This is what I get when I try to email your work address. NOTE: This was sent before we left for Adelaide.


----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <seldomTap@work.com>

----- Transcript of session follows ----- <seldomTap@work.com>... Deferred: work.com.: No route to host Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue

Basically there's no route to your work mail server.

Your work needs to get their **** together. No, really. Tell your system admin. You might get a promotion. Explain that the outside world cannot email them. Period.

- The Jake

you can email me.

No ****...you are the only person this happens to! Shara's get through, ones I send from home get through. People from other offices get through...have you got the address right?

OK... I didn't want to do this:

From the OPTUS network:

Performing trace to work.com...
1 FastEth8-1-0.sb1.optus.net.au (192.168.34.2) 1.144 ms 0.817 ms 0.650 ms
2 GigEth12-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.132) 15.140 ms 14.298 ms 14.636 ms
3 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 25.343 ms 25.036 ms 25.088 ms
4 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 25.152 ms !X * 25.086 ms !X

The X indicates no route to host.

From the TELSTRA network:
traceroute to work.com, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 FastEthernet6-0.civ-service1.Canberra.telstra.net (203.50.1.65) 0.459 ms 0.387 ms 0.445 ms
2 GigabitEthernet3-0.civ-core2.Canberra.telstra.net (203.50.10.129) 0.524 ms 0.376 ms 0.445 ms
3 Pos2-1.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.133) 7.956 ms 7.903 ms 7.977 ms
4 GigabitEthernet1-1.lon42.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.76.90) 7.782 ms 7.714 ms 7.645 ms
5 optvs.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.6.26) 9.112 ms 8.769 ms 8.587 ms
6 GigEth1-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.4) 8.44 ms 8.323 ms 8.752 ms
7 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.802 ms 19.291 ms 19.807 ms
8 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.708 ms * 19.407 ms
9 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.681 ms *
10 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.358 ms * 19.632 ms
11 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.48 ms *
12 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.616 ms * *
13 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.777 ms * 21.94 ms
14 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 32.311 ms *
15 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.384 ms * *
16 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 96.693 ms * *
17 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.588 ms * *
18 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.981 ms *
19 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.444 ms
20 * * *
21 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.698 ms *
22 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.831 ms
23 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.585 ms *
24 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.468 ms * *
25 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.618 ms
26 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.409 ms *
27 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.442 ms * *
28 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.635 ms * *
29 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.707 ms * 19.337 ms
30 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.685 ms *

From the CONNECT network:
traceroute to work.com, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 fastethernet9-0-0.bdr2.syd.connect.com.au (192.189.54.55) 1.466 ms 0.94 ms 1.266 ms
2 ATM11-0-0-5.sn2.optus.net.au (202.139.7.69) 2.547 ms 2.38 ms 2.276 ms
3 GigEth12-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.132) 19.242 ms 19.427 ms 19.678 ms
4 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.691 ms 29.398 ms 29.334 ms
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 * * *
8 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.229 ms
9 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.443 ms
10 * * *
11 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.682 ms * *
12 * * *
13 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.695 ms * 30.09 ms
14 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.152 ms *
15 * * *
16 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.338 ms *
17 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.033 ms * *
18 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.154 ms *
19 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.834 ms *

This is traceroutes from three tier 1 ISPs within Australia. All three end up at the same point before they indicate problems.

I try and telnet thru to your work mail server on port 25 (this is SMTP - how all email is sent). I should be able to make a connection but I'm getting timeouts. This is why my mail server is bouncing it back.

None of them can route through to your mail server at work, so I can assure you that something is very very very wrong.

I got your email and I noticed that the mail server that email originated from is very different to the one given in DNS.

- The Jake

I just emailed your optus address...have you got it yet?

I got your email. I tried sending to a different address to see if it works.... lemme know if you get mail (if you do, note the email address I sent it to).

- The Jake

Well I'm ****ed if I know...I'll have to ask around on monday when some of the lazy admins are here

Will do...waiting now

is it long distance to email Australia

Yes Curly. $1.80 a line

Damn......AT&T sucks

Originally posted by seldomTap
Well I'm ****ed if I know...I'll have to ask around on monday when some of the lazy admins are here

I can't do this from here but what needs to be done is someone check the DNS records for your domain name (that's on your work email address after the @). Check the MX records against numerous name servers (telstra, optus & connect are a good start).

I'm willing to bet you should see some discrepancies there. You can claim the credit and get a promotion for highlighting the ineptitude of certain staff there.

- The Jake

It is a pricey game Curly!

5 minutes, no sign of Jakes email yet

Yep, your work network is truly stuffed.

Bear in mind I've emailed from two of the networks described above and both times I get the same error. So it's not just my end here.....

- The Jake

Originally posted by The Jake
I can't do this from here but what needs to be done is someone check the DNS records for your domain name (that's on your work email address after the @). Check the MX records against numerous name servers (telstra, optus & connect are a good start).

I'm willing to bet you should see some discrepancies there. You can claim the credit and get a promotion for highlighting the ineptitude of certain staff there.

- The Jake

Believe me...incompetence and ignorance are good grounds for promotion around this place. I am trying to be as inept as the rest, but it hurts me inside

Originally posted by The Jake
Yep, your work network is truly stuffed.

Bear in mind I've emailed from two of the networks described above and both times I get the same error. So it's not just my end here.....

- The Jake

well thats it...hands on heads, I aint working anymore.

use my hotmail account if you want mate

LOL - you're trying to be inept?? You don't want to be noticed?

- The Jake

I need to cause some serious network damage before any promotion is thrown my way it would seem.

My current TL can't even use ****en Outlook correctly...she is foreign to electricity

OK - hotmail it is.

Pretty sad state of affairs when a Microsoft owned service proves more reliable than your work email....

- The Jake

Foreign to electricity... hahahaha

- The Jake

Yes...my company blows

I'm glad I dropped all of my computer courses.

Originally posted by The Jake
OK... I didn't want to do this:

From the OPTUS network:

Performing trace to work.com...
1 FastEth8-1-0.sb1.optus.net.au (192.168.34.2) 1.144 ms 0.817 ms 0.650 ms
2 GigEth12-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.132) 15.140 ms 14.298 ms 14.636 ms
3 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 25.343 ms 25.036 ms 25.088 ms
4 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 25.152 ms !X * 25.086 ms !X

The X indicates no route to host.

From the TELSTRA network:
traceroute to work.com, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 FastEthernet6-0.civ-service1.Canberra.telstra.net (203.50.1.65) 0.459 ms 0.387 ms 0.445 ms
2 GigabitEthernet3-0.civ-core2.Canberra.telstra.net (203.50.10.129) 0.524 ms 0.376 ms 0.445 ms
3 Pos2-1.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.133) 7.956 ms 7.903 ms 7.977 ms
4 GigabitEthernet1-1.lon42.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.76.90) 7.782 ms 7.714 ms 7.645 ms
5 optvs.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.6.26) 9.112 ms 8.769 ms 8.587 ms
6 GigEth1-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.4) 8.44 ms 8.323 ms 8.752 ms
7 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.802 ms 19.291 ms 19.807 ms
8 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.708 ms * 19.407 ms
9 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.681 ms *
10 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.358 ms * 19.632 ms
11 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.48 ms *
12 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.616 ms * *
13 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.777 ms * 21.94 ms
14 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 32.311 ms *
15 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.384 ms * *
16 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 96.693 ms * *
17 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.588 ms * *
18 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.981 ms *
19 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.444 ms
20 * * *
21 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.698 ms *
22 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.831 ms
23 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.585 ms *
24 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.468 ms * *
25 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.618 ms
26 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.409 ms *
27 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.442 ms * *
28 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.635 ms * *
29 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.707 ms * 19.337 ms
30 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 19.685 ms *

From the CONNECT network:
traceroute to work.com, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 fastethernet9-0-0.bdr2.syd.connect.com.au (192.189.54.55) 1.466 ms 0.94 ms 1.266 ms
2 ATM11-0-0-5.sn2.optus.net.au (202.139.7.69) 2.547 ms 2.38 ms 2.276 ms
3 GigEth12-0-0.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.188.132) 19.242 ms 19.427 ms 19.678 ms
4 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.691 ms 29.398 ms 29.334 ms
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 * * *
8 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.229 ms
9 * * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.443 ms
10 * * *
11 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.682 ms * *
12 * * *
13 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.695 ms * 30.09 ms
14 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.152 ms *
15 * * *
16 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.338 ms *
17 EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.033 ms * *
18 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 30.154 ms *
19 * EDS-2.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.63.222) 29.834 ms *

This is traceroutes from three tier 1 ISPs within Australia. All three end up at the same point before they indicate problems.

I try and telnet thru to your work mail server on port 25 (this is SMTP - how all email is sent). I should be able to make a connection but I'm getting timeouts. This is why my mail server is bouncing it back.

None of them can route through to your mail server at work, so I can assure you that something is very very very wrong.

I got your email and I noticed that the mail server that email originated from is very different to the one given in DNS.

- The Jake

...??!!

Okay. I'm hungry.

so am I...bring some food in for me dude!

Lou FerrigNO.

You idiot!