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Hourglass 05-25-2007, 01:07 PM Im trying to put on a little weight. Im 162 right now at 5 9" with very little body fat. Not looking to be much bigger, but just a little. Anyway, i've been using weights twice a week lately to make more room for boxing. Idealy I would like to work out 4 times a week so I can do each body group twice. i have no issues with running before I lift or even after, I never felt like it effected me that much. Boxing worries me, being that it is such a full body work out in itself. I know if I box before I lift, I wont be able to lift that well...
so just wondering, is boxing AFTER I lift going to render my weight training useless? I have always thought that it would be too much for the body to keep up with, trying to rebuild the muscles that you worked with weights and now all the muscles that you worked with boxing at the same time. Am I wrong? Again, im not looking to put on much weight really, just dont want to render my whole weight training routine useless because im hitting the heavy bag/shadow boxing afterwards.
thanks
Domain 05-25-2007, 01:59 PM first off why your name HOURGLASS? you got an hour glass figure or something?
i wouldnt do that man...if you lifting body building style to failure you can injure yourself boxing...bodybuilding style weight training is not good for boxing.
you should do circuits and not lift to failure.
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 02:07 PM ricky hatton does bodybuilding style training and i think it works for him. i say you test out different methods and see how you feel. only you know your body. boxing after you lift wont render ur lifting useles, but u wont be able to perform as well cuz u'll be mad drained, and vice versa. r u fightin competitively? if u r y do u wanna gain weight? if not, then lifting and boxing makes for a great workout u'll be big, strong, fast, and agile. good luck!
danny stash 05-25-2007, 02:12 PM I Do It 3-4 Times A Week And I Attribute My Power To Years Of Weight Training, Just Dont Go That Heavy.
Domain 05-25-2007, 02:13 PM ricky hatton does bodybuilding style training and i think it works for him. i say you test out different methods and see how you feel. only you know your body. boxing after you lift wont render ur lifting useles, but u wont be able to perform as well cuz u'll be mad drained, and vice versa. r u fightin competitively? if u r y do u wanna gain weight? if not, then lifting and boxing makes for a great workout u'll be big, strong, fast, and agile. good luck!
I doubt hatton lifts to failure though...if he did he wouldnt be able to train or sparr because after doing bicep curls to failure your arms are so sore the next day if you o ver extend it you can actually tear it it takes a good 4 days to heal before you could go full out on punching...trust me i might be skinny but i used to do that **** and i was sore.
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 02:20 PM oh yea word i didnt see he was talkin bout trainin to failure yea u should def never train to failure if ur boxin imo.
danny stash 05-25-2007, 02:21 PM I doubt hatton lifts to failure though...if he did he wouldnt be able to train or sparr because after doing bicep curls to failure your arms are so sore the next day if you o ver extend it you can actually tear it it takes a good 4 days to heal before you could go full out on punching...trust me i might be skinny but i used to do that **** and i was sore.
Hate to tell you but your wrong here Domain. The lactic acid build-up that you are referring to disapates after a few weeks of doing the bicep curls. I hit my biceps and triceps once a week and never have any issues throwing punches and i train to failure most workouts for years now.
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 02:24 PM do u train bodybuilding style for fighting? dont u find that ur alot tighter and **** liftin like that. i sometimes lift like once every 10 days or so like clean and press, squat, deadlift, dumbell swings, one arm snatch - the swing and snatch i do for 3 sets of 25 and the others i do for 3 sets of 3, cuz i aint tryin to put on unnecesary mass.
the330ballers 05-25-2007, 02:27 PM well how about lifting after you box and doing light weights lots of reps
danny stash 05-25-2007, 02:39 PM do u train bodybuilding style for fighting? dont u find that ur alot tighter and **** liftin like that. i sometimes lift like once every 10 days or so like clean and press, squat, deadlift, dumbell swings, one arm snatch - the swing and snatch i do for 3 sets of 25 and the others i do for 3 sets of 3, cuz i aint tryin to put on unnecesary mass.
if you lifted light a few days a week you would strengthen the muscles without the adverse effects of soreness. After a couple weeks of consistent use in the weight room the muscles get used to strain and you will get stronger. As long as you lift lightish, you wont pack on unecessary muscle.
danny stash 05-25-2007, 02:40 PM if you lifted light a few days a week you would strengthen the muscles without the adverse effects of soreness. After a couple weeks of consistent use in the weight room the muscles get used to strain and you will get stronger. As long as you lift lightish, you wont pack on unecessary muscle.
Also i dont want to give off the wrong impression i mix bodybuilding exercises (bench, curls, presses etc..) and boxing style (explosive
Domain 05-25-2007, 02:53 PM Hate to tell you but your wrong here Domain. The lactic acid build-up that you are referring to disapates after a few weeks of doing the bicep curls. I hit my biceps and triceps once a week and never have any issues throwing punches and i train to failure most workouts for years now.
well why dont you tell [eople how you recover so fast...steroids or creatine,glutamine which is it bro and dont pretend you dont...
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 03:02 PM he's on the juice cuz he can train to failure and still box? whats your logic behind that?
Domain 05-25-2007, 03:10 PM he's on the juice cuz he can train to failure and still box? whats your logic behind that?
fast recovery if he is really going to failure..he doesnt need to brag because by him saying that ya he is trying to act macho...its better safe then sorry.
never allow a guy to spar after heavy failure.
tis dangerous you can tear a muscle and over train so your muscles wont grow...eeryone knows you have to take 25-50 grams of whey protien right after intense lifting so your body can suck up the food for the muscles and you need to eat lik 30 gs of fast carbs right after workout.
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 05:40 PM jus cuz hes got fast recovery dont mean hes on roids. fighters have a high work capacity so u can workout hard and recover fast. i work out hard and i recover mad quick and i aint ever had juice in my life. dont make sense to say he must be on juice cuz u recover fast. where do u fight out of by the way domain??
Domain 05-25-2007, 06:02 PM jus cuz hes got fast recovery dont mean hes on roids. fighters have a high work capacity so u can workout hard and recover fast. i work out hard and i recover mad quick and i aint ever had juice in my life. dont make sense to say he must be on juice cuz u recover fast. where do u fight out of by the way domain??
eastcoast all day baby why you wanna challenge a dude?
danny stash 05-25-2007, 06:03 PM fast recovery if he is really going to failure..he doesnt need to brag because by him saying that ya he is trying to act macho...its better safe then sorry.
never allow a guy to spar after heavy failure.
tis dangerous you can tear a muscle and over train so your muscles wont grow...eeryone knows you have to take 25-50 grams of whey protien right after intense lifting so your body can suck up the food for the muscles and you need to eat lik 30 gs of fast carbs right after workout.
I am not on juice but i do take glutamine, omega 3 fish oil and a mens one day daily and 150 grams of protein a day. To insinuate that someone is juicing because i can recover fast after years of weight training and study is an insult.
PunchDrunk 05-25-2007, 06:04 PM Training to failure is dumb, whether it's for bodybuilding, strength or sports.
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 06:08 PM eastcoast all day baby why you wanna challenge a dude?
eastcoast doesnt mean **** to me. what city and what gym? i aint challengin you champ settle down jus wanna know where u train thats all. u talk about the hood and bein gangsta and **** so i wanna know wut city u in thats all man.
Domain 05-25-2007, 08:23 PM eastcoast doesnt mean **** to me. what city and what gym? i aint challengin you champ settle down jus wanna know where u train thats all. u talk about the hood and bein gangsta and **** so i wanna know wut city u in thats all man.
self taught
SpeedKillz 05-25-2007, 08:25 PM self taught
self taught?? no trainer? that makes sense. anyway, u didnt answer my question, wut hood u from? eastcoast aint a city, where u at domain?
BrooklynBomber 05-25-2007, 08:25 PM My trainer always said that if I am to weight train, its only after a practice and that I should do stretching and relaxation exercises after every set.
If your going to lift weight's do it after boxing. or on a different day so you'll get more out of your workouts. If u do it before boxing theirs a good chance it'l hinder your boxing performance
PunchDrunk 05-26-2007, 06:26 AM Do it on a different day, or if you train twice a day, in a separate workout.
Trick 05-26-2007, 08:21 AM Personally, I weight train an hour, maybe two after my boxing, I never do it before.
And as PunchDrunk said, training to failure is not a good choice, although I don't think you (Danny) actually mean FAILURE. And Domain, 'juicing' would not include taking glutamine... you're body makes glutamine itself all the time... If protein powder is part of 'juicing' than I'm a roid head too... And no you don't need 25g of Whey Protein after a workout or some ****. Honesly, I usually have some after I train, but it's certainly not need, depeding on your diet and million other things.
PunchDrunk 05-26-2007, 08:50 AM Personally, I weight train an hour, maybe two after my boxing, I never do it before.
And as PunchDrunk said, training to failure is not a good choice, although I don't think you (Danny) actually mean FAILURE. And Domain, 'juicing' would not include taking glutamine... you're body makes glutamine itself all the time... If protein powder is part of 'juicing' than I'm a roid head too... And no you don't need 25g of Whey Protein after a workout or some ****. Honesly, I usually have some after I train, but it's certainly not need, depeding on your diet and million other things.
I agree with your basic sentiment regarding glutamine and protein powder. But the "your body makes glutamine itself" argument just doesn't hold water. The body makes testosterone as well, yet that is certainly juicing!
Again, I agree with you, but using faulty logic isn't helping your case. :)
Trick 05-26-2007, 09:06 AM I agree with your basic sentiment regarding glutamine and protein powder. But the "your body makes glutamine itself" argument just doesn't hold water. The body makes testosterone as well, yet that is certainly juicing!
Again, I agree with you, but using faulty logic isn't helping your case. :)
Hmm, you know what, very good point. Well that's an embarrasing fault. Haha, gah, it's Saturday, I get the day off from playing cell biologist...
danny stash 05-26-2007, 09:45 AM Personally, I weight train an hour, maybe two after my boxing, I never do it before.
And as PunchDrunk said, training to failure is not a good choice, although I don't think you (Danny) actually mean FAILURE. And Domain, 'juicing' would not include taking glutamine... you're body makes glutamine itself all the time... If protein powder is part of 'juicing' than I'm a roid head too... And no you don't need 25g of Whey Protein after a workout or some ****. Honesly, I usually have some after I train, but it's certainly not need, depeding on your diet and million other things.
you are correct about failure but i push myself. Its the last couple reps that make the difference. How old are you bud?
batista 05-26-2007, 07:13 PM As long as you lift lightish, you wont pack on unecessary muscle.
That is not true.
Trick 05-29-2007, 03:47 AM you are correct about failure but i push myself. Its the last couple reps that make the difference. How old are you bud?
I'll be 20 in august.
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