ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
06-01-2007, 01:15 PM
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View Full Version : SUPER HARDCORE TRAINING 4 boxing, MMA, etc ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 01:15 PM http://icemanjohnscully.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=918&sid=01c5e18af8881c9abb2a127278e7cbc0#918 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 04:36 PM Yes , it IS a great site :) Seriously, though, Come on now...I am curious to see if anyone has ever done this type of training or workout?? SpeedKillz 06-01-2007, 06:12 PM i got ross's infinite intensity, never gymless, boxer's guide to performance enhancement, punching with power, underground guide to warrior fitness. HE IS THE MAN!! i do his workouts all the time PunchDrunk 06-01-2007, 06:55 PM That type of stuff is a staple of the training I put my fighters through. I have them do straight up strength training, but also strength oriented exercises in more of a circuit training form. Ex. 30/30/30/30 with 4 different exercises, and 1 minute rests, to mimick the 2 minute amateur rounds (it comes out to slightly over 2 minutes, as they get a few seconds to change between exercises). It still works your strength, and increases your power endurance MUCH more than just going for a run. You literally have to be scraped off the floor after 6 rounds. :) shawn_ 06-01-2007, 08:04 PM Ross is THE man. Dude is nuts. I personaly do burpies and ab wheel roll outs (cant do them standing yet) and alot of the other stuff ross preaches. He is the only person on the internet who I will really take fitness advice from. He really believes in what he does, and is really involved in helping any of his forum members. Buying his book is one of the best things I ever did. Glad to see you finaly posting in this forum ICE. Good to see a reputible trainer in the forum. shawn_ 06-01-2007, 08:06 PM The craziest thing I have ever seen him do is one arm standing ab wheel roll outs with like 80lb of weighted vests. PunchDrunk 06-01-2007, 08:21 PM That is truly INSANE!! shawn_ 06-01-2007, 08:27 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pv_1j4dH0 shawn_ 06-01-2007, 08:33 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFfy9lXFGE ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 10:24 PM Yea, my man Ross does some wild stuff. I knew him way before he got to where he is now and the difference in his body is CRAZY. And the best thing is it is all natural, just HARD HARD work on a daily basis. BrooklynBomber 06-01-2007, 10:31 PM Some wicked stuff, mate ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 11:23 PM There are other equally hard core and informative videos etc on his sites www.rossboxing.com and www.rosstraining.com It's crazy because I run into people all the time who buy his books and use his methods and when I tell them that I know him well and that he lives close by they don't believe it. They follow his methods and use them with success and have no idea he lives just a few miles from them. shawn_ 06-01-2007, 11:23 PM Yeah, ross is the guy that really inspired me to step up my training. Its payed countless dividends in the ring. I now go out to the beach every saturday morning and kill myself doing interval training. I incorperated body weight exercises (burpies, one leg pistols, clap pushups) into my conditioning and body work at the boxing gym. I do all of his active recovery stuff too. It really helps you stay in good working order. There are alot of greedy people out on the internet that preach lots of crap trying to get your money, but Ross isnt one of those guys. I have nothing but respect for the guy. I would strongly recomend any one of his books to anyone looking to better themselves. shawn_ 06-01-2007, 11:28 PM One question for you ICE, have you ever used Ross as a conditioning coach for any of your fighters? I see these guys forking over huge amounts of money to these guys like Mackie Shilstone, but if I was training for a pro fight, my first call would be to Ross Enamait. ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 11:30 PM [QUOTE=shawn_;2404859] There are alot of greedy people out on the internet that preach lots of crap trying to get your money, but Ross isnt one of those guys. I have nothing but respect for the guy. QUOTE] EXACTLY. That his whole MO, doing it for guys to get in top shape the HARD way. And I can tell u this... there is nothing in his book, no tough exercises etc that he doesn't do as well. It's not like he tells you to do all these crazy things and he's not doing them, too. That's REAL and THAT to me is why he is successful now and will one day be EXTREMELY successful. ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-01-2007, 11:32 PM [QUOTE=shawn_;2404875]One question for you ICE, have you ever used Ross as a conditioning coach for any of your fighters?QUOTE] Yes, I have. And one guy who I think I want to use him for is USBA 122 champ Mike Oliver who might have a VERY BIG fight coming up in the near future. shawn_ 06-01-2007, 11:45 PM Thats a really good move. Im not sure if it was an Oliver fight I saw on tv or what, but you were in the corner, and I liked the way you worked it. Some trianers like Buddy McGirt have a huge stable of fighters that he basicaly just throws to the wolves, but you seem to have a small stable of fighers that you care about. It really bothers me when I see trainers that care more about the win then their fighters health. Of course, the first step of staying safe in the ring is comming in strong and in shape. No better way to do that than to use Ross. Keep up the good work ICE, and where can I get a copy of your book? I agree with you, Ross will eventualy be very successfull. j 06-02-2007, 12:09 AM seen these a long time ago. very nice workout. i have done many, not all, of the exercises demonstrated on the videos. i like to be creative when working out. a major differnce between what i do, is that i don't do as many isolated exercises. good stuff though! ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-02-2007, 12:58 AM [QUOTE=shawn_;2404923] Keep up the good work ICE, and where can I get a copy of your book? QUOTE] As soon as it is ready to print I will let everybody on here know, definitely ICE ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-02-2007, 07:28 PM Thats a really good move. Im not sure if it was an Oliver fight I saw on tv or what, but you were in the corner, and I liked the way you worked it. Some trianers like Buddy McGirt have a huge stable of fighters that he basicaly just throws to the wolves, but you seem to have a small stable of fighers that you care about. I appreciate that, my man. I actually have three pros and several amateurs that I concentrate on right now. Pito cardona fights out in Las Vegas on June 23 (Hatton-Castillo card) and Oliver fights on ESPN in July. yrrej 06-03-2007, 04:21 PM Strong is good, everything else being equal. But guys spend hours in the gym everyday to achieve this kind of strength. They don't have enough energy left to do anything else unless they are on steroids. At the highest levels of martial arts and boxing, you see some of these exercises, e.g. car pushing, tire hitting, push-ups, etc., but not such an emphasis on extreme strength. Learning good leverage and technique is more important for a professional in my opinion. I remember the build-up to a fight between a former NCAA wrestling champ who could press 400 pounds in a mixed martial arts contest with Carlos Gracie, Jr. Gracie, who didn't look like he could press 200 pounds, mounted the guy who, in spite of his incredible strength, couldn't budge Gracie an inch and quickly lost. But I think you already know this, Iceman.... ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY 06-03-2007, 11:45 PM But I think you already know this, Iceman.... Yea. on that end I always say.....despite your great strength, speed, weight lifiting ability etc etc...you still have to have SKILLS shawn_ 06-04-2007, 01:04 AM Its true, actual strength and punching power dont really correlate well. Power comes from technique. Technique, however, requires freshness. When you get tired, you get sloppy. Strength is also helpful in clinches and in fighting. j 06-04-2007, 03:41 AM At the highest levels of martial arts and boxing, you see some of these exercises, e.g. car pushing, tire hitting, push-ups, etc., but not such an emphasis on extreme strength. Learning good leverage and technique is more important for a professional in my opinion. I remember the build-up to a fight between a former NCAA wrestling champ who could press 400 pounds in a mixed martial arts contest with Carlos Gracie, Jr. Gracie, who didn't look like he could press 200 pounds, mounted the guy who, in spite of his incredible strength, couldn't budge Gracie an inch and quickly lost. But I think you already know this, Iceman.... martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible. but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess. BrooklynBomber 06-04-2007, 10:54 AM martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible. but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess. I see what you talking about, I seen older guys who were not nearly is strong or quick, but they were always at the right place, at the right angle and at the right time to beat their opponents. phallus 06-05-2007, 01:13 AM martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible. but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess. i've met a couple of 50 year old that shamed guys half their age. i'd like to be like that. rossboxing rules, i'm starting to get into his workouts, his stuff is da ****. ross understands that " when u train in hell, u see it's not such a bad place " - jens pulver KingDosia 06-05-2007, 11:48 AM Damn If I had a Dollar for every guy I have referred to Ross for training I'd be a Rich man. And to see PunchDrunk approves of the workout cements it for me. I think a lot of coaches don't put forth the effort to school their kids on basic strength and endurance training, It's sad to see Good post Iceman, |