Outside of a select few rap artists as a whole they are irresponsible role models for the black community. Notice how the positive rappers for the most part do not get the big endorsement deals. Common gets gap and notice who gets the Movie roles and big time commercial success. All while the rich execs fly over the ghettos they help thrive.

Seriously legitimizing the degradation of an entire group of women with what amounts to verbal slavery is disgusting.

Black women are by far the highest percentage of unmarried mothers and single women over thirty five is not surprising. When all you listen to is yous a ho and a gold digger what would make these women appealing for marriage?

We need more men like Bill Cosby and CORE to preach against this trite putrid vile that is being mass produced.

Honestly the White Music executive cares nothing about the Black Community and are completely using these Artists that know what sells whether they believe it our not. They are selling out a whole generation of children and I for one don't want to hear the *****ing when prisons continue to be overrun with the products of single family homes.

STFU you bon jovi ho!

well......

for every 50 cent, there is a johnny horton.(orwhateverthe**** that racist ****s name was.)

I told Buddy to put his whole post in this forum, but he left this part out:

I'm so sick of rap music and everything that comes from that sector of society. It's nothing but stupid ******s and wannabe suburban white boys trying to act tough. Kayjay, real crackas like you and me would have any of those cunts.

I told Buddy to put his whole post in this forum, but he left this part out:

Thank you for editing the N word for me.

for every 50 cent, there is a johnny horton.(orwhateverthe**** that racist ****s name was.)

Well David Allan Coe isn't getting the major endorsement deals or appearing in Movies like Ludacris is though is he. 50 cent gets main street air play and appears in Music videos when MTV starts playing Skinhead Punk then you have a point. As of now it isn't valid.

Your problem seems more race related. That's the vibe I'm picking up from you here.

Rappers are no more a representation of black people as a whole than Larry the Cable Guy is of white people

Hip Hop needs more artists like these guys:

Binary Star - Honest Expression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nVzSr3yDcA

Binary Star - Reality Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnD_CXnXEB8

Forget the videos, just listen to the lyrics!

Rappers are no more a representation of black people as a whole than Larry the Cable Guy is of white people
Barack Obama, Condoleeza Rice, Tim Duncan, Oprah Winfrey, Morgan Freeman...there are many, many African-Americans in mainstream view to counter what the thread starter views as irresponsible.

I don't see Black people busting in on Big & Rich singing "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy" exclaiming "What about the children!?!!"

Barack Obama, Condoleeza Rice, Tim Duncan, Oprah Winfrey, Morgan Freeman...there are many, many African-Americans in mainstream view to counter what the thread starter views as irresponsible.

I don't see Black people busting in on Big & Rich singing "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy" exclaiming "What about the children!?!!"

Do poor minorities really value what these people think for the most part? Ludacris or the Game carries more weight than the ones you name. You just named a group not exactly of ghetto icons. Louis Gossett Jr didn't make the list.lol Fat Middle Age white women listen to Big and Rich when they start car jacking to make up for a lack of a daddy in the home I will start *****ing.

The lack of a fatherly figure in many african american homes is not Rap's fault though. People just need to learn to stop taking stuff so seriously, there were ghetto's before rap and if rap stopped playing there would still be ghetto's. I give the artists a creative licence.

The lack of a fatherly figure in many african american homes is not Rap's fault though. People just need to learn to stop taking stuff so seriously, there were ghetto's before rap and if rap stopped playing there would still be ghetto's. I give the artists a creative licence.

It is enhancing the problem is all. Imagine if all rap talked of the Black Womans strength less would settle for scraps. They should still not be so irresponsible with that license though. Black Kids are just taught to look up to the wrong people is all by the money makers. Kids take this seriously and don't realize most is made up.

Do poor minorities really value what these people think for the most part? Ludacris or the Game carries more weight than the ones you name. You just named a group not exactly of ghetto icons. Louis Gossett Jr didn't make the list.lol Fat Middle Age white women listen to Big and Rich when they start car jacking to make up for a lack of a daddy in the home I will start *****ing.
C'mon, Buddy, you've got an American flag in your custom title. Roll with that whole "freedom" concept; if these kids make their own choice as to who their role models are, then how is it the fault of the "poor choices" when it's them that the kids choose (there's bad syntax all over that sentence)

The point is, there could be a very persuasive research paper done where social problems within the Black community, or at least social traits, are affected by how some prominent members are presented to the masses. However, it can be flipped - and maybe guys willing to make money off of playing a role (most of them are playing a role on CD, like they would in a movie) that some perceive as exploiting certain elements of their culture is a reaction to existing social problems.

Also white music execs are bankrolling a lot of labels, but they're not ultimately behind it. NWA was doing dirty raps at parties long before Jerry Heller came along.

Also, if you blame music for a kid committing a crime, you're letting the human get off too easy. I've heard a lot of violence on CD and seen it in movies and was somehow able to avoid recreating those scenes in real life.

Excellent post buddy but, not sure what I think.


True though, black people (not just black people) glorify crime in rap. So it does reinforce a stereotype

I gotta agree theres always been ghettoes and there always will be. If there wasnt rap thered by some other form of music that was blamed for social problems. Lead Belly used to sing about aint it a shame to beat your wife on a Sunday when you got Monday,Tuesday,wednesday,Thursday,friday aint it a shame but I dont think any wife beaters would think "yeah the guys gotta point, i'll leave off her on a Sunday". Rappers are just singing about stuff that theyve grown up around or have been through its catch 22 situation I guess. The audience feeds of the imagery and lyrics of gangsta rap but the gangsta rappers are just rapping about where they from, its not like they say "go n drug deal n kill people, disrespect your women", and even if they were people have to make their own choices. Blaming rappers for social ills is like blaming a bar tender because he served you then you drove and got a driving ban.

Every music genre has it faults. Bottomline is if you don't care for it, don't listen. The thing thats great about the world is theres somthing for everybody whether its music, sports etc.

C'mon, Buddy, you've got an American flag in your custom title. Roll with that whole "freedom" concept;
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Also white music execs are bankrolling a lot of labels, but they're not ultimately behind it. NWA was doing dirty raps at parties long before Jerry Heller came along.


that deserves an
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:hail: :usa:

Outside of a select few rap artists as a whole they are irresponsible role models for the black community. Notice how the positive rappers for the most part do not get the big endorsement deals. Common gets gap and notice who gets the Movie roles and big time commercial success. All while the rich execs fly over the ghettos they help thrive.

Seriously legitimizing the degradation of an entire group of women with what amounts to verbal slavery is disgusting.

Black women are by far the highest percentage of unmarried mothers and single women over thirty five is not surprising. When all you listen to is yous a ho and a gold digger what would make these women appealing for marriage?

We need more men like Bill Cosby and CORE to preach against this trite putrid vile that is being mass produced.

Honestly the White Music executive cares nothing about the Black Community and are completely using these Artists that know what sells whether they believe it our not. They are selling out a whole generation of children and I for one don't want to hear the *****ing when prisons continue to be overrun with the products of single family homes.
You make a good post playa..This is the same stuff most have been preaching since day one....My only knock is that rappers are doing there jobs..When they result to off the mic bull****/trouble/problem then that's when it becomes a problem...If funny that it is ok for a comedian to dog man, woman or beast but a rapper is the devil when he does it..

TI - "I'm just doing my job"...

I know most rappers make **** up... but must of the **** they talk about it is the **** they grew up with.

You want them to spit the truth, that's what they're doing.

This thread is pointless IMO

I know most rappers make **** up... but must of the **** they talk about it is the **** they grew up with.

You want them to spit the truth, that's what they're doing.

This thread is pointless IMO

Don't you know the every rapper is realer than the last one, they all spit firey truth

and that's the truth

Rap/Hip-Hop music was created predominately by African-Americans in urban areas. Hip-Hop originated from Rhythm and Blues(R&B) and rock ‘n’ roll. Today, Hip-Hop is probably the most popular form of music, with different artists of different races. It’s seems to be self evident in this genre, too many of the popular artists are leading or have led lives of crime and violence. Being surrounded by alcohol, drugs, and firearms: which raise many questions to the head of our society the United States government. It is understandable but not acceptable. When kids listen to their role models making music about: rapping, killing, thieving, doing and selling drugs. In order to get the nicest close, the most expensive cars, loads of money, and beautiful women. These become false dreams and, develop a somewhat apathetic behavior for the youth who resort to this life style.

It seems Hip-Hop is embracing this lifestyle. At one time Hip-Hop was about trying to leave this way of life behind and to not be stuck around these negative influences. I feel these artists tried to send out a positive message, as to try to prevent the destruction of young lives and give them knowledge for a better chance to lead a successful life. Presently there is a smaller amount of artists still making efforts to relay this message through their music.

Unfortunately very little of these more positive artists are well known, and will most likely never get played on the “radio”, and won’t be heard by enough people that are willing to make a change to the current situation.

Rap/Hip-Hop music was created predominately by African-Americans in urban areas. Hip-Hop originated from Rhythm and Blues(R&B) and rock ‘n’ roll. Today, Hip-Hop is probably the most popular form of music, with different artists of different races. It’s seems to be self evident in this genre, too many of the popular artists are leading or have led lives of crime and violence. Being surrounded by alcohol, drugs, and firearms: which raise many questions to the head of our society the United States government. It is understandable but not acceptable. When kids listen to their role models making music about: rapping, killing, thieving, doing and selling drugs. In order to get the nicest close, the most expensive cars, loads of money, and beautiful women. These become false dreams and, develop a somewhat apathetic behavior for the youth who resort to this life style.

It seems Hip-Hop is embracing this lifestyle. At one time Hip-Hop was about trying to leave this way of life behind and to not be stuck around these negative influences. I feel these artists tried to send out a positive message, as to try to prevent the destruction of young lives and give them knowledge for a better chance to lead a successful life. Presently there is a smaller amount of artists still making efforts to relay this message through their music.

Unfortunately very little of these more positive artists are well known, and will most likely never get played on the “radio”, and won’t be heard by enough people that are willing to make a change to the current situation.

Even when that's not what the music is about, once most of these guys get record deals, they do leave everything else behind, because they did make it out, even though they're still rapping about the hood. Who would still choose to live like they're poor or associate themselves with criminals once they start getting big checks? Thing is, there is still a lot of gangsta posturing bull**** that some of these guys wind up believing & living well beyond when it might ever be appropriate - and some of these guys we know about because they end up locked up in prison or dead. What a waste.

People need to **** off about 50 Cent. The man is as real as it gets, and has never said he wasn't in it for the money & the fame. He's also smart as hell and a good role model for black youths to get out of the ghetto.

yes i agree

rap at it's best is Rhythm And Poetry