Have any of you ever used legal steroids? I'm thinking of using D-Bol. Anyone think it would work?
http://www.legalsteroids.com/d-bol.html
http://www.bulking-cutting.com/Dianabol.html

I see all these people looking for shortcuts and it makes me laugh..

You want to be a ****ing Boxer? Do you really? You have to ****ing earn it

I don't know what you mean by legal? They're definitely not legal in amateur boxing or other amateur sports.

They are not legal.

I posted on my experience with Dianabol. Use the search function.

boo to steroids!! boooo!

arent those things hella hard on your liver?

if u do want to use a steroid i'd recommend stanozolol, though unfortunately it's pretty expensive. This steroid is derived from testosterone, and its unique in the way that it has way more anabolic effects than androgenic effects (masculating effects) meaning that unless u take it long-term the chances of getting the common dreaded side effects such as breat enlargement or ball shrinking is quite rare. Another reason for this is because it blocks estrogen receptors making it impossible for ur estrogen levels to rise. This is the stuff that Ben Johnson used to achieve his sprints, and Barry Bonds has been accused of using this stuff. It doesen't add much weight in comparison to the solid muscle and strength you will get.The downside is that since its good, its expensive, and also that since its altered testosterone and not synthetic testosterone like other steroids, the liver has never seen it before giving it a high liver toxicity. This won't be a problem in the short-term use however long term use of this isn't recommended. The only reason I would ever use this stuff would be due to prolonged injury, example: Why sit around injured for 6 months if u could take this stuff and be back in 2 months

Have any of you ever used legal steroids? I'm thinking of using D-Bol. Anyone think it would work?
http://www.legalsteroids.com/d-bol.html
http://www.bulking-cutting.com/Dianabol.html




The only "legal" steroids you can get are available from your physician by prescription.

Dont do em, you'll regret it later, plus all those are bogus.

Don't do it, they're just not worth it. Here some quick information I found:

The major side effects from abusing anabolic steroids can include liver tumors and cancer, jaundice (yellowish pigmentation of skin, tissues, and body fluids), fluid retention, high blood pressure, increases in LDL (bad cholesterol), and decreases in HDL (good cholesterol). Other side effects include kidney tumors, severe acne, and trembling. In addition, there are some gender-specific side effects:

For men, shrinking of the testicles, reduced sperm count, infertility, baldness, development of breasts, increased risk for prostate cancer.

For adolescents-growth halted prematurely through premature skeletal maturation and accelerated puberty changes. This means that adolescents risk remaining short for the remainder of their lives if they take anabolic steroids before the typical adolescent growth spurt.

In addition, people who inject anabolic steroids run the added risk of contracting or transmitting HIV/AIDS or hepatitis, which causes serious damage to the liver.

Scientific research also shows that aggression and other psychiatric side effects may result from abuse of anabolic steroids. Many users report feeling good about themselves while on anabolic steroids, but researchers report that extreme mood swings also can occur, including manic-like symptoms leading to violence. Depression often is seen when the drugs are stopped and may contribute to dependence on anabolic steroids. Researchers report also that users may suffer from paranoid jealousy, extreme irritability, delusions, and impaired judgment stemming from feelings of invincibility.

Don't do it, they're just not worth it. Here some quick information I found:

The major side effects from abusing anabolic steroids can include liver tumors and cancer, jaundice (yellowish pigmentation of skin, tissues, and body fluids), fluid retention, high blood pressure, increases in LDL (bad cholesterol), and decreases in HDL (good cholesterol). Other side effects include kidney tumors, severe acne, and trembling. In addition, there are some gender-specific side effects:

For men, shrinking of the testicles, reduced sperm count, infertility, baldness, development of breasts, increased risk for prostate cancer.

For adolescents-growth halted prematurely through premature skeletal maturation and accelerated puberty changes. This means that adolescents risk remaining short for the remainder of their lives if they take anabolic steroids before the typical adolescent growth spurt.

In addition, people who inject anabolic steroids run the added risk of contracting or transmitting HIV/AIDS or hepatitis, which causes serious damage to the liver.

Scientific research also shows that aggression and other psychiatric side effects may result from abuse of anabolic steroids. Many users report feeling good about themselves while on anabolic steroids, but researchers report that extreme mood swings also can occur, including manic-like symptoms leading to violence. Depression often is seen when the drugs are stopped and may contribute to dependence on anabolic steroids. Researchers report also that users may suffer from paranoid jealousy, extreme irritability, delusions, and impaired judgment stemming from feelings of invincibility.

just don't abuse them

If you use them your life expectancy will shorten. Enough said. There will be people who will tell you that you can get away with it without health defects, don't listen to them. Any steriod that works well is causing a sudden and heavy shock to the chemical composition of your body, there will be serious health defects.

If you use them your life expectancy will shorten. Enough said. There will be people who will tell you that you can get away with it without health defects, don't listen to them. Any steriod that works well is causing a sudden and heavy shock to the chemical composition of your body, there will be serious health defects.

steroids have been used for a long time for theraputic healing purposes and have been fine. Using steroids the way bodybuilders use them is abuse and is dangerous. anabolic steroids have been used for decades for medicinal usage and have rarely caused permenant damage with proper dosage and no long term-abuse.

the reason your balls shrink on roids is because your body senses that there is too much testosterone in your system, so it attempts to compensate by reducing testosterone output. It does this by reducing the mass of the testosterone secreting glands a.k.a. your testicles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steroid

the reason your balls shrink on roids is because your body senses that there is too much testosterone in your system, so it attempts to compensate by reducing testosterone output. It does this by reducing the mass of the testosterone secreting glands a.k.a. your testicles.

exactly!, learned that **** in bio 12.

steroids have been used for a long time for theraputic healing purposes and have been fine. Using steroids the way bodybuilders use them is abuse and is dangerous. anabolic steroids have been used for decades for medicinal usage and have rarely caused permenant damage with proper dosage and no long term-abuse.

For medicinal purposes. That requires you to be sick or have some defect, where the lesser of two evils is to take a drug that has a desired effect on your ailment. Medicine always has side effects though, and that is why you ONLY use them when you HAVE TO.

This is why stronger medicines like that aren't over the counter, but require a prescription. I mean, would you use opium for your own pleasure, and then refer to the fact that sick people sometimes have to use it as justification?
Using medicine when your not sick IS abuse.


Maybe you should go stimulate yourself with some electro shock. They use that on people who go into cardiac arrest. Must be quite harmless. :banana:

Here. (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2439168&postcount=9) My story and its effects.

Don't do it. It's the ***** way out. Eat right, work hard. You'll be happier with yourself.

Steroids shrink your dick...Stick with whey protein and creatine

I wanna build my body up. So I can **** up all those bullying pricks that harass me daily.

I really wouldn't use steriods at all. I'm a little bias because I don't even believe in supplements but I would stay away from steriods. Especially for a boxer you'll lose speed and it will wind up doing more harm than good.

Using steroids runs contrary to everything that being a boxer is about. Boxing is about EARNING IT. It is about ENDURING. It is about overcoming pain, and hunger, and fatigue, and fear -- hell, you have to overcome your most basic animal instincts when those instincts scream at you to NOT step through the ropes because that guy in there intends to hurt you.

If you don't have the guts and the courage and the strength of will to make your body strong naturally -- which, seriously, is the EASIEST part of this sport -- what the hell kind of boxer do you think you'll make?

This is not a game about shortcuts.

**** shortcuts and **** steroids. Lift. Run. Train. Eat. Suffer.

Earn it.

I really wouldn't use steriods at all. I'm a little bias because I don't even believe in supplements but I would stay away from steriods. Especially for a boxer you'll lose speed and it will wind up doing more harm than good.

I'm all with you, but giving false reasons for why you shouldn't do something does more harm than good. Steroids will NOT make you lose speed. On the contrary. You think Ben Johnson would have used steroids to help him become the fastest man in the world at the time? Or how about Roy Jones, was he slow in his prime? Both known steroid users, who tested positive.

There are enough good reasons to stay away from steroids, so don't make up false ones.

I'm all with you, but giving false reasons for why you shouldn't do something does more harm than good. Steroids will NOT make you lose speed. On the contrary. You think Ben Johnson would have used steroids to help him become the fastest man in the world at the time? Or how about Roy Jones, was he slow in his prime? Both known steroid users, who tested positive.

There are enough good reasons to stay away from steroids, so don't make up false ones.
I'm not saying either side is right, but I don't like this argument...First of all, you're assuming that all steroids are equal(unless Johnson and Jones took the same stuff).

Second, a sprinter's speed is not the same kind of speed a boxer has.

And third, just because RJJ was fast on steroids, doesn't mean the steroids didn't make him slower. Unless of course you know when in his career he began using steroids and you have compared his speed in the different fights.

But I'm definitely NOT arguing in favor of steroids.

Steroids work.

I don't condone their use (see my post above (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2493601&postcount=22)) but they DO work. They would make a boxer bigger, stronger, meaner, and -- to some degree, depending how much muscle mass he added -- faster. It is possible to pump up to the point where you are losing handspeed, flexibility, and endurance, but it would be a simple matter to train back down, boxing being an immensely catabolic activity.

The gains from anabolic steroids do not stay with you. When I was using steroids, I lost about half my gains in the amount of time it took me to gain them, and it started immediately after I finished each cycle. Six weeks to gain, six weeks to lose about half of it.

Again, I am NOT condoning steroid use. It's a ***** way out of a dilemma that is supposed to make a man out of you.

Again, I am NOT condoning steroid use. It's a ***** way out of a dilemma that is supposed to make a man out of you.

That is the best steroid quote I have ever read. Cheating is the ***** way out.

Thanks all for the input. My friend is the one who was trying to talk me into using it but I dont think I will.... It isn't worth the side effects. I currently dont box so just letting ya'll know that.

I'm not saying either side is right, but I don't like this argument...First of all, you're assuming that all steroids are equal(unless Johnson and Jones took the same stuff).

Second, a sprinter's speed is not the same kind of speed a boxer has.

And third, just because RJJ was fast on steroids, doesn't mean the steroids didn't make him slower. Unless of course you know when in his career he began using steroids and you have compared his speed in the different fights.

But I'm definitely NOT arguing in favor of steroids.

Those weren't arguments really. Just down to earth examples.

As for the "sprinter's speed is not the same kind of speed a boxer has" claim, you're flat out wrong. There's no physiological difference between the explosiveness of a sprinter and the explosiveness of a boxer. It is used to do different things, but the physiological part, which is what steroids influence, is the same.

Steroids help you get stronger. Explosiveness is a direct relation to strength, ie. the higher strength, the higher potential for explosiveness. Therefore steroid use will ENHANCE speed. Hence the steroid use of before mentioned athletes, among many many others in sports that require speed.

Why?

Why would you use them?

Ask yourself these qiestions....

#1. are your workouts absolutely as close to perfect as possible?

#2. Is you diet PERFECT

#3. Haveyou reached your absolute highest genetic potential? has your body got to the point where it cannot grow stronger anymore?


If you answer no to any of those dont even consider it yet.

How much research have you done?

if u do want to use a steroid i'd recommend stanozolol, though unfortunately it's pretty expensive. This steroid is derived from testosterone, and its unique in the way that it has way more anabolic effects than androgenic effects (masculating effects) meaning that unless u take it long-term the chances of getting the common dreaded side effects such as breat enlargement or ball shrinking is quite rare. Another reason for this is because it blocks estrogen receptors making it impossible for ur estrogen levels to rise. This is the stuff that Ben Johnson used to achieve his sprints, and Barry Bonds has been accused of using this stuff. It doesen't add much weight in comparison to the solid muscle and strength you will get.The downside is that since its good, its expensive, and also that since its altered testosterone and not synthetic testosterone like other steroids, the liver has never seen it before giving it a high liver toxicity. This won't be a problem in the short-term use however long term use of this isn't recommended. The only reason I would ever use this stuff would be due to prolonged injury, example: Why sit around injured for 6 months if u could take this stuff and be back in 2 months
this is awful advice. This **** stanozolol (winny,winstrol) is HORRIBLE on your joints. It dries out your joints. This is the WORST thing for a bozer to take. If you do it you have to do it with a testosterone to keep the joints lubed up. If you take test you need to take an anti estrogen. And for all the ***s who are gonna blow me up on steroid ****. I am educated not a juice head.. Hope this helps.

this is awful advice. This **** stanozolol (winny,winstrol) is HORRIBLE on your joints. It dries out your joints. This is the WORST thing for a bozer to take. If you do it you have to do it with a testosterone to keep the joints lubed up. If you take test you need to take an anti estrogen. And for all the ***s who are gonna blow me up on steroid ****. I am educated not a juice head.. Hope this helps.

yeah that is an effect some people have experienced, which would be a problem. Once u get to that point though ur ****in with all sorts of ****. Only reason I would ever take this stuff is if i had a serious prolonged injury. I would take therapeutic doses and only take it short-term.

Well.... Steroids can definitely do a bit of harm. A lot of people are just replying out of there ass. Some guys here know what there talking about, to a degree. Steroids, like all other medicines, have effects, and side effects. There are so many different steroids out there these days it is almost impossible to really answer your question without a certain compound.

would never encourage someone to take steroids, and your friend probably is less than educated on the subject. My advice to you would be to do some research, find out about all the effects, and draw your own conclusions. I'm gonna assume your probably pretty young and really you don't need roids. If anything take some creatine, some whey protein, and a product called Z Force by Dymatize. Z Force is a natural anabolic compound that contains Tribulus Terrestis, L- Dopa, and Vulgare. As well as LPC and NAC which would be beneficial to your liver. Its only ten bucks on most websites and will give you a little push without harming you. Good luck