flipbjefrox
05-27-2007, 12:30 AM
Only lasted more than a minute.
Boxing will give u more highlight for the night than UFC.
Boxing will give u more highlight for the night than UFC.
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View Full Version : Liddell Vs. Chuck a Disappointment flipbjefrox 05-27-2007, 12:30 AM Only lasted more than a minute. Boxing will give u more highlight for the night than UFC. winkyisnasty13 05-27-2007, 12:31 AM Apparently UFC's "best fighter" sucks. Benny Leonard 05-27-2007, 12:33 AM Chuck lose? American_Ninja 05-27-2007, 12:34 AM Only lasted more than a minute. Boxing will give u more highlight for the night than UFC. At least get the names right. American_Ninja 05-27-2007, 12:34 AM Chuck lose? 1st round ko. Rampage new champ. Gareth Ivanovic 05-27-2007, 12:35 AM Yeah it was dissapointing that the fight didn't last very long. It was a nice KO, but I would have liked to see more though. -Antonio- 05-27-2007, 12:36 AM I hope someone can get this on youtube soon. Benny Leonard 05-27-2007, 12:36 AM thanks.................... Steak 05-27-2007, 12:36 AM he got his ass beat by simple, basic boxing ability. ________ Buy Glass Bong (http://glassbongs.org/) Plat 05-27-2007, 12:36 AM lol shut the **** up with that **** Gareth Ivanovic 05-27-2007, 12:37 AM At least get the names right. I don't know I kinda like that Liddell vs Chuck matchup. Easy-E 05-27-2007, 12:37 AM Wait so who won the **** Chuck or Liddell?? bishop2006 05-27-2007, 12:38 AM This Rampage is a beast,first time i watched a UFC event,Liddell got knocked the **** out in round one,how come theres so many undercards on the damn PPV,its half 5 in the morning in England,im goin sleep:puppy_dog ottoevans 05-27-2007, 12:38 AM out of all "the high octane" fights going on in the undercard only 3 fights out of the 9 fights lasted more than a round. about 10 min was the total length of those 6 fights combined that ended in the 1st round lol Gareth Ivanovic 05-27-2007, 12:39 AM Wait so who won the **** Chuck or Liddell?? Probably Double knockout. punchers_chance 05-27-2007, 12:40 AM That's the thing with the UFC...you might get more action, but it's a good chance the fight will be over within the first 1-2 minutes. With boxing you are generally guaranteed about 5 rounds of action with a big title fight. Still, I like both sports equally. ottoevans 05-27-2007, 12:41 AM like Floyd said UFC are guys who couldnt make it in Boxing pesticid 05-27-2007, 12:42 AM That's the thing with the UFC...you might get more action, but it's a good chance the fight will be over within the first 1-2 minutes. With boxing you are generally guaranteed about 5 rounds of action with a big title fight. Still, I like both sports equally. I think there should be a knockdown rule in UFC just like in boxing. I think it will make for a better product. mic573 05-27-2007, 12:42 AM out of all "the high octane" fights going on in the undercard only 3 fights out of the 9 fights lasted more than a round. about 10 min was the total length of those 6 fights combined that ended in the 1st round lol At least the UFC tries to show as many fights as possible. I love boxing but I get more out of most UFC ppv cards than I do most boxing ppv cards. Benny Leonard 05-27-2007, 12:43 AM Of course there will be quicker KOs, they are wearing tiny gloves and if you can elbow and kick (with no pads), the chances of surviving is lowered. Take any elite boxer in his prime like Foreman, Tyson, and Lewis, give them 4oz gloves, it would not last long either. I have always been for smaller gloves in boxing compared to the ones we have now, but I have to admit, 4oz gloves are to small for Heavyweight Boxing. -Antonio- 05-27-2007, 12:43 AM To each is own. Some people are satisfied with a knockout whether its uick or not. PrtyBoyDlicious 05-27-2007, 12:44 AM Now, who paid to watch this fight? Freaking idiots!!! ottoevans 05-27-2007, 12:45 AM At least the UFC tries to show as many fights as possible. I love boxing but I get more out of most UFC ppv cards than I do most boxing ppv cards. the difference Boxing puts real fighters or contenders in their undercard, not random guys who couldnt make it in Boxing Sweet Pea 50 05-27-2007, 12:45 AM Joe Rogan must be one butt hurt mother****er right now. Thank you for running your yap about "Rampage looks nervous to be in the octagon". It's people like Rogan that keep on winning me bets. Its not even a boxing vs mma thing. It's a **** Joe Rogan douchebag type of thing. You Lidell fans must MAD as ****... Benny Leonard 05-27-2007, 12:47 AM I think there should be a knockdown rule in UFC just like in boxing. I think it will make for a better product. Two things: UFC prides themseles on saying how safe they are compared to boxing because once a fighter is hurt it is stopped, where in boxing you are allowed time to recover and fight on (if you can). I know it may be more dangerous, but I prefer boxing for this reason. Could you imagine if Gatti vs. Ward was stopped early, we would of been robbed of the extended excitement. The other thing is that if you allow recovery time what do you do with the grapplers? When a person is stunned you see many people take the person down into submission if he does not go for the KO when up. MMA is supposed to be closer to "real fighting" so if a peson is stunned, there is not going to be a ref in real fight in there giving him an 8 count. And yes, I know there is a ref in MMA but that is not the point mic573 05-27-2007, 12:47 AM the difference Boxing puts real fighters or contenders in their undercard, not random guys who couldnt make it in Boxing MMA fighters didn't want to become boxers in the first place. Most come from martial arts backgrounds not boxing. -Antonio- 05-27-2007, 12:48 AM the difference Boxing puts real fighters or contenders in their undercard, not random guys who couldnt make it in Boxing Thats not true. The UFC cards are usually stacked. They can do that because fighters dont make a lot of money. punchers_chance 05-27-2007, 12:51 AM I hate the comparisons between UFC and boxing...they are different sports. Some people say boxers couldn't make it in the UFC....but then again what UFC fighters could be successful boxers? Fact is, some boxers could be successful UFC fighters if they trained for the sport...maybe some UFC fighters would be decent boxers if properly trained...but both sports have different rules and therefore one could not go from one to the other without significant training prior to the fight. However....a boxer going to the UFC has a much better chance of winning than a UFC fighter going to a boxing match. mic573 05-27-2007, 12:52 AM You know there are people talking **** but this fight is the topic of three threads in the boxing section. American_Ninja 05-27-2007, 12:52 AM I think there should be a knockdown rule in UFC just like in boxing. I think it will make for a better product. If they made a knock down rule it would be called K-1, or Pride, not UFC. vinnie7731 05-27-2007, 12:53 AM Now, who paid to watch this fight? Freaking idiots!!! yeah, cause we knew it would happen inside the first two minutes... we're freaking idiots owenrock69 05-27-2007, 12:53 AM I told everyone rampage would do it, chucks an old poser. Jackson and Henderson rule the UFC Benny Leonard 05-27-2007, 12:53 AM Just saw the fight on ESPN, boy, Rampage is really not that fast, yet he caught Chuck. So, I know I bring up a Prime Tyson, but how would of Chuck dealt with his speed and power? I think Chuck's trainer is right, Tyson, with a little time to learn some things like wrestling, would of done well. Of course we are talking about a younger version... American_Ninja 05-27-2007, 12:54 AM You know there are people talking **** but this fight is the topic of three threads in the boxing section. That's because it was a big event. A fight is a fight. American_Ninja 05-27-2007, 12:57 AM I told everyone rampage would do it, chucks an old poser. Jackson and Henderson rule the UFC Henderson hasn't even fought in the UFC yet. That old poser beat the current UFC HW champ twice. Liddell will be back. flipbjefrox 05-27-2007, 12:57 AM sorry about the title.. i tried changing it immediately but it wouldnt let me Kball15 05-27-2007, 12:57 AM Yea that sucked. Okay knockout, but im glad i didnt pay for that. probably wont buy UFC in the future either RwK 05-27-2007, 01:00 AM I told everyone rampage would do it, chucks an old poser. Jackson and Henderson rule the UFC Hmmmm yeah. Untill Shogun shows up and everyone screams and runs for the hills. Juggernaut 05-27-2007, 01:01 AM Hmmmm yeah. Untill Shogun shows up and everyone screams and runs for the hills. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bwIdbLCzqrg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bwIdbLCzqrg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> unity768 05-27-2007, 01:02 AM didnt last long, rampage caught chuck, chuck got KO'd...the undercard had some good fights, overall i liked the KO's and at least it was better than the de la hoya vs mayweather or jermain taylor vs spinks marathon runs ive seen in the past month lol. boxing better do something quick b/c the ufc is now on espn and on the front cover of sports illustrated owenrock69 05-27-2007, 01:05 AM and on the undercard Din Thomas called out mayweather and told all the boxers to come get some, Mayweather wants no part of Thomas RwK 05-27-2007, 01:07 AM <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bwIdbLCzqrg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bwIdbLCzqrg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> I'm watching again as we type. Man even though he's not a real MT fighter more hybrid Chute Boxe....he's the best at it and can strike better than anyone in the clinch who exists on the planet. You've seen training clips of him with the weighted cables attatched to his ankles kneeing the bag right? He does that every day. flipbjefrox 05-27-2007, 01:07 AM and on the undercard Din Thomas called out mayweather and told all the boxers to come get some, Mayweather wants no part of Thomas cintron wants some NoFear24 05-27-2007, 02:35 AM Is it me or is the recent Shogun kinda fat now? I remember seeing him kinda recent and he didn't look anywhere near as good of shape as he did there. DIOS DOMINICANO 05-27-2007, 04:13 AM MMA fighters didn't want to become boxers in the first place. Most come from martial arts backgrounds not boxing. " "Martial arts" and wrestling is A LOT more accessible than boxing. Most schools have wrestling teams. To box, you have to go to one of the few gyms in your city. There's a karate or JJ school in every strip mall nowadays. I don't think it is that guys don't WANT to box....I think it's largely about access. note, I put "martial arts" in quotes above because boxing IS a martial art, but we use the term to mean karate/kung fu/bjj/etc. McNulty 05-27-2007, 04:22 AM Liddel gave him too muich respect and fought like a punk. If he would have taken the fight to Jackson I think we might have had a different outcome. Mayhap Liddel is justplain scared of Rampage. What was up w/Chucks gut pouch? Maybe it was the beers but Rampage didnt look in the best of shape and both guys were real dry. Super Cartel 05-27-2007, 05:41 AM There poster boy gets his ass kicked lol Thats just it with UFC u can never really be a dominate champion cuz the whole thing is just to unpredictable anyone can land at any time Valgas 05-27-2007, 08:25 AM fff**** man im going to admit im new to UFC and im startin to like. quintons fight with shogun was ugly man. was that fight before or after shogun broke his arm? Could Quinton beat him now? pesticid 05-27-2007, 08:51 AM fff**** man im going to admit im new to UFC and im startin to like. quintons fight with shogun was ugly man. was that fight before or after shogun broke his arm? Could Quinton beat him now? Quinton can;t beat any of these guys, he's been beaten unconscious so many times I am surprised he's still not a shot fighter or maybe he's a shot fighter sho knocks out Liddell in the first minute of their bout. I always liked Pride way better and I thought the fighters were better. I know people will bring up Cro-Cop. I never liked his style but at least he didn't get knocked out by somebody who's been tkoed brutally more than 5 times. Henderson and Shogun are the ****, my favourites there are Fedor and Wanderlei. nfc90210 05-27-2007, 09:45 AM Henderson hasn't even fought in the UFC yet. Henderson has fought in the UFC. He won the middleweight tournament at UFC 17. For those who remember, UFC 17 is the event where Pete Williams did this... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/PeteWilliamsKick.jpg It is also the event where Chuck Liddell made his MMA debut. V-Money 05-27-2007, 11:07 AM I wanted a longer fight but I'm so ****ing happy for Rampage. Fighting Cougar 05-27-2007, 12:05 PM <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2032013670">Liddell Jackson II</a><br><embed src="http://lads.myspace.com/videos/vplayer*****" flashvars="m=2032013670&type=video" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="430" height="346"></embed><br><a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.addToProfileConfirm&videoid=2032013670&title=Liddell Jackson II">Add to My Profile</a> | <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.home"> More Videos</a> Sweet Pea 50 05-27-2007, 01:36 PM What was tripping me out about the whole thing was they kept on calling Rampage the underdog. WTF? He MURDERED Chuck in there first fight. But its wahtever. Dana and Joe are probably huddled with each other, saying "What do we do now?" HAHAHA. Liddell is NEVER going to get that belt back with Page and Dan Henderson in the mix. The whole card itself was pretty damn good. That Jairdin KO... Houston lifted that dude off his feet with that uppercut. I ordered the UFC 71 for $44.95. I came out $150 ahead. So thank you Joe Rogan, for hyping up all the Liddell fanboys. Liaison 05-27-2007, 01:44 PM Chuck would beat Hendo, I’d put my flat down on that one. And Chuck was rightfully favourite; he steam rolled through all his latest opponents while Rampage got brutalized by Shogun and Wandy, arguably lost to Woogie Lindland and fought **** against Starvin Marvin Eastman. Sweet Pea 50 05-27-2007, 02:28 PM Maybe you didn't my whole post. Or maybe you did. Page wasn't fighting Wandy last night. He DESTROYED Liddell in their first meeting. I looked at the fight objectivley. Better striker= Rampage. Better throws= Rampage. Liddell's big calling card was his striking ability. In their first encounter, who won that? Liddell gets in close with Rampage, he would have gotten slammed HARD. Liddell beating Henderson? WOW. This is one of the reasons why I won money last night. Rampage can be beat. He already has. But Rampage being a 3-1 underdog aganst Liddell? HAAAHAHAHAHA. On way to the bank on Liddell... Thank you. Valgas 05-27-2007, 02:57 PM Rampage's fight against shogun (i just saw it) was pure rape. Shogun seemed eons ahead of him. He was more agressive. Would a rematch make sense? Would the outcome be the same? (MMA owns btw). Liaison 05-27-2007, 03:05 PM Maybe you didn't my whole post. Or maybe you did. Page wasn't fighting Wandy last night. He DESTROYED Liddell in their first meeting. I looked at the fight objectivley. Better striker= Rampage. Better throws= Rampage. Liddell's big calling card was his striking ability. In their first encounter, who won that? Liddell gets in close with Rampage, he would have gotten slammed HARD. Liddell beating Henderson? WOW. This is one of the reasons why I won money last night. Rampage can be beat. He already has. But Rampage being a 3-1 underdog aganst Liddell? HAAAHAHAHAHA. On way to the bank on Liddell... Thank you.The first fight was irrelevant, Rampage had yet to be knocked out and was brimming with confidence, post Wandy rampage was timid and self admittedly, feared getting the **** out, the moment he’d get hurt, fight over. Chuck was on a roll knocking guys out left right and centre, clearly made him favourite, go figure. Your train of though also says that objectively, Tito and Couture should have beaten Chuck (4-1) and Grace/Shamrock II should have been another Gracie riot. Liaison 05-27-2007, 03:08 PM And I had Rampage favourite to, but purely down to Liddell’s celebrity lifestyle. pesticid 05-27-2007, 03:13 PM The thing is Liddell hasn't really fought any big pucnhers except for Quinton. And Quinton can wrestle too. Wanderlei, Henderson, Rua and Page are all big punchers. So yeah he beat Tito and Couture but neighter one has better stand-up and punching power than the aforementioned fighters. At least I don't believe so. In other words, these four guys can fight Chuck's fight even in the Octagon while Couture and Tito are well-suited stylistically to fight Chuck. badnewsbrown 05-27-2007, 03:17 PM liddell is over-rated, i never thought he was anythin special. he was scared from the start. mic573 05-27-2007, 03:39 PM I ordered the UFC 71 for $44.95. Was that in HD or what? It was $39.99 on Time Warner. Sweet Pea 50 05-27-2007, 03:53 PM All I'm trying to get across was that, how in the **** was Rampage a 3-1 underdog? What the hell? Was it Liddells rematch clause were he avenge's his loss? Every time? I don't know. Rampage smashed him in the first fight. It wasn't that hard for me to bet that Page was going to beat Liddell a second time. "It was a fluke"... Better skill set. Stronger. Striking skills.. it just addded up to me to the tune of well, some money. Sweet Pea 50 05-27-2007, 04:01 PM Yes mic573, it was in HD. Does it beat regular T.V.? YES. You'll never go back if you have a H.D. set. And I have a low end one. You could see snot bubbles out of Jardain's snotbox when he caught that uppercut. GODAMN..... redman1 05-27-2007, 08:39 PM Houston Alexander was extremely impressive!Jardine is a warrior and he got DESTROYED.That might have been some of the most DEVASTATING punches I've ever seen in the UFC. I hope all the top fighters were watching,because I think this guy is coming to kick some serious ass. Mozza 05-27-2007, 09:33 PM I thought that overall the show was enteraining. It was free on a 24 hour delay over here in the UK but I would have bought it if it was on PPV and would not have felt short changed. In Rampage Jackson, they have a man who has the charisma to enchance the popularity of the UFC and I think that internally Dana White and co will be pleased with the outcome of the main event. Palma 05-27-2007, 11:34 PM Dan Henderson!! That guy is going to clean the house! Rampage is going to have a difficult fight with him. You heard here first! - Henderson will unify the belts. Palma 05-27-2007, 11:36 PM Houston Alexander was extremely impressive!Jardine is a warrior and he got DESTROYED.That might have been some of the most DEVASTATING punches I've ever seen in the UFC. I hope all the top fighters were watching,because I think this guy is coming to kick some serious ass. I am not very impressed with Jardine and his stand-up skills. It was bound to happen that his unorthodox stand up style would loose aginst someone with above average boxing skills. redman1 05-28-2007, 12:35 AM I do agree with you.Jardines stand up skills were tested and failed,but it was the raw power I saw from alexander that impressed me so much.It's not everyday you see one guy lift another with his punches. That was some old school George Foreman **** right there,and I loved it. MOREBASS 05-28-2007, 01:10 PM Now, who paid to watch this fight? Freaking idiots!!! Shut your broke ass up ! I paid for a plane ticket, a 4 night stay @ The MGM, and fight tickets, and felt like I got more bang for my buck out of this than I did for paying $54.99 for that garbage ass Oscar - Mayweather fight ! |