View Full Version : Hi i have a question for you


kenshin112
07-11-2007, 04:12 PM
Ive just started my boxing training
i just wanted to know is 23 too late to start?

Kenshin :)

kenshin112
07-11-2007, 04:31 PM
anybody.....

LTguy
07-11-2007, 05:14 PM
i think a bit too late to have a good career, but if you are in a good shape- strong, fast and coordinated....

mightymouse2k
07-11-2007, 06:46 PM
no, you should be ok.

K.O
07-11-2007, 07:01 PM
Well i would say no. But what are your goals do you plan on goin Am.??Pro?
if that's the case your gonna need to work reeeeallll hard...if your just doin it to get in good shape, you should be fine, but you still gotta work hard

kenshin112
07-11-2007, 07:19 PM
My goal is to become pro!!!!!! i know it requires a severe amount of training? but how long should it take for me to start getting fights or does that all depend on the boxing club?
and any other advice you could tell me
I personally think 23 isnt too late, but the amount of training required is alot more than the 17-18 y/os, and other than the general boxing training what else is there that i can do?

kcpalm
07-12-2007, 04:59 PM
get off this website and start working until you die!!!!!!!

Cuauhtémoc1502
07-12-2007, 05:35 PM
Age is a number man, it all depends on your mind. If you tell yourself you are too old then you are. I'm 35 and ben doing this since I was about 12 years old. I don't fight amature no more (obviously) but I spar with guys your age and teach them a lesson most of the time. I will be doing this until I cant no more.

My gyms trainer is in his mid 40's and he can kick some serious ass. If you want to go pro you just have to work hard at it until your technique catches up with you. Some guys take longer than others, who knows you might be a natural. 23 is very young, your still a kid.

SpeedKillz
07-12-2007, 05:39 PM
My goal is to become pro!!!!!! i know it requires a severe amount of training? but how long should it take for me to start getting fights or does that all depend on the boxing club?
and any other advice you could tell me
I personally think 23 isnt too late, but the amount of training required is alot more than the 17-18 y/os, and other than the general boxing training what else is there that i can do?

23 isnt too late to start fighting, or even turn pro, but it depends on how good of a pro u think ur gonna be. ur gonna have to train ALOT day in and day out and put in long hard hours at the gym, and the days u think u need rest, u push thru it, until ur body physically "shuts down" and u have to rest. u gotta go all out all the time. there is ALOT ALOT ALOT to learn in the sport and in order to step in the pro ring and not get killed, u gotta work harder and be more disciplined than u ever have. u have to work on conditioning and skill work as much as possible, spar as much as possible, and get a good ass trainer and devote urself to him so u get one on one training. i wouldnt train skill work alone cuz u'll develop bad habits. til u get to a gym, u should:

RUN - long distance
RUN - intervals
RUN - sprints
jump rope
pushups (lots)
pullups (lots)
situps (....LOTS)
RUN
RUN
RUN
RUN
RUN

get into great shape and condition so u can have a stepping stone when u get into the gym so the trainer sees u r there to learn and not jus some recreational guy gettin a workout. u gota long hard road ahead of u my friend, but get past the speed bumps and the rewards are endless. good luck bro...

kenshin112
07-12-2007, 07:20 PM
God bless you
Thanks for the answers
yeah i know i should get off this site and do some serious ass training~
Running day in day out is what im doing, hurts serious, but as you said
after putting yourself through this the rewards will be endless

Thanks Speedkillz
and cuauhtemoc1496

Its never easy to train 7 days a week
but if u dont try ull never know, i just gotta put my ass into it and be devoted and even when i get tired push in till im at the last hurdle am i right or am i right

No1
07-12-2007, 09:07 PM
God bless you
Thanks for the answers
yeah i know i should get off this site and do some serious ass training~
Running day in day out is what im doing, hurts serious, but as you said
after putting yourself through this the rewards will be endless

Thanks Speedkillz
and cuauhtemoc1496

Its never easy to train 7 days a week
but if u dont try ull never know, i just gotta put my ass into it and be devoted and even when i get tired push in till im at the last hurdle am i right or am i right
Your wrong!


lol no seriously as said before train like a ***** hard and long everyday and eventually you may or maynot get there, but even if you dnt you'll have one killer six pack for a consolation prize.

kcpalm
07-13-2007, 12:25 AM
best of luck man!!!!! you can become pro if you just put your mind to it and work!!! don't stop!!

kenshin112
07-13-2007, 08:32 AM
wow no1 so negative aint you
thanks for the heads up though to everyone

nedcmk1
07-13-2007, 12:55 PM
you can do anything you want.

be careful not to overtrain. 7 days youll overtrain, get fatigued, be prone to injury. overtraining can be very detrimental. and youll end up missing weeks of training to recuperate instead of training smart.

here are the causes of overtraining:

* Microtrauma to the muscles are created faster than the body can heal them.
* Amino acids are used up faster than they are supplied in the diet. This is sometimes called "protein deficiency".
* The body becomes calorie-deficient and the rate of break down of muscle tissue increases.
* Levels of cortisol (the "stress" hormone) are elevated for long periods of time.
* The body spends more time in a catabolic state than an anabolic state (perhaps as a result of elevated cortisol levels).

and here is the symtoms:

* Persistent muscle soreness (Delayed onset muscle soreness)
* Persistent fatigue
* Elevated resting heart rate
* Increased susceptibility to infections
* Increased incidence of injuries
* Irritability
* Depression
* Loss of motivation
* Insomnia
* Decreased appetite
* Decreased sexual performance
* Weight loss

and some cures.....

Allowing more time for the body to recover:

* Taking a break from training to allow time for recovery.
* Reducing the volume and/or the intensity of the training.
* Suitable periodization of training.
* Splitting the training program so that different sets of muscles are worked on different days.

Changing diet:

* Ensuring that calorie intake at least matches expenditure.
* Ensuring total calories are from a suitable macronutrient ratio.
* Addressing vitamin deficiencies with nutritional supplements.


although i haven't competed boxing yet, i have competed a lot in wrestling and sub grappling. I have overtrained before and seriously hurt my training, and also injured myself (torn abdominal muscle).

im in the same boat as you. although 27 i am going to start boxing competitively. on an ammy level though, not pro. my goal is to show up for the NYC Metros and Golden Gloves and compete. win? who knows, a long shot. but i just want to fight. you can do as yu please, dont let anyone discourage you.

train smart.

kenshin112
07-13-2007, 06:52 PM
you can do anything you want.

be careful not to overtrain. 7 days youll overtrain, get fatigued, be prone to injury. overtraining can be very detrimental. and youll end up missing weeks of training to recuperate instead of training smart.

here are the causes of overtraining:

* Microtrauma to the muscles are created faster than the body can heal them.
* Amino acids are used up faster than they are supplied in the diet. This is sometimes called "protein deficiency".
* The body becomes calorie-deficient and the rate of break down of muscle tissue increases.
* Levels of cortisol (the "stress" hormone) are elevated for long periods of time.
* The body spends more time in a catabolic state than an anabolic state (perhaps as a result of elevated cortisol levels).

and here is the symtoms:

* Persistent muscle soreness (Delayed onset muscle soreness)
* Persistent fatigue
* Elevated resting heart rate
* Increased susceptibility to infections
* Increased incidence of injuries
* Irritability
* Depression
* Loss of motivation
* Insomnia
* Decreased appetite
* Decreased sexual performance
* Weight loss

and some cures.....

Allowing more time for the body to recover:

* Taking a break from training to allow time for recovery.
* Reducing the volume and/or the intensity of the training.
* Suitable periodization of training.
* Splitting the training program so that different sets of muscles are worked on different days.

Changing diet:

* Ensuring that calorie intake at least matches expenditure.
* Ensuring total calories are from a suitable macronutrient ratio.
* Addressing vitamin deficiencies with nutritional supplements.


although i haven't competed boxing yet, i have competed a lot in wrestling and sub grappling. I have overtrained before and seriously hurt my training, and also injured myself (torn abdominal muscle).

im in the same boat as you. although 27 i am going to start boxing competitively. on an ammy level though, not pro. my goal is to show up for the NYC Metros and Golden Gloves and compete. win? who knows, a long shot. but i just want to fight. you can do as yu please, dont let anyone discourage you.

train smart.



wishing you the best of luck with the nyc metros and the golden gloves, hopefully if u win i might be able to see you on ppv some day :) thanks for the info, i wont over train ill train smart as you've said, is there anything else i could do? i wanted to ask if someone cant skip properly whats the best thing to do???????

ryu89
07-13-2007, 07:21 PM
but i work out 7 days a week -_-


it going great

kenshin112
07-15-2007, 07:32 AM
i wanted to ask if someone cant skip properly whats the best thing to do???????
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SpeedKillz
07-15-2007, 10:27 AM
i wanted to ask if someone cant skip properly whats the best thing to do???????
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learn to skip!!

if u cant get the rope down, do what my coach calls invisible jump rope. pretend u have a rope in ur hands and ur swingin it under ur feet and jump up and down as u would if the rope was goin under u and u will learn the balance and technique to jumping properly, then add the rope. go slowly at first and u'll see it will come in no time.

kenshin112
07-15-2007, 04:11 PM
yeah that seemed like a good idea invisible skipping i will try it and see how long it takes to be able to do the jump rope properly :)
thanks man

kenshin112
08-01-2007, 01:35 PM
well current progress
Im training very hard and dieting right
after 3 weeks ive lost close to 26lbs
running does pay off
and those long sparring sessions with my friends who already train at a
boxing gym
still got along way to go

One more
08-02-2007, 04:29 AM
Man, you're lucky you have a sparring partner that has some experience. I just started too and I'm 24. Going to my 3rd session at the gym tomorrow (I only get to go twice a week and workout on the other days). The coach won't let me spar yet, but that's cuz i have a LOT of work to do before I can do anything without creating bad habits. Conditioning is a B@#$@ for reals! ...but it feels so good afterwards.

kenshin112
08-03-2007, 04:56 PM
Man, you're lucky you have a sparring partner that has some experience. I just started too and I'm 24. Going to my 3rd session at the gym tomorrow (I only get to go twice a week and workout on the other days). The coach won't let me spar yet, but that's cuz i have a LOT of work to do before I can do anything without creating bad habits. Conditioning is a B@#$@ for reals! ...but it feels so good afterwards.



keep with it bro and afterwards you'll feel you've achieved something nobody can take away from you :) just go at it hard, cos the rewards are beyond measure, best of luck lad

skyler
08-04-2007, 09:40 AM
My goal is to become pro!!!!!! i know it requires a severe amount of training? but how long should it take for me to start getting fights or does that all depend on the boxing club?
and any other advice you could tell me
I personally think 23 isnt too late, but the amount of training required is alot more than the 17-18 y/os, and other than the general boxing training what else is there that i can do?

Well how the gym im at works is we got a regular boxing class, which is just routine training and sometimes some light sparring, once the trainers there think your good enough you move upto the Amateur classes, which can take awhile since i got in the Am's after about 4 months when there has been some guys in the regular class who have been there for almost 8 months..

And its a huge step up from the regular boxing class to the Amateur class, the regular class is 4 days a week 1 hour classes, and the Amateur is 6 days a week and can go aslong as 2-5 hours (we got a real crazy cuban coach who decides if we can go home or not lol), and after about 2 months you will probably be given your first am fight.

You cant expect to turn pro in a few months and be good, you have to work your way up or your just going to get blasted away boxing takes time and dedication.. honestly in my opinion 23 can be to late for any average guy hoping to become a world champion unless your training flat out and have some talent.

msagrain
08-04-2007, 10:31 AM
Ive just started my boxing training
i just wanted to know is 23 too late to start?

Kenshin :)

no it isnt to late but look at your options so you really think you become in the top 10 ranking in youir weight devisions ?
because thays were all the moneys at if you want to be a serious pro you need to train 6 hours a dayand do it full time but you have to sacrfice your job and might even gaet paid less lets say yu in a title fight for an american belt or state belt or whatever they are over there id say 10k dollas max for the fight and that if you even make it to the title fight evry other fight is like $3000 so say you have 4 fight a year that like 12 k at year not rtelly good is it is it worth it?
do you think yougood engouth to get anywere? you really need to think about it. or is it just a dream that you know will never become true

FISTIC ART
08-08-2007, 04:34 AM
Anything u put ur mind too u can do..... but 23 is very late in boxing terms.....

xploda11
08-08-2007, 06:49 AM
it's bad but not THAT bad, you better just hope your a fast learner

flowda king
08-09-2007, 01:03 PM
naw 23 isnt to late if you have the heart and determination you can be good its goning to take alot of fights in a short period of time tho to get some ring experience under your belt i suggest at least 30 amateur fights shouldnt take dat long.

kenshin112
08-22-2007, 05:05 PM
ive lost a further 18 pounds since my last post
training is spectacular
diet is working a treat
sparring is next level

kenshin112
09-17-2007, 03:33 PM
my diets kicking in so well now
can see faint abs
muscles are growing
running sh*tloads
legs are in shape
having my 1st fight for the gym mid october time :)

Rampage*
09-17-2007, 06:46 PM
in short, no

kenshin112
09-18-2007, 02:13 PM
cheers for the confidence booster mate
but right now your words mean nothing
only person in this world right now who can tell me i aint good enough
is my trainer and so far hes impressed with what he sees
but thanx anyway dude

Rane-Ex54
09-18-2007, 03:35 PM
i think its a bunch BS, people saying that a 23 year old is to old to start and turn pro & be something. That's rediculous, everbody is diff, if talent is there, its there... training, getting a handle of everything, and experience is all that takes time....but not 20 years. Good Luck Bro I hope you beat up some dude who's been boxing since he was 1. haha