Why do people enjoy this guy it seems like he can do no wrong

He snitched on Dj Drama
He has a tear tatto on him yet he grew up in hip-hop with a well to do family
He goes takes college courses and in the "hood" thats not looked upon as hard
He doesnt have club bangers
His Fashion sense swagger jackin the clipse "bapes, Red monkey"
And ofcourse he kissed baby

yall need to listen to ya boy that guy the truth he just as good as lil wayne he from frisco

Why do people enjoy this guy it seems like he can do no wrong

He snitched on Dj Drama
He has a tear tatto on him yet he grew up in hip-hop with a well to do family
He goes takes college courses and in the "hood" thats not looked upon as hard
He doesnt have club bangers
His Fashion sense swagger jackin the clipse "bapes, Red monkey"
And ofcourse he kissed baby

If he snitched on drama, why's he doing a dedication 3 album with him?

Well to do family? You should really read up on him if you think that..or whatever you ****ing mean.

So what about his fashion sense? In that case if you saying he jackin clipse then clipse most likely jacked someone else.

So what if he kissed baby? You homophobic?

You don't have to listen to him if you don't like him.

I THINK HE IS TALKIN ABOUT THIS BUT ITS ONLY SPECULATION

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1556017/20070330/dj_drama.jhtml

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1550185/20070118/dj_drama.jhtml

ABOUT WAYNE SNITCHIN

If you don't like him that's fine. But don't try and put poeple down who listen to him. Why does it matter?

If he snitched on drama, why's he doing a dedication 3 album with him?

Well to do family? You should really read up on him if you think that..or whatever you ****ing mean.

So what about his fashion sense? In that case if you saying he jackin clipse then clipse most likely jacked someone else.

So what if he kissed baby? You homophobic?

You don't have to listen to him if you don't like him.

Is wayne homosexual?

Is wayne homosexual?

what you couldn't tell???

Is wayne homosexual?
Thats what his haters say. Just for kissing his STEP FATHER. He's labeled a homo.

Thats what his haters say. Just for kissing his STEP FATHER. He's labeled a homo.

Well, I havent kissed my actual father on the lips, probably since I was about 5 years old. Fan or not, that's a rather "suspect" action.

Well, I havent kissed my actual father on the lips, probably since I was about 5 years old. Fan or not, that's a rather "suspect" action.

Good point but I don't think its like that with every other family but he still produces good music in my opinion. I couldn't care whether he was closeted, open, or not even a homosexual.

people only like wayne for his snappy similies hes a pretty good rapper but dont be so blinded by his nuts that he is not good for hip hop

people only like wayne for his snappy similies hes a pretty good rapper but dont be so blinded by his nuts that he is not good for hip hop

Then who is good for Hip hop besides who made you the one to judge that?

Common,Lupe,Gemini,Murs,MF Doom,Slug,Atmosphere, Etc....

Underground needs to revive the values of hip-hop

Common,Lupe,Gemini,Murs,MF Doom,Slug,Atmosphere, Etc....

Underground needs to revive the values of hip-hop

Basically you're saying the southern style isn't good for hip hop because I don't see how any of those are southern (maybe they are but I usually listen to wayne and other southern rappers)

It's just what people likes and from what i've seen (not on this site anyway) a lot of people like Wayne's southern style.

Basically you're saying the southern style isn't good for hip hop because I don't see how any of those are southern (maybe they are but I usually listen to wayne and other southern rappers)

It's just what people likes and from what i've seen (not on this site anyway) a lot of people like Wayne's southern style.

Wayne aint bad its just he's been heard to much, he shouldnt be release all these mixtapes his most songs are good and hes hittin the game harder than alot of people. Its just he seems fradulent outside of the booth

Wayne aint bad its just he's been heard to much, he shouldnt be release all these mixtapes his most songs are good and hes hittin the game harder than alot of people. Its just he seems fradulent outside of the booth

I don't think it's actually most of his doing about the mixtapes. Usually he lets you know what are the serious ones or not like Drought 3 and Dedication 2. DJ's use him because he's one of the better out right now which could ruin his welcome.

i hate his music i could care less about other people listenin to him.

Why do people enjoy this guy it seems like he can do no wrong

He snitched on Dj Drama
He has a tear tatto on him yet he grew up in hip-hop with a well to do family
He goes takes college courses and in the "hood" thats not looked upon as hard
He doesnt have club bangers
His Fashion sense swagger jackin the clipse "bapes, Red monkey"
And ofcourse he kissed baby


Lmao, Lil Wayne aint nothing, went on you tube and checked him out, guy aint got no lyrics, ****in jay Z hotted him up anyways,

And he is clearly not a gangster, he a pop tart, soft in the middle, you can see that

Rap Music died years ago,

RIP Tupac, Biggie, Big Pun, Big L, Free Shyne po.

I think Wayne is average, he's certainly not as great as he's advertised. He's done some good work, but is painfully overrated. Wayne > Jeezy though.

Souljah boy>>Jeezy haha

I appreciate Wayne and consider myself a fan of his music but I havent been feelin his **** as of late. Plagued with comparisons, and odd flows. I hope Carter 3 is Carter 2 worthy, but I doubt it.

The hatorade is spilling over the top.

The hatorade is spilling over the top.




Where's the "hatorade" in this thread? You heard that new UGK yet?

Bump/.....

Why do people enjoy this guy it seems like he can do no wrong

He snitched on Dj Drama
He has a tear tatto on him yet he grew up in hip-hop with a well to do family
He goes takes college courses and in the "hood" thats not looked upon as hard
He doesnt have club bangers
His Fashion sense swagger jackin the clipse "bapes, Red monkey"
And ofcourse he kissed baby
He make good music...with or without someone else...

That other crap you mentioned is null & void..

That new "Lollipop" song is ****ing trash. I'm not saying that because I dislike Lil Wayne, I'm not a "hater" (I bought "Tha Block Is Hot" when it dropped), it's just ****ing horrible. I don't know why people who support him can't see that he only gets so much hate/criticism is because of people calling him "The Best rapper alive". Everyone has their opinion, but those with an opinion have ears too, and lyrical skill can be assesed in addition to one's opinion.

on a side note:

That new "Lollipop" song is ****ing trash. I'm not saying that because I dislike Lil Wayne, I'm not a "hater" (I bought "Tha Block Is Hot" when it dropped), it's just ****ing horrible. I don't know why people who support him can't see that he only gets so much hate/criticism is because of people calling him "The Best rapper alive". Everyone has their opinion, but those with an opinion have ears too, and lyrical skill can be assesed in addition to one's opinion.

on a side note:
Its a great DIFFERENT song GHandz...Your boy flipped it and I give him mad propz for that...Oh and Tha Block is Hot gives you no Lil Wayne non hater credit..You know damn well you're passing judgement here..lol

Rosewood, you like Lollipop!!!!!!!????


Wow.

Rosewood, you like Lollipop!!!!!!!????


Wow.
LOL - you know it's bad when even jack mocks it.

Yeah, who gave Wayne that damn voicebox? He ruins that Shawty Lo remix with it too.

Rosewood, you like Lollipop!!!!!!!????


Wow.
I actually think its a creative jam..Far from what Lil Wayne normally produces..

LOL - you know it's bad when even jack mocks it.

Yeah, who gave Wayne that damn voicebox? He ruins that Shawty Lo remix with it too.
You can't possible hate 100% of this man's music!!

Is it due to the fact that he get more pub than your favorite rapper?? Please advise your hating..

Why do people enjoy this guy it seems like he can do no wrong

He snitched on Dj Drama
He has a tear tatto on him yet he grew up in hip-hop with a well to do family
He goes takes college courses and in the "hood" thats not looked upon as hard
He doesnt have club bangers
His Fashion sense swagger jackin the clipse "bapes, Red monkey"
And ofcourse he kissed baby

Wow, he actually did good things in his life. :nonono: He would be killed.

When listening to Wayne you gotta listen really good, he says alot of metaphors(that some of you guys probably dont get) also he makes you think when he raps. If you just give up on him(his mixtapes, not mainstream) after the first song then you wont get it, gotta listen again to get that "oooh, I get it" feeling.

When listening to Wayne you gotta listen really good, he says alot of metaphors(that some of you guys probably dont get) also he makes you think when he raps. If you just give up on him(his mixtapes, not mainstream) after the first song then you wont get it, gotta listen again to get that "oooh, I get it" feeling.
NEILS....................

I actually think its a creative jam..Far from what Lil Wayne normally produces..

Keep stuff like that hidden deep in the album or bring it out on youtube.
Don't use **** like that to warm people up to your long awaited album. Turns people off and makes the haters hate harder.

I live in South Florida, mother****ers here are craaaaaaaaazy for Wayne.
...While I won't say everybody hates it, some guys I know who are big fans of his were like, "What the **** is he doing on that track?"

Keep stuff like that hidden deep in the album or bring it out on youtube.
Don't use **** like that to warm people up to your long awaited album. Turns people off and makes the haters hate harder.
True.......
But it also shows that he is able to stray away from the norm....

I live in South Florida, mother****ers here are craaaaaaaaazy for Wayne.
...While I won't say everybody hates it, some guys I know who are big fans of his were like, "What the **** is he doing on that track?"
LOL yea....my boys are all thinking rock n roll ****...

The only knock on the song I have is that you have to listen to damn hard to understand one word he's saying..Other than that I cool with it..It far from a image maker or breaker..

After all the **** I used to give Lil Wayne, Carter II is virtually the only album i'm playing at the minute.

True.......
But it also shows that he is able to stray away from the norm....

I wouldn't call that lollipop song "straying from the norm", maybe straying from his norm, because he's basically just copying t-pain's style, and t-pain does that style better. The song sucks, but true, I can't fault him for doing something different. Even if he's doing it because of t-pain's popularity.

You can't possible hate 100% of this man's music!!

Is it due to the fact that he get more pub than your favorite rapper?? Please advise your hating..
Not 100%. But due to sheer volume, it works out to a lot of singles. I think Wayne might have a good album in him, but he's more focused on being a pop star like Ja Rule was a few years ago, doing little cameos in Top 40 star songs and assorted rap songs. I'm not a hater; if he put out songs on par with "Go DJ", "Fireman", or "Stuntin Like My Daddy" recently - none of which are classics, but all of which are passable radio singles - I wouldn't criticize.

But there's a new fad where artists are all collaborating with Wayne despite Wayne not ever having anything close to a classic album - and many of the results are garbage. Lately, I like Wayne's part on "Brown Paper Bag" by DJ Khaled, I like the "Crackhouse" duet with Fat Joe; but he's a lot more miss than hit.

On top of that, Jay-Z, Missy Elliot, Snoop, Ludacris all feature on pop singles better than he does.

If there were a rap draft the same size as the NFL or NBA, he'd be a late 2nd round pick. That's why all the hype baffles me - like why would Jay-Z even release the song with Wayne from American Gangster when it's obviously the worst song on the disc - Wayne's appearance on the new Kanye album was "standout bad" as well.

I don't understand the "Wayne can do no wrong" attitude that some of this board has (though it still doesn't translate to record sales). I've given praise to some surprise albums lately - the Fat Joe, Styles P, Beanie Sigel, Chamillionaire discs were all better than I would have thought. I wish Wayne would put something out to justify the hype.

But 2Pac could re-emerge, show the world he's not really dead, and record "Lollipop" and I would trash him as well. Wayne's in a position right now where anything he touches is received well by his fanboys; he's really, really putting that to the test with his new single though.

When listening to Wayne you gotta listen really good, he says alot of metaphors(that some of you guys probably dont get) also he makes you think when he raps. If you just give up on him(his mixtapes, not mainstream) after the first song then you wont get it, gotta listen again to get that "oooh, I get it" feeling.
He's Jay-Z Lite when it comes to metaphors - if you told Redman to write a Lil' Wayne imitative song, it would be twice as good.

Honestly, Trademarc (John Cena's cousin) had some good one-liners on their disc. Surely you have more to offer than just that when defending Wayne?

Get me and a handful of random, mildly intelligent guys on some chemical, , put a rap beat behind us, and you'll get a lot of punny potential - but likely nothing that would lead to a great rap song.

He's alright as a rapper, but he is not what street music is all about. He states all these things he's done and hasn't done any of it. HE IS A FRAUD. HE SAYS HE HAS BEEN SHOT AS IF SOMEONE DID IT TO HIM WHEN IN FACT HE SHOT HIMSELF PLAYING WITH THE GUN IN HIS BEDROOM.

NEILS.....

Not 100%. But due to sheer volume, it works out to a lot of singles. I think Wayne might have a good album in him, but he's more focused on being a pop star like Ja Rule was a few years ago, doing little cameos in Top 40 star songs and assorted rap songs. I'm not a hater; if he put out songs on par with "Go DJ", "Fireman", or "Stuntin Like My Daddy" recently - none of which are classics, but all of which are passable radio singles - I wouldn't criticize. True in a sense..I would say Stuntin like my daddy is probably the best song of 2007..You have to know that he, due to people with your same opinion, has put a great deal into making Carter III the best album he's ever made..You have to know that..

But there's a new fad where artists are all collaborating with Wayne despite Wayne not ever having anything close to a classic album - and many of the results are garbage. Lately, I like Wayne's part on "Brown Paper Bag" by DJ Khaled, I like the "Crackhouse" duet with Fat Joe; but he's a lot more miss than hit. Its not about him having a classic ablum. Fact has it that Wayne is a bonifide hit maker..No different than R. Kelly a few years back..Everyone wanted a piece of him on their album because he was the best thing smokin at the time..Now Wayne is the best thing smokin followed by T-Pain & Akon..Remember, the need him, he doesn't need them..

On top of that, Jay-Z, Missy Elliot, Snoop, Ludacris all feature on pop singles better than he does. Since when?? 2006-2007, Wayne shut it down..

If there were a rap draft the same size as the NFL or NBA, he'd be a late 2nd round pick. That's why all the hype baffles me - like why would Jay-Z even release the song with Wayne from American Gangster when it's obviously the worst song on the disc - Wayne's appearance on the new Kanye album was "standout bad" as well. I disagree with the draft point..Hello Brooklin was one of the best songs on the album..Honestly, there wasn't a bad song on the album..Wayne made that song..No other artist would have given it the same feel..And you best believe if it was ****ty Jay wouldn't have put it on the album..Now Kanye's album is another story..I hated that track completely..

I don't understand the "Wayne can do no wrong" attitude that some of this board has (though it still doesn't translate to record sales). I've given praise to some surprise albums lately - the Fat Joe, Styles P, Beanie Sigel, Chamillionaire discs were all better than I would have thought. I wish Wayne would put something out to justify the hype. I ride with Wayne because most hate him and I love his work..Give the dude his propz man..He makes hit track (with or without someone)..Its not his fault that MTV labeled him as the best..If not for MTV, people wouldn't hate on him at all..see T-Pain..not pub so no hatin..The Carter II will silence every man woman & beast..

But 2Pac could re-emerge, show the world he's not really dead, and record "Lollipop" and I would trash him as well. Wayne's in a position right now where anything he touches is received well by his fanboys; he's really, really putting that to the test with his new single though. Exactly..Art is a motherf**ker"

Thats what his haters say. Just for kissing his STEP FATHER. He's labeled a homo.

So kissing another man who is not direct blood is ok now?
well if it looks like a duck...

When listening to Wayne you gotta listen really good, he says alot of metaphors(that some of you guys probably dont get) also he makes you think when he raps. If you just give up on him(his mixtapes, not mainstream) after the first song then you wont get it, gotta listen again to get that "oooh, I get it" feeling.

not really ive listend to the Carter III
very very very overated album

The cool Lupe Fiasco
Very Very Very Underrated Album.

Dumb it down
Go Go Gadget Flow
Superstar
they all destroy weezy whole career

He's Jay-Z Lite when it comes to metaphors - if you told Redman to write a Lil' Wayne imitative song, it would be twice as good.

Honestly, Trademarc (John Cena's cousin) had some good one-liners on their disc. Surely you have more to offer than just that when defending Wayne?

Get me and a handful of random, mildly intelligent guys on some chemical, , put a rap beat behind us, and you'll get a lot of punny potential - but likely nothing that would lead to a great rap song.

I dont get alot of rappers that make me think about a song, Wayne does that, obviously he's doing something good. If you can understand this song from beginning to end then you'll get it. Most likely you wont, but millions of other ppl see a bigger point and deeper meaning in the songs. Dont take what he throws out in the mainstream(which right now, downed meaning rap is the way on the radio) because thats what ppl wanna hear now, no deep ****. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0Kr9qUhzKYw&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0Kr9qUhzKYw&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

not really ive listend to the Carter III
very very very overated album

The cool Lupe Fiasco
Very Very Very Underrated Album.

Dumb it down
Go Go Gadget Flow
Superstar
they all destroy weezy whole career

The Carter 3? hahaha. Most likely a mixtape that someone made up. Opinion is an opinion, but for now? For now? He's the one shining over all of them.

The Carter 3? hahaha. Most likely a mixtape that someone made up. Opinion is an opinion, but for now? For now? He's the one shining over all of them.

probly it was my buddy's CD i peronally hate that wack ass "rapper" He is a prime reason of hip hop in Decline. he's sells records yes, but he's in this watered down snappin and popping dance movement, is that hip hop now? What happend to dope lyrics? and smilies,metaphores? they are all below par of the old school artist:owned:

probly it was my buddy's CD i peronally hate that wack ass "rapper" He is a prime reason of hip hop in Decline. he's sells records yes, but he's in this watered down snappin and popping dance movement, is that hip hop now? What happend to dope lyrics? and smilies,metaphores? they are all below par of the old school artist:owned:
You owned yourself by talking about that Carter III stuff...

The Carter 3? hahaha. Most likely a mixtape that someone made up. Opinion is an opinion, but for now? For now? He's the one shining over all of them.
Opinion my a$$...he needs to research before posting...

I dont get alot of rappers that make me think about a song, Wayne does that, obviously he's doing something good. If you can understand this song from beginning to end then you'll get it. Most likely you wont, but millions of other ppl see a bigger point and deeper meaning in the songs. Dont take what he throws out in the mainstream(which right now, downed meaning rap is the way on the radio) because thats what ppl wanna hear now, no deep ****. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0Kr9qUhzKYw&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0Kr9qUhzKYw&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Perhaps thats what the masses want to hear - though radio songs/club song success rarely has to do mainly with lyrics...

...but I think you can tell from this forum as a sample, that many people who respect the musical genre don't share that opinion. I'd be happy to hear a decent mixtape compilation if you've got a link...

SkilledBoxer likely found a link labelled Tha Carter III advance. I've seen those on a few sites though I doubted the authenticity...

probly it was my buddy's CD i peronally hate that wack ass "rapper" He is a prime reason of hip hop in Decline. he's sells records yes, but he's in this watered down snappin and popping dance movement, is that hip hop now? What happend to dope lyrics? and smilies,metaphores? they are all below par of the old school artist:owned:

Listen to a mixtape of Wayne then holla at me, all that I bolded you'd here. No need for the owned sign cause you kinda did that when mentioning things that you think(which obviously if you listened to his mixtapes you'd know) he doesnt do. Holla!!!:wave:

Perhaps thats what the masses want to hear - though radio songs/club song success rarely has to do mainly with lyrics...

...but I think you can tell from this forum as a sample, that many people who respect the musical genre don't share that opinion. I'd be happy to hear a decent mixtape compilation if you've got a link...

SkilledBoxer likely found a link labelled Tha Carter III advance. I've seen those on a few sites though I doubted the authenticity...

The mixtape In the Carter Chronicles is good. Password: www.muziksupremacy.com/forum/ http://rapidshare.com/files/92504106/Lil_Wayne-In_The_Carter_Chronicles-_Bootleg_-2008-pLAN9.rar

When listening to Wayne you gotta listen really good, he says alot of metaphors(that some of you guys probably dont get) also he makes you think when he raps. If you just give up on him(his mixtapes, not mainstream) after the first song then you wont get it, gotta listen again to get that "oooh, I get it" feeling.



All decent rappers use metaphors, Wayne's just isn't that advanced. That said, he is good compared to alot of other guys in the South, but the best stuff out of the South in my opinion is Scarface and Little Brother.