Thats all................

Is there a story behind this?

Is there a story behind this?

No.But there are so many steps and things you can do to better yourself. And those little steps can take months to years to develop. Going a few rounds could kill you if you're not in proper shape. Trying to keep composure when in a live fight. Not tiring yourself out. Trying to figure out someone thats confusing. Constantly running even if you had a bad day or sore as hell.Keeping your hands up. Swelling,how if you get hit with a good shot it looks alot worse live up close then on tv.Your legs start doing things that your mind doesnt let it and you have no control.etc.

I talked to this Cruiserweight for over an hour at our gym yesterday.And he was telling me all the mistakes he made.And for me to watch out for me not to make them also. How his coach threw him to the dogs to fight pro. And a few loses can **** you over big time in Boxing. And there are alot of hungry ppl out there in the boxing world.

All that **** hit me and I was like, damn.:?!: He also showed me somethings I can improve on that he said could have been an easy target for someone that actually really knows what the **** there doing and really smart in the ring.

Its a huge wake up call for all these ppl thinking they're the **** at boxing. I myself know I have a long way to go. But there are some ****y ****ers out there.And yeah that **** aint no game.

For a while when I boxed I used to be flat flooted and wouldn't even use my reach nor my height to my advantage until the coach's son told me to start getting up on the balls of my feet.

Check my footwork is all I had to say afterwards

:cool:

Thats why its best to start early. I wish I would have taken boxing up when I was younger. Back when I was still willing to work hard and focus. Now that Im in College, I find it extremely hard to diet and train everyday, and thats without a job. I'm not sure how I could have juggled school, work, and boxing.

I have a lot of respect for any person who sticks with it. Thats why I hate when people call boxers bums. If they had any idea what it takes just to win one pro fight.

Good call vers. There really is so much more to it than people think. Humility > ****iness

No.But there are so many steps and things you can do to better yourself. And those little steps can take months to years to develop. Going a few rounds could kill you if you're not in proper shape. Trying to keep composure when in a live fight. Not tiring yourself out. Trying to figure out someone thats confusing. Constantly running even if you had a bad day or sore as hell.Keeping your hands up. Swelling,how if you get hit with a good shot it looks alot worse live up close then on tv.Your legs start doing things that your mind doesnt let it and you have no control.etc.

I talked to this Cruiserweight for over an hour at our gym yesterday.And he was telling me all the mistakes he made.And for me to watch out for me not to make them also. How his coach threw him to the dogs to fight pro. And a few loses can **** you over big time in Boxing. And there are alot of hungry ppl out there in the boxing world.

All that **** hit me and I was like, damn.:?!: He also showed me somethings I can improve on that he said could have been an easy target for someone that actually really knows what the **** there doing and really smart in the ring.

Its a huge wake up call for all these ppl thinking they're the **** at boxing. I myself know I have a long way to go. But there are some ****y ****ers out there.And yeah that **** aint no game.

No doubt!

As they say "you don't play boxing!"

yeh it hard for most people who never do and exercise to keep punching for 3 mins

yea well all dudes think they can naturally fight and hang in with fighters they say they dont do it jus cuz they dont want brain damage and ****. no guy is ever gonna say oh yea its too hard i cant do it its a primal thing, but when they come into the ring, those 3 minutes last like 3 years. people jus have no clue and it is SOO funny to hear them talk about tactics and stuff lol.

Yeah, we kinda know it....from experience, you know.

eh.....

the worse thing about boxing is the early stages of training, when your hitting the bag and you start to feel good like your punches could knocked anybody out then you try it in the ring and get clocked with a good shot and get discouraged.

its hard to keep your composure, really hard.

Yeah, we kinda know it....from experience, you know.

eh.....

Take your negativity elsewhere.

the worse thing about boxing is the early stages of training, when your hitting the bag and you start to feel good like your punches could knocked anybody out then you try it in the ring and get clocked with a good shot and get discouraged.

its hard to keep your composure, really hard.



damn, if this aint the truth I dont know what is. and also everything versatile has said. the coach at my gym told me after my 2nd spar that my first one was alot better cuz I calm out confident and ****y as hell but after getting molly whopped one good time I was like fudge this and got on the defensive side. IM short so I guess thats the reason he tells me my offense is my best defense.:ugh:

I agree completely Vers.

I give plenty of credit to ppl that are pros. It takes alot. It might not all show in the ring,but its there.

“Everybody's got plans...until they get hit.”
It sucks when you find out how true that is.

I agree an the average person who's never boxed knows **** about boxing. and they make comments like "body shots are useless" and "why is that guy throwing weak ass jabs"

I remember getting tagged for the first time and it totally threw me off! You quickly realise that ain't no everlast bag with a headguard on! It's someone trying to hit you back! Ever since I started sparring my approach to bag work has completely changed! I keep my guard tight all the time imagining an opponent and not just a bag swinging in front of me! Just one of the many lessons I've learnt in the sweet science!

yea well all dudes think they can naturally fight and hang in with fighters they say they dont do it jus cuz they dont want brain damage and ****. no guy is ever gonna say oh yea its too hard i cant do it its a primal thing, but when they come into the ring, those 3 minutes last like 3 years. people jus have no clue and it is SOO funny to hear them talk about tactics and stuff lol.ya i have a perfect example! the other day i was talking to a kid i used to go to middle school with and he said that sugar shane mosley is over with and needs to retire. I just noded my head and went along with it so i wouldnt just straight up tell him hes a idiot and doesnt know **** about boxing.

Boxing is cool, but that **** is easy. I use to box and I would whoop everyones ass. I'd turn pro but I wanted to do something professionally that was difficult and took a lot of skill.

....and this is what I do now, for example.
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Boxing is cool, but that **** is easy. I use to box and I would whoop everyones ass. I'd turn pro but I wanted to do something professionally that was difficult and took a lot of skill.

....and this is what I do now, for example.
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I bet your handspeed is incredible.:lol1:

Aint that the truth. I give respect to any man who stands across from another man who wants to rip your head off. I do not have respect for quitters like Bruce Seldon. Scum.

thats true....but theres also a lot of politics in boxing if u know wat im talking about....

Very insighftul.

Boxing is cool, but that **** is easy. I use to box and I would whoop everyones ass. I'd turn pro but I wanted to do something professionally that was difficult and took a lot of skill.

....and this is what I do now, for example.
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fuuuuccckkk cup stacking. Most frusterating/stupid thing in the world. Their is more of a chance of me becoming pound 4 pound #1 fighter in the world than me stacking cups like that. For one maybe after 5 minutes wouldnt you realize your wasting time...stacking cups..

there is always something you can improve in boxing...and in cup stacking too i guess.

fuuuuccckkk cup stacking. Most frusterating/stupid thing in the world. Their is more of a chance of me becoming pound 4 pound #1 fighter in the world than me stacking cups like that. For one maybe after 5 minutes wouldnt you realize your wasting time...stacking cups..

Its like ****in alligator wrestlers.... why the **** do it? I mean seriously.. why the hell wrestle an alligator? in water at that.?

Then comes stacking cups.

the worse thing about boxing is the early stages of training, when your hitting the bag and you start to feel good like your punches could knocked anybody out then you try it in the ring and get clocked with a good shot and get discouraged.

its hard to keep your composure, really hard.

Yea but after you get home 2 things could happen.


You feel bad and feel insulted/disrespected -*(Results in automatic harder trainign for yourself)*

OR

You feel bad and feel like giving up Sad that you didnt do better. *(Results in lost of passion for the sport...going through the motions in training)*

One think Ive heard while talking to the Cruiserweight is. Its best to try to break habits you know deep inside arnt that good.Although they're easy to do. He said say if you are fighting really well.Then when you get tired you will go back to what you were doing. Which most of the time isnt all that good.

one of the strangest - and for me one of the best - feelings in the world is after getting tagged really good or knocked down....is getting back up. the 'yea you hit me, but i aint dead, im still here' feeling is what does it for me.

The biggest thing to do when you are a boxer is start young. So you learn every single counter in boxing...so you have an answer to everything a boxer can throw at you. That is the biggest step...you have to keep gaining and gaining experience because it develops your character and skillset.

The biggest thing to do when you are a boxer is start young. So you learn every single counter in boxing...so you have an answer to everything a boxer can throw at you. That is the biggest step...you have to keep gaining and gaining experience because it develops your character and skillset.

Thats a good thing to doBut alot of people don't start young like 6 -7 and 8 like most huge names..So they need sumthin else other than time...So its those guys who started young, then there are:


1. The God given Talent ones.. or Prodigies. RARE.

2. And the ones who train so much they become good in shorter lengths of time than the normal.

3. The ones that believe in anything...nothing is impossible.


Funny Thing is that 2-3 are just as rare as the First.

Thats a good thing to doBut alot of people don't start young like 6 -7 and 8 like most huge names..So they need sumthin else other than time...So its those guys who started young, then there are:


1. The God given Talent ones.. or Prodigies. RARE.

2. And the ones who train so much they become good in shorter lengths of time than the normal.

3. The ones that believe in anything...nothing is impossible.


Funny Thing is that 2-3 are just as rare as the First.

Have you been involved in sports? The most skillfull athletes are the ones who can blend in athleticism with LEARNED technique. If you expect to be an elite level athlete you need a great team behind you - starting from when you are 9 or 10. Boxing isn't black and white. It isn't just the one who hits harder, it isn't the one who has more speed, the best fighters are the ones who see openings and can EXECUTE. You only get this by starting young and training at a young age so you have experience over everyone.

Have you been involved in sports? The most skillfull athletes are the ones who can blend in athleticism with LEARNED technique. If you expect to be an elite level athlete you need a great team behind you - starting from when you are 9 or 10. Boxing isn't black and white. It isn't just the one who hits harder, it isn't the one who has more speed, the best fighters are the ones who see openings and can EXECUTE. You only get this by starting young and training at a young age so you have experience over everyone.

You're right, boxing isn't black and white. Everything else you're wrong about, because you make it out to be exactly that; black and white.

Being able to see openings and EXECUTE (:ugh: ?) is not something that is dependent on when you start. Some people have it from say one, and some don't. Some people can start at age 20 and just have the eye for it. Some people can train their whole lives, and just not be able to do it.

I agree that starting at an early age will be an advantage in 9 cases out of 10, but it isn't that black and white. It really has to do with talent, and you can't always predict who will have and when. That's part of the beauty of it.

have you had your second fight yet versatile?

have you had your second fight yet versatile?

hmmm There not having anything yet.:thinking: I got happy at first cause they asked if it wanted to fight 4 rounds yesterday,then I realized they thought I was a pro.haha. They keep thinking that.

Have you been involved in sports? The most skillfull athletes are the ones who can blend in athleticism with LEARNED technique. If you expect to be an elite level athlete you need a great team behind you - starting from when you are 9 or 10. Boxing isn't black and white. It isn't just the one who hits harder, it isn't the one who has more speed, the best fighters are the ones who see openings and can EXECUTE. You only get this by starting young and training at a young age so you have experience over everyone.

Dude you're pretty delusional. You dont have to box all your damn life to see **** in boxing. My trainer started boxing at like 19,turned pro at 22. And he became a 2 time world champion,with loses only to elites and future greats or well known ppl.http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=8418&cat=boxer. So dont throw that "you need to start at an early age stuff out. As long as you can pick stuff up quickly and accurately you can prosper in boxing.

Have you been involved in sports? The most skillfull athletes are the ones who can blend in athleticism with LEARNED technique. If you expect to be an elite level athlete you need a great team behind you - starting from when you are 9 or 10. Boxing isn't black and white. It isn't just the one who hits harder, it isn't the one who has more speed, the best fighters are the ones who see openings and can EXECUTE. You only get this by starting young and training at a young age so you have experience over everyone.

Thats great... and yes 9 or 10 years old is an Excellent age to start but they could lose to someone that just picked up the sport 9 years after them.

But theres a greater chance of them still winning because of experience. Thats why I stated that the cases I wrote about were all RARE. But even those positions can be worked towards.

you know what, my shoulder injury has ****ed me up so bad. but i am in the middle of studying. boxing was ALWAYS a place to gain confidence and get a good body as well as learning to fight. It is hard, and you DO get hit in the HEAD.

Studying for a FUTURE - YES
Getting punched in the head - NO

you know what, my shoulder injury has ****ed me up so bad. but i am in the middle of studying. boxing was ALWAYS a place to gain confidence and get a good body as well as learning to fight. It is hard, and you DO get hit in the HEAD.

Studying for a FUTURE - YES
Getting punched in the head - NO


You forgot to add the millions of dollars and women .. NOT to mention the Right to Dominate others and control lives...along with Fame and influence. living on the good side of money with loads of other doors to business ventures waiting for you to open them.

put that right before your NO!.

studying is good too... you could be the next Bill O'rieley or EVEN PRESISDENT BUSH!!

You forgot to add the millions of dollars and women .. NOT to mention the Right to Dominate others and control lives...along with Fame and influence. living on the good side of money with loads of other doors to business ventures waiting for you to open them.

put that right before your NO!.

studying is good too... you could be the next Bill O'rieley or EVEN PRESISDENT BUSH!!

You can get those college students that graduated and hire them.haha. Then you would be the boss of them.haha

Dude you're pretty delusional. You dont have to box all your damn life to see **** in boxing. My trainer started boxing at like 19,turned pro at 22. And he became a 2 time world champion,with loses only to elites and future greats or well known ppl.http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=8418&cat=boxer. So dont throw that "you need to start at an early age stuff out. As long as you can pick stuff up quickly and accurately you can prosper in boxing.

leija is ur trainer??? that's awesome i seen him fight gatti in AC once, and francisco bojado. he is a tough fighter. i didnt know he only started when he was 19, thats pretty cool. i'm a fan!

leija is ur trainer??? that's awesome i seen him fight gatti in AC once, and francisco bojado. he is a tough fighter. i didnt know he only started when he was 19, thats pretty cool. i'm a fan!

Yeah he's my trainer.He's turned me around alot with editing my style for the best. He knows alot of tricks and has fought great ppl.So he knows what he's talking about. Even when I sparred him,he's tricky.

Thats why its best to start early. I wish I would have taken boxing up when I was younger. Back when I was still willing to work hard and focus. Now that Im in College, I find it extremely hard to diet and train everyday, and thats without a job. I'm not sure how I could have juggled school, work, and boxing.

I have a lot of respect for any person who sticks with it. Thats why I hate when people call boxers bums. If they had any idea what it takes just to win one pro fight.

me too imagine guy like Jaun Daiz who studies and is boxing lightweight champion? and the Japanese guy who beaten Martin Castillo on his 8th fight he is only a student too

fuuuuccckkk cup stacking. Most frusterating/stupid thing in the world. Their is more of a chance of me becoming pound 4 pound #1 fighter in the world than me stacking cups like that. For one maybe after 5 minutes wouldnt you realize your wasting time...stacking cups..

as long as theyget some money and enjoy it why not?

Yeah he's my trainer.He's turned me around alot with editing my style for the best. He knows alot of tricks and has fought great ppl.So he knows what he's talking about. Even when I sparred him,he's tricky.

imagine what about the elite fight with there power and tricks the got in there pocket. just tells you you got a long road to become a champion. It nice that you changed trainer to Lejia is he still bald?

me too imagine guy like Jaun Daiz who studies and is boxing lightweight champion? and the Japanese guy who beaten Martin Castillo on his 8th fight he is only a student too



as long as theyget some money and enjoy it why not?



imagine what about the elite fight with there power and tricks the got in there pocket. just tells you you got a long road to become a champion. It nice that you changed trainer to Lejia is he still bald?

He's still bald and Ive fought numerous of pros. I think I'll be sparring the number 1 ranked guy in San Antonio soon. He goes to my gym.http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=7792&cat=boxer If I got a long way to go then so be it. But by the comments at my gym by pros and ppl that know what there talking about.I might not really due to my speed,power and defense. But I'm taking things step by step. No rushing here.

He's still bald and Ive fought numerous of pros. I think I'll be sparring the number 1 ranked guy in San Antonio soon. He goes to my gym.http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=7792&cat=boxer If I got a long way to go then so be it. But by the comments at my gym by pros and ppl that know what there talking about.I might not really due to my speed,power and defense. But I'm taking things step by step. No rushing here.

kinda cool win over Jaun Lazcanio and some top contende loss like Ben Tackie, Vivan Harris, Shane Mosely and Cosmo Rivera.

but he drew Larry Mosely as a revenage :D

Dude you're pretty delusional. You dont have to box all your damn life to see **** in boxing. My trainer started boxing at like 19,turned pro at 22. And he became a 2 time world champion,with loses only to elites and future greats or well known ppl.http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=8418&cat=boxer. So dont throw that "you need to start at an early age stuff out. As long as you can pick stuff up quickly and accurately you can prosper in boxing.

duuude Leija's your trainer? Thats awesome dude hes truly a great warrior and i liked watching his fights. Think you could send me his autograph? lol

duuude Leija's your trainer? Thats awesome dude hes truly a great warrior and i liked watching his fights. Think you could send me his autograph? lol

haha. If you really wanted it sure.He's good friends with Oscar De la Hoya too.

haha. If you really wanted it sure.He's good friends with Oscar De la Hoya too.

it a good thing that you could have access to some world class sparring even spar with Mayweather for his Hatton bout.

Just have to prove him that you could withstand and exceed his expectations.

it a good thing that you could have access to some world class sparring even spar with Mayweather for his Hatton bout.

Just have to prove him that you could withstand and exceed his expectations.

Yeah I know. Thats what Im planning to do. It will be a good year end for me. I can see it. I even had former NBA players look at me spar yesterday.haha. I hope he brings some Spurs or tell them about it. He was impressed.