View Full Version : Manny Pacquiao . . . . . . creme' de la creme'.


psychopath
10-17-2004, 07:48 PM
When fellows of good spirit gather round to discuss the merits of boxing today, one issue is never in doubt. 'We need more good fighters that fight." Manny Pacquiao should be the poster boy for "good fighters". He is one of the few that though he holds no "official title" is the creme' de la creme'. He holds no official title because a Frog judge (aka "Surrender Monkey") saw his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez (42-2) as 110-115 for the Mexican. That score is even more outrageous when Pacquaio scored three knockdowns in the first round. Three knockdowns dictates a 10-6 round for the winner. Monsieur Jutras then gave 9 of the next 11 to Marquez? Horsediddle! That's not the only bad luck that's dogged The Pac Man. As mentioned his promoter, Murad Muhammad, is an empty pinch back suit with a bow tie and a hatred of "white devils", has done nothing to do what he's suppose to do. Get fights for Pacquiao. After a month of training in California The Pac Man has returned to the Philippines. He's also terminated his promotional deal with Murad. "This is my decision. He's made more money from my previous fights. That's why I will now terminate my contract with him." Next up for now free agent Pacquiao is Aussie Gary St. Clair (35-3). St. Clair's three losses came at the hands of world-class fighters Diego Corralas, Vivian Harris and Leonard Dorin. Add to the mix that he's never been KO'd and you have the makings of one hell of a November treat. I'll drink to that.


Here's the link to the whole article . . .

http://ko.sherdog.com/viewnews.cfm?newsid=1098050546

JOM'S
10-18-2004, 01:27 PM
I have finished reading the article and thats what boxing really need, good fighters that fight an apt description for PacMan...

Maybe the boxing world should look more to the east (ASIA) for talent and In the Philippines alone I think we could find a bunch of really good fighters that fight (maybe still a little polishing on the rough edges)...

psychopath
10-18-2004, 04:19 PM
Aside from distinguishing Manny Pacquiao's unparralelled drive to establish his name in the sports by sheer performance without HYPES without career manipulations,the article also shows how other people look at Murad's performance as a promoter. :D

THRILLAinmanila
10-19-2004, 03:26 AM
I have finished reading the article and thats what boxing really need, good fighters that fight an apt description for PacMan...

Maybe the boxing world should look more to the east (ASIA) for talent and In the Philippines alone I think we could find a bunch of really good fighters that fight (maybe still a little polishing on the rough edges)...


Speaking about Filipino fighters, I saw this Rey Bautista's fight in Korea the other day. I think he can be another Pacman with his aggressive style and flair. I think he is only in his late teens or early 20s. Z "the dream" Gorres, who is set to make his US debut soon also has a very good reputation and potential as a future champ.

JOM'S
10-20-2004, 02:13 AM
Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista is one good fighter hope that he can train and fight in the US very soon....

THRILLAinmanila
10-20-2004, 05:07 AM
Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista is one good fighter hope that he can train and fight in the US very soon....

Freddie Roach should train this guy. We need to keep the
clan growing. More MannyPacs please !!

muay
10-20-2004, 07:01 AM
Freddie Roach should train this guy. We need to keep the
clan growing. More MannyPacs please !!

This kid is only 18 y/o! Read somewhere that Larry Holmes saw one fight and has offered to train this very young kid. I hope Larry could help develop his skills and career.

JOM'S
10-20-2004, 09:41 AM
I think if Larry Holmes will train Boom Boom, the US boxing fans will witness a new & exciting entry to the boxing world by another Filipino fighter, hope his handlers will be able to send him to Larry Holmes for training Rey Bautista is a diamond in the rough and Holmes can polish that.....

m00ks
10-20-2004, 03:22 PM
Boom Boom is going to cause a stir for sure, Can't wait till he makes his us debut.

ELPacman
10-20-2004, 03:29 PM
Oh man! I wanna see Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista fight so bad! I hear the fight recaps online from his fights in the Ph. He's SICK! They say he has more power than Manny and has sent his last 2 opponents straight to the hospital in a stretcher. His power is freakish strong. I really wish he'd make a US debut. I swear, unless fighters come to the US, no matter how great they are, they can be unheard of until they retire. It's sad though true. We need to get more of these Asian fighters off the boat and over here because they are have serious potential that many overlook. I bet you 70% of the Asian fighters can hold their own here. It's a matter of being able to get them here to get a nice career going such as Mannys'.

m00ks
10-20-2004, 04:35 PM
Oh man! I wanna see Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista fight so bad! I hear the fight recaps online from his fights in the Ph. He's SICK! They say he has more power than Manny and has sent his last 2 opponents straight to the hospital in a stretcher. His power is freakish strong. I really wish he'd make a US debut. I swear, unless fighters come to the US, no matter how great they are, they can be unheard of until they retire. It's sad though true. We need to get more of these Asian fighters off the boat and over here because they are have serious potential that many overlook. I bet you 70% of the Asian fighters can hold their own here. It's a matter of being able to get them here to get a nice career going such as Mannys'.

The gates to America for Filipino fighters appear to be in Thailand. Sad thing is, it's teinted with mismatches and horrible hometown decisions. Only a selected few, those who are good enough and who take the fight out of the judges hands, the likes of Manny and hopefully Boom Boom in the near future makes it through.

psychopath
10-21-2004, 08:10 AM
Oh man! I wanna see Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista fight so bad! I hear the fight recaps online from his fights in the Ph. He's SICK! They say he has more power than Manny and has sent his last 2 opponents straight to the hospital in a stretcher. His power is freakish strong. I really wish he'd make a US debut. I swear, unless fighters come to the US, no matter how great they are, they can be unheard of until they retire. It's sad though true. We need to get more of these Asian fighters off the boat and over here because they are have serious potential that many overlook. I bet you 70% of the Asian fighters can hold their own here. It's a matter of being able to get them here to get a nice career going such as Mannys'.


Yes true he is the most promising among the local pugs at present. Comparing him with Manny . . . Boom boom STARTED more scientifically that Pac.

lapulapu
10-21-2004, 01:15 PM
Yes true he is the most promising among the local pugs at present. Comparing him with Manny . . . Boom boom STARTED more scientifically that Pac.

I must agree that we have more good boxers out there. But it's not so easy to come here. Even we don't like some of the people surrounding Pacquiao, we still need these people to help real fighters like Pacman come to the US.

psychopath
10-21-2004, 07:27 PM
I must agree that we have more good boxers out there. But it's not so easy to come here. Even we don't like some of the people surrounding Pacquiao, we still need these people to help real fighters like Pacman come to the US.


That's right I can't argue with that. Now we have Gorrez training with Roach....as of the latest Boom Boom is set to fly to Holmes traing camp this January . . . hopefully the rest would be given same opportunity. It's not only the training . . . it is also the exposure and experience which they can only achieve in U.S. ;)

THRILLAinmanila
10-21-2004, 09:52 PM
Oh man! I wanna see Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista fight so bad! I hear the fight recaps online from his fights in the Ph. He's SICK! They say he has more power than Manny and has sent his last 2 opponents straight to the hospital in a stretcher. His power is freakish strong. I really wish he'd make a US debut. I swear, unless fighters come to the US, no matter how great they are, they can be unheard of until they retire. It's sad though true. We need to get more of these Asian fighters off the boat and over here because they are have serious potential that many overlook. I bet you 70% of the Asian fighters can hold their own here. It's a matter of being able to get them here to get a nice career going such as Mannys'.


El Pacman, you should have seen him demolish his Korean opponent last time around. This Bautista guy has long reach, insatiable energy, and an almost reckless but calculated style of out-punching his opponent. I agree, he has a LOT more fundamentals than Manny in terms of defense and technique. He will surely be a world champion soon....

JOM'S
10-22-2004, 02:24 AM
Guys, ElPacman do you have some clips of Boom Boom to share and upload in the video section, thanks in advance.....