what tools would you use to make mike tyson the best heavyweight of all times?

There was an artifact written about in Bob Salvatore's, "Silent Blade", I think it was, and while I can't remember the name of the artifact, it's function was that it allowed one person to transform completely into another person.

If I was Cus, I'd travel to Calimport, find that artifact, and turn Mike into either Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali, depending on your opinion as to who the greatest at that weight.

Sorry, but I can't think of any other way.

I'd drill into him body body body. Never throw a head shot until your opponents ribs were black and blue and he drops his hands. In short, I'd turn him into Joe Frazier.

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I would give him a rifle and a helmet and send him over to army, maybe they will have a use for him.

Get him a psychiatrists when he was like 12.

Get him a psychiatrists when he was like 12.

Great idea Versi LOL!

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** If I were D'amato, I'd tell the Don't Know It Poet to find some rhyme and reason to be greezin' every season instead of bothering me.

what i would do is get him out of the "hood" and get him a psychiatric and educate him well, and then so on...

I think Cus did all he could do, he got to the point where the rest of the development was on Mike Tyson's shoulders. Mike was what? 19...
and a difficult character... sh!t happens, and it happened

I guess the shrink would have been a good idea.

BTW, I think Cus actually took him out of the ghetto, didn't he? helpe me out here Tyson experts.

I think Cus did all he could do, he got to the point where the rest of the development was on Mike Tyson's shoulders. Mike was what? 19...
and a difficult character... sh!t happens, and it happened

I guess the shrink would have been a good idea.

BTW, I think Cus actually took him out of the ghetto, didn't he? helpe me out here Tyson experts.

Tyson was in an institution for boys when one of the workers there started working with Tyson and then told Cus that he hits extremely hard and he needs to check him out.So Tyson went for a tryout you can say.Then Cus took him in after that. So well,in a way he did.

Tyson was in an institution for boys when one of the workers there started working with Tyson and then told Cus that he hits extremely hard and he needs to check him out.So Tyson went for a tryout you can say.Then Cus took him in after that. So well,in a way he did.

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Do the same things Cus did, but be a lot tougher on Mike. Not let him get away with any **** like Cus always did.

If Tyson would have beat Buster Douglas and his confidence kept growing he could have gone on to be the best. He was never the same after that fight. He was winning too easily and got to complacent and thats what lead to his downfall

I disagree, and think the loss to Douglas was actually beneficial, as you could see in his next few fights before going to prison. He actually showed heart, and he fought like he wanted to have a gameplan for winning. (See: Ruddock 1 & 2)

Cus did everything he could do. The question should probably be directed towards Rooney and the guys who had him after D'amato's death. I, for one, would never have let him get involved with Don King or Robin Givens. Telling a 20-something kid that he is invincible probably didn't help, either.

I think Cus should have been more disiplined with Mike, and showed him that he couldn't just do anything he wanted and get away with it, also I agree with Brassangel in that after his death, those people that told him he was invincible really didn't help, I think though that Tyson's main problem was always self confidence, he never had any, so when he came up against someone that didn't just roll over and stood up to him, he always just wanted out. At 14 in an amatuer fight he was pounding this guy who kept getting up, Tyson never liked this and in the corner between rounds told Atlas he was injured and wanted out, Atlas just ignored him and told him to go back out and carry on doing what your doing, again after the end of the 2nd he kept making excuses for trying to get out of the fight, he went on to win a decision, but I think that says a lot about the character of Tyson, he should have had all the confidence in the world, but when people stood up to him he never liked it,and always wanted out, though he always took his punches like a man and never quit, maybe he thought he deserved a beating, who knows what went through this complexe mind of his. He never really really dug as deep as he could of to win a fight that wasn't going his way, he just lacked that mental toughness and win at all cost attitude of Holyfield.

rewire his personality to give him the heart of an ali, frazier, Holyfield, **** even a Lewis.

If I was Cus i would have went to the doctors made sure i would be around to see mike Become Champ!

rewire his personality to give him the heart of an ali, frazier, Holyfield, **** even a Lewis.

He had heart once he was in the ring. Cus did all he could in that department like he did Patterson(Another man with a lot of heart). It was Tyson that screwed that up.

what tools would you use to make mike tyson the best heavyweight of all times?

A staff of psychiatrists and absolutely no contact verbal, physical or otherwise with females.

Rooney used to program Mike into believing that his opponents were his enemies, but in the competitive sense. He would study their films, watch their fights, and deconstruct them scientifically. Cus gave him his style, and a father figure. Both men kept Mike training all the time, without long breaks to balloon into a fat, careless heavyweight (like he did right before his fights with Bruno, Williams, and Douglas).

Mike was told he was invincible by King and that crew of losers. They also told him, "Hey, you're the heavyweight champion of the world! You can have anything and anyone you want!" If Cus and/or Rooney could have done anything to keep Tyson away from those characters, he would have stood a chance.

He had heart once he was in the ring. Cus did all he could in that department like he did Patterson(Another man with a lot of heart). It was Tyson that screwed that up.that's true.

I'd have him learn to fight a more defensive style in the same form as James Toney uses today.

I'd let him go all out for the first round or two but after that i'd make him rest on the ropes until the later rounds where he would still be fairly fresh.

One reason I think this would be helpful is that he would have never became as reliant on his power and would have developed an ability to take pressure better instead of always being the one to aply.

I would have also liked Mike Tyson to have the feet to be fleet footed and be able to float around the ring like Ali.....

But really I would have also liked to see him dance a bit if and when needed {If slugging or the Toney style arn't working}.

It may have helped in fights where he was well over sized and couldn't take a lot of damage from the bigger amn but he may have been able to tire them out with pot shots.

Just think of what it would be like if Roy Jones had Tyson's power and was pot shotting you in the ribs and stomach all night. :omfg:

I wouldn't change anything, Cus did everything right...except taking care of himself