I have a weakness for fine coffee, is this really bad for me? I'm trying to get in shape, not to fight just for health reasons.:boxing:

I have a weakness for fine coffee, is this really bad for me? I'm trying to get in shape, not to fight just for health reasons.:boxing:

A cup of coffee a day won't kill you, but it certainly doesn't help you to get inshape.

I drink a small cup, about 10oz 3-4 times per week around 5am when I get up to go to work. doesnt seem to effect me in the weight department at all.

3-5 cups a day is recomended, extra energy antioxydants etc.

studies say that coffe is a lot healthier than we thought it were, so enjoy your coffe.

3-5 cups a day is recomended, extra energy antioxydants etc.

studies say that coffe is a lot healthier than we thought it were, so enjoy your coffe.

careful with advice like that leff. 3-5 cups daily is in no way recommended, except maybe by Maxwell House.

There are studies that show possible benefits, but for an athlete, it's probably better to avoid it. I'm not saying it's bad at all, just that I haven't read a single publication that RECOMMENDS that you drink coffee, and considering how much a boxer must watch his diet, I wouldn't have a whole lot, personally I don't drink any at all.

And what is the source of this 'extra energy'? And if antioxidants are such a concern to you, eat an orange...
Antioxidants aren't really all so wonderful anyways, I can promise you that everyone who guzzles down liters of green tea for all those wonder-antioxidants doesn't even know what they do, or what antioxidant even means...

I'm not coming at you at all (Leff), just giving my 2 cents

my understanding of coffee is that it causes insulin ****es that in turn encourages your body to store more fat.. tea's a lot better if you like it..

I agree, I would try not to drink too much coffee.

The only reason I'd see not to drink Black coffee in that quantity is the fact that it's a diuretic so you'd have to drink more water to avoid dehydration.


my understanding of coffee is that it causes insulin ****es that in turn encourages your body to store more fat.. tea's a lot better if you like it..

That's ridiculous.

Sometimes I think the internet should be seriously filtered. Also there's something called genetics. Where people store fat is directly dependent on their gene history and that accounts for most body types.

Floyd Mayweather Jr eats bag of chips after cracker after candy bar daily. Doesn't make a bit of difference because of how hard he works to burn the calories off......and he's just genetically muscular and toned like his Father.

He could sit on the couch all day long and eat spaghetti and have the same exact BFP he does now. That's just the way he was created.

careful with advice like that leff. 3-5 cups daily is in no way recommended, except maybe by Maxwell House.

There are studies that show possible benefits, but for an athlete, it's probably better to avoid it. I'm not saying it's bad at all, just that I haven't read a single publication that RECOMMENDS that you drink coffee, and considering how much a boxer must watch his diet, I wouldn't have a whole lot, personally I don't drink any at all.

And what is the source of this 'extra energy'? And if antioxidants are such a concern to you, eat an orange...
Antioxidants aren't really all so wonderful anyways, I can promise you that everyone who guzzles down liters of green tea for all those wonder-antioxidants doesn't even know what they do, or what antioxidant even means...

I'm not coming at you at all (Leff), just giving my 2 cents


its recommended, i can find you the article but i wont do much good since its in norwegian.

caffein is the source for extra energy.

oranges and coffe have different types off antioxydants.

it often seems that americans aint fully uppdated on nutriton.

(i have no hard feeliongs in a debate)

its recommended, i can find you the article but i wont do much good since its in norwegian.

caffein is the source for extra energy.

oranges and coffe have different types off antioxydants.

it often seems that americans aint fully uppdated on nutriton.

(i have no hard feeliongs in a debate)


Hmm.. i don't know much about anti-oxidants and all that jazz... but as for the source of caffiene as an energy...

my work mate, he's a top class half marathon runner - he runs for his county and wins or is top 5 in nearly all the races he's been since i've known him. He says that a lot of runners would drink extremely strong cups of coffee before racing i.e 6 tea spoons of coffee, one sugar and a little water. Neck the liquid fast for an energy boost which would make them abound for the race.

This was so frequent that now they are tested for excess caffiene, and it is a banned substance apparently. Obviously, small amount are allowed but very large amounts are grounds for penalisation.

... i'm sure i could find the legislation somewhere on the net.

So... i guess caffiene could get you an edge on competition day.

Caffeine can give you a performance edge, that is actually true, but it can also make other aspects worse.

And Leff, I'm glad you have no hard feelings, because I don't either, but I'm pretty well up to date with this kind of literature. I know it sounds kinda asshole...ish, but all serious scientific papers today are published in english, I mean, right now I'm working in Germany, but everything I do is in english. So if what you're refering to isn't published in english, then I wouldn't take it too seriously... no offense or anything, I'm not saying WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU or anything, but it's just the way it is nowadays.

Again, no disrespect, but none of the great trainers in the world are feeding their fighters coffee.

That being said, there can be some advantages, but there are advantages in all kinds of things...

Caffeine can give you a performance edge, that is actually true, but it can also make other aspects worse.

And Leff, I'm glad you have no hard feelings, because I don't either, but I'm pretty well up to date with this kind of literature. I know it sounds kinda asshole...ish, but all serious scientific papers today are published in english, I mean, right now I'm working in Germany, but everything I do is in english. So if what you're refering to isn't published in english, then I wouldn't take it too seriously... no offense or anything, I'm not saying WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU or anything, but it's just the way it is nowadays.

Again, no disrespect, but none of the great trainers in the world are feeding their fighters coffee.

That being said, there can be some advantages, but there are advantages in all kinds of things...


you know what trick - when i fight next season and i'm in a smokey pub and i've been at work all day and as a senior i'm on later in the show - i may even be physically drain from sweating out a couple of pounds. A few cups of sugary tea or coffee might just do the trick and might even calm the nerves?

you know what trick - when i fight next season and i'm in a smokey pub and i've been at work all day and as a senior i'm on later in the show - i may even be physically drain from sweating out a couple of pounds. A few cups of sugary tea or coffee might just do the trick and might even calm the nerves?

Sure, it may, depending on you, if anything, if it just relaxes you then hell, why not I suppose. Although chemically it makes you more agitated, it calms a lot of people down.

I'm just saying, drinking 4 cups of coffee per day like it's some health drink is pretty ridiculous.

I'm just saying, drinking 4 cups of coffee per day like it's some health drink is pretty ridiculous.

yea, i see your point.

Also, coffee itself isn't too bad, but lots of people load their's up with sugar, cream and the like, which isn't such a good idea.

coffee contains more natural antioxidants than green tea.

coffee contains more natural antioxidants than green tea.

hmm, didn't know that.

Though antioxidants don't really have anything to do with boxing

Trick, I didn't come here to argue with you.. I was just making a point.

Green tea has like, 150 or something per cup. Coffee has around 400, if my memory serves me correct. Consuming lots of antioxidants and natural foods is key to maintaining a healthy body.

Having said that, I have drank coffee before training and prefer to not do that. I find I ration my energy much better without it. It makes you lose liquid much faster, it makes me feel like more of a front runner.\

I love it in the morning, though.

can someone explain exactly what antioxodants are/do? I'm a lazy sod and can't be arsed lookin it up.

[QUOTE=SquareCircle;2432109]Trick, I didn't come here to argue with you.. I was just making a point.
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Haha, no worries, I'm not tryin' to argue with anyone either. It's not really a very serious issue. Antioxidants are important indeed.

As to what they do, you can't really understand that if you don't know much about the body. Basically, their most important thing is the binding of free radicals. Long story short... VERY long story very short, free radicals cause shit, and antioxidants give them the smack down.

Free radical oxygen is made all the time, and basically the more energy you make (how much shit you metabolize) the more free radicals you make.

[QUOTE=SquareCircle;2432109]Trick, I didn't come here to argue with you.. I was just making a point.
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Haha, no worries, I'm not tryin' to argue with anyone either. It's not really a very serious issue. Antioxidants are important indeed.

As to what they do, you can't really understand that if you don't know much about the body. Basically, their most important thing is the binding of free radicals. Long story short... VERY long story very short, free radicals cause shit, and antioxidants give them the smack down.

Free radical oxygen is made all the time, and basically the more energy you make (how much shit you metabolize) the more free radicals you make.
hmmm.... think I need to do some more reading, I though free radicals were a shit boy band or something

Not too excess......One cup before a fight.....

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hmmm.... think I need to do some more reading, I though free radicals were a shit boy band or something

hahaha, man, I see that happening

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002105.html

Caffeine can give you a performance edge, that is actually true, but it can also make other aspects worse.

And Leff, I'm glad you have no hard feelings, because I don't either, but I'm pretty well up to date with this kind of literature. I know it sounds kinda asshole...ish, but all serious scientific papers today are published in english, I mean, right now I'm working in Germany, but everything I do is in english. So if what you're refering to isn't published in english, then I wouldn't take it too seriously... no offense or anything, I'm not saying WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU or anything, but it's just the way it is nowadays.

Again, no disrespect, but none of the great trainers in the world are feeding their fighters coffee.

That being said, there can be some advantages, but there are advantages in all kinds of things...


im sure the original article is in english , ill see if i can find it

im sure the original article is in english , ill see if i can find it

Cool, I'd wanna give that a read