 but never released because unbeknown to the cast and crew, the movie was never intended to be released, and was made only because the studio who owned the rights to make a Fantastic Four movie would have lost the rights if they did not begin production by a certain date.
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Steven Soderbergh and Sean Astin were both interested in directing.
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George Clooney and Brendan Fraser were considered for the part of Reed Richards.
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Paul Walker was considered for the part of Johnny Storm.
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Julia Stiles, Kate Bosworth, Rachel McAdams, Elizabeth Banks and 'Kadee Strickland' were considered for the role of Susan Storm/Invisible Girl.
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Tim Robbins was considered for Dr. Doom
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To get down the speech in preparation for his role as the Thing, Michael Chiklis read to his children wearing the prosthetic teeth that accompany the Thing's costume.
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Cliff Curtis read for a role in the film.

I had heard that they were trying to use that guy from Donnie Darko (the guy who was dating Kristen Dustin)for a superman movie :eek:

Everyone from a digitized Christopher Reeve to Will Smith has been named as potential Supermen. At one point, it was greenlit with Tim Burton as director, a script by Kevin Smith, and starring Nicolas Cage. Smith's script was shelved, then Burton left later.

There has been an announced Superman movie for 2006 with X-Men director Bryan Singer attached. It is a true remake of the 1978 film. Keep in mind there have been numerous announcements for Superman entries since 1987's Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.

Here are the current details.

Status: Announced
Start Date: February 2005
Release Date: June 2006
Locations: Australia more »

Contact: 4000 Warner Blvd.
Burbank, CA 91522-0001 USA
Tel: 818-954-6000

Production Co: Bad Hat Harry Productions more »
Distributor: Warner Bros. more »

Genre: Action / Adventure / Fantasy / Sci-Fi /

Filmmakers: Bryan Singer - Director, Michael Dougherty - Writer (screenplay), Dan Harris - Writer (screenplay), Jon Peters - Producer, Newton Thomas Sigel - Cinematographer, John Ottman - Composer / Editor, Guy Dyas - Production Designer




Trivia
When this project was originally in pre-production in the mid-90's, Nicolas Cage was attached as Superman.


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As of July 2004, Bryan Singer is attached to direct.
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'Kevin Smith' had been hired to write the screenplay at one time, and 'Tim Burton' was also briefly attached to the project.
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While the project was under Brett Ratner's supervision, actors Josh Hartnett, Paul Walker, Matthew Bomer, Brendan Fraser, Ashton Kutcher, David Boreanaz, Ian Somerhalder, Henry Cavill and Jerry O'Connell were considered for the part of Superman.
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Brett Ratner left the project primarily because he and Warner Bros. executives could not agree on who to cast as Superman.
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After Brett Ratner's departure, Charlie's Angels director McG has been slowly trying to get the movie into production.
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Anthony Hopkins was set to play Jor-El of Krypton, but after Ratner left, Hopkins did the same.
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After the success of Charlie's Angels, McG was tipped to direct the film in 2001. He left the project in 2002, went to do Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle, and came back aboard the project in 2004, but left it again after disagreements over budget and filming location. Warner Bros. had wanted to move from New York City to Australia, but McG felt that "it was inappropriate to try to capture the heart of America on another continent."
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Johnny Depp auditioned for the roles of Lex Luthor and Jor-El.
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Early July 2004, McG left this project over budget conflicts with Warner brothers. Actors that McG was screening before his departure include Jason Behr and Jared Padalecki for the role of Superman, Scarlett Johansson for Lois Lane and Shia LaBeouf for Jimmy Olsen.
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Since 1993, when Warner Brothers attempted to restart the franchise Superman, nearly $10 million has been spent on the project.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=493&e=7&u=/ap/20041022/ap_en_mo/film_superman


Little-Known Actor Cast As Superman

Fri Oct 22, 8:01 AM ET Movies - AP



DES MOINES, Iowa - A little-known actor has been cast as Superman in a big-budget film slated for 2006, according to Variety magazine.



Brandon Routh, 25, of Norwalk, has appeared in the soap opera "One Life to Live" and just finished his first feature film, "Deadly."


He attended the University of Iowa and has had guest appearances on the television shows "Cold Case," "Gilmore Girls" and "Will and Grace." He also appeared on the third season of MTV's "Undressed."


Routh's father, Ron Routh, confirmed the Variety report but declined further comment because his son has not signed a contract.


He said he's been told publicity about the movie won't happen until after it's shot. "Their motive is to keep the mystique up," he said.


Christopher Reeve, who made the role of Superman famous, died Oct. 10 after complications from an infection caused by a bed sore. He was 52. Reeve was left a quadriplegic after a May 1995 horse riding accident.

So far, the Blade and X-Men movies have been the best. I hear they are going to make a movie of Ironfist. A really obscure character.

http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/iron_fist.gif

I miss Batman movies...even though that's DC.

The only good Batman movie was the first one in my opinion.

I miss Batman movies...even though that's DC.


Batman Begins comes out next year with Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman in a prequel.

Ironfist isn't obscure, just OLD. Back in the 70's he had his own comic book along with Power Man, a really strong black guy. They were Heroes for Hire. I think that Heroes for Hire was redone in the 90's and added some people, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Sabretooth was an original villain in the Powerman and Ironfist comics. I remember something about a museum heist. Christ that was a LONG time ago.

I think the F4 movie will definitely flop. Jessica Alba is awfully nice to look at, but her acting talent is on a level with Britney Spears.

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/558/558239/an-interview-with-the-cast-and-crew-of-ifantastic-fouri-20041019114015746-000.jpg

yup thats jessica alba

WHo plays thing?

Michael Chiklis

hey, you think invisible woman ever strut around naked? while she's invisible of course.

a marvel movie by penthouse, ah. i have to mail them now..

No Daredevil sequel has been announced. Affleck says he won't do action movies anymore. The first one was just a modest hit, anyway. Jennifer Garner's character died in the movie, so she won't be back...but a spin-off "Electra" is in post - production. Imdb.com lists it as going to be released in January 2005. Affleck is in it as Matt Murdock, but no credit listing as Daredevil. Here are some production notes from Imdb Pro, a paysite, that you guys might not otherwise have access to:

Plot Summary
Kirigi and The Order of the Hand send Elektra on a mission to kill the widower Mark Miller -- a man who must pay for an act committed by his grandfather years earlier. Upon being introduced to Miller by his young daughter Abby, however, Elektra aligns herself with him and defends them both from Kirigi's ninja assassins. But is there more to the Millers than meets the eye?

Cast - in credits order STARmeter™

Jennifer Garner ... Elektra Natchios
Goran Visnjic ... Mark Miller

Other credited cast listed alphabetically
Chris Ackerman
Ben Affleck ... Matt Murdock
Nathaniel Arcand ... Ninja #1
Colin Cunningham ... McCabe
Jason Isaacs ... DeMarco
Hiro Kanagawa
Will Yun Lee ... Kirigi
Natassia Malthe ... Typhoid Mary
Jana Mitsoula ... Young Elektra's Mother
Kirsten Prout ... Abby Miller
Terence Stamp ... Stick
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa ... Roshi

Bob Sapp ... Stone(yes that's this Bob Sapp:

Trivia
• Mixed Martial Arts and K1 fighter in Japan.
• Former NFL player for the Chicago Bears in 1997 and then the Minnesota Vikings from 1997-1998.
• Played college football at the University of Washington.
• Won the IWGP World Heavyweight title from Kensuke Sasaki on March 28, 2004 in Tokyo, Japan.
• Lost at K-1: MMA Championship Romanex on 22nd May 2004 to Kazuyuki Fujita.

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/1309/043zx.jpg

So I went and saw Electra tonight...

It's part The Professional, part Mortal Kombat - a completely different film from Daredevil. Either Affleck's part was cut or it was never filmed; the only reference to the original was acknowledging that she had "died" once.

The movie has some decent effects and some nice outfits for Garner, though they do some close-ups that make her look more elf-like than Liv Tyler.

The movie is really just a series of action sequences loosely held together by a minimal plot. The second half of the film really doesn't hold up to the first half. For the first 45 minutes, we see an interesting "hit-man" movie emerging...

Surprisingly, though, the movie is much more watchable than the critics are suggesting, partly because the movie never pretends to be anything other than of syndicated-TV-action-drama fodder. Movies like Highlander, Robocop, Mortal Kombat, Angel Heart, and They Live have all proven that crappy action films can actually emerge to the next level if everything goes right. And while this one isn't even that good (I gave it a 6/10, my "recommended, though with some reservation rating - IMDB has it below 5.0 right now), there are reasons to check it out.

The first half deals with an obsessive compulsive hit woman who has faced personal demons and tragedy and has no friends to speak of. Elektra's "rise from the dead" and banishment from martial arts training are highlighted in flashbacks and she befriends a young teen girl and the girl's father, only to find out her new assignment is to assassinate them.

The movie takes a serious dive after she goes against her assignment, then saves the two from the next hit squad.

Then special effects and second-rate action scenes start to bog the film down. What's also incomprehensible is the fact that the main "bad dude" who she has to ultimately defeat to survive the movie is apparently easier to kill than Bob Sapp's character, who gets about three minutes of screen time.

Garner gives a passable performance as the tormented assassin and Jonathan Pryce plays her blind martial arts instructor. The plot deserves a 2+ hour movie; this one seems to have been gutted severely to fit into the quicker running time.

I guess ultimately the film is redeemed by Garner's character's compassion for the "targets" of the hit squad (the targets have some secrets of their own). The onscreen duo of Garner and the teen girl is very good and some of the earliest action scenes are great; the movie has a great intro comparable to the original "Batman" and the much underused badguy with the ability to create spirits in the form of his tattoos provides some good moments.

Ultimately, the film seems minor league but avoids being cheesy because of the sincerity of the actors. If they had left this as a straight assassin-type film and left out the supernatural element of the Japanese hit squad, it might have been a 3-star film. As it is, it's merely a guilty pleasure.

Sidenote: I was also pleasantly surprised that I could see the film with my 5-year old son who loves "superhero" and "fighting" movies without squirming. There's only a handful of bad words, no sex, and no blood in this one. There are some scary images, but nothing he struggled with at all. It plays better for kids than the original "Daredevil" which had a sex scene in it that gets fast forwarded when my son watches it...

The hulk, and the daredevil movies sucked. X-Men and Spiderman were great. I hope fantastic Four is good. It has my all time favorite villian - Dr. Doom.


....I couldn't have said it better myself and I totally agree on Dr. Doom.

When are they going to make an Aquaman movie? That **** would be awesome.

AM: So fish, any crime going on over here?
Fish: I'm a fish.

Fantastic Four! That's incredible! I look forward to this one. The Human Torch is awesome. Is Dr. Doom gonna be the villain?

Fantastic four, theres x-men, spider-man, the-hulk, and the daredevil, stan lee is on a roll(if hes makin money of this)

http://pro.imdb.com/news/hwr/2005-01-20/frontpage/2

Judge to Marvel: Pay Lee
20 Jan 2005 10:21am EST - By Jesse Hiestand
Comic book legend Stan Lee could be in for a monster payday after a Manhattan judge ruled that Marvel Enterprises had unfairly deprived him of profits generated by Spider-Man and other characters over the past seven years. Lee's attorney Howard Graff said U.S. District Court Judge Robert Sweet's decision to enforce Lee's 10% profit participation could amount to tens of millions of dollars, as the court noted that the first Spider-Man movie alone has yielded more than $50 million to Marvel. "The foundation of (Marvel) was based on characters he created, and to have to ultimately sue to enforce an agreement under which they were supposed to give him his fair share was very disturbing," Graff said. "We're certainly hoping that Marvel, after they recover from the sting of this decision, will determine that it's time to own up to its obligations to Mr. Lee." Added the 82-year-old Lee, "I am very gratified by the judge's decision, although, since I am deeply fond of Marvel and the people there, I sincerely regret that this situation had to come to this." Marvel has vowed to appeal the decision, which was made Monday but disclosed by the parties Wednesday.

I thought Daredevil was ok but im never gonna watch ultra
cheese like spiderman..

thank **** xmen 1 and 2 didnt use the original storyline like spiderman did.
they should of done the clone wars (not star wars lol) instead of
the ancient and extremely terrible original plot.

cant wait to see blade trinity..
whistler better die horribly.

wonder in the punisher will be as brutal as the ps2 games being hyped

venom or carnige
those fools are bad ass
but spiderman and xmen def best marvel movies
2nd and 3rd only to captain america
lmao that moive sucked

i dont like spiderman because they can put all the action in that movie into one 30 second trailer theres not enough action it but they HAVE TO GET VENOM AND CARNGAE IN IT THOSE EFFECTS WILL LOOK SO TIGHT!!!!!! but i think the next spiderman will be with venom because like kirsten dunst married a astronaut and venom used to be an astronaut or somethin like that or am i thinkin about another bad guy

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/558/558239/an-interview-with-the-cast-and-crew-of-ifantastic-fouri-20041019114015746-000.jpg

yup thats jessica alba

Batman Begins is getting good reviews.

Fantastic Four, on the other hand, did not impress this reviewer:

Ebert's review will be out tomorrow

Review: 'Fantastic Four' Is a Freak Show By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer
2 hours, 3 minutes ago

"Fantastic Four" got there first, developing the concept of superheroes as a dysfunctional family four decades ago. But "The Incredibles" did it far, far better on the big screen.

That animated smash owes an enormous debt to its predecessor, appropriating specific superpowers from the Marvel Comics quartet and the essential theme that life on the homestead goes smoother when kinfolk all row together.

Now the original foursome must flounder in the wake of "The Incredibles, which makes "Fantastic Four" look like a dim, dismal affair by comparison. Even if the cartoon hit had not stolen its thunder, though, "Fantastic Four" would weigh in as a featherweight, feather-headed flick, a low point in the current wave of comic-book adaptations.

Unlike the sometimes ponderous self-importance of "Batman Begins," the themes of racism and alienation in the "X-Men" movies or the notion of personal sacrifice in the "Spider-Man" films, "Fantastic Four" aims for a good old goofy time.

It succeeds on the goofy part, presenting a shallow tale that has a few laughs but no real drama. Less a movie than an anecdotal collection of slapstick action, "Fantastic Four" carries the silliness to such a degree you practically expect campy flashes of "Thwap!" and "Kapow!" a la the 1960s "Batman" TV show.

The movie starts at the beginning, explaining how four astronauts encountered a nasty space storm whose radiation turned them into a merry band of mutants.

Dr. Reed Richards ( Ioan Gruffudd), a weeny egghead who has to go begging arrogant old school chum Victor Von Doom ( Julian McMahon) to back an expedition to study the storm, is turned into human Silly Putty, able to stretch and contort his body any way he wants.

Reed's former squeeze Sue Storm ( Jessica Alba), now Von Doom's girlfriend, finds she can turn invisible and create force fields. Her brother, Johnny Storm ( Chris Evans), gains the power to fly and engulf himself in flames. Reed's buddy Ben Grimm ( Michael Chiklis) is transformed into a rocklike hulk with amazing strength.

Unlike the usual superhero alter egos, the foursome's identities and powers become widely known after a public spectacle of heroics on the Brooklyn Bridge. In the media, Reed becomes known as Mr. Fantastic, Sue the Invisible Woman, Johnny the Human Torch, and Ben the Thing.

Meantime, Victor has been quietly mutating himself, taking on metallic and electromagnetic properties that make him the virtually indestructible megalomaniac Dr. Doom, whose first order of business is to eliminate the Fantastic Four. He doesn't seem to have any plans beyond that.

Tim Story, who made an admirable debut with "Barbershop" but followed with last year's feeble action comedy "Taxi," was a curious choice to direct. As "Taxi" showed, he is not very adept at handling action, and the far more elaborate stunt sequences in "Fantastic Four" look choppy and ill-defined.

The visual effects are cartoonish. Again, the movie suffers from comparisons to "The Incredibles," which had the benefit of being a real cartoon, its heroes' abilities wilder yet still more believable because of their animated context.

The screenplay by Mark Frost and Michael France presents a miserly little personal battle between the good guys and Doom, leaving no sense that anything is at stake other than these sideshow freaks themselves.

Relationships among the groups are thin and corny, and the movie's endless gatherings of gawking onlookers continually distract. The background crowds ham it up so much they collectively deserve a worst-actor prize for non-speaking extras.

After the Brooklyn Bridge incident, a mess they indirectly caused, the Fantastic Four spent much of the movie squabbling like a family in group therapy gone horribly wrong. They knock each other about with no regard to the safety of others, begging the question, are these superheroes more trouble than they're worth?

Of course, the movie has the obligatory set up for a sequel. Let's hope this misfit family decides to part company before it comes to that.

"Fantastic Four," a 20th Century Fox release, is rated PG-13 for sequences of intense action, and some suggestive content. Running time: 106 minutes. One and a half stars out of four.

Batman Begins is getting good reviews.

Fantastic Four, on the other hand, did not impress this reviewer:

Ebert's review will be out tomorrow

Review: 'Fantastic Four' Is a Freak Show By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer
2 hours, 3 minutes ago

"Fantastic Four" got there first, developing the concept of superheroes as a dysfunctional family four decades ago. But "The Incredibles" did it far, far better on the big screen.

That animated smash owes an enormous debt to its predecessor, appropriating specific superpowers from the Marvel Comics quartet and the essential theme that life on the homestead goes smoother when kinfolk all row together.

Now the original foursome must flounder in the wake of "The Incredibles, which makes "Fantastic Four" look like a dim, dismal affair by comparison. Even if the cartoon hit had not stolen its thunder, though, "Fantastic Four" would weigh in as a featherweight, feather-headed flick, a low point in the current wave of comic-book adaptations.

Unlike the sometimes ponderous self-importance of "Batman Begins," the themes of racism and alienation in the "X-Men" movies or the notion of personal sacrifice in the "Spider-Man" films, "Fantastic Four" aims for a good old goofy time.

It succeeds on the goofy part, presenting a shallow tale that has a few laughs but no real drama. Less a movie than an anecdotal collection of slapstick action, "Fantastic Four" carries the silliness to such a degree you practically expect campy flashes of "Thwap!" and "Kapow!" a la the 1960s "Batman" TV show.

The movie starts at the beginning, explaining how four astronauts encountered a nasty space storm whose radiation turned them into a merry band of mutants.

Dr. Reed Richards ( Ioan Gruffudd), a weeny egghead who has to go begging arrogant old school chum Victor Von Doom ( Julian McMahon) to back an expedition to study the storm, is turned into human Silly Putty, able to stretch and contort his body any way he wants.

Reed's former squeeze Sue Storm ( Jessica Alba), now Von Doom's girlfriend, finds she can turn invisible and create force fields. Her brother, Johnny Storm ( Chris Evans), gains the power to fly and engulf himself in flames. Reed's buddy Ben Grimm ( Michael Chiklis) is transformed into a rocklike hulk with amazing strength.

Unlike the usual superhero alter egos, the foursome's identities and powers become widely known after a public spectacle of heroics on the Brooklyn Bridge. In the media, Reed becomes known as Mr. Fantastic, Sue the Invisible Woman, Johnny the Human Torch, and Ben the Thing.

Meantime, Victor has been quietly mutating himself, taking on metallic and electromagnetic properties that make him the virtually indestructible megalomaniac Dr. Doom, whose first order of business is to eliminate the Fantastic Four. He doesn't seem to have any plans beyond that.

Tim Story, who made an admirable debut with "Barbershop" but followed with last year's feeble action comedy "Taxi," was a curious choice to direct. As "Taxi" showed, he is not very adept at handling action, and the far more elaborate stunt sequences in "Fantastic Four" look choppy and ill-defined.

The visual effects are cartoonish. Again, the movie suffers from comparisons to "The Incredibles," which had the benefit of being a real cartoon, its heroes' abilities wilder yet still more believable because of their animated context.

The screenplay by Mark Frost and Michael France presents a miserly little personal battle between the good guys and Doom, leaving no sense that anything is at stake other than these sideshow freaks themselves.

Relationships among the groups are thin and corny, and the movie's endless gatherings of gawking onlookers continually distract. The background crowds ham it up so much they collectively deserve a worst-actor prize for non-speaking extras.

After the Brooklyn Bridge incident, a mess they indirectly caused, the Fantastic Four spent much of the movie squabbling like a family in group therapy gone horribly wrong. They knock each other about with no regard to the safety of others, begging the question, are these superheroes more trouble than they're worth?

Of course, the movie has the obligatory set up for a sequel. Let's hope this misfit family decides to part company before it comes to that.

"Fantastic Four," a 20th Century Fox release, is rated PG-13 for sequences of intense action, and some suggestive content. Running time: 106 minutes. One and a half stars out of four.

i almost never agree with what anyone says or thinks about a movie. everyone has thier own opinion. i tend to look at movies differently than most.

Fantastic 4 doesnt look good. Other than Jessica Alba looking like a goddess as usual.

Fantastic 4 doesnt look good. Other than Jessica Alba looking like a goddess as usual.

hey if you were on a date with mandy moore would you fart real loud for her?

hey if you were on a date with mandy moore would you fart real loud for her?



HAHA, I might take a step or two away, then let it rip!

how come people didnt like the hulk, he looked cool as hell....

he was my fav character when i was little so iam biased, also if they make a part two they should get abomination in that **** he was a crazy hulk villian

Hulk is a very cool comic character, but the movie sucked in my opinion.

I got a ****load accompolished this morning and took a couple hours this afternoon to view the new Fantastic Four movie. If you don't want to know anything about the flick stop reading now.

It was a bit disappointing to tell the truth. We did get to see Alba in her panties and bra a couple times, but the main problem was that they spent too much time on developing the "feelings" of the characters and not enough having them do battle with Dr. Doom. Half the movie was developing the bogus Doom/Susan/Reed relationship triagle, and the other half was showing the pain Ben Grimm was going through due to his transformation into The Thing. The big battle finally takes place in the final 15 minutes and wasn't really that great. There are two other things that took away from the film if you are a fan of the FF comics. The first is that they make Reed Richards out to be a pussified geek with no skill at social interaction. The second is the fact that they completely diverge from the true origin of Dr. Doom. They remake him into something he never was and his relationshi[p with Reed and Susan is contrived and inaccurate.

My bad - I work overnights and came home and posted that Ebert's review came out "tomorrow" when it's already Friday.

So - Ebert hates it worse than the reviewer at the top of the page

He gives it *

Fantastic Four


BY ROGER EBERT / July 8, 2005

Cast & CreditsReed Richards/Mr. Fantastic: Ioan Gruffudd
Ben Grimm/Thing: Michael Chiklis
Sue Storm/Invisible Woman: Jessica Alba
Johnny Storm/Human Torch: Chris Evans
Victor Von Doom/Dr. Doom: Julian McMahon
Alicia Masters: Kerry Washington

Twentieth Century Fox presents a film directed by Tim Story. Written by Michael France, Mark Frost and Simon Kimberg, based on the comic book and characters by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. Running time: 105 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for sequences of intense action and some suggestive content).

So you get in a spaceship, and you venture into orbit to research a mysterious star storm hurtling toward Earth. There's a theory it may involve properties of use to man. The spaceship is equipped with a shield to protect its passengers from harmful effects, but the storm arrives ahead of schedule and saturates everybody on board with unexplained but powerful energy that creates radical molecular changes in their bodies.

They return safety to Earth, only to discover that Reed Richards (Ioan Gruffudd), the leader of the group, has a body that can take any form or stretch to unimaginable lengths. Call him Mr. Fantastic. Ben Grimm (Michael Chiklis) develops superhuman powers in a vast and bulky body that seems made of stone. Call him the Thing. Sue Storm (Jessica Alba) can become invisible at will and generate force fields that can contain propane explosions, in case you have a propane explosion that needs containing but want the option of being invisible. Call her Invisible Woman. And her brother Johnny Storm (Chris Evans) has a body that can burn at supernova temperatures. Call him the Human Torch.

I almost forgot the villain, Victor Von Doom (Julian McMahon), who becomes Dr. Doom and wants to use the properties of the star storm and the powers of the Fantastic Four for his own purposes. He eventually becomes metallic.

By this point in the review, are you growing a little restless? What am I gonna do, list names and actors and superpowers and nicknames forever? That's how the movie feels.

It's all setup and demonstration, and naming and discussing and demonstrating, and it never digests the complications of the Fantastic Four and gets on to telling a compelling story. Sure, there's a nice sequence where the Thing keeps a fire truck from falling off a bridge, but you see one fire truck saved from falling off a bridge, you've seen them all.

The Fantastic Four are, in short, underwhelming. The edges kind of blur between them and other superhero teams. That's understandable. How many people could pass a test right now on who the X-Men are and what their powers are? Or would want to? I wasn't watching "Fantastic Four" to study it, but to be entertained by it, but how could I be amazed by a movie that makes its own characters so indifferent about themselves?

The Human Torch, to repeat, can burn at supernova temperatures! He can become so hot, indeed, that he could threaten the very existence of the Earth itself! This is absolutely stupendously amazing, wouldn't you agree? If you could burn at supernova temperatures, would you be able to stop talking about it? I know people who won't shut up about winning 50 bucks in the lottery.

But after Johnny Storm finds out he has become the Human Torch, he takes it pretty much in stride, showing off a little by setting his thumb on fire. Later he saves the Earth, while Invisible Woman simultaneously contains his supernova so he doesn't destroy it. That means Invisible Woman could maybe create a force field to contain the sun, which would be a big deal, but she's too distracted to explore the possibilities; she gets uptight because she will have to be naked to be invisible, because otherwise people could see her empty clothes; it is no consolation to her that invisible nudity is more of a metaphysical concept than a condition.

Are these people complete idiots? The entire nature of their existence has radically changed, and they're about as excited as if they got a makeover on "Oprah." The exception is Ben Grimm, as the Thing, who gets depressed when he looks in the mirror. Unlike the others, who look normal, except when actually exhibiting superpowers, he looks like -- well, he looks like the Hulk, just as the Human Torch looks like the Flash, and the Invisible Woman has some of the same powers as Storm in "X-Men."

Is this the road company? Thing clomps around on his Size 18 boulders and feels like an outcast until he meets a blind woman named Alicia (Kerry Washington) who loves him, in part because she can't see him. But the Thing looks like Don Rickles crossed with Mt. Rushmore; he has a body that feels like a driveway and a face with crevices you could hide a toothbrush in. Alicia tenderly feels his face with her fingers, like blind people often do while falling in love in the movies, and I guess she likes what she feels. Maybe she's extrapolating.

The story involves Dr. Doom's plot to ... but perhaps we need not concern ourselves with the plot of the movie, since it is undermined at every moment by the unwieldy need to involve a screenful of characters, who, despite the most astonishing powers, have not been made exciting or even interesting. The X-Men are major league compared to them.

And the really good superhero movies, like "Superman," "SpiderMan 2" and "Batman Begins," leave "Fantastic Four" so far behind that the movie should almost be ashamed to show itself in the same theaters.

My bad - I work overnights and came home and posted that Ebert's review came out "tomorrow" when it's already Friday.

So - Ebert hates it worse than the reviewer at the top of the page

He gives it *

Fantastic Four


BY ROGER EBERT / July 8, 2005

Cast & CreditsReed Richards/Mr. Fantastic: Ioan Gruffudd
Ben Grimm/Thing: Michael Chiklis
Sue Storm/Invisible Woman: Jessica Alba
Johnny Storm/Human Torch: Chris Evans
Victor Von Doom/Dr. Doom: Julian McMahon
Alicia Masters: Kerry Washington

Twentieth Century Fox presents a film directed by Tim Story. Written by Michael France, Mark Frost and Simon Kimberg, based on the comic book and characters by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. Running time: 105 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for sequences of intense action and some suggestive content).

So you get in a spaceship, and you venture into orbit to research a mysterious star storm hurtling toward Earth. There's a theory it may involve properties of use to man. The spaceship is equipped with a shield to protect its passengers from harmful effects, but the storm arrives ahead of schedule and saturates everybody on board with unexplained but powerful energy that creates radical molecular changes in their bodies.

They return safety to Earth, only to discover that Reed Richards (Ioan Gruffudd), the leader of the group, has a body that can take any form or stretch to unimaginable lengths. Call him Mr. Fantastic. Ben Grimm (Michael Chiklis) develops superhuman powers in a vast and bulky body that seems made of stone. Call him the Thing. Sue Storm (Jessica Alba) can become invisible at will and generate force fields that can contain propane explosions, in case you have a propane explosion that needs containing but want the option of being invisible. Call her Invisible Woman. And her brother Johnny Storm (Chris Evans) has a body that can burn at supernova temperatures. Call him the Human Torch.

I almost forgot the villain, Victor Von Doom (Julian McMahon), who becomes Dr. Doom and wants to use the properties of the star storm and the powers of the Fantastic Four for his own purposes. He eventually becomes metallic.

By this point in the review, are you growing a little restless? What am I gonna do, list names and actors and superpowers and nicknames forever? That's how the movie feels.

It's all setup and demonstration, and naming and discussing and demonstrating, and it never digests the complications of the Fantastic Four and gets on to telling a compelling story. Sure, there's a nice sequence where the Thing keeps a fire truck from falling off a bridge, but you see one fire truck saved from falling off a bridge, you've seen them all.

The Fantastic Four are, in short, underwhelming. The edges kind of blur between them and other superhero teams. That's understandable. How many people could pass a test right now on who the X-Men are and what their powers are? Or would want to? I wasn't watching "Fantastic Four" to study it, but to be entertained by it, but how could I be amazed by a movie that makes its own characters so indifferent about themselves?

The Human Torch, to repeat, can burn at supernova temperatures! He can become so hot, indeed, that he could threaten the very existence of the Earth itself! This is absolutely stupendously amazing, wouldn't you agree? If you could burn at supernova temperatures, would you be able to stop talking about it? I know people who won't shut up about winning 50 bucks in the lottery.

But after Johnny Storm finds out he has become the Human Torch, he takes it pretty much in stride, showing off a little by setting his thumb on fire. Later he saves the Earth, while Invisible Woman simultaneously contains his supernova so he doesn't destroy it. That means Invisible Woman could maybe create a force field to contain the sun, which would be a big deal, but she's too distracted to explore the possibilities; she gets uptight because she will have to be naked to be invisible, because otherwise people could see her empty clothes; it is no consolation to her that invisible nudity is more of a metaphysical concept than a condition.

Are these people complete idiots? The entire nature of their existence has radically changed, and they're about as excited as if they got a makeover on "Oprah." The exception is Ben Grimm, as the Thing, who gets depressed when he looks in the mirror. Unlike the others, who look normal, except when actually exhibiting superpowers, he looks like -- well, he looks like the Hulk, just as the Human Torch looks like the Flash, and the Invisible Woman has some of the same powers as Storm in "X-Men."

Is this the road company? Thing clomps around on his Size 18 boulders and feels like an outcast until he meets a blind woman named Alicia (Kerry Washington) who loves him, in part because she can't see him. But the Thing looks like Don Rickles crossed with Mt. Rushmore; he has a body that feels like a driveway and a face with crevices you could hide a toothbrush in. Alicia tenderly feels his face with her fingers, like blind people often do while falling in love in the movies, and I guess she likes what she feels. Maybe she's extrapolating.

The story involves Dr. Doom's plot to ... but perhaps we need not concern ourselves with the plot of the movie, since it is undermined at every moment by the unwieldy need to involve a screenful of characters, who, despite the most astonishing powers, have not been made exciting or even interesting. The X-Men are major league compared to them.

And the really good superhero movies, like "Superman," "SpiderMan 2" and "Batman Begins," leave "Fantastic Four" so far behind that the movie should almost be ashamed to show itself in the same theaters.

Who gives a **** what Roger Ebert thinks? Santino's review is all that matters.

They are also making a Ghost Rider movie starring Nicholas Cage.

I can't wait for X-3. X-2's opening sequence was badass. The movie as a whole was damned good too.


I just hope the bad guy is Mr Sinister. Nobody is more badass than Sinister.

I can't wait for X-3. X-2's opening sequence was badass. The movie as a whole was damned good too.


I just hope the bad guy is Mr Sinister. Nobody is more badass than Sinister.

What worries me about X-3 is that the director Bryan Singer bailed to do the new Superman movie. And while we are on the subject of that movie, I am carefully optimistic right now.