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Hawk O'Connor
10-28-2007, 09:42 PM
I understand everything your saying Hawkins believe me I do. I'm not some young punk who doesn't see things through thoroughly. I know can break down my anatomy of the sport without a problem. Your right about the older fighters having the benefits of what the newer ones have being the key to how they would do in these eras. If anything there was more toughness in the older eras as oppose to skill. When you think of it though, there is only so far toughness could get you, laying down the correct punch with the correct amount of force and any tough guy would turn into a *****. Its just the matter of skill level and the power to back it, that is how you stop a tough guy. Intimation played a bigger role back then because of how tough the fighters were, you couldn't knock them down with all you had so you fold up. I don't think people realize if your not mentally fit your not going to make it and you can lose this mental control at any time. One punch is all it takes to ends things if you have that one punch.

In all honesty I get what your saying I just don't really agree with your assessment of it!

The size and speed of the newer guys aside, I truly think the older guys were far better and more experienced on a whole. And I say this becayuse they fought alot more and alot more often. You can't compare someone in experience when at 25 one has 30 fights and one has 90 fights. I mean truthfully there is no comparison.

One thing I do not like about today's fighter are that most of them are so protected and rarely fight the best opposition available instead focusing on one of the dozens of alphabet titles floating around. Todays guys are coddled to the point its sickening. The older guys had to fight the best if they wanted to make the best money. Today any club fighter can have an ABCDEF belt and thats mostly all that matters so they can promote a PPV as a world title fight.

Anyways, I digress. I see where you're coming from but in the end its all just a matter of preference.

Hawk

metalinmybrain
10-28-2007, 09:56 PM
The size and speed of the newer guys aside, I truly think the older guys were far better and more experienced on a whole. And I say this becayuse they fought alot more and alot more often. You can't compare someone in experience when at 25 one has 30 fights and one has 90 fights. I mean truthfully there is no comparison.

One thing I do not like about today's fighter are that most of them are so protected and rarely fight the best opposition available instead focusing on one of the dozens of alphabet titles floating around. Todays guys are coddled to the point its sickening. The older guys had to fight the best if they wanted to make the best money. Today any club fighter can have an ABCDEF belt and thats mostly all that matters so they can promote a PPV as a world title fight.

Anyways, I digress. I see where you're coming from but in the end its all just a matter of preference.

Hawk

But again, I say skill over comes toughness and in all due respect that is what the older eras were based on toughness. When I think of Joe Louis, I think of a fighter who through combinations second to none, in that era (30's). If you look closely though, his combinations weren't that fast nor accurate as some of the ones you will see in the later eras of boxers. On Max Schmelling he throws a body shot then follows it with a hook to the head, in real time it took him about 2 seconds just to land those two shots. Most of the fighters back then relied on throwing one punch at a time, pacing the fight. Rocky Marciano a guy who couldn't fight on the outside so he would lean up on your chest in an era where this was allowed, he would perform a complete circle from head to knees then come up with a very predictable hook. This is what broke down most of his opponents, it wasn't skill it was toughness and the lack of skill in his opposition. Compared to fighters like Foreman Ali Tyson Holyfield Tua, guys that throw punches from every which way, guys that are light on their feet and show extreme movement. Any one of those guys would finish an older fighter because of how fast the job will get done. You speak of speed and size being the factor for the newer fighters but you also forget to mention that its all you would really need against the older fighters. I think right after the 50
s was the signal for the turning point in skill power speed talent in the boxing world. Although the mental physic to stay focused on the sport has diminished rapidly, starting from the later 90's. The sport of boxing has always progressed sense the turning point and is now and only now on it's first decline.

Your entitled to your opinion on things Hawkins but I'm sorry if I see things a bit different because I took psychology and majored in it!

Take care.

Hawk O'Connor
10-28-2007, 10:05 PM
But again, I say skill over comes toughness and in all due respect that is what the older eras were based on toughness.

Let me pose a question then - How can you say it was based solely on toughness when some of the best boxing technicians ever came from the older eras?

Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Ezzard Charles and Charley Burley just to name a few....All of these guys were superb technicians in their day.

The older guys were tougher - but they weren't based solely around that fact.

them_apples
10-28-2007, 10:15 PM
Let me pose a question then - How can you say it was based solely on toughness when some of the best boxing technicians ever came from the older eras?

Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Ezzard Charles and Charley Burley just to name a few....All of these guys were superb technicians in their day.

The older guys were tougher - but they weren't based solely around that fact.

those guys are nothing interesting anymore, many boxers have bested there styles and improved on it. (no disrespect, only comparison)

You say they have more experience, actually they have more "pro fights" but all boxers from the 70's and up still sparred every day with even ex boxers (aka foreman sparred with Liston, Tyson sparred with Lewis) all in all they get the same amount of "fight time" just in different places.

Hawk O'Connor
10-28-2007, 10:18 PM
those guys are nothing interesting anymore, many boxers have bested there styles and improved on it. (no disrespect, only comparison)

You say they have more experience, actually they have more "pro fights" but all boxers from the 70's and up still sparred every day with even ex boxers (aka foreman sparred with Liston, Tyson sparred with Lewis) all in all they get the same amount of "fight time" just in different places.


With all due respect sparring is not the same as an actual fight.

metalinmybrain
10-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Let me pose a question then - How can you say it was based solely on toughness when some of the best boxing technicians ever came from the older eras?

Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Ezzard Charles and Charley Burley just to name a few....All of these guys were superb technicians in their day.

The older guys were tougher - but they weren't based solely around that fact.

Hawkins how big were those guys? We are talking about the heavyweight division. Well at least I am. Allot of the lighter weight classes back then showed extreme talent and durability, why do you think Sugar Ray Robinson is the toughest son of a ***** around. He had extreme skill and raw talent with the toughness of a gladiator trying to conquer all in front of him. It takes tremendous skill and power to generate knockouts everyone knows that. Compared to the eras of before in the heavyweight division, there have been more knockouts in the heavyweight division. 20's 30's 40's 50's compared to 60's 70's 80's 90's the newer generation created more knockouts there for having the better line up off skill and raw power.

I'm not basing the heavyweight divisions of those earlier eras solely on toughness but it is what gave that era any success. Later on it became boring to witness 12 to 15 even 20 rounds and up fights people wanted knockouts and the sport of boxing later committed to having the best of that desire. Knockouts are what the people really want and the earlier eras didn't have as much as the later ones. Sorry.:smashfrea

metalinmybrain
10-28-2007, 10:24 PM
With all due respect sparring is not the same as an actual fight.

In all due respect if most certainly can play the same role as a real fight. No one going into any type of fight wants to be humiliated and lose. Tyson sparing against Lewis was something spectacular. Lewis had no answer for what Tyson brought to the table and it is only obvious that he didn't have it anymore when Lewis faced him in the pro ring for the first time. Depending on the situation a sparring match could mean the world to any fighter who doesn't want to lose even in a sparring ring. There is allot more pressure applied in a pro fight there for making it more liable for the boxer to freeze up or lose focus and concentration. It happens all the time Hawkins!

Hawk O'Connor
10-28-2007, 10:26 PM
those guys are nothing interesting anymore, many boxers have bested there styles and improved on it. (no disrespect, only comparison)




With all due respect they are very interesting'. Besides, I beg to differ. There has yet to be anyone best the style of Ray Robinson. He stands alone at the top of the heap.

Hawk O'Connor
10-28-2007, 10:28 PM
In all due respect if most certainly can play the same role as a real fight. No one going into any type of fight wants to be humiliated and lose. Tyson sparing against Lewis was something spectacular. Lewis had no answer for what Tyson brought to the table and it is only obvious that he didn't have it anymore when Lewis faced him in the pro ring for the first time. Depending on the situation a sparring match could mean the world to any fighter who doesn't want to lose even in a sparring ring. There is allot more pressure applied in a pro fight there for making it more liable for the boxer to freeze up or lose focus and concentration. It happens all the time Hawkins!

Most sparring partners these days aren't trying to knock your head off. Most are their to play a certain role and emulate the style of an opponet you are going to face.

Sparring can never be compared to an actual fight, besides that wouldn't prove anything because the older guys sparred just as much.

metalinmybrain
10-29-2007, 12:37 AM
Most sparring partners these days aren't trying to knock your head off. Most are their to play a certain role and emulate the style of an opponet you are going to face.

Sparring can never be compared to an actual fight, besides that wouldn't prove anything because the older guys sparred just as much.

Back to the subject of this thread Hawkins, OK! Now, who are the pound for pound hardest punchers of all time? Mike Tyson at number one for me.:grumble:

Hawk O'Connor
10-29-2007, 12:52 AM
Back to the subject of this thread Hawkins, OK! Now, who are the pound for pound hardest punchers of all time? Mike Tyson at number one for me.:grumble:

Truthfully, we could make a case for any number of guys. Currently I've been researching "The Michigan Assassin" Stanley Ketchel. A strong case could be made for him because he was a murderous puncher.

Any number of guys - Wilfredo Gomez, Julian Jackson - the list could go on for days...

Jim Jeffries
10-29-2007, 12:03 PM
Back to the subject of this thread Hawkins, OK! Now, who are the pound for pound hardest punchers of all time? Mike Tyson at number one for me.:grumble:

Mike has to be the hardest hitting heavyweight first before he can qualify for the top of any p4p lists. Mike knocked people out with an accumulation of punches, impressive combinations, and constant pressure.

catskills23
10-29-2007, 12:23 PM
My facts are wrong? Get out of here kid, who the hell are you to turn things around. Stewart literally threw in the towel against Tyson because he hit that hard. All of Tyson's opponents who faced him that couldn't take his punch power gave up mentally, either that or they couldn't hit him. In this case Stewart couldn't take his power, but stood there with Foreman all the way. Stewart literally said Tyson hits harder than Foreman. Also said Holyfield wasn't hurting me more than the ref did by stopping the fight. An 8th round TKO not knocked off his feet pal. Said Tyson hits harder than him. Saverese clearly stated that Tyson hit him the hardest he has ever been hit. He wasn't even pissed that the ref stopped the fight, he didn't even get paid for that fight. No matter he didn't want a rematch because he said Tyson was an animal in the ring who doesn't listen to the rules but hits as hard as bricks on his fists.

Get the hell out of here enough of your fairy tell bull **** stories.:owned:

where are you getting your facts from?. holyfield said bowe and foreman hit harder than tyson . pinklon thomas said tommy morrison hit much harder than tyson . Larry holmes said that shavers,ken norton and gerry cooney all hit harder than tyson . tyrell biggs said jeff sims hit harder than tyson. frank bruno said bonecrusher smith hit harder than tyson.

them_apples
10-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Larry Holmes is totally full of BS though, Holmes HATED Tyson, I wouldn't doubt that he said that but he's full of it. (I mean Ken Norton? lol)

The other guys I need proof. There is also lots of proof that people say Tyson's punches where the most brutal they had been hit by.

Mike has to be the hardest hitting heavyweight first before he can qualify for the top of any p4p lists. Mike knocked people out with an accumulation of punches, impressive combinations, and constant pressure.

Your forgetting the fight's that he knocked guys out with one punch. Name one fighter that is a better one hit KO artist than Tyson, Tua is close maybe.

ROSS CALIFORNIA
10-29-2007, 06:31 PM
Mike has to be the hardest hitting heavyweight first before he can qualify for the top of any p4p lists. Mike knocked people out with an accumulation of punches, impressive combinations, and constant pressure.

Tyson could hurt you with any punch he threw, he just had to land the ones he was throwing with force. No boxer ever throws every punch with all their might, they'll get tired too quick. True, it did take accumulation to get a lot of those guys out of there but that's because they all ran from him, clinched, and concentrated on safety first. It's hard for any fighter to knock a fighter out that's trying very hard not to get knocked out. When a fighter tried to fight Mike, they got knocked out. BTW I'm talking about the first Tyson, not the piece of crap he became after Rooney. There will always be someone out there that can take your best punch, but with Tyson, that was very few men.

Jim Jeffries
10-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Tyson could hurt you with any punch he threw, he just had to land the ones he was throwing with force. No boxer ever throws every punch with all their might, they'll get tired too quick. True, it did take accumulation to get a lot of those guys out of there but that's because they all ran from him, clinched, and concentrated on safety first. It's hard for any fighter to knock a fighter out that's trying very hard not to get knocked out. When a fighter tried to fight Mike, they got knocked out. BTW I'm talking about the first Tyson, not the piece of crap he became after Rooney. There will always be someone out there that can take your best punch, but with Tyson, that was very few men.

You mean the one that fought Tony Tucker, right? Yawn, yup he was the best, lol.

Jim Jeffries
10-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Larry Holmes is totally full of BS though, Holmes HATED Tyson, I wouldn't doubt that he said that but he's full of it. (I mean Ken Norton? lol)

The other guys I need proof. There is also lots of proof that people say Tyson's punches where the most brutal they had been hit by.



Your forgetting the fight's that he knocked guys out with one punch. Name one fighter that is a better one hit KO artist than Tyson, Tua is close maybe.

Here's a few:
Foreman, Shavers and Liston.

newforce
10-29-2007, 10:06 PM
vic darchinyian

newforce
10-29-2007, 10:07 PM
mike tyson

them_apples
10-29-2007, 10:29 PM
Foreman, Shavers and Liston

wow your living in denial if you think they were better KO artists than Tyson,

Foreman lol? give me a break he continually beat on people for many rounds most of the time.

metalinmybrain
10-30-2007, 02:01 AM
You mean the one that fought Tony Tucker, right? Yawn, yup he was the best, lol.

Tony Tucker was undefeated kid, he was fighting to win and not to survive. Fought Tyson the best he could fight him, Tucker being undefeated meant allot in that fight because mentally Tucker never knew he could be beat so it gave him a plus on how he fought that night, that and the addition that he was fighting to keep his title and record clean as well as taking Tyson's titles. Up to that point Tucker could have fought any one in the history of boxing and given a great match, he was a great contender who scared the **** out of George Foreman. Remember that Tucker was old as well people.

It's hard to look past the picture when it expresses so many words that idiots like you tend to over look because they cannot understand or cope!

ROSS CALIFORNIA
10-30-2007, 04:23 AM
You mean the one that fought Tony Tucker, right? Yawn, yup he was the best, lol.
That was actually a good fight for Tyson. It was the Smith fight that made Tyson look bad. Every great fighter had their lame fights while in their prime, or what we perceive as lame (because they didn't perform up to what we thought they were capable of). But everyone already knows that. LOL

ROSS CALIFORNIA
10-30-2007, 04:32 AM
Up to that point Tucker could have fought any one in the history of boxing and given a great match, he was a great contender who scared the **** out of George Foreman.
Also,(and I'm sure you might remember) Spinks gave up his share of the heavyweight title so he wouldn't have to defend against Tucker who was a mandatory challenger. Tucker had a damn good chin to take that incredible left hook from Tyson near the end of the 12th round.

http://aol.tmz.com/2007/08/24/mike-tysons-wacked-out-fan-must-see-tmz/

Hawk O'Connor
10-30-2007, 11:25 AM
Tony Tucker was undefeated kid, he was fighting to win and not to survive. Fought Tyson the best he could fight him, Tucker being undefeated meant allot in that fight because mentally Tucker never knew he could be beat so it gave him a plus on how he fought that night, that and the addition that he was fighting to keep his title and record clean as well as taking Tyson's titles. Up to that point Tucker could have fought any one in the history of boxing and given a great match, he was a great contender who scared the **** out of George Foreman. Remember that Tucker was old as well people.

It's hard to look past the picture when it expresses so many words that idiots like you tend to over look because they cannot understand or cope!


Tucker broke his hand early in his fight with Tyson I do believe, thus negating one of his best weapons.

hemichromis
10-30-2007, 01:16 PM
i really think tucker could have gone far if it wasn;t for tyson and his cocaine problems

Hawk O'Connor
10-30-2007, 01:25 PM
i really think tucker could have gone far if it wasn;t for tyson and his cocaine problems

I think being kept out of the Olympics really set the precedent for his career. He was favored to win the gold after his win at the Pan American games. If he had gone on and won a gold, probably would have led to a totally different career.

All apples and oranges now, but I think that was the tipping point.

Onlyme
11-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Earnie Shavers hardest puncher in history.

Jim Jeffries
11-05-2007, 04:11 PM
Earnie Shavers hardest puncher in history.

Didn't do him much good when Jerry Quarry KO'd him in the 1st round.

Hawk O'Connor
11-05-2007, 10:44 PM
I've been doing some research on Terry McGovern, if he hasn't been mentioned in this thread he should be. The man is often described as a small, earlier version of Mike Tyson whom had dynamite in both hands.

Jim Jeffries
11-05-2007, 11:03 PM
Marvin Hagler, Manny Pacquiao, Sam Langford, Sandy Saddler, Thomas Hearns (at welterweight), Roberto Duran (at lightweight), Rocky Marciano and Henry Armstrong in no particular order.

Burning Desire
11-08-2007, 12:51 PM
Not in any Order.

Julian Jackson
Wilfredo Gomez
Carlos Zarate
Rocky Macriano
Mike Tyson
Earnie Shavers
George Foreman

Are the ones that come to mind first.

roby_acer
11-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Mike tyson? hell no,p4p a lot of people hit harder than mike & if he hit THAT hard how did he not ko douglas but holyfeild did with one shot psh!

Anyway-

No order!

Chopo rosario
Pepino Cuevas
Thomas Hearns
Ron Lyle
George Foreman
Tito Trinidad
Salvador Sanchez
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Tommy Morrison
Edwin Valero (lmfao)

There are so many

GJC
11-26-2009, 02:20 PM
Lots of posts and haven't read them all, but anyone mention Archie Moore?

Kiid Dynamite
11-26-2009, 02:32 PM
McClenan
Tyson
Shavers
Foreman
Duran
Jackson

no order

1SILVA
11-26-2009, 02:42 PM
I know that I am going to just get Tito, Tito, Tito.....with this thread, but seriously Tito does not have a proven one-punch finish. I want to see who is considered the best puncher p4p as proven by their ability to end fights with a single punch regardless of the opposition, be it a p4p top-ten fighter or a chump. Tito I add is not reknowned for dropping people with one-shot and keeping them there, he usually hits them several times.

1. Julian Jackson (widely considered p4p hardest hitter)
2. Mike Tyson (I think the hardest puncher in history)
3. Nigel Benn
4. Gerald McCllelan
5. Thomas Hearns
6. John Mugabi
7. Razor Ruddock (Tyson said he hit him the hardest)
8. Acelino Freitas (I dislike him, but he can bang)
9. Lennox Lewis (Tyson, Ruddock, Rock, Botha)
10.Rocky Marciano
11.Earnie Shavers
12.Arturo Gatti (Ruelas, Gamache)
13.George Foreman (Norton, Frazier)
14.Felix Trinidad
15.Archie Moore
16.Manny Pacquiao(Mab,Jmm)"Harder Hitting Featherweight of all time"

Hearns
Pacquiao
Hamed
Foreman
Arguello
Gomez
Roy Jones
Trinidad
Zarate
Ketchel
Robinson

Alec900
11-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Julian Jackson,Bob Foster,Wilfredo Gomez,Carlos Zarate,Arthur Abraham...

mhager91490
11-26-2009, 08:22 PM
I think for pure punching power Danny Lopez is right up there with anyone that was listed previously, he has produced many one punch KO's.

Other than Lopez my list goes like this:

Bob Foster
Julian Jackson
Wilfredo Gomez
Bob Fitzsimmons
Ernie Shavers
Mike Tyson
Stanley Ketchel
Gerald McClellan
George Foreman

JAB5239
11-27-2009, 03:37 AM
I think for pure punching power Danny Lopez is right up there with anyone that was listed previously, he has produced many one punch KO's.

Other than Lopez my list goes like this:

Bob Foster
Julian Jackson
Wilfredo Gomez
Bob Fitzsimmons
Ernie Shavers
Mike Tyson
Stanley Ketchel
Gerald McClellan
George Foreman

With all due respect, Im curious how McClellan makes ANYONES top 10 punchers list. He was a good fighter, but he wasn't the wrecking machine any of these guys or many others were during their careers.

them_apples
11-27-2009, 03:46 AM
Asian...

You're new to this sport, huh ?
Welcome.

No offense....but sal Sanchez is not one of the best punchers in featherweight history. Not even close.
He's one of it's best fighters, that's for sure.

Manny Pac ? Doesn't rate, either.

Danny Lopez, Antonio Esparragoza, & Alexis Arguello were all bigger one-punch hitters than Manny .
If they were given as many opportunities to land on Marquez as was Manny, Marquez would have been knocked out cold.


at FW Manny definitely should be considered one of the biggest hitters. He could deck anyone with his left hand out of nowhere.

also, prince naseem was a good puncher, and yea..lopez as you mentioned

ROSS CALIFORNIA
11-27-2009, 03:54 AM
1. Tyson, the way he threw his body into a punch with the correct form and with both hands.

2. Frazier's left hook was incredible and he wasn't that big of a heavyweight.

3. Jackson, right in there with the best.

mickey malone
11-27-2009, 05:04 AM
P4P

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Wilfredo Gomez
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Archie Moore
5. Julian Jackson
6. Naseem Hamed
7. Stanley Ketchell
8. Carlos Zarate
9. Thomas Hearns
10. Khaosai Galaxy

Ziggy Stardust
11-27-2009, 11:52 AM
Lots of posts and haven't read them all, but anyone mention Archie Moore?

I think because the thread is "hardest" punchers rather than "greatest" punchers. I'm not really convinced Moore had one shot power although he certainly had good power. If the guestion was "greatest" punchers than yeah, Moore HAS to make any short list. And really "greatest" punchers is a more prestigous list in my book since "hardest" is just one factor in what makes a great puncher while "greatest" means the total package.

Poet

GJC
11-27-2009, 03:28 PM
I think because the thread is "hardest" punchers rather than "greatest" punchers. I'm not really convinced Moore had one shot power although he certainly had good power. If the guestion was "greatest" punchers than yeah, Moore HAS to make any short list. And really "greatest" punchers is a more prestigous list in my book since "hardest" is just one factor in what makes a great puncher while "greatest" means the total package.

Poet
Yeah maybe not concussive one punch power like Jackson or Shavers but he could dig Archie.

Dynamite Kid
11-27-2009, 03:33 PM
I always think Edwin Rosario gets overlooked in these debates. I think he was a brutal puncher.

rockymarciano1
11-28-2009, 05:15 AM
not many people mention max baer.
he did kill frankie cambell and ko the 6 foot 8 280 pound primo carnera.

Mikhnienko
11-28-2009, 06:16 AM
P4P

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Wilfredo Gomez
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Archie Moore
5. Julian Jackson
6. Naseem Hamed
7. Stanley Ketchell
8. Carlos Zarate
9. Thomas Hearns
10. Khaosai Galaxy


How can you have Ketchel at 7 and Fitz not even on your list when they both proved that their power translated all the way up to heavy

Hearns and Hamed, please

boxing_great
11-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Hamed is really a good puncher but their is no way to prove that he can hit harder than Pac, case in point, they have one common opponent (MAB), Hamed never could put MAB down, but against Pac MAB kiss canvas thrice, so who's the harder puncher....


let me explain why what your saying is not necessarily true.
Pac might have put MAB down because he is the more skilled fighter,and was able to penetrate MAB defence , whereas Hamed would have had trouble.
Just because you have power,doesn't mean you can always land your shots.

John Hue
11-28-2009, 07:11 AM
let me explain why what your saying is not necessarily true.
Pac might have put MAB down because he is the more skilled fighter,and was able to penetrate MAB defence , whereas Hamed would have had trouble.
Just because you have power,doesn't mean you can always land your shots.
I agree with you. Hamed P4P was a massive freakish hitter. In the Barrera fight his boxing skills were a joke and he never landed clean.

boxing_great
11-28-2009, 07:17 AM
And what a masterful job he did against former cruiserweight Evander Holyfield :haha:

what u mean? evander had a steel chin!

Gojira
11-28-2009, 03:30 PM
1. foreman
2. tua
3. jackson
4. hearns
5. hamed

mickey malone
11-30-2009, 05:06 PM
How can you have Ketchel at 7 and Fitz not even on your list when they both proved that their power translated all the way up to heavy

Hearns and Hamed, please
See where you're coming from with Fitz, but i'm going by fighters i've been able to study a lot of footage on, and as Bob did most of his fighting in the late 1800's, he isn't on there.. Back then, the difference between MW & HW was only about 15 lbs, so I wouldn't say weight carrying would be a big deciding factor..
From what i've seen, Ketchel had the more concussive one shot KO..

Hearns and Hamed between them have produced some of the best one punch KO's i've ever seen..

TheGreatA
11-30-2009, 05:10 PM
For a less accomplished fighter, Bob Satterfield.

Isai
05-10-2010, 12:13 PM
with no doubt in my mind do i think that shane mosley JCC miguel c and roberto duran hit harder than manny and they didnt even make the list (jcc had a 41 35kos example)

Scotchy
05-10-2010, 01:05 PM
I saw a video of young Foreman putting a dent in a Huge Heavy bag and the guy holding it had bruises all on his side.

The Iron Man
05-10-2010, 08:25 PM
Just a few names i thought i would mention, so many hard punches it would take too much time to make a list!

Julian Jackson, Marciano, Hearns, Bob Foster, Tyson, Shavers, Foreman, Louis, Wilfredo Gomez, Carlos Zarate, Pipino Cuevas.. there are many that i have missed but you get the jist lol

them_apples
05-10-2010, 09:12 PM
I think Jackson and Foreman are probably the hardest punchers of all-time.

yep. IMO too.

Hearns and McClellan get a nod too

Pacquiao at 126 definitely get's a mention to. Would have been nice to see more of him at 140 as well. Also Danny Lopez