View Full Version : Damn Tyson is looking good...Update
spinksjinx 10-18-2004, 02:17 PM Here is an update from Mike Tyson, I believe it speaks for itself.
http://img99.exs.cx/img99/3944/r1321945283.jpg
That is a current photo and Tyson says he is doing strictly plyometrics and is down to about 215 :eek:
Not that I am saying he is going to come back and beat that ass like he did back in the 80's but atleast he has dropped the bodybuilding bs and wont be likely to injure himself time and time again....
Good to see him in shape now because before this was disturbing as a fighter....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/spinksjinx/miketyson1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/spinksjinx/tyson01.jpg
tikal 10-18-2004, 02:26 PM The King is back!!! He is going to avenge his loss to Danny Williams, then go on and grab a belt or two.
spinksjinx 10-18-2004, 02:34 PM The King is back!!! He is going to avenge his loss to Danny Williams, then go on and grab a belt or two.
Dont be disappointed.
jabsRstiff 10-18-2004, 02:36 PM He's doing PLYOMETRICS ?
I thought he f*cked his knee up ?
Plyometrics are all explosive jumps....medicine ball usage.
Hard to believe his knee was that bad if he is now doing plyometrics.
spinksjinx 10-18-2004, 02:38 PM He's doing PLYOMETRICS ?
I thought he f*cked his knee up ?
Plyometrics are all explosive jumps....medicine ball usage.
Hard to believe his knee was that bad if he is now doing plyometrics.
God and the wonderful world of boxing politics..Hmmmmm
Good point, I dont see how a man could jump when just 2-3 months prior was in a wheel chair with a cast....
Who knows....He does look a lot trimmer though.....
abdiel2k3 10-18-2004, 02:39 PM He's doing PLYOMETRICS ?
I thought he f*cked his knee up ?
Plyometrics are all explosive jumps....medicine ball usage.
Hard to believe his knee was that bad if he is now doing plyometrics.
idk what polynomials are :o
but if that is what they are
there needs to be some explanation on his part
how could he be doing that type of stuff if he really damaged his knee as bad as they said when he tore a ligament
mic573 10-18-2004, 02:49 PM I hope he is in great shape so maybe we won't hear the Tyson faithful make excuses when he dissapoints them again. He's finished and only fighting for money. Tyson will not be champion again especially if he continues to do what he said he is going to do and that is fight B and C level fighters until he thinks he is ready.
jabsRstiff 10-18-2004, 03:15 PM Tyson fought Williams at the very end of July.
If he's down to 215, already, that would indicate that he has been excercising for a while.
I'm tired of the bull**** excuses from fighters, & even more from their fans buying them & perpetuating them.
i beleive tyson's injury was legit, but i dont believe he's going to be a force in the division again, even if the division is weak....
restless_438 10-18-2004, 07:05 PM hey, whether he does good/bad in the ring, it's good to see the guy in good health, gettin his **** together.
MetalVomit 10-18-2004, 08:02 PM The King is back!!! He is going to avenge his loss to Danny Williams, then go on and grab a belt or two.
he would definently beat williams, but king? no, although i would make him a favorite against Brewster and Ruiz
chito 10-18-2004, 10:31 PM tyson is still an attraction no matter what others say so its good to hear he's in tip-top shape and maybe he's good for a couple of fights and can redeem himself from that not so good losses he suffered and make that good exit, how is that?
grayfist 10-18-2004, 10:50 PM Mike's problem was, and appears to still be, mental as much as physical. The Holyfield fights showed as much. Even a very fit Tyson cannot sometimes drive away his demons long enough to fight using his God-given boxing gifts. Whenever confronted by a case study of an opponent, he either visibly sulked and looked beaten, or had recourse to gross methods such as biting one's opponent's ear off. He has also gotten to complaining too much to the refs in many of his latter fights. About the self-proclaimed BADDEST MAN ON THE PLANET, that says volumes!
If only mental fitness inexhorably follows physical fitness, then Tyson may have a shot. Sadly, that doesn't always happen. :(
techn9ne 10-18-2004, 11:25 PM he should retire and start his own reality show to earn some money
realheavyhands 10-19-2004, 12:17 AM I hope he is in great shape so maybe we won't hear the Tyson faithful make excuses when he dissapoints them again. He's finished and only fighting for money. Tyson will not be champion again especially if he continues to do what he said he is going to do and that is fight B and C level fighters until he thinks he is ready.tyson said hes gone right after the top guys
what you talkin bout
SonnyG8R 10-19-2004, 02:45 AM Tyson's ass crack. Just what I always wanted to see. :rolleyes:
The Noose 10-19-2004, 02:48 AM Tyson's ass crack. Just what I always wanted to see. :rolleyes:
That should have been the title of this thread!
"TYSON ASS CRACK...UPDATE"
The Noose 10-19-2004, 02:51 AM Tyson will always be a ****ing lunatic!
Hes dead. But 90% of the heavywieght divison is slightly more decomposed than him.
Dark Destroyer 10-19-2004, 05:51 AM I do not believe Mike Tyson can be successful in the boxing world anymore no matter how fit he is now. He has had his day and he has proved time and time again that his dedication is gone when he steps up to fight someone big. He simply doesn't have what it takes anymore, any decent heavyweight who can last 3 rounds with him has won. There is no excuse for getting beat by Danny Williams like that. Getting hit 26 times in a row is a sign in itself that continuing will lead to bad things, Mike had never been it that many times in one flurry before.
Palma 10-19-2004, 07:51 AM God and the wonderful world of boxing politics..Hmmmmm
Good point, I dont see how a man could jump when just 2-3 months prior was in a wheel chair with a cast....
Who knows....He does look a lot trimmer though.....
Ya trimmer, but he does have a major gut and what is the deal with the love handles!? :D
puppy_dogg 10-19-2004, 08:02 AM Getting hit 26 times in a row is a sign in itself that continuing will lead to bad things, Mike had never been it that many times in one flurry before.
mike does still have the power to take someone out but this is true, watching mike get hit that many times in a row was sad and im not even a tyson fan. he may be in great shape but much of his fighting instinct seems to have diminished.
El Jesus 10-19-2004, 08:56 AM One last chance, thats all iron mike has, im a tyson fanboy, but i know reality, as many excuses as all of us who love can make for him, we all must face reality, if he loses badly like that again, hes done.
jabsRstiff 10-19-2004, 09:02 AM If you're putting your hopes behind a fighter who can only fight hard for a round or two....you're gonna get your heart broken.
Mike Tyson has neither the interest or ability to work for a victory.
If ANYONE, at this point, survives his early onslaught (one that's not nearly as fierce as it used to be) they can stop him a bit later.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-19-2004, 09:37 AM I didn't think Tyson looked that fit in those pictures. He was like 233lbs of Muscle for that last fight, now he looks a little flabby and he's 215. Sounds like he lost muscle to me.
spinksjinx 10-19-2004, 09:43 AM I didn't think Tyson looked that fit in those pictures. He was like 233lbs of Muscle for that last fight, now he looks a little flabby and he's 215. Sounds like he lost muscle to me.
The first picture is of him now at 215....The other pictures are not....Tyson looks slim, trim and fit in the 1st picture.....
Tyson has stressed he has no desire to fight anymore but it is the only thing he knows how to do....He says he doesnt have the hunger and wants out of it and he *****ed to shelly in the context of "I dont want to fight anymore why do you keep trying to **** my life up by doing so"
He is only fighting for the money, Tyson even stated that it is no big deal or shock when he said it himself....Tyson has stressed time and time again he wants out but cant because he needs money....
Tyson has no fire and should not be put in the ring with a fighter who is hungry....
TheFairPole 10-19-2004, 09:51 AM Tyson had a meniscus tear!!!
There are two different mechanisms for tearing a meniscus.
Traumatic tears result from a sudden load being applied to the meniscal tissue which is severe enough to cause the meniscal cartilage to fail and let go. These usually occur from a twisting injury or a blow to the side of the knee that causes the meniscus to be levered against and compressed. A football clipping injury or a fall backwards onto the heel with rotation of the lower leg are common examples of this injury pattern. In a person under 30 years of age this typically requires a fairly violent injury although any age group can sustain a traumatic tear.
Degenerative meniscal tears are best thought of as a failure of the meniscus over time. There is a natural drying-out of the inner center of the meniscus that can begin in the late 20's and progresses with age. The meniscus becomes less elastic and compliant and as a result may fail with only minimal trauma (such as just getting down into a squat). Sometimes there are no memorable injuries or violent events which can be blamed as the cause of the tear. The association of these tears with aging makes degenerative tears in a teenager almost unheard of.
A meniscus can tear in almost any conceivable geometric pattern and in any location. Tears confined to the anterior horn of the cartilage however are unusual. Typically tears begin in the posterior horn and then can extend forward into the middle body and even anterior horn.
Examples of tear types
Arthroscopic view of a complex posterior horn meniscal tear
Signs and symptoms of a meniscal tear
A torn meniscus will usually cause pain on the side of the knee that is localized to the meniscus (at the level of the joint line between the femur and tibia). Swelling of the joint may occur although meniscal tears by themselves usually don't cause a large, tensely swollen knee. Typically low-level swelling sets in the next day after the injury and is associated with stiffness and limping.
Sometimes the knee becomes "locked" in a bent position and is quite painful with attempts to straighten it. This scenario is often caused by the mechanical blockage of the joint from a displaced bucket handle type meniscal tear. The torn fragment actually acts like a wedge to prevent the joint surfaces from moving, hence the knee appears locked.
Any twisting, squatting or impacting activities will pinch the meniscus tear or flap and cause pain. Often the pain may improve with rest after the initial injury so that the limping resolves but as soon as aggressive activity is attempted the pain recurs. Meniscal tissue doesn't heal (with the exception noted above) due to its lack of a blood supply so symptoms are persistent until the tear is treated.
The diagnosis of a tear is made based on the history and joint line findings. A physician can often stress and manipulate the knee joint in a way that provokes the meniscal tear to snap or cause pain which makes the diagnosis likely. Other times an MRI scan will be obtained to visualize the meniscus and assess its integrity. A good MRI scanner has a very high accuracy rate in determining if a tear is present.
About MRI scans
David's Discoid Meniscus
Treatment of Meniscal Tears: Arthroscopic Surgery
Once a meniscal tear has been diagnosed it should be treated. This doesn't have to be done urgently although patients with a painful locked knee may want surgery as soon as scheduling permits. Arthroscopic surgery is the only way to treat the tear since there are currently no medications, braces, or physical therapy treatments that have been shown to promote healing in the avascular tears. As explained above it's conceivable that a short (<1 cm) stable tear limited to the outer 20% of the meniscus where the blood supply is could heal with a period of immobilization but this a rare circumstance.
Arthroscopic surgery is performed on an outpatient basis. The surgeon initially inspects the whole knee joint to see if there are any other problems (e.g. arthritic areas, ligament tears or tears of the other meniscus) and then evaluates the meniscal tear by inspecting it with a blunt probe. Based on the location and geometry of the tear the decision is made to either remove or repair the tear(s). Removing the tear (called a meniscectomy) is accomplished by using a variety of small instruments that cut and suck out only the the torn portions of the meniscus. The remaining meniscal rim is then balanced and contoured to provide a gradually tapered transition into the area of the resection. The surgeon tries to leave as much normal meniscal cartilage as possible since this is an important shock-absorbing structure.
Arthroscopic probing of a posterior horn complex meniscal tear with multiple flaps After arthroscopic removal of flap tears and contouring of remaining meniscal rim
Most meniscal tears need to be removed because they involve areas of the tissue that do not have the ability to heal (even if sewn together). On the other hand, if there is a vertical tear at the peripheral rim of the meniscus which is confined to the zone of meniscal blood supply, it is possible and desirable to repair the meniscus. A repair allows the entire meniscus to be saved and retained whereas removing a peripheral tear would require resection of a very large portion of the meniscus. The key to a successful repair is that the meniscus must be able to heal itself; the repair serves only as a means of securely holding the tissue together long enough for this biologic process to occur.
Technique of Arthroscopic Meniscal Repair
There are a variety of surgical techniques available for repairing a torn meniscus. Initially surgeons used to do an open repair (outside-in) sewing the meniscus back together through an incision, however in recent years the technology has progressed so that these repairs are now routinely done arthroscopically.
One arthroscopic technique is an inside-out method that uses curved guide tubes called cannulas to direct a pair of long needles into the meniscus and out through a small incision in the back of the knee. The suture thread ends connected to the needles are then tied together on the outside of the knee capsule layer to firmly bring the meniscal tear together.
This technique works well but note that it does require a 11/2 - 2" incision to access the area where the knots need to be tied down.
There are now a variety of methods available to the arthroscopic surgeon that permit a true inside-in repair and avoid having to make an incision at all. Some of these include bioresorbable T-arrows and dissolving meniscal "staples" which can each be applied from within the joint arthroscopically. At Orthopaedic Associates of Portland we often prefer to use the T-Fix® system for meniscal repair since in our hands it seems to give a strong and tight re-approximation of the meniscus to its rim. The T-Fix® sutures have an anchor that acts like a wall anchor and is deployed after placing the suture through the meniscus, the tear and the peripheral rim . Multiple sutures pairs are placed through long hollow needles and are tied together from inside the joint using a knot pusher instrument that securely snugs the meniscus down and provides an excellent repair.
Peripheral meniscal tear in the zone of blood supply
Knots are pushed down after placing suture anchors
Close up of knot pusher
Arthroscopic view of a meniscus repaired with the T-Fix® system
Post-Operative Treatment
Appropriate protection of the repaired meniscus is required since even the most secure repair will tear through the meniscal tissue if it is loaded too soon. The role of the repair is only to hold the meniscus together long enough that it can heal firmly. For this reason we do not allow weight bearing on the joint for at least 3 weeks after surgery. On the other hand motion is encouraged and some simple light-load toning muscle exercises are usually permitted.
Once weight bearing is begun the knee is gradually and progressively conditioned with a supervised physical therapy program . Maximal weight training is not allowed for 2-3 months. Return to running and agility sports is permitted after 3-4 months if strength and motion have returned and there is no pain in the joint.
Recovery from removal of a meniscal tear is much quicker and requires the use of crutches for longer walks only until the patient can walk without limping (typically 5-7 days). With a proper rehabilitation program one can usually expect to be back in sports within 4-6 weeks after the meniscectomy (Meniscectomy Rehabilitation Protocol).
ear!!!
TheFairPole 10-19-2004, 09:53 AM In other words, although it is very painful, you can be fully recovered in 4 to 6 weeks!!! Maybe even sooner.
LuKahnLi 10-19-2004, 09:56 AM I must enter Jabs' sentiments. If you get him to round 5 or later he will be taken.
He clearly needs to retire.
mic573 10-19-2004, 09:58 AM tyson said hes gone right after the top guys
what you talkin bout
I forgot who the interviewer's name is but he asked Tyson when he came back would he try to go for a shot at a title and he said he was just going to fight guys at Danny Williams level until he thinks he is ready. I haven't really tried to keep up with Tyson lately so he could of changed his mind.
spinksjinx 10-19-2004, 10:33 AM I forgot who the interviewer's name is but he asked Tyson when he came back would he try to go for a shot at a title and he said he was just going to fight guys at Danny Williams level until he thinks he is ready. I haven't really tried to keep up with Tyson lately so he could of changed his mind.
****, Danny Williams is on top of the world w/ no reason to be.....
theironone 10-19-2004, 12:08 PM Tyson needs to retire i'm a huge fan of his but I do have eyes. Even in the 1st when he nearly had williams out he looked to me like an old man trying to fight, trying to get it back, it all looked like it was too much hard work for him ( not suggesting he's lazy ) i mean like he cant do it anymore not purely that he cant be bothered to put the hours in. He's totally shot and that's all there is too it - the man should retire otherwise he'll be getting beat by proper bums on a regular occasion
jabsRstiff 10-19-2004, 12:13 PM I find it so bizarre that so many are rooting for this one-time multi millionaire to come out of debt & be sickeningly rich once again.
What kind of misplaced symapthy is that ?
He has made an absurd amount of money....& squandered it like an idiot.
Too bad. Let the f*cker eat ramen noodles for the rest of his life.
Dark Destroyer 10-19-2004, 12:21 PM mike does still have the power to take someone out but this is true, watching mike get hit that many times in a row was sad and im not even a tyson fan. he may be in great shape but much of his fighting instinct seems to have diminished.
It was a sad sight to see for anyone who appreciates and respects a boxing. Tyson was great in his youth but the devastating man has been dead since he came out of prison. Each time he stepped up since he got beaten back down. He's lost his heart somewhere along his comeback journey and fighters have been chipping his last bits of confidence over the last few years. It's a shame his style and lack of height prevents him from been able to conserve his energy alot more because he could be a threat with his power but as things stand he gets a 6 minute chance to win in every other fight he takes in my opinion. It was sad to see him return through money problems but he hasn't got anyone to blame but himself in that department.
El Jesus 10-19-2004, 01:19 PM I find it so bizarre that so many are rooting for this one-time multi millionaire to come out of debt & be sickeningly rich once again.
What kind of misplaced symapthy is that ?
He has made an absurd amount of money....& squandered it like an idiot.
Too bad. Let the f*cker eat ramen noodles for the rest of his life.
because anyone whos ever cared about him truely has died.
He had to raise himself, and pretty much, when he finally got money etc, many around him he let manipulate and take it away, not to mention he basically pissed it away as well. I sympathize with him because i know if i didint have my mother, id probably be living a much different path right now not having a father in my life. Thats all.
Mrpresident 10-19-2004, 01:46 PM In other words, although it is very painful, you can be fully recovered in 4 to 6 weeks!!! Maybe even sooner.
I love your signature man, Return of the Living Dead is one of my favorite movies. :D
Mr. Ryan 10-19-2004, 01:49 PM Tyson is Arturo Gatti, in that Tyson knocks opponents out and is exciting, but really can't compete on the elite level and still win. Has June 8, 2002 been so long ago?
jabsRstiff 10-19-2004, 01:55 PM because anyone whos ever cared about him truely has died.
He had to raise himself, and pretty much, when he finally got money etc, many around him he let manipulate and take it away, not to mention he basically pissed it away as well. I sympathize with him because i know if i didint have my mother, id probably be living a much different path right now not having a father in my life. Thats all.
Well....You should root for Mike to become a better-rounded person.
Someone who has to go learn a trade, & live a normal life.
I feel no pity for someone who earned 300 million dollars, a lot of which came after what should have been a lesson-teaching prison stay (though I believe he was not guilty)......& somehow manages to find his way in 30 mil in debt.
I don't care about his childhood. He's pushing 40....no excuses & no sympathy.
TheFairPole 10-20-2004, 06:21 AM I love your signature man, Return of the Living Dead is one of my favorite movies. :D
Thanks, mine too! There are 2 more R.O.T.L.D. movies in the works right now!!!
THRILLAinmanila 10-20-2004, 06:30 AM Well....You should root for Mike to become a better-rounded person.
Someone who has to go learn a trade, & live a normal life.
I feel no pity for someone who earned 300 million dollars, a lot of which came after what should have been a lesson-teaching prison stay (though I believe he was not guilty)......& somehow manages to find his way in 30 mil in debt.
I don't care about his childhood. He's pushing 40....no excuses & no sympathy.
Yup, same here.. 1 million in some parts of the world is enough to last a lifetime....
psychopath 10-20-2004, 09:16 AM Tyson at his age and present physical state won't be as dominating as he was before . . . but don't count the guy out . . . he is still very much capable of beating a lot of those rank younger fighters in the division.
Never mind his life outside the ring . . . I'm a boxing fan so who cares. :cool:
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 11:14 AM hey, whether he does good/bad in the ring, it's good to see the guy in good health, gettin his **** together.
Exactly, dude. I'm no Tyson hugger, but I do have faith in his abilities. His knee injury is legit, and he will be back. Why people always have to detract from something positive about a boxer trying to get his act together is beyond me. Mark my words fellas, We're gonna see Tyson with a belt sometime in late '05. Next year is gonna be a good year for the heavywieght soap opera.
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 11:57 AM I find it so bizarre that so many are rooting for this one-time multi millionaire to come out of debt & be sickeningly rich once again.
What kind of misplaced symapthy is that ?
He has made an absurd amount of money....& squandered it like an idiot.
Too bad. Let the f*cker eat ramen noodles for the rest of his life.
Hey Jabs, use your noggin for a minute, man. When he hit that jackpot and made all that money, he was just a boy. Barely even 20 years old. And a boy who basically grew up with no parenting whatsoever. The only father figure he had was his trainer, Cus D'Amato.
Now imagine a 20 year old kid, with no common sense instilled into him at all, suddenly getting overwhelmed with more fame, popularity, and money than you ever dreamed of. How many young celebrities (and yes, thats what he was) have we seen just go crap or commit suicide or get jailed, etc... because of this.
Now, add to this the number of people who saw a cash cow in him, and realized how impressionable and manipulatable (is that a word? I dont know, but you get the picture) he was and saw a way to get rich just by hanging around him as part of his entourage, complimenting him, and basically being a "yes man". Not to mention the financial beating he must have taken from Don King, and who knows how many others.
You had a kid who had never had friends or family before suddenly besieged with people who claimed they were his friends and he didnt know how to deal with it. He was young and impressionable and didnt konw any better, so he was far more generous than he should have been, because, where aer all the friends he had now? When the money ran out, so did they.
Dealing with something as jarring as an instant change in your entire lifestyle is, as we have seen, exceedingly difficult. Its amazing to me that he didnt wind up dead.
So watch your ignorant mouth and think before you make that kind of statement, you insensitive prick.
jabsRstiff 10-20-2004, 12:03 PM Hey Jabs, use your noggin for a minute, man. When he hit that jackpot and made all that money, he was just a boy. Barely even 20 years old. And a boy who basically grew up with no parenting whatsoever. The only father figure he had was his trainer, Cus D'Amato.
Now imagine a 20 year old kid, with no common sense instilled into him at all, suddenly getting overwhelmed with more fame, popularity, and money than you ever dreamed of. How many young celebrities (and yes, thats what he was) have we seen just go crap or commit suicide or get jailed, etc... because of this.
Now, add to this the number of people who saw a cash cow in him, and realized how impressionable and manipulatable (is that a word? I dont know, but you get the picture) he was and saw a way to get rich just by hanging around him as part of his entourage, complimenting him, and basically being a "yes man". Not to mention the financial beating he must have taken from Don King, and who knows how many others.
You had a kid who had never had friends or family before suddenly besieged with people who claimed they were his friends and he didnt know how to deal with it. He was young and impressionable and didnt konw any better, so he was far more generous than he should have been, because, where aer all the friends he had now? When the money ran out, so did they.
Dealing with something as jarring as an instant change in your entire lifestyle is, as we have seen, exceedingly difficult. Its amazing to me that he didnt wind up dead.
So watch your ignorant mouth and think before you make that kind of statement, you insensitive prick.
Hey,DUNCE....
Do you know the majority of Tyson's money was made AFTER he got out of prison ?
How old was he then genius ?
No excuses.
You're the ignorant one....for wasting your sympathy on a former millionaire.
You are truly an idiot.
realheavyhands 10-20-2004, 12:40 PM let be real like tyson shirt say ... all tyson got to do is run run and run ... nobody can punch like him .. it aint gone be hard as yall think.. if he gets his stamina up there aint nobody that can beat him right now.. time will tell
jabsRstiff 10-20-2004, 12:46 PM let be real like tyson shirt say ... all tyson got to do is run run and run ... nobody can punch like him .. it aint gone be hard as yall think.. if he gets his stamina up there aint nobody that can beat him right now.. time will tell
If that's the case....when's Earnie Shavers coming back to win a championship ?
C'mon, heavy....you get real.
The guy is a FRONTRUNNER !
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 01:36 PM Hey,DUNCE....
Do you know the majority of Tyson's money was made AFTER he got out of prison ?
How old was he then genius ?
No excuses.
You're the ignorant one....for wasting your sympathy on a former millionaire.
You are truly an idiot.
It doesn't matter, stupid. Do you honestly think that prison time would make him any more emotionally mature? If anything, he probably regressed, and needed the attention more then than at any time. Are you denying that what I posted? Are you denying that King robbed him? (Oh right, King has never robbed ANYONE, has he? He's a goddam saint). Are you denying the leeching entourage that followed him and did what they did just cause he had money? You cant deny any of that, you moron. You're a goddam retard if you think you can blame his current financial state on him alone. Sure he's partly responsible, but any quasi-intelligent, rational individual, with a normal functioning brain (not you, obviously)would understand that.
jabsRstiff 10-20-2004, 01:43 PM 300 million dollars, *******....300 million dollars !
Who told Mike to buy a 21 million dollar house & some white tigers ?
I don't care about POOR MIKE & what other people did to him.
He's a big boy now.
& why is it so important he become a millionaire again ?
Why can't you all just hope he lives a quiet life ?
If he gets over his debt, & returns to multi-millionaire status, I guarantee he squanders it again. I also guarantee geeks like you will be praying he strikes it rich a THIRD TIME.
Admit it....you jerk off to the guy, don't you ?
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 01:45 PM 300 million dollars, *******....300 million dollars !
Who told Mike to buy a 21 million dollar house & some white tigers ?
I don't care about POOR MIKE & what other people did to him.
He's a big boy now.
& why is it so important he become a millionaire again ?
Why can't you all just hope he lives a quiet life ?
If he gets over his debt, & returns to multi-millionaire status, I guarantee he squanders it again. I also guarantee geeks like you will be praying he strikes it rich a THIRD TIME.
Admit it....you jerk off to the guy, don't you ?
LOL, alright you got me. You figured me out.
jabsRstiff 10-20-2004, 01:49 PM LOL, alright you got me. You figured me out.
Not hard to do when YOU are caught with your pants down, two-incher in hand....& an 8 x 10 glossy of Tyson is nearby....
That's the image you've created.
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 01:55 PM 300 million dollars, *******....300 million dollars !
Who told Mike to buy a 21 million dollar house & some white tigers ?
I don't care about POOR MIKE & what other people did to him.
He's a big boy now.
& why is it so important he become a millionaire again ?
Why can't you all just hope he lives a quiet life ?
If he gets over his debt, & returns to multi-millionaire status, I guarantee he squanders it again. I also guarantee geeks like you will be praying he strikes it rich a THIRD TIME.
Admit it....you jerk off to the guy, don't you ?
But on a serious note, though, I would like to see him make a good honorable go of it one last tiem, and possibly grab a belt. And I dont necessarily think that its over for him after his fighting days are over. I can easily see him becoming a trainer, commentator (someone, I forget who, said that when he as a guest commentator at some fight, he was able to give intelligent, insightful input about both fighters) or possibly even promoter. I would think the name recognition he's got might just carry him to a little succes..
jabsRstiff 10-20-2004, 02:01 PM I agree...Mike has a future in boxing outside of fighting.
What people forget is that Mike is a true historian. He was with Jacobs & Cayton, who owned practically every fight film/video ever made. Mike has a vast knowledge of the sport - the fundamentals, the styles, the fighters....
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 02:01 PM Not hard to do when YOU are caught with your pants down, two-incher in hand....& an 8 x 10 glossy of Tyson is nearby....
That's the image you've created.
Hey, watch your mouth. It's a three incher. Get it right.
GranTorino 10-20-2004, 02:04 PM I agree...Mike has a future in boxing outside of fighting.
What people forget is that Mike is a true historian. He was with Jacobs & Cayton, who owned practically every fight film/video ever made. Mike has a vast knowledge of the sport - the fundamentals, the styles, the fighters....
Yea, seeing him on HBO or ESPN commentating would not surprise me in the least, and I can almost guarantee you that he'll do a better job than RJJ
Boxerdog 10-20-2004, 02:10 PM Mike is pretty articulate and has tons of knowledge. He played a role for years to sell tickets and to this day, it works.
He is no nuclear scientist but he was pulling all of our chains with the "slip into bolivian" and "I take my hand off to him" B.S. .....good show, Mike!
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