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*2TOUGH*
06-20-2007, 01:23 PM
Seen a specialist consultant at the hospital and he says its time to get another sport. My Joints are very lax and my left shoulder dislocates and goes back into position when throwing a left hook. This can be very dangerous for the long term.

I was told not to do any press ups or exercise that made use of my upper body until physio therapy starts.

I can throw a really good jab and then right hand perfectly but the left hook sticks and hurts allot when it dislocates. I could switch hit, my right hook is less sticky and is powerful.

suggestions? advice?

what about joint supplements? do they work?

shawn_
06-20-2007, 02:13 PM
Read the forums over at rossboxing.com

jamesbrown
06-20-2007, 02:21 PM
listen to your doctor/ or get another opinion

*2TOUGH*
06-20-2007, 02:30 PM
Read the forums over at rossboxing.com

pm me a link if you can cheers

Feint
06-20-2007, 03:20 PM
listen to your doctor/ or get another opinion

I agree.

It is always good practice to get another opinion. It does not mean the first doctor does not know what they are talking about, it only means that medical opinions naturally vary.

But ultimately, you have to listen to what your body is telling you. Pain is your body's way of telling you something is wrong and you need to stop doing what it is that's causing it. If you have to start vastly altering the way you box, or try to fight through the pain, you could be setting yourself up for a serious life-long injury.

If you do have to quit there are a lot of ways to stay involved in this great sport and also low impact ways to keep in shape. I wish you the best.

danny stash
06-20-2007, 05:06 PM
Get a second opinion, see a sports therapist, chiropractor, holistic medicine doc. If this is what you want to do (box) than you cannot be defeated!

mickeyb
06-20-2007, 05:08 PM
Get a second opinion, see a sports therapist, chiropractor, holistic medicine doc. If this is what you want to do (box) than you cannot be defeated!

Even if it kills you trying?!?!

If the doctor says call it a day, then its time to hang up your gloves. Like the other posters have said... you can still be a part of the scene and a part of the club- start coaching or take a course in refereeing e.t.c.

Don't do anything you're gunna regret, ignoring your doc might enter you into a world of pain later down the line.

SpeedKillz
06-20-2007, 05:14 PM
Seen a specialist consultant at the hospital and he says its time to get another sport. My Joints are very lax and my left shoulder dislocates and goes back into position when throwing a left hook. This can be very dangerous for the long term.

I was told not to do any press ups or exercise that made use of my upper body until physio therapy starts.

I can throw a really good jab and then right hand perfectly but the left hook sticks and hurts allot when it dislocates. I could switch hit, my right hook is less sticky and is powerful.

suggestions? advice?

what about joint supplements? do they work?


dear god man that would be like my worst nightmare. i hope your doc is wrong... good luck

danny stash
06-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Even if it kills you trying?!?!

If the doctor says call it a day, then its time to hang up your gloves. Like the other posters have said... you can still be a part of the scene and a part of the club- start coaching or take a course in refereeing e.t.c.

Don't do anything you're gunna regret, ignoring your doc might enter you into a world of pain later down the line.
i was just saying get a second and third opinion. I dont want to see the guiy destroy himself but docs can be wrong especially the pill pushing quacks of our day and age.

*2TOUGH*
06-20-2007, 05:40 PM
The worst thing is.. that my problem is natural. meaning i had this problem "Lax Joints" from birth.. and my lil bro has the same movement in his shoulder.

this sucks.. ima try and build muscle to make the shoulder strong.. and then ill see if i go back boxing.. maybe ill never throw the left hook again.

platinummatt!
06-20-2007, 06:06 PM
Be careful with it man. As said get a second opinion, and see other people. When getting a second opinion probably best not to tell them youve seen a doctor already because they tent to agree with each other apparently

*2TOUGH*
06-20-2007, 06:15 PM
Be careful with it man. As said get a second opinion, and see other people. When getting a second opinion probably best not to tell them youve seen a doctor already because they tent to agree with each other apparently

i cant really see another consultant.. maybe its for the better? but boxing is what gets me into shape.. maybe marathon running can be my next hobby?

potatoes
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
Seen a specialist consultant at the hospital and he says its time to get another sport. My Joints are very lax and my left shoulder dislocates and goes back into position when throwing a left hook. This can be very dangerous for the long term.

I was told not to do any press ups or exercise that made use of my upper body until physio therapy starts.

I can throw a really good jab and then right hand perfectly but the left hook sticks and hurts allot when it dislocates. I could switch hit, my right hook is less sticky and is powerful.

suggestions? advice?

what about joint supplements? do they work?




In order to be an athlete you have to have the right sort of body. Athletes are born they are not made. If you have the right genes your body will tend to build up under stress, if you don't, it will tend to break down. That is just the way it is.

Now in your case I would say that you should consult a physician who specializes in sports medicine and has had lots of experience. It might take awhile to track one down, and sadly his advice won't come cheap. Sports medicine is a specialty and your average doctor doesn't know a lot about it, whether they admit it or not.

*2TOUGH*
06-20-2007, 07:52 PM
In order to be an athlete you have to have the right sort of body. Athletes are born they are not made. If you have the right genes your body will tend to build up under stress, if you don't, it will tend to break down. That is just the way it is.

Now in your case I would say that you should consult a physician who specializes in sports medicine and has had lots of experience. It might take awhile to track one down, and sadly his advice won't come cheap. Sports medicine is a specialty and your average doctor doesn't know a lot about it, whether they admit it or not.

thanks for posting, i was built almost like joe calzaghe. my body was fine. i might invest in a shoulder brace.. and build muscle and wear a brace for a few months.. while getting back into tip top shape from running, situps.. squats.. etc..

limited i know.. but i wanna recover..

boxing4ever
06-20-2007, 11:56 PM
sad **** to hear keep us updated man

*2TOUGH*
06-22-2007, 01:04 PM
update : been reading info on this site.. its interesting and about my problem...

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/orthopedicsurgery/shoulderinstability.html

FIGHTING_FLIP
06-23-2007, 01:30 AM
ay dawg im in the same spot as you..i cant box for a while because my right shoulder was hurtin so i went to see my doctor n told me if i keep boxin my rotator cuff is gonna tear which is worst then a dislocated shoulder..dont really wana get in another sport all im gonna do is just run and work on my lower body

SpeedKillz
06-23-2007, 11:25 AM
ay dawg im in the same spot as you..i cant box for a while because my right shoulder was hurtin so i went to see my doctor n told me if i keep boxin my rotator cuff is gonna tear which is worst then a dislocated shoulder..dont really wana get in another sport all im gonna do is just run and work on my lower body

i dislocated my shoulder once during a fight and the doc told me that if i fight one more time i'm gonna permanently damage it, and i had 8 fights since then and it felt better than it did previously, so docs aint ALWAYS right.

guzi815
06-23-2007, 01:18 PM
well dude, you didn't say how old you are, (that's a factor) but "Danny Stash" said it best...."Get a Second opinion, and see a chiropractor". I had to stop cause i got a huge gash over my right eye, last one was 4 stitches. I was 34, now 40.

Miguel Cotto also had a dislocated shoulder from a car accident...but of course, he had money to "take care of things". You said you "switch hit and left hook is less sticky and POWERFUL". If that works for you, focus your right shoulder more on 'shoulder rolls' (just a suggestion) for defense to your arsenal.

but wait till your physo therapy starts...you should know within the first 21 days...after that, the answer is clear.

itliangladiator
06-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Hey Dave Brown. You have me worried now man. I have the same exact problem while throwing the left hook. Like you said, the jab and everything else is fine...but it feels like my shoulder is dislocating while throwing the hook. Only difference is mine doesn't really hurt. I don't think I can give up this sport for it though. Once boxing gets in your blood, it will always be there. I guess I am going to ask my doctor.

*2TOUGH*
06-26-2007, 06:56 PM
update: I have appointment with the Physio on July 2nd, ill try and see if i can explain the sorts of exercises he gets me to do.

j
06-27-2007, 12:25 AM
as danny stash had said, get a second, and a third, and a fourth opinion.

this is how it works - not all doctors know an equal amount. some doctors know more than others. some doctors(ones who suck) will only go by what the book says and are not intuitive enough.

find a few different doctors who specialize in the sports field. and make sure that you don't keep going until you find one that wants to tell you what you want to hear. make sure that you trust the doc and he is competent in doing what he does. i have seen many doctors who treat what they do as a simple job - without really giving a **** about what they could do for you. and also do your own research.

In order to be an athlete you have to have the right sort of body. Athletes are born they are not made. If you have the right genes your body will tend to build up under stress, if you don't, it will tend to break down. That is just the way it is.


bull****. i bet your are not even an athlete. you sure as hell do not sound like one. if you are, you are extremely uneducated and for sure would noit be a top level athlete. and i can say this because i am and have been an athlete and am a trained fighter.

FIGHTING_FLIP
06-29-2007, 03:50 PM
i dislocated my shoulder once during a fight and the doc told me that if i fight one more time i'm gonna permanently damage it, and i had 8 fights since then and it felt better than it did previously, so docs aint ALWAYS right.

yeah but thats a big risk..what would you rather take, about 3 months of resting from boxing and be back in it once its fully healed..or be out of boxing for good?

*2TOUGH*
07-04-2007, 03:46 PM
update : seen the Physio today, and she said my external rotator cuffs were very weak. she said that certain muscles in my shoulders were over working resulting in the instability in the shoulder.

she pressed some pressure point near my pecks/arm pit and strapped my up for a few days. she said my posture was bad(because of boxing stance). she suggested that i could have acupuncture in the muscle to release it but its painful.

she gave me this resistance band to do my simple exercises. not exactly like the picture but if you hold the band with the elbows tucked by your side, then do the movement. [see below]

http://www.umaine.edu/wellness/workoutkits_files/image030.jpg

*2TOUGH*
07-10-2007, 07:20 PM
http://www.bodyresults.com/E2RotatorCuff.asp

Evil_Meat
07-10-2007, 07:31 PM
I wonder if a doctor would know if taking a drug that increases collagen synthesis would help you out, just a thought. some steroids tighten tendons and increase collagen synthesis and doctors do prescribe steroids for serious shoulder problems.

*2TOUGH*
07-10-2007, 07:34 PM
I wonder if a doctor would know if taking a drug that increases collagen synthesis would help you out, just a thought

what does that mean? aint they from Amino Acids?? :puppy_dog

ps: jeff lacy has a similar problem i believe.

Evil_Meat
07-10-2007, 07:37 PM
collagen is what makes up ur connective tissues, tendons, etc

*2TOUGH*
07-10-2007, 07:41 PM
collagen is what makes up ur connective tissues, tendons, etc

oh rite, ill have to ask the physio, she seems to know her **** more than the DR. she said after lots of exercise building muscle the shoulder should stabilize.

Evil_Meat
07-10-2007, 08:07 PM
oh rite, ill have to ask the physio, she seems to know her **** more than the DR. she said after lots of exercise building muscle the shoulder should stabilize.

she'll most likely be against drugs that speed up collagen synthesis cause she's a physio and she'll probably want u to take the long road to recovery. personally the only reason i'd take steroids would be for a serious injury that would prevent me from boxing for a long time

Misterp4p
07-10-2007, 08:14 PM
Bro I Got The Same Problem Laxity Actually Mutlidirectional Instability, I Just Had Shoulder Arthroscopic Surgery On My Right Shoulder For Stabilization. My Right Shoulder Is The One That Pops Out I Am Hoping Once I Get Thru Rehab It Will B All Good So Im Trying To Make My Left Shoulder Stronger Too Even If Theres Laxity. Have U Had Surgery? Theres Got To Be A Way To Go From This Never Look The Other Way Anythings Possible

David06
07-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Dave, I did something similar to my shoulder(I actually have no idea how I injured it, it happened during a wrestling match). Since this was near the beginning of the season, I just sucked it up and hoped that it would feel better after the season, when I had time to rest and let it heal. It didn't really feel better so I went to see the trainer at my school. She gave me one of those resistance bands and showed me several exercises to do(the one you described is one I did)

I did the exercises she showed me, and within a month I had no pain and I had no problem boxing.

Good luck!