I'm open to all advice. I'm rematching this guy in my next fight. My plan is basically to start with the jab more as I come in, and jab out after each combo, and move my head a bit more. This is my new plan. Watch this fight and tell me your ideas.

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Which one are you, the white kid I assume? Both of you look very impressive if you only have 9 fights. Very impressive. :)

If you're the white kid, I'd say wait a while before you rematch him. It's very rarely a good idea to jump right in there with a guy you just lost to in your last fight. Learn some stuff, get to another level of skills before you try again, or else you'll most likely lose again.

In this particular case, he's quite simply a little too skilled. You can't fight him at a distance, because he's faster than you, and has a better eye, which means that he can counter you when you open, but you can't counter him when he opens. So you try to get inside and rough him up, but he's faster and gets off first in there as well, and then he ties you up. Sometimes it's even you who has to tie up, becaues you can't control him, and you try to slow him down by holding. Problem is, you don't get your punches off.
I honestly don't see you getting a win over this kid in the near future. Sorry...

what is the other guy like?

Damn I don't know.....I will admit I only watched the first and last round but he is a sneaky lil ****er and fast too.He might just have the style to beat you more often than not unless you can figure out a way to be more effective on the inside......you're certainly not going to beat him in the middle of the ring just boxing.I agree with what the first reply said....unless you think you can hurt him and can adjust quickly you should'nt fight him again right away.

Amature fights are about punch volume, nothing more. It doesnt matter if they are hard punches, you just have to touch him. A constant output of pittypats will beat just about anyone in the amatures.

Amature fights are about punch volume, nothing more. It doesnt matter if they are hard punches, you just have to touch him. A constant output of pittypats will beat just about anyone in the amatures.

Not true. Go see some international tournaments. The judging has definitely changed compared to the last few years. There's much more an emphasis on power punching right now. Light punches just doesn't score anymore.

How long have you been fighting?


And about the amateur fighting, is that true here in the states as well? Or just overseas?

How long have you been fighting?


And about the amateur fighting, is that true here in the states as well? Or just overseas?

They're supposed to follow the same scoring guidelines in all amateur boxing, but of course there are differences in interpretation. In short, it differs from place to place, and even event to event.
But saying that it's pittypat volume punching is grossly inaccurate.

There's a new scoring system being discussed by the way, and a possible change back to 3x3min rounds instead of 4x2min.

I started boxing in 1986, age 13, if you were asking me?

Only possible way you could beat him in your next fight is if you happen to be alot stronger than him and scare him with your power, to do that you would have to sitback tighten your defense and look for opportunities to let some bombs go..He throws wide wild hooks work on countering those and maybe you have a thin chance of rocking him and gaining enough of a mental edge on him to win, Also practise working on the inside you did ok on the inside but then would keep your hands too low and get caught..Work on getting inside when he throws the wild hooks and practise getting in and out clean during sparring. You could fight him again in your next fight and try this but i think its a long shot.

I say its a long shot because he is much faster than you, has a very decent jab, is sharper than you and has a better defence than you..
To be honest i cant see you beating him anytime soon, go back to the gym learn more and make it a target to acquire skills good enough to beat him later in your career.
How many fights has the other guy had as he looks really good?
You're not going to acquire the speed, accuracy and defense to beat this guy within the next month..The only way you could beat him in your next fight IMO is if you could pull off what i mentioned above, but it's a long shot.

i will say u look damn good man. if u fight him again, move ur head ALOT and jab ur way inside, cut the ring off and try and get him on the ropes and rip the body up. his hands are low too, if ur fast enough, shoot some right hand leads at him make him be defensive and then feint some rights and try and shoot a left hook to knock him off balance then rush him in a corner and jus rip the body. gotta take his legs away. u look good though. good luck in the rematch.

I like the fight.. nice action.

If us boxers would only realize how CATASTROPHIC the Jab really is....

We'd own all the other sports....

Like the Coach said he's faster on the outside.. jabbing/slipping would be a must I think.. he throws more accurately and moves around good...

impose some power on him..get that jab to be like a jack hammer. you lookn good though.. just think this kid might have you right now... its not impossible for you to win in the rematch though if ya add a few weapons.



*The One Catastrophe*

Nice job. Sorry you didn't get the win but you did well against a tough opponent. He looked good in this fight but I don't think he was necessarily out of your league or anything. What's your gameplan for the rematch? Also, what weight class are you?

You need to throw a lot more body punches, he can get countered easily in the body, you can catch him while he's breathing and really tire him out, be versatile and punish his body while you're clinching...He can't run away from body punches...

I'm open to all advice. I'm rematching this guy in my next fight. My plan is basically to start with the jab more as I come in, and jab out after each combo, and move my head a bit more. This is my new plan. Watch this fight and tell me your ideas.

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first try to dictate the fight with distance and your jab and movement.. if that dont work you have to outwork him jab in and out headmovent and out work him like u said...

Im telling you, swarming is the most effective style in amature boxing.
I have seen people box the pants off of sombody and still lose because the person they were fighting through punches every second of every round.

You dont get points for ring generalship (retarded) or for dominance and looking good. You get points for connected legal blows.

They dont have to be hard blows, they dont have to be crisp, they dont have to hurt, they just need to connect.

You get 1 point for a body shot, 1 point for a headshot, 1 point for a knockdown, 1 point for a jab, 1 point for a hard right hand.

Every punch counts the same. Scoring a knockdown is the same as landing a jab.

As hard a concept as it is to grasp, Amature boxing isnt really fighting. Its a game. You need to play within the rules and work the scoring system to your advantage.

Its all about how many times you touch them, not how hard you touch them.

Another general rule of thumb for amature boxing is; the judges dont see anything you do when you are against the ropes. For all intents and purposes, you are invisible. They are busy counting the punches of the guy unloading a flurry on you instead of counting your short counter-punches.

Obviously you need to throw actual punches, but its best to keep them light and your work rate high.

I'm open to all advice. I'm rematching this guy in my next fight. My plan is basically to start with the jab more as I come in, and jab out after each combo, and move my head a bit more. This is my new plan. Watch this fight and tell me your ideas.

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This biggest thing I noticed was a lack of a consistent jab or your part, you looked like if you jab went to the body with the left before throwing the hook you would be in a better position to hit dude, to me it looked like your were punching "over" him if you understand what I mean

Man some of you let me down. Look at this:

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I'm telling you guys...my handspeed is good. Let me explain some things.

1) I had a flu 2 days after that fight. Total body shutdown. I think I was already being affected by that in the fight.

2) Also, I weighed in at 143 and for the next fight I am coming in at 145-146 to have more freshness to me.

I know that with timing, a jab, and more head movement...I can beat this guy. My brother knocked him out 3 years ago. He has 20 fights but I can beat him. He is a bit faster than me but mainly I am just easier to hit thanh im and he uses his arm length whereas I like to fight inside. He is smalle than me and he admitted to my trainer that I almost KOd him. I can beat this guy.

Let you down? I think most people in here gave you their honest evaluation of your chances in an immediate rematch, I know I did. Don't ask for people's opinions, if you can't handle them.

Oh, be sure to post the rematch, win or lose. If you lose, expect a few "I told you so's" from people. (that should motivate you to win, I'd think ;))

P.S. What are we looking at in the video above?

You are looking at the fact that I can do different things. Lookie here, I am a man. Men can change. I don't hear all this negativity. I need to hear advice on CHANGE to make to beat this guy, even if you still think I will lose there should be advice out there for me to do better, yeah?

That's what I want to hear.

You are looking at the fact that I can do different things. Lookie here, I am a man. Men can change. I don't hear all this negativity. I need to hear advice on CHANGE to make to beat this guy, even if you still think I will lose there should be advice out there for me to do better, yeah?

That's what I want to hear.

So that's you in another fight? Frankly, I don't see much difference, except for the guy fighting you.

If you actually READ what was said to you, it was advice. Advice that you probably won't be able to make the kind of changes you need to beat this guy in an immediate rematch, since he's got too many advantages right now. Get a few more fights (or 10 rather) under your belt, and then have another go at him.
The changes you need to make are not the kind you can make overnight. It'll take a long ass time for you to improve enough to beat this guy. Why? Because he's just a little better than you in all departments. He's got you beat on the outside, on the inside, going into clinches, coming out of clinches, heck even punch output (which is the only real improvement you can realistically make if you're fighting him again soon).

What you WANT to hear is not always what you NEED to hear. Remember that.

By the way, when is the rematch? Looking forward to seeing the video.

That was a good match, both of you guys are very skilled. He seems faster then you and has more polish. He is more free swinging and wild but he does it with skill and pizazz (if that's a word). Work on your jab. You got to get that thing like a piston then you can work on him inside.

Overall, all you gotta do is get better. Im sure your coach can figure out a gameplan to beat this kid and all you have to do is keep improving and working on your skills. If you work hard, the rest will take care of itself.

whats ur record

I am 5-4 now. I had won 4 fights in a row until this fight. I do not know how much longer I will be boxing so I don't necessarily have 10 fights to improve for this guy. I know I can beat him though. However, next fight was just pushed back to Sept 8th and it is in Pritchard, Alabama and I do not know if this kid is going to that one. We'll see.

Thanks.

Well, good luck. IF you do fight that kid again, you'll need to be in the shape of your life, so you can let your hands go all fight. Never let him, wear him down. And use a lot more jabs.

Try feinting to have him throw first, so you can slip and counter. Takes a lot of practice though...

u need to work on your head movement if your going to be the aggressor, and cut off the ring a lot more make him feel pressure because mentally it might affect him if he feels he cant avoid being trapped. Depending on how well you move he might tire himself in a effort to get free. If you dont cut the ring off he feels safe and can just bounce around and take it easy because he know hes got a lot of ways to go to get out of trouble.