I'm going to create a league pretty soon, even though the season is a long way away.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS:

I need to get a feel for who is going to be participating in this league. I'd like to get a lot of the same guys who were in it last year, as well as some new guys who will check their teams on the regular.

Sonny
PBDS
Fix
Torino
Raesaad
Gomez
Blood
Jefe
2nd_II_None
Lefty
FairPole
Gringo

^ This would be a pretty solid all around league...enough experience...hopefully everybody would check their team. Post in this thread if you'd like to join the league otherwise.

I'm going to create a league pretty soon, even though the season is a long way away.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS:

I need to get a feel for who is going to be participating in this league. I'd like to get a lot of the same guys who were in it last year, as well as some new guys who will check their teams on the regular.

Sonny
PBDS
Fix
Torino
Raesaad
Gomez
Blood
Jefe
2nd_II_None
Lefty
FairPole
Gringo

^ This would be a pretty solid all around league...enough experience...hopefully everybody would check their team. Post in this thread if you'd like to join the league otherwise.

Yeah I'm down. I really want to redeem my nightmarish season last year in aonther league. I finished 8th and I made every move to try to get better but I still sucked. New year I want that number one pick though. It would be great to get LT.

Give me a candle and I will show you the way. I had a decent year last year in the football league.

hopefully i can end the streak of last place finishes.... i finished last, last season....dead last in baseball right now.... this is embarassing.

So far it looks like we have:

gringo
blood
lefty
fix
saad

7 slots open...

gringo
blood
lefty
fix
saad
jefe

6 slots left....

I can't ****ing wait.:cool:

pretty nice list.

whats this our 3rd or 4th year playing together???

Updated list:

Gringo
Sonny (aka DC)
Fix
Lefty
Saadmon
Blood
Jefe
2nd
PBDS

3 slots open...

pretty nice list.

whats this our 3rd or 4th year playing together???

3rd that ive been in....


2 years ive done baseball with bs and going to be 3 football. ive also done 3 or 4 ncaa tourny brackets..... and we did pick'em through the site.

This my 2nd season with you guys and 2nd season ever but I love this shit.I learned alot last season and did well the first half of the season.....kind of shit the bed down the stretch but i plan to be a force this season.

This my 2nd season with you guys and 2nd season ever but I love this shit.I learned alot last season and did well the first half of the season.....kind of shit the bed down the stretch but i plan to be a force this season.

injuries ruined me.....

count me in.

We will definitely also do the Pick Em again.

This time we will use Yahoo sports though and it will make life easier on everyone.

Sonny's early NFL predictions:

AFC East - New England
AFC West - San Diego
AFC North - Cincy
AFC South - Indy
AFC Wild cards - Baltimore, Jacksonville

NFC East - Philly
NFC West - Seattle
NFC North - Chicago
NFC South - New Orleans
NFC Wild cards - Carolina, Dallas

count me in.

We will definitely also do the Pick Em again.

This time we will use Yahoo sports though and it will make life easier on everyone.

Sonny's early NFL predictions:

AFC East - New England
AFC West - San Diego
AFC North - Cincy
AFC South - Indy
AFC Wild cards - Baltimore, Jacksonville

NFC East - Philly
NFC West - Seattle
NFC North - Chicago
NFC South - New Orleans
NFC Wild cards - Carolina, Dallas

Norv Turner will ruin that team.

I will join if there are any openings left, usually I finish near the top in all the leagues I've been in since 03.

Norv Turner will ruin that team.

if he ****s with the defense, your right he will.


but if he lets the defensive coordinator do his job and norv worries about his offense, the bolts should contend for a superbowl

Gringo
Sonny (aka DC)
Fix
Lefty
Saadmon
Blood
Jefe
2nd
PBDS
Rudy

Updated list. Rudypoo you are in. 2 more slots available.

Gringo
Sonny (aka DC)
Fix
Lefty
Saadmon
Blood
Jefe
2nd
PBDS
Rudy

Updated list. Rudypoo you are in. 2 more slots available.

You might want to leave a spot open for 7001.

You might want to leave a spot open for 7001.

yeah that's good with me, is he going to stay up with his team?

yeah that's good with me, is he going to stay up with his team?

he did last year....

i wouldnt let ffcracker into another league though, his spot in baseball couldve went to someone who would check on his/her team.

i wouldnt let ffcracker into another league though, his spot in baseball couldve went to someone who would check on his/her team.

yeah...big waste of space. too bad...he has a pretty good core of players.

yeah...big waste of space. too bad...he has a pretty good core of players.

yeah, i noticed two weeks ago.

yeah, i noticed two weeks ago.

what team is he??

what team is he??

groundhogs

he had texeira, morneau (who he shouldn't have traded for giambi), soriano, uggla, furcal, abreu, hill, sabathia, cordero....

with some management, some free agents pickups....he could have had one of the 6 best teams in my opinion. i think he'd be in the 3rd or 4th slot if he managed his team.

yeah that's good with me, is he going to stay up with his team?

7001 takes fantasy football just as serious as we do, he needs to be let into the league.:cool:

Just to let you know about Groundhogs, he found a piece of pussy and he's all wrapped up in that whore, you know how that shit goes.:dunce:

he had texeira, morneau (who he shouldn't have traded for giambi), soriano, uggla, furcal, abreu, hill, sabathia, cordero....

with some management, some free agents pickups....he could have had one of the 6 best teams in my opinion. i think he'd be in the 3rd or 4th slot if he managed his team.

Cracker wanted Giambi bro, he sent me a PM asking me what i wanted for him and I said give me Justin Morneau thinking he was going to tell me to **** off.

Low and behold he said the deal was a go thinking Justin was a flash in the pan and he is a big Giambi fan so we made the deal. That's how the deal went down, no lie.

Cracker wanted Giambi bro, he sent me a PM asking me what i wanted for him and I said give me Justin Morneau thinking he was going to tell me to **** off.

Low and behold he said the deal was a go thinking Justin was a flash in the pan and he is a big Giambi fan so we made the deal. That's how the deal went down, no lie.

:lol1: :lol1: defensive.........

****in Giambi. I hope his balls shrivel up and fall off...

i want in guys... a couple of 3rd place finishes last year with Yahoo Public Leagues... I was like 1st and 2nd and then got burned in the playoffs... lol...

any spots left ringo?

Gringo
Sonny (aka DC)
Fix
Lefty
Saadmon
Blood
Jefe
2nd
PBDS
Rudy
7001
Keng

Here is the final roster of managers. I will begin setting up the league as I get more time here on the weekend.

i want in guys... a couple of 3rd place finishes last year with Yahoo Public Leagues... I was like 1st and 2nd and then got burned in the playoffs... lol...

any spots left ringo?

I added you....you nabbed the last slot bud.

anybody have any comments as to things that they DO NOT want to see in the scoring, structure, or otherwise?

i will take all requests/suggestions into account, but i may overrule some things. i have a particular way that i want to set up the league, so i want to weigh my preferences against some of yours.

Not many people do this, but please don't count return yards, cause then guys like Wes Welker lead the league in scoring. It happened to me last year.

Not many people do this, but please don't count return yards, cause then guys like Wes Welker lead the league in scoring. It happened to me last year.

You don't have to worry about that.

Thank the lord!

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS - FORMAT AND SCORING

I have pretty much always played fantasy football this way:

QB
WR
WR
WR
RB
RB
TE
WR/RB
K
BN
BN
BN

The scoring for offense would look something like this:

Completions - .5pt
Passing Yards - 40 yards = 1pt
Rush Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Rec Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Receptions - 1 pt
Interceptions - (-)3pt
Fumble Lost - (-)2pts
ALL TDs = 6pts (pass, rush, rec, return)

39 yd FG and under - 3pts
40-49 yd FG - 4 pts
50+ - 5pts
XP - 1pt
Missed FG - (-)1pt

Individual defense

D
D
DE
DE
DB
DB
BN
BN

Individual defense actually separates great managers from average ones in my opinion. You have to understand both sides of the ball in that case. With team defenses, you just draft either Baltimore or Chicago and there's a monopoly on great defenses. Individual is also good because it helps balance out points (to a small degree), it gives you more people to root for, and it makes for a more complex league. I'm assuming that everyone here is a veteran manager.

The scoring for individual defense would look like this:

Solo Tackle - 1pt
Sack - 2pts
Interception - 3pts
Forced Fumble - 2pts
Fumble Recovery - 3pts
Pass Deflection - 1pt
TD - 6pts

This format doesn't *generally* give your defense a ton of scoring power, but it does reward excellent defensive performances. There are many players who have standout performances on defense, it's just up to the manager to know who those players will be by checking out matchup strengths/weaknesses.

What does everyone think? Again, these are all possibly subject to change with good reasoning and respectful commentary.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS - FORMAT AND SCORING

I have pretty much always played fantasy football this way:

QB
WR
WR
WR
RB
RB
TE
WR/RB
K
BN
BN
BN

The scoring for offense would look something like this:

Completions - .5pt
Passing Yards - 40 yards = 1pt
Rush Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Rec Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Receptions - 1 pt
Interceptions - (-)3pt
Fumble Lost - (-)2pts
ALL TDs = 6pts (pass, rush, rec, return)

39 yd FG and under - 3pts
40-49 yd FG - 4 pts
50+ - 5pts
XP - 1pt
Missed FG - (-)1pt

Individual defense

D
D
DE
DE
DB
DB
BN
BN

Individual defense actually separates great managers from average ones in my opinion. You have to understand both sides of the ball in that case. With team defenses, you just draft either Baltimore or Chicago and there's a monopoly on great defenses. Individual is also good because it helps balance out points (to a small degree), it gives you more people to root for, and it makes for a more complex league. I'm assuming that everyone here is a veteran manager.

The scoring for individual defense would look like this:

Solo Tackle - 1pt
Sack - 2pts
Interception - 3pts
Forced Fumble - 2pts
Fumble Recovery - 3pts
Pass Deflection - 1pt
TD - 6pts

This format doesn't *generally* give your defense a ton of scoring power, but it does reward excellent defensive performances. There are many players who have standout performances on defense, it's just up to the manager to know who those players will be by checking out matchup strengths/weaknesses.

What does everyone think? Again, these are all possibly subject to change with good reasoning and respectful commentary.
i like............

Not really into the individual defender stuff. But hey I'm still in.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS - FORMAT AND SCORING

I have pretty much always played fantasy football this way:

QB
WR
WR
WR
RB
RB
TE
WR/RB
K
BN
BN
BN

The scoring for offense would look something like this:

Completions - .5pt
Passing Yards - 40 yards = 1pt
Rush Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Rec Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Receptions - 1 pt
Interceptions - (-)3pt
Fumble Lost - (-)2pts
ALL TDs = 6pts (pass, rush, rec, return)

39 yd FG and under - 3pts
40-49 yd FG - 4 pts
50+ - 5pts
XP - 1pt
Missed FG - (-)1pt

Individual defense

D
D
DE
DE
DB
DB
BN
BN

Individual defense actually separates great managers from average ones in my opinion. You have to understand both sides of the ball in that case. With team defenses, you just draft either Baltimore or Chicago and there's a monopoly on great defenses. Individual is also good because it helps balance out points (to a small degree), it gives you more people to root for, and it makes for a more complex league. I'm assuming that everyone here is a veteran manager.

The scoring for individual defense would look like this:

Solo Tackle - 1pt
Sack - 2pts
Interception - 3pts
Forced Fumble - 2pts
Fumble Recovery - 3pts
Pass Deflection - 1pt
TD - 6pts

This format doesn't *generally* give your defense a ton of scoring power, but it does reward excellent defensive performances. There are many players who have standout performances on defense, it's just up to the manager to know who those players will be by checking out matchup strengths/weaknesses.

What does everyone think? Again, these are all possibly subject to change with good reasoning and respectful commentary.

I like it gringo. The only slight change I might make is having interceptions be only -2 points. My reasoning is that a lost fumble should basically be equivalent to an interception, just like a fumble recovery and interception are equal. Also, while interceptions are usually the fault of the qb, there are instances where the receiver plays a role by running a bad route or just getting beaten by the db. I feel that with qb's only getting 1 point per 40 yards instead of per 25 yards taking 3 points per int away is really restricting their scoring potential.

The other option would be to make passing yardage 25 yards per point.

Hmmm, now that I think about it maybe lost fumbles should be -3 points. Nothing hurts a team more than an idiot rb who can't hold onto the ball. Let's face it, turnover ratio is the biggest indicator of who wins and who loses in the NFL. Maybe make int's and fumbles both -3 points and make passing yardage 1 point per 25 yards.

Something to think about anyway. I'd like to hear what everyone thinks.

And good call on the individual defenses.

Man I can't wait until football season!!!

I like it gringo. The only slight change I might make is having interceptions be only -2 points. My reasoning is that a lost fumble should basically be equivalent to an interception, just like a fumble recovery and interception are equal. Also, while interceptions are usually the fault of the qb, there are instances where the receiver plays a role by running a bad route or just getting beaten by the db. I feel that with qb's only getting 1 point per 40 yards instead of per 25 yards taking 3 points per int away is really restricting their scoring potential.

The other option would be to make passing yardage 25 yards per point.

Hmmm, now that I think about it maybe lost fumbles should be -3 points. Nothing hurts a team more than an idiot rb who can't hold onto the ball. Let's face it, turnover ratio is the biggest indicator of who wins and who loses in the NFL. Maybe make int's and fumbles both -3 points and make passing yardage 1 point per 25 yards.

Something to think about anyway. I'd like to hear what everyone thinks.

And good call on the individual defenses.

Man I can't wait until football season!!!

I like both suggestions.

My only suggestion would be to make INT's for defensive players worth like 4 points instead of 3, because they are harder to come by and will make DB's a little more important in fantasy FB.

OOOOO your making it hard on me,this is my second season and last year we did'nt play defense that way but sounds good,makes things much more interesting no doubt.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS - FORMAT AND SCORING

I have pretty much always played fantasy football this way:

QB
WR
WR
WR
RB
RB
TE
WR/RB
K
BN
BN
BN

The scoring for offense would look something like this:

Completions - .5pt
Passing Yards - 40 yards = 1pt
Rush Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Rec Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Receptions - 1 pt
Interceptions - (-)3pt
Fumble Lost - (-)2pts
ALL TDs = 6pts (pass, rush, rec, return)

39 yd FG and under - 3pts
40-49 yd FG - 4 pts
50+ - 5pts
XP - 1pt
Missed FG - (-)1pt

Individual defense

D
D
DE
DE
DB
DB
BN
BN

Individual defense actually separates great managers from average ones in my opinion. You have to understand both sides of the ball in that case. With team defenses, you just draft either Baltimore or Chicago and there's a monopoly on great defenses. Individual is also good because it helps balance out points (to a small degree), it gives you more people to root for, and it makes for a more complex league. I'm assuming that everyone here is a veteran manager.

The scoring for individual defense would look like this:

Solo Tackle - 1pt
Sack - 2pts
Interception - 3pts
Forced Fumble - 2pts
Fumble Recovery - 3pts
Pass Deflection - 1pt
TD - 6pts

This format doesn't *generally* give your defense a ton of scoring power, but it does reward excellent defensive performances. There are many players who have standout performances on defense, it's just up to the manager to know who those players will be by checking out matchup strengths/weaknesses.

What does everyone think? Again, these are all possibly subject to change with good reasoning and respectful commentary.

Should be 20 yards passing per point OG. 40 yards is just to many when your handing out 1 point for 10 yards rushing and receiving plus 1 point for a reception.

As far as defense is concerned, I'm really not into individual defense but I'm down for whatever.

Damn, I just saw this thread. It looks like there are not any openings left. But if someone one drops out I would like to join. I am addicted to fantasy sports and follow my teams every week.

Should be 20 yards passing per point OG. 40 yards is just to many when your handing out 1 point for 10 yards rushing and receiving plus 1 point for a reception.

As far as defense is concerned, I'm really not into individual defense but I'm down for whatever.

I have taken Sonny's advice and as it stands, it's 25 passing yards per point, -3 for fumbles lost and interceptions.

I have taken Sonny's advice and as it stands, it's 25 passing yards per point, -3 for fumbles lost and interceptions.

Whatever. 10 yards for receiving and 10 yards for rushing with 25 yards for passing sounds kind of gay to me. 20 yards per point for passing puts a little more on the QB position.

Whatever. 10 yards for receiving and 10 yards for rushing with 25 yards for passing sounds kind of gay to me. 20 yards per point for passing puts a little more on the QB position.

It's 5 ****ing yards who gives a shit........:lol1:

It's 5 ****ing yards who gives a shit........:lol1:

25 yards per point dude, come on.:rolleyes:

I have taken Sonny's advice and as it stands, it's 25 passing yards per point, -3 for fumbles lost and interceptions.

Just another perfect example on **** what badblood thinks.

Just another perfect example on **** what badblood thinks.

hey if some other people voice their opinion and want to change it to 20 yards per point, then i'm more than open to changing the rule. sonny had a good idea, and i am going with it. fix and saad seem to like it too.

i hope you aren't going to carry your shit attitude into this league too. it'd be good to have someone like you who knows what they are doing in the league, but you are entirely replaceable.

hey if some other people voice their opinion and want to change it to 20 yards per point, then i'm more than open to changing the rule. sonny had a good idea, and i am going with it. fix and saad seem to like it too.

i hope you aren't going to carry your shit attitude into this league too. it'd be good to have someone like you who knows what they are doing in the league, but you are entirely replaceable.

So replace me gringo. One guy says one thing and you swallow his dick. I've played in ALL these leagues for years now and it's a continues thing, **** what BB has to think, shit gets old after awhile. 25 yards per point is ****ing stupid.

So replace me gringo. One guy says one thing and you swallow his dick. I've played in ALL these leagues for years now and it's a continues thing, **** what BB has to think, shit gets old after awhile. 25 yards per point is ****ing stupid.

so if we went with YOUR rule, i'd be swallowing your dick, when no one else has voiced a concern over the rule being 25 yards per point.

the passing yardage points were set up THE EXACT SAME WAY last year and it didn't seem to be a problem...

so if we went with YOUR rule, i'd be swallowing your dick, when no one else has voiced a concern over the rule being 25 yards per point.

the passing yardage points were set up THE EXACT SAME WAY last year and it didn't seem to be a problem...

I said the exact same thing last year. 25 yards per point is ****ing stupid. Especially when you have 10 yards rushing per point and 10 yards receiving per point and an extra point for a reception. The QB position will become secondary with this stupid rule. Use your head and think before coming up with rules that will affect the entire draft, spread the points around and don't make it so lopsided.

I said the exact same thing last year. 25 yards per point is ****ing stupid. Especially when you have 10 yards rushing per point and 10 yards receiving per point and an extra point for a reception. The QB position will become secondary with this stupid rule. Use your head and think before coming up with rules that will affect the entire draft, spread the points around and don't make it so lopsided.

generally running backs dominate fantasy football anyway, so QB is a secondary position regardless. this is the way it has always been. this is why tomlinson, jackson, alexander, portis, johnson, james, etc etc are always the first guys off the board over the past few years.

i have completions to balance out the quarterbacks numbers, and i got rid of qb sacks being a negative stat. if a quarterback goes for 20 completions, 250 yards, 2 touchdowns and no interceptions (a good, but not great game), he's going to put up 32 points. conversely, a good game for a running back, 100 yards and a touchdown only goes for 16.

i think it's pretty even.

if i made it 20 yards per point, that very same quarterback would be putting up 34 points with that game....so the 2 point difference really isn't such a big deal in my estimation.

generally running backs dominate fantasy football anyway, so QB is a secondary position regardless. this is the way it has always been. this is why tomlinson, jackson, alexander, portis, johnson, james, etc etc are always the first guys off the board over the past few years.

i have completions to balance out the quarterbacks numbers, and i got rid of qb sacks being a negative stat. if a quarterback goes for 20 completions, 250 yards, 2 touchdowns and no interceptions (a good, but not great game), he's going to put up 32 points. conversely, a good game for a running back, 100 yards and a touchdown only goes for 16.

i think it's pretty even.

if i made it 20 yards per point, that very same quarterback would be putting up 34 points with that game....so the 2 point difference really isn't such a big deal in my estimation.

I had Peyton Manning last year in your league and he put up an average 16-18 points per week. RB's put up 30+.

I had Peyton Manning last year in your league and he put up an average 16-18 points per week. RB's put up 30+.

I didn't set the league up last year genius.

Peyton would actually do much better under my format, as he doesn't turn the ball over much and he is a very accurate passer.

I didn't set the league up last year genius.

Peyton would actually do much better under my format, as he doesn't turn the ball over much and he is a very accurate passer.

2 points for 50 yards, 4 points for 100 yards, 6 points for 200 yards. ****ing gay. All the while LT gets 10 points for 100 yards.

2 points for 50 yards, 4 points for 100 yards, 6 points for 200 yards. ****ing gay. All the while LT gets 10 points for 100 yards.

8 points for 200 yards genius.

a guy like peyton manning routinely threw for 20+ completions, 300+ yards, 2+ touchdowns.

a good day for manning would net him 40+ points.

LT happens to be the best player in football, so suck it.

8 points for 200 yards genius.

a guy like peyton manning routinely threw for 20+ completions, 300+ yards, 2+ touchdowns.

a good day for manning would net him 40+ points.

LT happens to be the best player in football, so suck it.

Wow, 8 whole points for a 200 yard passing day. How many points for a 200 yard rushing day?

Wow, 8 whole points for a 200 yard passing day. How many points for a 200 yard rushing day?

a 200 yard rushing day is huge and very rare....apples and oranges.

Wow, 8 whole points for a 200 yard passing day. How many points for a 200 yard rushing day?

Wow, how common are 200 yard rushing days? Are you high? There have only been like 60-70, 200 yard games since 1980!

If you don't pass for 200+ yards per as a legitimate starting quarterback then you are pretty much garbage.

oj simpson is the all time leader in 200 yard rushing games.....with 6.

Why, why can you not just put an effesence (sp?) on the QB position by setting 20 passing yards per point?

Why, why can you not just put an effesence (sp?) on the QB position by setting 20 passing yards per point?

I'll set up a vote on 25 yards or 20 yards per point for passing and that should settle it. Depending on what people want, I will HAPPILY change the rule.

I'll set up a vote on 25 yards or 20 yards per point for passing and that should settle it. Depending on what people want, I will HAPPILY change the rule.

That's all I asked for, not to be ignored for some guy who plays in these leagues when he feels like showing up for a year or taking a year off.

Wow, 8 whole points for a 200 yard passing day. How many points for a 200 yard rushing day?

200 passing days all all over......200 rushing days are rare.It's 5 ****ing points BB **** it.

When do you plan on making the league? Not trying to rush you just wondering. I'm jacked up for this year.

7001 and myself are out of this league.

That's all I asked for, not to be ignored for some guy who plays in these leagues when he feels like showing up for a year or taking a year off.

Why did you have to go there? I was in the original ffl with og, fix, pbds, explosivo, etc before you even joined boxing scene. I started the first college hoops tourney and the NFL pickem. I took one year off from the baseball league because I wanted to log a little less computer time. I have a lot going on these days and fantasy baseball is an every day commitment if you want to do it right.

I complete stayed out of your beef with og in the baseball thread, because it's none of my business. Why do you have to bring me up like my opinion isn't worth shit. If I'm not mistaken you recently took some time off from bs yourself.

If you want to argue the merits of 20 yards per point vs. 25 per point go ahead but don't denigrate me in the process. I just made a suggestion to try and make the league better. I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. I have been playing fantasy football since 1997. I think I have a decent grasp of what makes a good league, and forgive me for patting myself on the back but I think I have some of the best sports knowledge on this site.

Why did you have to go there? I was in the original ffl with og, fix, pbds, explosivo, etc before you even joined boxing scene. I started the first college hoops tourney and the NFL pickem. I took one year off from the baseball league because I wanted to log a little less computer time. I have a lot going on these days and fantasy baseball is an every day commitment if you want to do it right.

I complete stayed out of your beef with og in the baseball thread, because it's none of my business. Why do you have to bring me up like my opinion isn't worth shit. If I'm not mistaken you recently took some time off from bs yourself.

If you want to argue the merits of 20 yards per point vs. 25 per point go ahead but don't denigrate me in the process. I just made a suggestion. I have been playing fantasy football since 1998. I think I have a decent grasp of what makes a good league, and forgive me for patting myself on the back but I think I have some of the best sports knowledge on this site.

Don't worry, badblood is a baby so he's not in the league anymore. He and 7001 apparently pulled out so we now have 2 slots open. I guess 5 yards is just TOO much for badblood to bear....

I don't know who he is but that guy Feint (a few pages back) said he wanted to join if an opening became available.

I don't know who he is but that guy Feint (a few pages back) said he wanted to join if an opening became available.

Yeah that's already a slot filled, plus I forgot about Gomez, I'm sure he would want to return this year. I'll PM them.

A league built around the top 3 or 4 RB's in the league isn't fair. Spread the points around and make every position important is my advice.

Sonny, no offense bro I wasn't trying to flame you or anything but I thought the original idea of 40 points per point was laughable and 25 points per point is still just not fair to the QB position.

Doesn't matter anymore though, it's not the 5 yards that pulled me and 7001 from the league, it was that OG is just purely classless when it comes to fantasy sports.

7001 and I have come to an agreement. We will play if Sonny hosts the league.

7001 and I have come to an agreement. We will play if Sonny hosts the league.

Jason......my man,I have hung out with you a couple times in real life and you are a very cool dude however you are really acting like a baby when it comes to this fantasy shit.You know god damn well because I know you are not a dumb man that your trade in baseball was bullshit and you have to know since you played last year in this same football league that 25 a point is fine......did'nt you have Manning last year?No matter......this shit is just silly it's FANTASY ****ING SPORTS......and just so you don't think I am picking on you,If I were Gringo no ****ing way I would have argued and threatened you the way he did.....I would have just vetoed it and carried on.Cut the shit guys we all just bullshit around in here and play fantasy sports it is not that serious to be arguing about.

Now carry on peacefully my children.:luvbed:

Jason......my man,I have hung out with you a couple times in real life and you are a very cool dude however you are really acting like a baby when it comes to this fantasy shit.You know god damn well because I know you are not a dumb man that your trade in baseball was bullshit and you have to know since you played last year in this same football league that 25 a point is fine......did'nt you have Manning last year?No matter......this shit is just silly it's FANTASY ****ING SPORTS......and just so you don't think I am picking on you,If I were Gringo no ****ing way I would have argued and threatened you the way he did.....I would have just vetoed it and carried on.Cut the shit guys we all just bullshit around in here and play fantasy sports it is not that serious to be arguing about.

Now carry on peacefully my children.:luvbed:

Aarron.....my man, I also have hung out with you and you have to understand that I am dealing with a classless bum. When I pour days, weeks, and months into a league and on top of spending cash for a stat tracker to compete in the league and this piece of garbage of a commish locks my team for ANY reason whatsoever is purely classless.

Fantasy leagues was meant for fun but like I said, when a classless bum of a commish locks ANY team including mine for his own personal agendas is ****ing bullshit.

Aarron...my friend, I will fix this with ease, I will simply just refuse to participate in any of this guys leagues. If someone else wants to host the league I will join and I will play and we will have fun. But as long as this classless bum runs leagues I'm out.

I have hosted the NASCAR league for 2 years straight, have you ever seen this kind of bullshit going on in that league? I have people that used up their drivers and haven't picked new ones and they are sitting at the bottom, did I lock their teams? No I did not, why? because they might show up and start playing again like you did last year and squeak out a top 5 finish.

This whole thing is about class, the commish of our baseball league is a bum, the kind of bum that shows up to dog tracks with holes in their shoes dragging their kids along listening to them beg for daddy not to lose so they can eat that night.

Aarron.....my man, I also have hung out with you and you have to understand that I am dealing with a classless bum. When I pour days, weeks, and months into a league and on top of spending cash for a stat tracker to compete in the league and this piece of garbage of a commish locks my team for ANY reason whatsoever is purely classless.

Fantasy leagues was meant for fun but like I said, when a classless bum of a commish locks ANY team including mine for his own personal agendas is ****ing bullshit.

Aarron...my friend, I will fix this with ease, I will simply just refuse to participate in any of this guys leagues. If someone else wants to host the league I will join and I will play and we will have fun. But as long as this classless bum runs leagues I'm out.

I have hosted the NASCAR league for 2 years straight, have you ever seen this kind of bullshit going on in that league? I have people that used up their drivers and haven't picked new ones and they are sitting at the bottom, did I lock their teams? No I did not, why? because they might show up and start playing again like you did last year and squeak out a top 5 finish.

This whole thing is about class, the commish of our baseball league is a bum, the kind of bum that shows up to dog tracks with holes in their shoes dragging their kids along listening to them beg for daddy not to lose so they can eat that night.
1st bold....it's ****ing 9.99 for 6 months of stat tracking....who gives a ****.

2nd bold.....you threatened to drop all of your players because he stopped you from executing a clearly unfair trade.

3rd bold......that league is nothing like BB or FB......you don't have all the settings and trades going on.....it's purely guessing which driveers will do good that week.


Gringo runs a good league as far as I can tell from playing football and baseball with him the last year......Yeah he takes it too seriously but nonetheless you think everyone and everything is against you when it comes to this it seems.

Anyway I'm done.....no pun or hard feelings to anyone,just know I am coming back to make the play-offs assholes and I will be a monster in football this year.:cool:

badblood knows what he did, he didnt give gringo any options... it was a clear case of roster dumping, plain and simple. everybody knows that trade wasnt fair, everybody knows ffcracker and blood have a relationship outside of boxingscene. its not like this was the first time this happened. i think it was a classless, egotistical move on the part of badblood.... however, we can all move on, groundhogs banning is a problem solved and iam sure this trade will be vetoed.



iam not going to harbor any ill will towards badblood at all, i dont hold grudges...whatever whatever.

Final roster/manager list for Fantasy Football 2007

Gringo
Sonny (aka Dual Champs)
Air Keng
The Fix
Lefhooktodabody
Saadmon
Sho-Nuff
El Jefe
2nd_II_None
PBDS
Rudypoop
Feint

That's some solid opposition there, I think we'll have a great year.

I'll start setting up the league in the next couple of days, I'll PM everybody the details!

Final roster/manager list for Fantasy Football 2007

Gringo
Sonny (aka Dual Champs)
Air Keng (wont play all year)
The Fix
Lefhooktodabody
Saadmon
Sho-Nuff (wont paly all year)
El Jefe
2nd_II_None (wont play all year and he's miss the draft and drop half his team)
PBDS (wont play all year)
Rudypoop (wont play all year)
Feint ( who?)

That's some solid opposition there, I think we'll have a great year.

I'll start setting up the league in the next couple of days, I'll PM everybody the details!

Looks like a great league.:lol1:

That's what you get for being a classless bum, your league gets what it deserves.

lol it looks like somone is bitter.

Dude chill out, your life does not depend on fantasy sports.

Looks like a great league.:lol1:

That's what you get for being a classless bum, your league gets what it deserves.

pbds, sho-nuff and 2nd II none will both play all year..... all huge football fans.


i havent had the oppurtunity to play with the other posters you called out, but they cant be any worse than ffcracker..

pbds, sho-nuff and 2nd II none will both play all year..... all huge football fans.


i havent had the oppurtunity to play with the other posters you called out, but they cant be any worse than ffcracker..

Short term memory loss. Shoff nuff and PBDS did not play their teams last year, and 2ndIInone missed the draft and dumped half his team and picked up a bunch of nobodys in the FA's and quit on his team.

I told you, I will play the football league long as someone else hosts it. I will never again play in a league where gringo is the commish. Does the term classless bum come to mind? Lock my ****ing team and carry on the way he did.

Short term memory loss. Shoff nuff and PBDS did not play their teams last year, and 2ndIInone missed the draft and dumped half his team and picked up a bunch of nobodys in the FA's and quit on his team.

I told you, I will play the football league long as someone else hosts it. I will never again play in a league where gringo is the commish. Does the term classless bum come to mind? Lock my ****ing team and carry on the way he did.

Yes he did..........I was at his house one sunday and he was checking it every 15 minutes.

Yes he did..........I was at his house one sunday and he was checking it every 15 minutes.

I'm telling you, when I played PBDS he had open spots last year. He finished towards the bottom next to 2ndIInone and sho nuff because the bailed on his team.

I have a sharp memory. :cool:

I added you....you nabbed the last slot bud.
good... the first time i'll be up against BS people...

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS - FORMAT AND SCORING

I have pretty much always played fantasy football this way:

QB
WR
WR
WR
RB
RB
TE
WR/RB
K
BN
BN
BN

The scoring for offense would look something like this:

Completions - .5pt
Passing Yards - 40 yards = 1pt
Rush Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Rec Yards - 10 yards = 1 pt
Receptions - 1 pt
Interceptions - (-)3pt
Fumble Lost - (-)2pts
ALL TDs = 6pts (pass, rush, rec, return)

39 yd FG and under - 3pts
40-49 yd FG - 4 pts
50+ - 5pts
XP - 1pt
Missed FG - (-)1pt

Individual defense

D
D
DE
DE
DB
DB
BN
BN

Individual defense actually separates great managers from average ones in my opinion. You have to understand both sides of the ball in that case. With team defenses, you just draft either Baltimore or Chicago and there's a monopoly on great defenses. Individual is also good because it helps balance out points (to a small degree), it gives you more people to root for, and it makes for a more complex league. I'm assuming that everyone here is a veteran manager.

The scoring for individual defense would look like this:

Solo Tackle - 1pt
Sack - 2pts
Interception - 3pts
Forced Fumble - 2pts
Fumble Recovery - 3pts
Pass Deflection - 1pt
TD - 6pts

This format doesn't *generally* give your defense a ton of scoring power, but it does reward excellent defensive performances. There are many players who have standout performances on defense, it's just up to the manager to know who those players will be by checking out matchup strengths/weaknesses.

What does everyone think? Again, these are all possibly subject to change with good reasoning and respectful commentary.
up the pts/yard for receptions... giving the same pts for rush yards hurt the value of the RB... im used to public leagues so i have that preference...

and about defenses, this will be a challenging year for me... never played individual defenses before... i'll try my best to research, hehe...

I'm telling you, when I played PBDS he had open spots last year. He finished towards the bottom next to 2ndIInone and sho nuff because the bailed on his team.

I have a sharp memory. :cool:

That must have just been the week he played you......:dunno:

That must have just been the week he played you......:dunno:

2ndIInone, sho nuff, and PBDS all bailed and all finished at the bottom. Not my problem since I'm not in this league though.:cool:

Yes he did..........I was at his house one sunday and he was checking it every 15 minutes.

PBDS won it all the first year we played I'm pretty sure. This was the year before you were in the league. My team was awful that year. I drafted all of the guys who had good years before that year but sucked it up afterward.

Short term memory loss. Shoff nuff and PBDS did not play their teams last year, and 2ndIInone missed the draft and dumped half his team and picked up a bunch of nobodys in the FA's and quit on his team.

I told you, I will play the football league long as someone else hosts it. I will never again play in a league where gringo is the commish. Does the term classless bum come to mind? Lock my ****ing team and carry on the way he did .

you left him no other choice, what was he supposed to do?

you left him no other choice, what was he supposed to do?

Click the veto button and stfu about it.

Click the veto button and stfu about it.

you threatened to dump your team....

Click the veto button and stfu about it.

You are a cheater. Nobody likes cheaters. I have given you chances but you spit in my face and EVERYONE elses face in the league.

Somebody give up their spot for me.

Seriously.

Don't be gay.

Somebody give up their spot for me.

Seriously.

Don't be gay.

fantasowned...

I'm gonna dominate this league again.

2ndIInone, sho nuff, and PBDS all bailed and all finished at the bottom. Not my problem since I'm not in this league though.:cool:


That was only for baseball and I lost my interweb connection.


I ran last years Fantasy football and did well.

just PM us gringo when the league is set-up...

I'm going to create a league pretty soon, even though the season is a long way away.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS:

I need to get a feel for who is going to be participating in this league. I'd like to get a lot of the same guys who were in it last year, as well as some new guys who will check their teams on the regular.

Sonny
PBDS
Fix
Torino
Raesaad
Gomez
Blood
Jefe
2nd_II_None
Lefty
FairPole
Gringo

^ This would be a pretty solid all around league...enough experience...hopefully everybody would check their team. Post in this thread if you'd like to join the league otherwise.
Sign me up Charlie....

Sonny has started a new fantasy league.

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/142460

League Name: Power Trip
ID# 142460
Password: yourmomma

Draft is currently set for Sat Aug 25 6:30pm but I could change it to Friday the 24th if that works better for more people.

Sonny has started a new fantasy league.

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/142460

League Name: Power Trip
ID# 142460
Password: yourmomma

Draft is currently set for Sat Aug 25 6:30pm but I could change it to Friday the 24th if that works better for more people.

Lets go football fans, sign up...

For anyone worried about the individual defense, here's a decent article:


My first fantasy football draft stunk.

Literally, it stunk. The draft took place in a basement in Iowa City, and it smelled like Keystone and cigarillos. It was either 1991 or 1992. In those days, football drafts were boozy things that lasted five hours. You went into them with an NFL preview magazine and a spiral notebook. If you were lucky, you left with Warren Moon and a manageable buzz.

All I can clearly remember about my first draft, aside from the odor, is that my co-owner was useless and we selected Derrick Thomas very early. Too early, as it turned out. But at the time we felt that Thomas was among the best of the Individual Defensive Players (IDPs). In that league, in addition to the usual offensive skill positions, we started a full 11-man defensive lineup.

If your football league has similar settings, you'll need more than just this article. This is merely a primer. It's an introduction. If you're starting 11 IDPs, that's a pretty hardcore league. The guiding principles below will apply, but you'll find the position rankings to be insufficient. IDP configurations will normally use fewer than 11 players, though. In my primary league we start a total of four defensive players. But I've played in leagues that use one IDP, and I've played in leagues that use 11. If you're a league commissioner planning to replace the DEF position with some yet-to-be-determined number of IDPs, I'd recommend starting slow. Don't overwhelm your owners. Use only four or five defensive players this season.

If you're an owner struggling with draft preparation in an IDP league, these are a few important things to consider …

Know your scoring system
This seems brutally obvious, but fantasy owners blow it all the time. They blow it in every sport, too. Custom configurations require customized rankings. Nearly every list of IDP rankings you'll encounter was developed using the assumption that fantasy points will be awarded for tackles and assisted tackles. My list assumes that, too. That's why middle linebackers rule the IDP rankings. But I've played in leagues that don't use tackles at all, and I've played in leagues where sacks are assigned absurd values. In those configurations, defensive ends were significantly more important.

These are the scoring settings we use for defensive players in my main IDP league:

1 point per tackle
0.5 points per assist
2 points per sack
4 points per interception
2 points per forced fumble
2 points per fumble recovery
2 points per safety
1 point per pass defended
3 points per blocked field goal
6 points per defensive touchdown

That's fairly standard. But if you tweaked it just a little, you'd have to alter your player rankings to reflect the changes.

Don't draft Brian Urlacher in the fifth round
This also goes for Ray Lewis, Jason Taylor, Champ Bailey and anyone else you think might be the best player at his position. The likely fantasy point differential between those players and a guy you can get six rounds later is … well, it's almost nothing. There's really not a ton of separation among the IDPs.

In my IDP league in 2006, Urlacher was the ninth-leading scorer among all defensive linemen and linebackers (DLs). He finished the fantasy season with 142.5 points. Nice, but the 25 DLs after Urlacher all finished within 32 points of his year-end total. So Urlacher was no more than two points per week better than a several players who were available in the free-agent pool all season.

In fantasy, the difference between the No. 1 IDP at any position and the No. 10 guy isn't anything like the difference between, say, Peyton Manning and Jon Kitna. I won't generally draft IDPs until I've sketched out most of my offensive lineup and added depth at running back. This was a lesson that I learned in the early-90s. (See above). Basically, I'm not likely to draft any of the players I've ranked one through five at DL or DB. There's not a discernable drop-off at the end of my lists, either. There are plenty of defensive players who can produce stats comparable to the guys ranked 15 and beyond.

The best real-life defensive players aren't necessarily the biggest fantasy scorers, by the way. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. For example, Champ Bailey was a Pro Bowl cornerback in 2004. That season he had three interceptions and 12 passes defended – not a very helpful fantasy season. Bailey can have a profound impact on an actual game, obviously. Opposing quarterbacks often avoid the receiver he's covering, resulting in fewer opportunities to make plays that have fantasy relevance. He was still a stellar fantasy DB in 2005 and 2006, though. So it goes with corners.

Just draft players who make tackles
In other words, draft as many tackle-prone middle and weak-side linebackers as you can. Those are the players who will score 8-12 points for your team every week. Occasionally, those guys might have an exceptional week, getting a pick, forcing a fumble. Or they may never have an exceptional week. Either way, they'll always give you points. Tackles and assists are relatively predictable.

Other defensive scoring categories are far more difficult to project. You can't really predict defensive touchdowns for any player. Nobody had more than two of them last season. Similarly, you can't reliably predict that any player will get turnovers in a given week. If you're in a Yahoo! league that uses DL and/or D positions, get the linebackers who post big tackle totals. It's the safest, most reliable path. Except …

Well, OK, maybe you can draft one non-tackling freak
Just get the right freak. In my IDP league last year, I owned DB Devin Hester. He was only credited with nine tackles, but he scored six special teams touchdowns and almost single-handedly won two weeks for me. In a deeper IDP league, an explosive kick returner can be worth a flier.

Pre-rank the top IDPs before drafting
In the Yahoo! default rankings, Dan Klecko is number 233 and Zach Thomas is 808. Klecko is a defensive tackle for the Indianapolis Colts who played 10 games last season. He was credited with four tackles. He sacked no one. Zach Thomas had 103 solo tackles in 2006, and he assisted on 62 more.

Even if my suggestions and my player ranks disgust you, it's important that you listen to me on this point: you'll want to pre-rank your IDPs. Yahoo! didn't do it for you. Auto-pickers who don't prepare for their draft will suffer consequences.

Top 35 at DL

1. Keith Bulluck, Tennessee
2. Brian Urlacher, Chicago
3. DeMeco Ryans, Houston
4. London Fletcher, Washington
5. A.J. Hawk, Green Bay
6. Zach Thomas, Miami
7. Will Witherspoon, St. Louis
8. Antonio Pierce, NY Giants
9. Lofa Tatupu, Seattle
10. Kirk Morrison, Oakland
11. Mike Peterson, Jacksonville
12. Keith Brooking, Atlanta
13. Shawne Merriman, San Diego
14. Jason Taylor, Miami
15. Ray Lewis, Baltimore
16. Lance Briggs, Chicago
17. Karlos Dansby, Arizona
18. Ernie Sims, Detroit
19. D.J. Williams, Denver
20. DeMarcus Ware, Dallas
21. Adalius Thomas, New England
22. Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay
23. Bart Scott, Baltimore
24. E.J. Henderson, Minnesota
25. Gary Brackett, Indianapolis
26. Andra Davis, Cleveland
27. Donnie Edwards, Kansas City
28. Julius Peppers, Carolina
29. Jonathan Vilma, New York Jets
30. Paul Posluszny, Buffalo
31. James Farrior, Pittsburgh
32. Terrell Suggs, Baltimore
33. Nick Barnett, Green Bay
34. Aaron Kampman, Green Bay
35. Freddy Keiaho, Indianapolis

Top 30 at DB

1. Adrian Wilson, Arizona
2. Kerry Rhodes, NY Jets
3. Chris Hope, Tennessee
4. Gibril Wilson, NY Giants
5. Roy Williams, Dallas
6. Sean Jones, Cleveland
7. Bob Sanders, Indianapolis
8. Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay
9. Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia
10. Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh
11. Champ Bailey, Denver
12. Ed Reed, Baltimore
13. Sean Taylor, Washington
14. Charles Tillman, Chicago
15. Antoine Winfield, Minnesota
16. Madieu Williams, Cincinnati
17. Stuart Schweigert, Oakland
18. Dunta Robinson, Houston
19. Rashean Mathis, Jacksonville
20. Michael Lewis, San Francisco
21. Antrel Rolle, Arizona
22. Donte Whitner, Buffalo
23. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland
24. Will Demps, New York Giants
25. Richard Marshall, Carolina
26. Jermaine Phillips, Tampa Bay
27. Nick Collins, Green Bay
28. LaRon Landry, Washington
29. Asante Samuel, New England
30. Ken Hamlin, Dallas

For anyone worried about the individual defense, here's a decent article:


My first fantasy football draft stunk.

Literally, it stunk. The draft took place in a basement in Iowa City, and it smelled like Keystone and cigarillos. It was either 1991 or 1992. In those days, football drafts were boozy things that lasted five hours. You went into them with an NFL preview magazine and a spiral notebook. If you were lucky, you left with Warren Moon and a manageable buzz.

All I can clearly remember about my first draft, aside from the odor, is that my co-owner was useless and we selected Derrick Thomas very early. Too early, as it turned out. But at the time we felt that Thomas was among the best of the Individual Defensive Players (IDPs). In that league, in addition to the usual offensive skill positions, we started a full 11-man defensive lineup.

If your football league has similar settings, you'll need more than just this article. This is merely a primer. It's an introduction. If you're starting 11 IDPs, that's a pretty hardcore league. The guiding principles below will apply, but you'll find the position rankings to be insufficient. IDP configurations will normally use fewer than 11 players, though. In my primary league we start a total of four defensive players. But I've played in leagues that use one IDP, and I've played in leagues that use 11. If you're a league commissioner planning to replace the DEF position with some yet-to-be-determined number of IDPs, I'd recommend starting slow. Don't overwhelm your owners. Use only four or five defensive players this season.

If you're an owner struggling with draft preparation in an IDP league, these are a few important things to consider …

Know your scoring system
This seems brutally obvious, but fantasy owners blow it all the time. They blow it in every sport, too. Custom configurations require customized rankings. Nearly every list of IDP rankings you'll encounter was developed using the assumption that fantasy points will be awarded for tackles and assisted tackles. My list assumes that, too. That's why middle linebackers rule the IDP rankings. But I've played in leagues that don't use tackles at all, and I've played in leagues where sacks are assigned absurd values. In those configurations, defensive ends were significantly more important.

These are the scoring settings we use for defensive players in my main IDP league:

1 point per tackle
0.5 points per assist
2 points per sack
4 points per interception
2 points per forced fumble
2 points per fumble recovery
2 points per safety
1 point per pass defended
3 points per blocked field goal
6 points per defensive touchdown

That's fairly standard. But if you tweaked it just a little, you'd have to alter your player rankings to reflect the changes.

Don't draft Brian Urlacher in the fifth round
This also goes for Ray Lewis, Jason Taylor, Champ Bailey and anyone else you think might be the best player at his position. The likely fantasy point differential between those players and a guy you can get six rounds later is … well, it's almost nothing. There's really not a ton of separation among the IDPs.

In my IDP league in 2006, Urlacher was the ninth-leading scorer among all defensive linemen and linebackers (DLs). He finished the fantasy season with 142.5 points. Nice, but the 25 DLs after Urlacher all finished within 32 points of his year-end total. So Urlacher was no more than two points per week better than a several players who were available in the free-agent pool all season.

In fantasy, the difference between the No. 1 IDP at any position and the No. 10 guy isn't anything like the difference between, say, Peyton Manning and Jon Kitna. I won't generally draft IDPs until I've sketched out most of my offensive lineup and added depth at running back. This was a lesson that I learned in the early-90s. (See above). Basically, I'm not likely to draft any of the players I've ranked one through five at DL or DB. There's not a discernable drop-off at the end of my lists, either. There are plenty of defensive players who can produce stats comparable to the guys ranked 15 and beyond.

The best real-life defensive players aren't necessarily the biggest fantasy scorers, by the way. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. For example, Champ Bailey was a Pro Bowl cornerback in 2004. That season he had three interceptions and 12 passes defended – not a very helpful fantasy season. Bailey can have a profound impact on an actual game, obviously. Opposing quarterbacks often avoid the receiver he's covering, resulting in fewer opportunities to make plays that have fantasy relevance. He was still a stellar fantasy DB in 2005 and 2006, though. So it goes with corners.

Just draft players who make tackles
In other words, draft as many tackle-prone middle and weak-side linebackers as you can. Those are the players who will score 8-12 points for your team every week. Occasionally, those guys might have an exceptional week, getting a pick, forcing a fumble. Or they may never have an exceptional week. Either way, they'll always give you points. Tackles and assists are relatively predictable.

Other defensive scoring categories are far more difficult to project. You can't really predict defensive touchdowns for any player. Nobody had more than two of them last season. Similarly, you can't reliably predict that any player will get turnovers in a given week. If you're in a Yahoo! league that uses DL and/or D positions, get the linebackers who post big tackle totals. It's the safest, most reliable path. Except …

Well, OK, maybe you can draft one non-tackling freak
Just get the right freak. In my IDP league last year, I owned DB Devin Hester. He was only credited with nine tackles, but he scored six special teams touchdowns and almost single-handedly won two weeks for me. In a deeper IDP league, an explosive kick returner can be worth a flier.

Pre-rank the top IDPs before drafting
In the Yahoo! default rankings, Dan Klecko is number 233 and Zach Thomas is 808. Klecko is a defensive tackle for the Indianapolis Colts who played 10 games last season. He was credited with four tackles. He sacked no one. Zach Thomas had 103 solo tackles in 2006, and he assisted on 62 more.

Even if my suggestions and my player ranks disgust you, it's important that you listen to me on this point: you'll want to pre-rank your IDPs. Yahoo! didn't do it for you. Auto-pickers who don't prepare for their draft will suffer consequences.

Top 35 at DL

1. Keith Bulluck, Tennessee
2. Brian Urlacher, Chicago
3. DeMeco Ryans, Houston
4. London Fletcher, Washington
5. A.J. Hawk, Green Bay
6. Zach Thomas, Miami
7. Will Witherspoon, St. Louis
8. Antonio Pierce, NY Giants
9. Lofa Tatupu, Seattle
10. Kirk Morrison, Oakland
11. Mike Peterson, Jacksonville
12. Keith Brooking, Atlanta
13. Shawne Merriman, San Diego
14. Jason Taylor, Miami
15. Ray Lewis, Baltimore
16. Lance Briggs, Chicago
17. Karlos Dansby, Arizona
18. Ernie Sims, Detroit
19. D.J. Williams, Denver
20. DeMarcus Ware, Dallas
21. Adalius Thomas, New England
22. Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay
23. Bart Scott, Baltimore
24. E.J. Henderson, Minnesota
25. Gary Brackett, Indianapolis
26. Andra Davis, Cleveland
27. Donnie Edwards, Kansas City
28. Julius Peppers, Carolina
29. Jonathan Vilma, New York Jets
30. Paul Posluszny, Buffalo
31. James Farrior, Pittsburgh
32. Terrell Suggs, Baltimore
33. Nick Barnett, Green Bay
34. Aaron Kampman, Green Bay
35. Freddy Keiaho, Indianapolis

Top 30 at DB

1. Adrian Wilson, Arizona
2. Kerry Rhodes, NY Jets
3. Chris Hope, Tennessee
4. Gibril Wilson, NY Giants
5. Roy Williams, Dallas
6. Sean Jones, Cleveland
7. Bob Sanders, Indianapolis
8. Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay
9. Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia
10. Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh
11. Champ Bailey, Denver
12. Ed Reed, Baltimore
13. Sean Taylor, Washington
14. Charles Tillman, Chicago
15. Antoine Winfield, Minnesota
16. Madieu Williams, Cincinnati
17. Stuart Schweigert, Oakland
18. Dunta Robinson, Houston
19. Rashean Mathis, Jacksonville
20. Michael Lewis, San Francisco
21. Antrel Rolle, Arizona
22. Donte Whitner, Buffalo
23. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland
24. Will Demps, New York Giants
25. Richard Marshall, Carolina
26. Jermaine Phillips, Tampa Bay
27. Nick Collins, Green Bay
28. LaRon Landry, Washington
29. Asante Samuel, New England
30. Ken Hamlin, Dallas
thanks for the heads-up... this should be somehow helpful...

I signed up, see you in the draft in 40 days!

Now that the league is set and everyone is in I need people to tell me if they FOR SURE cannot draft at this current draft time. We can change it...so don't stress about it.

I can't wait! I am playing in 4 different leagues this season,I ****ing love this fantasy shit.I can't believe I went all these years without playing fantasy sports until last year......

Now that the league is set and everyone is in I need people to tell me if they FOR SURE cannot draft at this current draft time. We can change it...so don't stress about it.
we'll be changing shifts at work by the first week of august so i'll update you by then if im good with the schedule...

I can't wait! I am playing in 4 different leagues this season,I ****ing love this fantasy shit.I can't believe I went all these years without playing fantasy sports until last year......
got hooked with it the first time i played it... though my teams sucked after a succesful 1st year, i've played the game ever since... 6 years now if i remember it right... :p

DL Avg Rank

Jason Taylor – MIA 1.0 1 1 1 1 1 1

Julius Peppers – CAR 2.5 2 3 3 2 6 2

Aaron Kampman – GB 2.75 4 2 2 3 2 4

Aaron Schobel – BUF 4.0 5 4 7 4 3 3

Terrell Suggs – BAL 4.5 3 5 4 5 4 5

Will Smith – NO 6.25 7 6 5 6 17 6

Osi Umenyiora – NYG 7.0 6 7 8 8 5 7

Robert Mathis – IND 8.0 8 8 6 7 11 9

Derrick Burgess – OAK 9.25 10 11 9 10 7 8

Tamba Hali – KC 10.5 12 10 10 9 14 10

Leonard Little – STL 10.75 9 15 11 11 8 12

Charles Grant – NO 11.75 11 9 12 13 13 11

Justin Smith – CIN 13.25 14 13 14 12 9 18

Kyle Vanden Bosch – TEN 14.5 15 12 13 15 16 15

John Abraham – ATL 16.0 17 19 NR 17 12 14

Trent Cole – PHI 16.0 16 16 21 14 15 17

Mark Anderson – CHI 16.3 13 17 24 19 NR 13

Mario Williams – HOU 18.5 19 18 15 20 18 19

Bertrand Berry – ARZ 20.0 23 23 16 18 23 16

Patrick Kearney – SEA 20.75 18 20 19 22 22 22

Chike Okeafor – ARZ 20.75 20 22 20 21 25 20

Matthias Kiwanuka – NYG 21.5 27 14 18 NR NR 27

Ty Warren – NE 22.0 25 25 22 16 10 29

Michael Strahan – NYG 22.6 21 NR NR 23 NR 24

James Hall – DET 24.5 22 28 NR NR 20 28

Andre Carter – WSH 24.6 NR 24 17 24 24 26

Dwight Freeney – IND 25.25 24 NR 25 29 NR 23

Jamaal Anderson – ATL 25.3 28 21 NR 27 NR NR

Trevor Pryce – BAL 27.75 29 29 23 26 27 25

Ebenezer Ekuban – DEN 29.3 30 26 28 30 30 NR



Sleepers

Osi Umenyiora, New York Giants - Umenyiora is coming off a down year when he was riddled with injuries, but he has been a very good fantasy DL in the past, and he’s certainly talented enough to do it again this year.

Luis Castillo, San Diego Chargers - Castillo missed nearly half the season due to injuries but was a solid DL when healthy, logging 7 sacks in just 9 starts in 2006. He could be a decent producer if he can stay on the field this year.

John Abraham, Atlanta Falcons - Missed half the 2006 season and his numbers suffered because of it, but he was a good fantasy lineman in the 3 previous years and could very well end up turning it back around in ’07.

Busts

Jared Allen, Kansas City Chiefs - There are some disputes with his contract, and Allen faces a four game suspension when the season starts. He could potentially be drafted highly because of his good ’06 numbers, but Allen is a very risky guy to have right now.

Michael Strahan, New York Giants - Strahan will likely be drafted early based on name recognition, but he’s getting up there in age, and it’s somewhat unlikely he’ll produce at a high level for much longer.

LB Avg Rank K
iKeith Bulluck – TEN 1.5 2 2 1 1 2 1

DeMeco Ryans – HOU 1.75 1 1 2 2 3 2

Zach Thomas – MIA 3.5 4 3 3 4 1 4

London Fletcher – WAS 4.75 5 4 4 5 5 6

Brian Urlacher – CHI 4.75 3 6 7 3 7 3

Will Witherspoon – STL 5.5 7 5 5 6 6 5

Antonio Pierce – NYG 8.0 8 9 6 9 8 7

Mike Peterson – JAX 8.5 11 7 9 8 4 10

A.J. Hawk – GB 9.25 6 8 11 7 11 11

Ray Lewis – BAL 10.0 9 10 10 11 17 9

Kirk Morrison – OAK 10.0 12 12 8 10 10 8

Lofa Tatupu – SEA 11.0 10 11 13 NR 9 12

Ernie Sims – DET 13.5 13 14 18 12 14 13

Shawne Merriman – SD 14.5 14 18 17 13 13 14

Keith Brooking – ATL 15.0 15 17 15 14 15 15

Donnie Edwards – KC 15.5 20 16 14 15 12 17

D.J. Williams – DEN 18.0 17 13 20 17 NR 22

Bart Scott – BAL 19.0 18 15 NR 16 24 23

Gary Brackett – IND 19.5 21 24 19 19 16 19

Andra Davis – CLE 20.25 16 21 21 21 21 18

Lance Briggs – CHI 20.75 22 19 12 20 22 25

Derrick Brooks – TB 20.75 19 23 16 18 23 26

E.J. Henderson – MIN 21.3 NR NR 23 NR 20 21

Paul Posluszny – BUF 21.75 23 20 NR 24 NR 20

Jonathan Vilma – NYJ 23.3 24 22 24 22 NR 24

James Farrior – PIT 23.5 27 NR 25 NR 26 16

DeMarcus Ware – DAL 24.6 25 30 NR NR 19 NR

Julian Peterson – SEA 26.0 26 NR 22 28 NR 28

Patrick Willis – SF 26.3 28 25 27 23 NR 27

Nick Barnett – GB 27.0 29 27 26 26 18 25



Sleepers

Mike Peterson, Jacksonville Jaguars - Peterson was injured most of last year, but expect him to bounce back big this season. He finished 5th among LBs in this scoring system in ‘05 and 7th in ’04, and while he’s been slipping in drafts he remains a top LB on my lists.

Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Backed up Shelton Quarles the past couple years, but with Quarles now out of Tampa, Ruud takes over as the starting MLB for the Buccaneers in 2007.

Freddy Keiaho, Indianapolis Colts - Keiho moves in to replace the departed Cato June this year, and Dungy linebackers are always productive, so Freddy could be a steal in some drafts.

Busts

Donnie Edwards, Kansas City Chiefs - Moving to a new team, and Edwards will now be an OLB for the Chiefs after playing in the middle for years in San Diego. It’s not yet known how much this will affect his numbers, but he could be a bust next season.

Cato June, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - June was a huge success in Indy the past couple of years but now moves to a new team with a less defensive-minded coach. Linebackers in the Dungy system always produce, but it remains to be seen how he’ll do in Tampa.

DB Avg Rank K
Adrian Wilson – ARZ 1.0 1 1 1 1 1 1

Chris Hope – TEN 2.5 4 3 2 3 2 2

Kerry Rhodes – NYJ 2.5 2 2 3 2 4 3

Gibril Wilson – NYG 3.75 3 6 4 4 3 4

Sean Jones – CLE 5.25 5 4 5 5 10 6

Brian Dawkins – PHI 7.0 9 11 8 6 5 5

Ronde Barber – TB 7.25 8 7 6 7 8 7

Roy Williams – DAL 8.75 7 5 11 8 18 9

Antoine Winfield – MIN 10.25 11 10 9 12 9 11

Bob Sanders – IND 10.75 15 8 10 10 6 15

Troy Polamalu – PIT 11.0 6 9 13 14 17 8

Charles Tillman – CHI 11.5 10 12 7 11 24 13

Champ Bailey – DEN 13.0 12 16 14 9 21 10

Sean Taylor – WAS 13.0 13 17 12 13 11 14

Madieu Williams – CIN 13.5 14 13 15 16 7 12

Michael Lewis – SF 16.5 16 15 19 17 12 18

Stuart Schweigert – OAK 17.0 25 NR 17 18 14 16

Donte Whitner – BUF 18.25 17 14 22 15 23 19

Richard Marshall – CAR 19.75 NR 19 20 24 16 NR

Ed Reed – BAL 20.5 21 22 16 23 13 24

Antoine Bethea – IND 21.0 22 18 25 20 NR 21

LaRon Landry – WAS 22.25 20 23 27 19 28 17

Adam Archuleta – CHI 22.3 19 20 NR 29 20 27

Antrel Rolle – ARZ 22.5 30 21 18 21 22 26

Nick Collins – GB 23.75 29 27 21 27 19 20

Roman Harper – NO 24.0 23 24 28 25 NR 22

Dunta Robinson – HOU 24.75 24 25 23 26 25 25

Jermaine Phillips – TB 25.0 NR NR 24 22 29 NR

Kenoy Kennedy – DET 27.25 26 28 NR NR 26 29

Will Demps – NYG




found these defensive rankings..... hope it helps.

It'd be nice to get Peppers....since I've never played like this with an indvidual D,I just know he is good for sacks,fucmbles forced and recovered and even an int or td or two.

It'd be nice to get Peppers....since I've never played like this with an indvidual D,I just know he is good for sacks,fucmbles forced and recovered and even an int or td or two.

i want demico ryans.... out of B-A-M-A

The trick will be to figure out when to pick the defensive players vs. the offensive players. They probably won't be worth as many points as qb's, rb's and wr's, but are they as valuable as a te? Possibly.

BTW, I think Rex Grossman is going to have a big season. He won't be a top 5 qb, but I think he will be in that 6-9 range.

Leonard Little is going to have a huge year.




You guys hear about Priest Holmes showing up at chiefs traing camp. lol

Yeah Rex better have a good year. He has all the motivation in the world.

I have a good feeling about Brandon Jacobs too. He's no Tiki Barber, but I think he will do well as the featured back.

I have a good feeling about Brandon Jacobs too. He's no Tiki Barber, but I think he will do well as the featured back.

they signed ruben droughns didnt they? jacobs wont be the featured guy.

they signed ruben droughns didnt they? jacobs wont be the featured guy.

Droughns is washed up. I doubt he gets 50 touches this season.

I have a good feeling about Brandon Jacobs too. He's no Tiki Barber, but I think he will do well as the featured back.

No doubt......It'll be interesting to see if he is really that good or if he was just good after Tiki shredded the D all afternoon as well.

Droughns is washed up. I doubt he gets 50 touches this season.

washed up.....he had a good year last year... he became expendable once jamal lewis signed.

washed up.....he had a good year last year... he became expendable once jamal lewis signed.

Well the Giants have Jacobs listed as the #1 rb. I think he will get the chance to prove he can suceed as an every down back. If he can't Droughns will get more yards but Jacobs will still be the 3rd down and red zone back. He got 9 td's last year. He'll probably get double digits next year.

We shall see... But I would definitly pick up Jacobs as a low #2 or high #3 back. Droughns would be no better than a low #4 back to me.

I think Travis Henry is going to be the man this season....right up there with LT,given the history of RB succeeding in Den.

I think Travis Henry is going to be the man this season....right up there with LT,given the history of RB succeeding in Den.

LT will get injured and miss at least 6 games this season.

You heard it here first.

:stooges:

LT will get injured and miss at least 6 games this season.

You heard it here first.

:stooges:

Bold guess......we'll see.

Bold guess......we'll see.

He's due for an injury shortened season. If not this year, then next for sure.

When is this leagues opening..or was I just shut out??

Well I was able to get Peyton,CHI defense,Benson,Henry and Moss in 2nds league.......all players I really wanted and were on my wish list if I could get them all thru the first 5 rounds......Mission accomplished now just gotta hope my guess work on these guys all having great years works out.

i cant wait for the season to start....my team in 2nds league should be damn solid.

i cant wait for the season to start....my team in 2nds league should be damn solid.

Yeah i was just checking everyones team....you are nice.I gambled on some thing I think may happen but I think I should do pretty well and possibly really well if things go as planned.

Yeah i was just checking everyones team....you are nice.I gambled on some thing I think may happen but I think I should do pretty well and possibly really well if things go as planned.

i went for a balanced team, i dont feel like i have any weak spots.

i havent checked your team yet, post it here.

i went for a balanced team, i dont feel like i have any weak spots.

i havent checked your team yet, post it here.

just check it I ain't posting all that shit.I went out on a limb especially since preseason is yet to begin.

When is this leagues opening..or was I just shut out??

Sorry Rosewood...the league was full when when I first saw your post that you wanted in. I logged off and forgot to reply...been busy lately. Even when one person who was in dropped out I had two others that were waiting on that opening. It's too bad there are only 12 slots available.

Oh and that shit I was talking about CC and JuCo in the HH forum was just that...shit talk. I was just jabbing at Mr. Sensitive Smokin, who tries to bother people here on purpose. I appreciate anyone who wants to help themselves by getting an education, whether that's at a larger university or a smaller school or otherwise. What you said was true...I respect that.

Football season can't get here soon enough...

Sorry Rosewood...the league was full when when I first saw your post that you wanted in. I logged off and forgot to reply...been busy lately. Even when one person who was in dropped out I had two others that were waiting on that opening. It's too bad there are only 12 slots available.

Oh and that shit I was talking about CC and JuCo in the HH forum was just that...shit talk. I was just jabbing at Mr. Sensitive Smokin, who tries to bother people here on purpose. I appreciate anyone who wants to help themselves by getting an education, whether that's at a larger university or a smaller school or otherwise. What you said was true...I respect that.
Thanks playa...Do trip on it..I can't stand Smokin but I'm for anyone trying the school thang..

I just knew I was going to get in this league..Well, if someone is dropped or whatever, **** the rest I'm first in line..Thank again playa

Draft this Friday is that correct?

You bitches is going down.

Really sorry about this guys but I will not be able to make the draft tommorow, you can give Rosewood my spot, I'll just quit the league but someone else will have to give him the password.

Really sorry about this guys but I will not be able to make the draft tommorow, you can give Rosewood my spot, I'll just quit the league but someone else will have to give him the password.

You can list your players before the draft. You don't have to be present for the draft, the computer will select for you.

Yeah but I figure it would be better to have a GM that was there at the draft so they know their team and stuff. I gotta help someone move tommorow so I won't be home at 6. I quit the league by the way, figured that the spot could be filled. It's no big deal.

Bitches don't stand a chance.

Tonights the draft.......can't ****ing wait!

Yeah but I figure it would be better to have a GM that was there at the draft so they know their team and stuff. I gotta help someone move tommorow so I won't be home at 6. I quit the league by the way, figured that the spot could be filled. It's no big deal.


It is a big deal if we don't fill the position. Now we only have an 11 player league.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND JOIN THE LEAGUE NOW, BEFORE 6:30!!

I won't be there but I ranked as many good players as I could somewhere around 240. But yeah good luck to all of you. I wish I could make the draft to ensure I know what I'm getting but oh well. Gotta work peace.

sorry everyone im on vacation but i heard about the drop out so i'm trying to fix it right now.

It appears fixed.....ready to go! Hopefully most people are there for the draft so it doesn't take all ****ing night.....since there are defensive players too.

Really sorry about this guys but I will not be able to make the draft tommorow, you can give Rosewood my spot, I'll just quit the league but someone else will have to give him the password.
Thanks playa...I got that #1 spot....

i cant believe my defense....out****ingstanding

i cant believe my defense....out****ingstanding

I'm iffy on mine.I don't have a lot of guys that make solo tackles.should do well in the other categories tho.

ak47's defense has a couple guys on it that havent played since 2005....yikes.


a couple guys.... i dont know where they learned to pick defense but some are just terrible.

I'm iffy on mine.I don't have a lot of guys that make solo tackles.should do well in the other categories tho.


your defense is solid....look at seconds...its brutal... he should have been there.

your defense is solid....look at seconds...its brutal... he should have been there.

yeah I am hoping for Brown and Crowder to have breakout seasons.

yeah I am hoping for Brown and Crowder to have breakout seasons.

im still lolling at some of the guys defense.... most of them are just bad...like 4 teams with a solid defense


ficks
rae
bingo
sonny


thats it.

im still lolling at some of the guys defense.... most of them are just bad...like 4 teams with a solid defense


ficks
rae
bingo
sonny


thats it.

the yahoo rankings seemed rediculous and whoever wasn't there was getting best available taken....lol Gomez got a horrible defense too.....his projections are below one point per defender for the whole game.:lol1:

I hate picking 6th or 7th in a 12 man league... I was hoping to pick Gore or Alexander from the 6th spot, but of course no dice. I'm a little nervous about Addai and Jones-Drew. Both guys have limitless potential, but both, especially Jones-Drew could fall off the map...

I am pleased with my wr's, and my qb's. I think Brady will have a big year throwing to Moss and Stallworth.

Dang my team isn't too shabby. Gotta get some DL but that's about it.

I couldn't join..I got windows 98 at home and i'm guessing thats too old...I predrafted pretty good so my offense was nice...My defense is horrible...I'm talkin guy I, a die hard football fan, have never heard of.....I'm also open for trades ...

I hate picking 6th or 7th in a 12 man league... I was hoping to pick Gore or Alexander from the 6th spot, but of course no dice. I'm a little nervous about Addai and Jones-Drew. Both guys have limitless potential, but both Drew-Jones especially could fall off the map...

I am pleased with my wr's, and my qb's. I think Brady will have a big year throwing to Moss and Stallworth.
I need Brady...unass him Sonny...

I need Brady...unass him Sonny...

No problem man. I'm always up for a good trade...

No problem man. I'm always up for a good trade...
CHECK ME OUT AND LETS DEAL PLAYA

ak47's defense has a couple guys on it that havent played since 2005....yikes.


a couple guys.... i dont know where they learned to pick defense but some are just terrible.
haha!!! dude, i wasn't there... i thought the drafts on the 21st and didn't even prerank my players... looked at it just now and i'm prolly going to end up with last place... gonna play though and will still give all of you a good season from my vrappy team... mwahahahaha...

freakin disgrace... my first season with BS guys and my team is crap... damn it...

freakin disgrace... my first season with BS guys and my team is crap... damn it...

try and make some trades and get some guys from the waiver and you can build a team.Things are gonna change over the next month or two and there should be plenty of sleepers and busts.

I'm stopping in for a minute. Yesterday my father suffered a heart attack. He's ok but he was driving to lunch with my mother at the time so they were both hospitalized. I'm stopping at home for a quick shower and a change of clothes.

I've no intention of withdrawing from the league but I know you're all pissed. I'll do what I can to salvage the team I haven't looked at yet.

-Gomez

I'm stopping in for a minute. Yesterday my father suffered a heart attack. He's ok but he was driving to lunch with my mother at the time so they were both hospitalized. I'm stopping at home for a quick shower and a change of clothes.

I've no intention of withdrawing from the league but I know you're all pissed. I'll do what I can to salvage the team I haven't looked at yet.

-Gomez

there are still tons of defensive talent left in the free agent pool...

CHECK ME OUT AND LETS DEAL PLAYA

Check your pm inbox...

I'm stopping in for a minute. Yesterday my father suffered a heart attack. He's ok but he was driving to lunch with my mother at the time so they were both hospitalized. I'm stopping at home for a quick shower and a change of clothes.

I've no intention of withdrawing from the league but I know you're all pissed. I'll do what I can to salvage the team I haven't looked at yet.

-Gomez

I'm really sorry to hear that man. Do what you have to do with your family and try to set your lineup for 5 minutes each week. And if you can't set the line up a few weeks it's not the end of the world. I almost always screw up and forget to set my lineup at least 1 week out of 16.

I'm really sorry to hear that man. Do what you have to do with your family and try to set your lineup for 5 minutes each week. And if you can't set the line up a few weeks it's not the end of the world. I almost always screw up and forget to set my lineup at least 1 week out of 16.

I'm back at home. They're both fine but obviously this was the last thing on my mind. My team makes me chuckle. The top 1/2 of its talent pool isn't all that bad... but the bottom half looks like the computer can't pick worth shit.

Looks like the computer fell in love w/ Wide Receivers and completely neglected my D. I'll start sifting through the rubble in the next couple of days and see what I can put together.

I'm back at home. They're both fine but obviously this was the last thing on my mind. My team makes me chuckle. The top 1/2 of its talent pool isn't all that bad... but the bottom half looks like the computer can't pick worth shit.

Looks like the computer fell in love w/ Wide Receivers and completely neglected my D. I'll start sifting through the rubble in the next couple of days and see what I can put together.

The game aside I am glad your family is ok and you are all home safe......My mom passed 4 years ago and my dad is far from a father figure so I understand the sadness you feel given you have two alive and responsible parents and one had a medical condition......hell I even really love and care alot about my dad and would be crushed if he passed.....even tho he's never showed me the same compassion.

Now to the game..........Literally the yahoo defensive ranks were either non exsitant or totally ****ed.I mean the only way I found a few guys I wanted was by going to the alphabetical listing and picking guys I've heard of.anyone not at the draft got horrible defensive players.Yahoo really blew it not having them ranked for the auto pick and for those who might not know much about D.

my defense is amazing and thats what really matters..



but sorry to hear that dirt e, hope everything is good with your parents now.

try and make some trades and get some guys from the waiver and you can build a team.Things are gonna change over the next month or two and there should be plenty of sleepers and busts.
trying to do that now... i'll check by tomorrow when FA's come up... don't want to gamble my good place on waivers just in case :D

I'm back at home. They're both fine but obviously this was the last thing on my mind. My team makes me chuckle. The top 1/2 of its talent pool isn't all that bad... but the bottom half looks like the computer can't pick worth shit.

Looks like the computer fell in love w/ Wide Receivers and completely neglected my D. I'll start sifting through the rubble in the next couple of days and see what I can put together.
good to hear that... still suffering from the shock of my uncle's death... his heart just stopped beating the other wednesday and he was gone... i hope they get better fast...

my first public league draft will start in one hour... 1st pick please :p

my first public league draft will start in one hour... 1st pick please :p
I'm checking your roster now....you might have the goods..

I'm checking your roster now....you might have the goods..
got the 6th pick for tonight... starting in 10 minutes... my team is prolly one of the worst in our league...

got the 6th pick for tonight... starting in 10 minutes... my team is prolly one of the worst in our league...
what is your team name in the BS league??

what is your team name in the BS league??
AK47... :D

AK47... :D

I sent you a trade proposal.

I cleaned up on the waiver wire....I went from $hit to sugar with my defence..You dudes in trouble now..

AK47...I'll see what you are working with..

So...lets put a 2k bet on the league....the winner gets 2k from everyone...something to spice it up a little...

As, I'M OPEN FOR TRADES..HALF OF YOU DUDES NEED PLAYERS ANYWAY...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I cleaned up on the waiver wire....I went from $hit to sugar with my defence..You dudes in trouble now..

AK47...I'll see what you are working with..

You snatched my boy Antonio Pierce away before I could snag him. He'll have a good year, but the Giants could be in trouble defensively if they don't get Strahan in camp.

I went ahead and picked up Ray Lewis. He's not the stud he once was, but I think he will have a big year. I read he was in the best shape of his life and has added swimming and wrestling to his daily workout. If he can stay healthy for 16 games he could still be the best defensive player in the game...

edit here is the quote: Ray Lewis should be past his prime. The Ravens linebacker has played 11 years in the NFL, and last month he celebrated his 32nd birthday. Instead, Lewis has seemingly found a way to defy the aging process. He showed up at minicamp looking as trim as he was during his rookie season in 1996. Lewis didn't drop pounds. But he's much leaner than he was a year ago, thanks to a revamped workout schedule in which he did most of his exercising at night and added kickboxing, wrestling and swimming to the mix. A year ago, he indicated that he wanted to be traded if the Ravens didn't shore up their defensive front line. Now, all he wants to do is be a standout linebacker on the only NFL team he's ever played for. "The adjustment that's happened in my life right now, I can't explain it," he said. "My mom has been talking about it, like, everyday. I'm just telling her the things that I'm doing in the weight room and the way I'm running right now, I've never felt that."

Attention all fantasy players.

I am looking for a quality RB. I will entertain all trade offers but if they are not reasonable don't even bother...

back from vacay...i like what my old roommate drafted for me. i should have a solid year here. couldn't have asked for a better 1/2/3 with jackson, palmer & wayne.

You snatched my boy Antonio Pierce away before I could snag him. He'll have a good year, but the Giants could be in trouble defensively if they don't get Strahan in camp.

I went ahead and picked up Ray Lewis. He's not the stud he once was, but I think he will have a big year. I read he was in the best shape of his life and has added swimming and wrestling to his daily workout. If he can stay healthy for 16 games he could still be the best defensive player in the game...

edit here is the quote: Ray Lewis should be past his prime. The Ravens linebacker has played 11 years in the NFL, and last month he celebrated his 32nd birthday. Instead, Lewis has seemingly found a way to defy the aging process. He showed up at minicamp looking as trim as he was during his rookie season in 1996. Lewis didn't drop pounds. But he's much leaner than he was a year ago, thanks to a revamped workout schedule in which he did most of his exercising at night and added kickboxing, wrestling and swimming to the mix. A year ago, he indicated that he wanted to be traded if the Ravens didn't shore up their defensive front line. Now, all he wants to do is be a standout linebacker on the only NFL team he's ever played for. "The adjustm