i seen him fight byron mitchell and the ref stopped mitchell when he threw the last punch. i think he dropped calzaghe in that round too. he was taking alot of punishment but it looked like he had chin and was trying to use the lamon brewster/homer simpson style of fighting where the other guy connects every time but punches himself out in the process. anyway i thought it was ended way to early. calzaghe looked like a good quick lefty,he seemed like a volume puncher and a pressure fighter, but he doesn't seem like that big of a star, he's got the worthless wbo belt and if i were tarver or hopkins i would see no point in fighting him. johnson or lacy would be good opponents for him.

i seen him fight byron mitchell and the ref stopped mitchell when he threw the last punch. i think he dropped calzaghe in that round too. he was taking alot of punishment but it looked like he had chin and was trying to use the lamon brewster/homer simpson style of fighting where the other guy connects every time but punches himself out in the process. anyway i thought it was ended way to early. calzaghe looked like a good quick lefty,he seemed like a volume puncher and a pressure fighter, but he doesn't seem like that big of a star, he's got the worthless wbo belt and if i were tarver or hopkins i would see no point in fighting him. johnson or lacy would be good opponents for him.


Decent fighter w/ better then average hand speed and packs a punch....Controls a division where NOBODY is....So he makes the most noise and he is the star of 168.......Jeff Lacy enters, Calzaghe is no more...True Story....You wont hear much of him now that Lacy owns that division

oh hell yeah, calzaghe ain't got nuthin on Lacy. It's gonna be NO QUESTION when they meet soon. Joe really doesn't stand a chance. Jeff Lacy owns the super middle.

I strongly disagree. If Calzaghe had fought the big names he would surely have, if not beat them, given them the fight of their careers.
Calzaghe is 37 - 0 - 0 (30) and has beaten Chris Eubank ( and beat him up too ), Robin Reid, Mitchell, Charles Breawer, Omar Sheika, Richie Woodall and he did Mario Veitin 90 seconds.
True, these are mostly second tier contenders but it is how he has delt with them that is so impressive.
Mitchell got a luckly punch and knocked him down! Big deal. Calzaghe has a solid chin and i would pick him against Hopkins because of the style. Hopkins would have fits with a big powerful and very quick southpaw and Calzaghe has been calling him out for years now only to be denied by Hop!
If given the chance, Joe Calzaghe can beat any top flight fighter in or around his weight.

I strongly disagree. If Calzaghe had fought the big names he would surely have, if not beat them, given them the fight of their careers.
Calzaghe is 37 - 0 - 0 (30) and has beaten Chris Eubank ( and beat him up too ), Robin Reid, Mitchell, Charles Breawer, Omar Sheika, Richie Woodall and he did Mario Veitin 90 seconds.
True, these are mostly second tier contenders but it is how he has delt with them that is so impressive.
Mitchell got a luckly punch and knocked him down! Big deal. Calzaghe has a solid chin and i would pick him against Hopkins because of the style. Hopkins would have fits with a big powerful and very quick southpaw and Calzaghe has been calling him out for years now only to be denied by Hop!
If given the chance, Joe Calzaghe can beat any top flight fighter in or around his weight.



Lacy is a powerhouse man, Noway calzaghe stands a chance....

I dont take ANYTHING away from Calzaghe, I know he has a pretty solid chin, hits like a bull and is pretty fast in the hands, but Lacy would massacre him.


That is my opinion....Calzaghe is a good fighter, Lacy is a great one....

Lacy in under 4 if it ever happened.


Restless-On a side note, Jesus christ Lacy is a big man for 168....

There's a UK boxing fan who will set you straight named eleivel.

Seriously, I've had the same discussions with him. Calzaghe fans don't see the Mitchell spectacle the same way any objective observer would. He has been protected, no doubt, but can be let off the hook because the division is so barren. Now, if he hides from Lacy, which it looks like he might be doing (there's a link on the first page here somewhere on Non Stop Boxing), and still doesn't get the light heavyweight opponents he's seeking, I'll be a bit harder on the guy.

There's a UK boxing fan who will set you straight named eleivel.

Seriously, I've had the same discussions with him. Calzaghe fans don't see the Mitchell spectacle the same way any objective observer would. He has been protected, no doubt, but can be let off the hook because the division is so barren. Now, if he hides from Lacy, which it looks like he might be doing (there's a link on the first page here somewhere on Non Stop Boxing), and still doesn't get the light heavyweight opponents he's seeking, I'll be a bit harder on the guy.


Im not being hard and will respect anyones opinion as long as they respect mine, but lacy is just that damn of a better fighter then Calzaghe.

Lacy is a powerhouse man, Noway calzaghe stands a chance....

I dont take ANYTHING away from Calzaghe, I know he has a pretty solid chin, hits like a bull and is pretty fast in the hands, but Lacy would massacre him.


That is my opinion....Calzaghe is a good fighter, Lacy is a great one....

Lacy in under 4 if it ever happened.


Restless-On a side note, Jesus christ Lacy is a big man for 168....

actually lacy is a small guy
hes only 5'9
joes got 2 and a half inches on him
hopkins has 4 inches
tarver has 5 and a half inches
even tito beats him by 2in
just comparen him to some the names that have been thrown out there
hes sort of like a supermiddle weight Tyson
hes short but built for power

actually lacy is a small guy
hes only 5'9
joes got 2 and a half inches on him
hopkins has 4 inches
tarver has 5 and a half inches
even tito beats him by 2in
just comparen him to some the names that have been thrown out there
hes sort of like a supermiddle weight Tyson
hes short but built for power


I didnt mean height wise, he carries a lot of mass at 168....He looks like a freaking heavy.....

There's a UK boxing fan who will set you straight named eleivel.

Seriously, I've had the same discussions with him. Calzaghe fans don't see the Mitchell spectacle the same way any objective observer would. He has been protected, no doubt, but can be let off the hook because the division is so barren. Now, if he hides from Lacy, which it looks like he might be doing (there's a link on the first page here somewhere on Non Stop Boxing), and still doesn't get the light heavyweight opponents he's seeking, I'll be a bit harder on the guy.

The same way American fans dont see Lacy as any objective observer would. :p

Bull****, i'm no Calzaghe fan, infact i hated him at one point but the man is without doubt the best super middle in the world.

He'd beat that joke Tarver, Tarver is pound4pound ranked for beating an over the hill fighter. Williams did the same to tyson and is he pound4pound ranked?? NO becuase his passport raises doubt(it says UK on it)

Johnson wouldnt last 2 rounds with Calzaghe. so i wont bother with that subject.

And the pound4pound number 1 would get beat by Calzaghe! Thats why he ducked him, maybe Nard should be step out of that baron division and pick on someone bigger than him.

I'll bet you 5k on every fight i mention, Calzaghe may lack in the skills department but his hand speed, work rate, heart and power make up for it!!

Lacy is a powerhouse man, Noway calzaghe stands a chance....

I dont take ANYTHING away from Calzaghe, I know he has a pretty solid chin, hits like a bull and is pretty fast in the hands, but Lacy would massacre him.


That is my opinion....Calzaghe is a good fighter, Lacy is a great one....

Lacy in under 4 if it ever happened.


Restless-On a side note, Jesus christ Lacy is a big man for 168....


LMAO!! :D

Whats the big deal about Lacy!?!?!? He's 17-0 prospect who hasnt been in with a decent fighter, Vanderpool is ok but he's not exactly world class is he, and to make it worst Lacy didnt even look that good against him!!

What have you seen that i'm missing?? Lacy has got some talent but the fact he's a world champion is a joke in itself!! He'll be a good fighter in 2006 but Calzaghe would beat him up badly in 2004/2005.

I totally agree, Calzaghe right now is at a different level and seems to put on excellent performances when challenged ( Eubank, Sheika etc.. ). i think Lacy would be stopped late by Calzaghe but it would be a great fight and i wish it happen. Unfortunately, all these big names end up ducking Joe. I think it has\something to do with his quality.

Restless-On a side note, Jesus christ Lacy is a big man for 168....

very true.

LMAO!! :D

Whats the big deal about Lacy!?!?!? He's 17-0 prospect who hasnt been in with a decent fighter, Vanderpool is ok but he's not exactly world class is he, and to make it worst Lacy didnt even look that good against him!!

What have you seen that i'm missing?? Lacy has got some talent but the fact he's a world champion is a joke in itself!! He'll be a good fighter in 2006 but Calzaghe would beat him up badly in 2004/2005.

Hang on, "Lacy didn't look good against him?". It was one of the best fights this year! Obviously you didn't even watch it. Second, Lacy will beat Calzaghe either THIS year, or EARLY next! Like spinksjinx said, Calzaghe=good Lacy=great.

Decent fighter w/ better then average hand speed and packs a punch....Controls a division where NOBODY is....So he makes the most noise and he is the star of 168.......Jeff Lacy enters, Calzaghe is no more...True Story....You wont hear much of him now that Lacy owns that division

Get Calzhage n the ring with Green and we'll see how good he is.
Green will Hand Joe his first loss, I guarentee it.

Get Calzhage n the ring with Green and we'll see how good he is.
Green will Hand Joe his first loss, I guarentee it.

One hell of a fight that would be. It won't last the distance, i guarantee it! ;)

Lacy-Calzaghe should happen, must happen. :mad:

One hell of a fight that would be. It won't last the distance, i guarantee it! ;)

Lacy-Calzaghe should happen, must happen. :mad:




But wont happen. :)

Jc Will Destroy Him, Hes Done Nothing To Proove Otherwise, Lacy Has Only Fought 17 Fights And They Have Been Against Nobodys

Joe Will Destroy Him With His Power Speed And Heart, Not To Mention The Fact That Lacys Power Will Be Cancelled Out By Jc's Chin

Joe Calzaghe and Danny Green would be a very good fight but i think Joe's experience may just take him through the Green fight. Danny is a good powerful puncher and fights well but Joe adopts the same game plan and has fought some tough opposition over the years. I admit Joe's opposition has been pretty poor the last few years but that has been through lack of opponents and Sven Ottke refusing to fight Joe. Now there are no excuses for Joe as there is plenty of competition waiting for him like Mikkel Kessler, Danny Green, Jeff Lacy and maybe even Marcus Beyer. I know these aren't big names in boxing but they are certainly big in the Super Middleweight dvision at the moment.

Jc Will Destroy Him, Hes Done Nothing To Proove Otherwise, Lacy Has Only Fought 17 Fights And They Have Been Against Nobodys

Joe Will Destroy Him With His Power Speed And Heart, Not To Mention The Fact That Lacys Power Will Be Cancelled Out By Jc's Chin

JC's chin? The dude went down against Byron Mitchell. Lacy has a tad more power, I believe

Hang on, "Lacy didn't look good against him?". It was one of the best fights this year! Obviously you didn't even watch it. Second, Lacy will beat Calzaghe either THIS year, or EARLY next! Like spinksjinx said, Calzaghe=good Lacy=great.

I have seen it a couple of times now and i dont see why this 17-0 fighter is being called great!!

what the **** is all that about!!!!

How can anyone call him great when he has beaten a good fighter yet!?!?!? He's good but he hasnt proved his worth yet. :confused:

Get Calzhage n the ring with Green and we'll see how good he is.
Green will Hand Joe his first loss, I guarentee it.

Green would be Calzaghe's toughest fight at super middle, i like what i have seen of him but i still think Calzaghe would beat him.

Green has proved his worth, i'd be happy to see Calzaghe take that fight. Maybe Green should take Lacys belt first and make it a super fight!

JC is a good fighter I believe. I mean, he beat the balls off of Charles Brewer. No easy task for ANYONE. I think he could have beaten Ottke.

But, other than Brewer he has shown a real unwillingness to fight anybody of consequence. I mean, Antwun Echols would suffice. But instead he is fighting Kabary ****ing Salem!!!! This is dissapointing.

Hang hang! Calzaghe wanted the big fights, and offer was made to Bernard Hopkins and all it needed was Hop`s signiture and he didn`t sign.
Calzaghe has never ducked anyone. They have avoided him.
As for the bull**** regarding Joe`s `weak` chin, that is a fairy tale. Robin Reid, Brewer and Mitchell tested it. Yes, Joe got caught and went down but he got straight back up and ended the fight seconds later. How the hell does a man with a bad chin get knocked down and then stops the guy a minute later. If Joe had been hurt he would have backed off. Thats like saying Muhammad Ali had a bad chin when he was floored by Brit Henry Cooper. for my money 37 fights unbeaten with one flash knock down does not consitute a bad chin.
Danny Green would not want to fight Joe and Lacy would sooner dive off the statue of liberty rather than fight Joe.
Realize that Joe is the real deal and if these payday hungry wanna bes were to fight him we`d all find out!

Hang hang! Calzaghe wanted the big fights, and offer was made to Bernard Hopkins and all it needed was Hop`s signiture and he didn`t sign.
Calzaghe has never ducked anyone. They have avoided him.
As for the bull**** regarding Joe`s `weak` chin, that is a fairy tale. Robin Reid, Brewer and Mitchell tested it. Yes, Joe got caught and went down but he got straight back up and ended the fight seconds later. How the hell does a man with a bad chin get knocked down and then stops the guy a minute later. If Joe had been hurt he would have backed off. Thats like saying Muhammad Ali had a bad chin when he was floored by Brit Henry Cooper. for my money 37 fights unbeaten with one flash knock down does not consitute a bad chin.
Danny Green would not want to fight Joe and Lacy would sooner dive off the statue of liberty rather than fight Joe.
Realize that Joe is the real deal and if these payday hungry wanna bes were to fight him we`d all find out!



Joe's chin is Grade A, steel in my book....


The thing I like about Joe is he doesnt price himself out of matches which shows that he wants the best.......


I like calzaghe but I just dont think he would fair well against Lacy.....

Every fighter has to lose sometime in their career though.

JC is a good fighter I believe. I mean, he beat the balls off of Charles Brewer. No easy task for ANYONE. I think he could have beaten Ottke.

But, other than Brewer he has shown a real unwillingness to fight anybody of consequence. I mean, Antwun Echols would suffice. But instead he is fighting Kabary ****ing Salem!!!! This is dissapointing.

Ottke would have been stopped in around against Calzaghe, Lacy and Green.

Mitchell wasnt a bad fighter, he could punch too. i cant believe that Ottke took him 12!! Maybe it was a fixed fight again!?

As for Echols, i dont think that would prove much. There are only two fighters(Green/Lacy) with chance against Calzaghe at super middle and both would be wise to wait a year or two, joe will slow down and be ready for the taking.

Joe's chin is Grade A, steel in my book....


The thing I like about Joe is he doesnt price himself out of matches which shows that he wants the best.......


I like calzaghe but I just dont think he would fair well against Lacy.....

Every fighter has to lose sometime in their career though.

If Ottke can be unbeaten anyone can do it, all you need is a German passport! :D

Glad To See So Many People Getting Behind Jc.... He Is By Far The Most Gifted Middleweight Out There

But I Dont Agree When Peolle Think That Hopkins Darent Fight Him, Hes Just Looking For The Big Money Fights, There Are Bigger Money Fights Out There For Hopkins At The Minute With Johnson And Arver, Even Though I Believe That Jc Would Knock All Three Of These Out

LOL!!! I shouldn`t laugh, Ottke`s fights were criminal at times. I remember Robin Rekid beating him up for 12 rounds and flooring him only to only win like 3 rounds on two of the scorecards.
If only Ottke had fought a title fight out of Germany. We might have seen how good he really was!

Glad To See So Many People Getting Behind Jc.... He Is By Far The Most Gifted Middleweight Out There

But I Dont Agree When Peolle Think That Hopkins Darent Fight Him, Hes Just Looking For The Big Money Fights, There Are Bigger Money Fights Out There For Hopkins At The Minute With Johnson And Arver, Even Though I Believe That Jc Would Knock All Three Of These Out


To call Calzaghe the most gifted middleweight? Come on you cant be entirely serious on that????


I dont blame hopkins for wanting the big fights after the garbage checks he picked up for years....

Johnson vs Hopkins doesnt appeal to me much neither does Tarver...**** I would rather see Jones vs Hopkins still then hopkins fighting those guys....

Plus Hopking is only going to be fighting for another year after january that leaves 2-3 fights left in him.....

He could rematch trinidad/de la hoya and fight sturm....Which would most likely be how it pans out....I dont see Hopkins moving up in weight after his 20th defense unless the payday was of the caliber of the dlh check he picked up......


Sturm
Trinidad
????-Retirement

Is the way I see things for hopkins, I dont see him moving up.

I hope not. Strum is young and fresh but the style is good for Hopkns and he should win a dec.
I don`t wanna watch hopkins beat up Tito again. It was great the first time, i don`t think i ever enjoyed watching someone being beaten up before until that fight ( Tito was put in his place, excellent to watch the ****y bastard get it ).
I think Howard Eastman ( unless King pays him off ) in a tough fight i believe then Hopkins will have one super fight at a new weight. If Shane Mosley beats Wright ( very unlikely ) Hopkins Mosley will happen or Tarver if he beats Johnson and becomes undisputed champ.

To call Calzaghe the most gifted middleweight? Come on you cant be entirely serious on that????

He's a physically gifted fighter, for a guy over 6ft he has super fast hands and great stamina.

He's not gifted in the skills department though!!

I hope Hopkins steps up because he's been fighting easy fights and would get a good payday against Calzaghe. Saying that i doubt he needs it after the DLH fight.

JC is a great fighter, however, he doesnt want to fight anyone that has a chance to beat him........strange man......

JC is a great fighter, however, he doesnt want to fight anyone that has a chance to beat him........strange man......

I dont understand!? he only wants to fight guys with a chance of beating him - Tarver, Johnson, Hopkins.

Maybe you should say Calzaghe doesnt get the chance to be beaten because the named fighters wont fight him!!

Calzaghe had the chance for Johnson and blew it by pissing him about, I'll be amazed if he ever fights lacy, tarver or johnson, if he is going to 175 he needs to fight a genuine top tenner since he won't be justified in getting a title shot anyway

Calzaghe had the chance for Johnson and blew it by pissing him about, I'll be amazed if he ever fights lacy, tarver or johnson, if he is going to 175 he needs to fight a genuine top tenner since he won't be justified in getting a title shot anyway

Maybe the WBO should make a good fighter mandatory!! Its the same as the Hopkins situation, making him fight Allen for a 3rd time. If the Champions want to keep their belt they have to beat these **** mandatory fighters. Its wrong.

Come on though lee, most of joes mandatories or fights are wank, and Hopkins has 3 (now 4) lots of sanctioning bs to deal with, Joe's got the weakest title and did mess Johnson about no end, one minute he's going to 175 to get another title then it's like actually I can make 168 still i'll stay here, he needs defining fights at one weight or the other, **** the belt it never did MAB any harm doing so

I love Lacy and I love JC, LAcy is a bit too young still, if an edge is too be given it's to Joe. Everyone should admit that Joe is the type of fighter that you never want to miss fight, he is very quick and loves to flat out brawl. Watch his battle with Charles Brewer. there are few fighters on the planet that can just sit in a phone booth and exchange bombs with Charles Brewer for 12 rounds! As for BHOP and those of you who think Tarver is a possibility, forget it! NArd will never go for that, he wants Tito, Hoya2 or probably the winner of Wright/Mosely. Hopkins fights for pennies outside of those two-he could make some coin with Tarver but he will never move up...never. As I recall Hopkins was offered ten million to fight three or four fights on showtime. Harry Simon was the first of them I believe. Anways the last fight was Calzaghe and Nard declined, most people I am around think that Nard would knockout Calzaghe-NO Way! Joe is huge, his walk around weight is definately not his fighting weight!

Tale of the tape
NARD CALZAGHE
Hand speed advantage joe

Power advantage joe

Chin even(only even because of the weight otherwise bhop's chin would get the edge)

This is why Hopkins did not take that fight along with the fact that it was only a 10 million dollar deal instead of 20.

Come on though lee, most of joes mandatories or fights are wank, and Hopkins has 3 (now 4) lots of sanctioning bs to deal with, Joe's got the weakest title and did mess Johnson about no end, one minute he's going to 175 to get another title then it's like actually I can make 168 still i'll stay here, he needs defining fights at one weight or the other, **** the belt it never did MAB any harm doing so

I agree, but Calzaghe not only wanted to beat Eubank but to take his record.

Calzaghe will struggle to get a defining fight with or without the belt, if he does it will be when he's slowing down and easier to beat, in a couple of years when he's lost his physical abillitys someone will take Calzaghe out and i hope he gets is defining fight in 2005 and retires before that happens.

Tarver, Johnson and Nard know Calzaghe would be a handful at their age.

i dont think he could hurt lacy as much as lacy could hurt him lacy is just to strong and big if they was the same size i would pick calzage but lacy is a monster so
lacy by knockout

i dont think he could hurt lacy as much as lacy could hurt him lacy is just to strong and big if they was the same size i would pick calzage but lacy is a monster so
lacy by knockout

They are the same size, their both big super middles.

Boxers visable size can be misleading, a fighter who runs a lot will always look smaller than a fighter who doesnt, Their body changes to make the physical activies easier, the fighter who runs becomes a more solid streamline fighter and the one who doesnt looks like a bodybuilder.

Just because Lacy looks bigger than Calzaghe doesnt mean he's stronger. The only way you can find that out is by watching there strength in action, and Lacy has yet to prove he's stronger than Calzaghe in the ring.

You have mentioned you fight yourself, have you ever out muscled a guy who's bigger than you? sure you have heavyhands!! Any fighter who couldnt beat on the bodybuilders who come to spar would be a ****ing soft *****!!

I relly am not a fan of Joe Calzhage, the man got dumped by Byron Mitchell, I mean he won but it was ugly i still think green will take Joe Apart, i think even Mundine stands a chance against Calzhage.

IMO, Syd Vanderpool ran out of gas, and that's what allowed Lacy to win. He just gets hit too much by anyone with decent handspeed, and when he fights someone with a real punch, he'll either have to tighten his defense up, or lose. The only thing that impressed me about the Lacy/Vanderpool fight was his chin. Lacy has decent speed, but IMO, he's no faster than a 23 year old Tyson, and that's not fast for a 168 pound fighter. I think Scott Pemberton would kick his ass too.

I relly am not a fan of Joe Calzhage, the man got dumped by Byron Mitchell, I mean he won but it was ugly i still think green will take Joe Apart, i think even Mundine stands a chance against Calzhage.

It was while Calzaghe was on beating on Mitchell, everyone gets caught like that at least once in their career.

I have heard a couple of people knocking Mitchell but he's a good boxer, he can punch too. I was sure Mithcell would KO Ottke until i saw how negative Mitchell was fighting, that was a fix.

I think Green gives Calzaghe a good fight and Calzghe knocks Mundine out in 1 round.

I take it your an aussie, kangeroo on your avatar and speaking about Green and Mundine. Oh yeah the thunder from down under gives it away a little

Yeah I'm an aussie, and sometimes (Foolishly) let the old patriotic pride cloud my vision of the truth, but i think green will beat Calzhage, but hey your probably right about mundine, but i wouldn't underestimate mundine, after losing to siaca, he has been in blistering form.

he's been sparring with some good fighters here in aus.

Yeah I'm an aussie, and sometimes (Foolishly) let the old patriotic pride cloud my vision of the truth, but i think green will beat Calzhage, but hey your probably right about mundine, but i wouldn't underestimate mundine, after losing to siaca, he has been in blistering form.

he's been sparring with some good fighters here in aus.

Mundine looks a good fighter at times, but if Ottke knock Mundine out then i hate to think what Green or Calzaghe would do to him!!

**** sake, i ****ing hate you Yarmez!! I bet you live next to the beach and i live in england!!! :p :D

Actually, I used to live close to the beach, but i live on a Farm Now, it's huge, but it's cool, i have to drive to the city every morning for work.

but my farm is just outside the city, so it aint that far.

they aint the same size becuase lacy has negative bodyfat and calzage gots about 8 or 9 precent

they aint the same size becuase lacy has negative bodyfat and calzage gots about 8 or 9 precent

How many pounds does that work out at? where did you get them figures form anyway?

Yeah I'm an aussie, and sometimes (Foolishly) let the old patriotic pride cloud my vision of the truth, but i think green will beat Calzhage, but hey your probably right about mundine, but i wouldn't underestimate mundine, after losing to siaca, he has been in blistering form.

he's been sparring with some good fighters here in aus.

G'Day Mate ! Been to Sydney a few years back. Must admit that you got one hell of a place there (esp. King's Cross, haha). A lot of talk has been goin around lately about the upcoming fight of your boy St. Claire against Manny in Dec. Would be interested on your take on this seemingly dangerous fighter from down under. How do you assess him?

Hang hang! Calzaghe wanted the big fights, and offer was made to Bernard Hopkins and all it needed was Hop`s signiture and he didn`t sign.
Calzaghe has never ducked anyone. They have avoided him.
As for the bull**** regarding Joe`s `weak` chin, that is a fairy tale. Robin Reid, Brewer and Mitchell tested it. Yes, Joe got caught and went down but he got straight back up and ended the fight seconds later. How the hell does a man with a bad chin get knocked down and then stops the guy a minute later. If Joe had been hurt he would have backed off. Thats like saying Muhammad Ali had a bad chin when he was floored by Brit Henry Cooper. for my money 37 fights unbeaten with one flash knock down does not consitute a bad chin.
Danny Green would not want to fight Joe and Lacy would sooner dive off the statue of liberty rather than fight Joe.
Realize that Joe is the real deal and if these payday hungry wanna bes were to fight him we`d all find out!

I just thought I'd dig up a few interesting threads. I guess you were right about this argument wer'nt you :D

this thread is well funny all you yanks bigin up jeff lacy and sayin calzaghe has no chance lol i love it when us brits beat your ass

nice thread lol.

Laughing my dick off......
Jeff Lacy..Yeah he reallyt kicked ass..

Some people are full of ****e..they only see the good points of fighters they like..
Then they open their big mouths and make a fool of themselves..
Classic..

im lmao at : Restless idiot , Spinxjinx and that idiot thread starter.... lmao whatta buncha ***gots these guyz are.. :D

Man, rough thread for Spinxjinx. Hehe.

this thread is well funny all you yanks bigin up jeff lacy and sayin calzaghe has no chance lol i love it when us brits beat your ass




Jeff"The St Petersburg punching bag"Lacy :D :D :D

his reign in the super middleweight division in the course of 7 or 8 years

im lmao at : Restless idiot , Spinxjinx and that idiot thread starter.... lmao whatta buncha ***gots these guyz are.. :D
do u do anything besides rant about the fact u think everyone is an idiot i mean really. listen to urself

I think Calzaghe is very talented and has had a good career but I hear PPL on here bash Tarver and RJJ and even PBF about who they've fought and basically scrutinizing their moves. But to be 35 and to say Hall of famer's ducked and are scared of you but their bigger names in the sport and have better resumee's by far so like the younger and less experienced Lacy showed balls and fought him on his soil and gave credit in defeat. Why can't Calzaghe have done this by now? Even RJJ he fought several of the better fighter's of their era (Tarver,Hopkins,Tony,Johnson) so how come Calzaghe gets a pass, I'm not tryna bash him I think he's a good fighter but he's too talented to not have better challenges by now and from here on out. I know PPL will say nobody wanted to fight him but we all know if him and his team wanted to they could've made these fight's. They might have had to leave Europe for ppl who had bigger names but would be worth it to get his recognition and paydays. I'm just being honest if it was any other fighter that was talented and highly regarded they would have to have made bigger fight's by now otherwise they'd be talked about crazily. I hope he fights Johnson and not 1 of those Manfredo type fights I was hearing.

Decent fighter w/ better then average hand speed and packs a punch....Controls a division where NOBODY is....So he makes the most noise and he is the star of 168.......Jeff Lacy enters, Calzaghe is no more...True Story....You wont hear much of him now that Lacy owns that division


.........LMAO

Yes, it is evident that Jeff Lacy is OWNING the division.

The big buzz on Joe Calzaghe is, well, take a look at Jeff Lacy's grill after they fought.

cobracore are you being serious when you say lacy is owning the division he got his ass kicked when he fought calzaghe its calzaghes division

LMAO at this thread. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was sarcastic =p

I'm not tryna bash him I think he's a good fighter but he's too talented to not have better challenges by now and from here on out. I know PPL will say nobody wanted to fight him but we all know if him and his team wanted to they could've made these fight's.

From BBC.co.uk today

"We talked to the guy who beat Howard Eastman [Edison Miranda] and his management said yes, but then he turned down the fight."

Calzaghe was philosophical about the delay, saying: "I've been through it before.

"Maybe people are thinking twice after seeing my last performance against Jeff Lacy.

I'm extremely disappointed in Lacy. He was an overhyped fighter extremely in my opinion. That being said, I don't think Calzaghe is anything special. Lacy was just a poor fighter that many people exagerrated.

Jeff Lacy enters, Calzaghe is no more...True Story....You wont hear much of him now that Lacy owns that division

this is an old thread and im sure you have changed your opinions

I'm extremely disappointed in Lacy. He was an overhyped fighter extremely in my opinion. That being said, I don't think Calzaghe is anything special. Lacy was just a poor fighter that many people exagerrated.

Did you watch that fight?

No one could have touched Joe that night.

His work rate alone makes him "special".

its funny readin the first few posts on this thread, the hype about lacy was a joke, and the nagativity towards cal..