funniest thing in Mad Magazine for years:
http://home.earthlink.net/~folkychick/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jesusbush.jpg

funniest thing in Mad Magazine for years:



I voted for JC, but JC would not run for a president, in my opinion

Jesus-1st round KO or bannishment to eternal hellfire. :rolleyes:

A much better comparison of good versus evil would have pitted Jesus against Kerry. The liberal left is closer to the anti-christ view by far. Homosexuality is O.K. and normal, spare the death row criminals who commit murder, kill the unborn babies and save all the animals instead. Talk about pure evil!!!!!

funniest thing in Mad Magazine for years:
http://home.earthlink.net/~folkychick/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jesusbush.jpg


...That very well my be the gayest depiction of Jesus I have ever seen. He looks like a woman with a mustache in that pic.

A much better comparison of good versus evil would have pitted Jesus against Kerry. The liberal left is closer to the anti-christ view by far. Homosexuality is O.K. and normal, spare the death row criminals who commit murder, kill the unborn babies and save all the animals instead. Talk about pure evil!!!!!



Bush is a better man than Kerry, I think, but JC would beat either of them easily.

I would love to know how Bushis a better man than Kerry.

Bush came into office with an agenda to go to war in Iraq, then absolutely lied to the American people about the threat posed by Sadam Hussein.
He willingly sent our young people to die in a war that has proven to be unjust, yet he was too scared to do his own duty when the country called upon him. Regardless of whether or not he deserted even his cushy stateside post, he constantly supported the war in Vietnam while refusing to take part in it.
He claims to be a born again Christian, yet can't follow the most basic tennets of the faith he professes.

As for homosexuality, I have several gay friends. Believe it or not, they are just plain old who live differently than you and I. They're nothing to be afraid of. Kneejerk homophobia is no different in my book than racism. Judge a person by their actions towards others, not some prejudices built into your own head.

Abortion, while I think it is wrong, is a moral decision. I do not think it is something that we need to let the government legislate. If we start letting the government legislate our bodies where will they stop?

The death penalty I believe in. I hate the liberal argument that it's not a deterrant. It's not supposed to be a deterrant, it's supposed to be purely punitive.

Save all the animals is a whacko PETA/Green Party thing. If we're going to talk extremists both sides of center, you can't get much more far to the right than your average gun-toting, tobacco spitting white supremacist.

The country is now in a shambles, with Bush and his cronies still trying to convince us that sending high-paying jobs overseas is good for America. The only people that benefits are the rich company owners, and they certainly aren't passing on the savings in labor costs by reducing the prices of their products.
Bush even had fast food work reclassified as a Manufacturing job in order to make it look like we were picking up more manufacturing jobs.
No president has ever given a tax cut during a war. It doesn't make economic sense to do so. The expenditures of the country increase dramatically during a war, therefore you cannot afford to cut your income.
It's the equivalent of buying a million dollar home, then quitting your job and starting a new job at Burger King.

I don't think Kerry will be a great president, but he will do far less damage to the country over the next 4 years than Bush will. After 4 years, we will be able to get in some people more to our liking.

As far as being a better man, compare their work records and their lives without relying on Fox News as your main source. You might be surprised to find that Kerry has actually done some good things with his, while Bush has done nothing but run companies into bankruptcy while personally enriching himself.

So vB....should we put you down as "undecided"? :p

Several of my colleagues that work on the school quality research strongly disagree with Kerry's school reform policy. Some of them, who know Kerry, noted his lack of a real prospective on the issue primarily due to his blue-blood upbringing. My colleagues are Democrats.

I like Bush better because of the way he fought back on terrorism and because of his foreign policy. Maybe I let myself be affected too much by the Beslan tragedy in Russia to think that this is a very important issue.

Regarding other principal points,

1. I am against abortions (Bush gets a "+")

2. I am against capital punishment, because the probability of tragic mistakes is not zero, and not because I care about murderers and terrorists. (Bush gets a "-")

3. I don't have anything against homosexuals, and I support the civil unions and appropriate rights for them. A good colleague of mine is a homosexual, and he is a very decent person. I do dislike the idea of using word marriage to describe the civil union of homosexuals. Maybe I am wrong on this, not sure. (Bush gets "+/-", not sure.)

4. I would vote for Clinton if Clinton were to run against Bush. (Bush +/-?)

5. I respect your point of view. I may well be wrong on many of these issues.


I would love to know how Bushis a better man than Kerry.

Bush came into office with an agenda to go to war in Iraq, then absolutely lied to the American people about the threat posed by Sadam Hussein.
He willingly sent our young people to die in a war that has proven to be unjust, yet he was too scared to do his own duty when the country called upon him. Regardless of whether or not he deserted even his cushy stateside post, he constantly supported the war in Vietnam while refusing to take part in it.
He claims to be a born again Christian, yet can't follow the most basic tennets of the faith he professes.

As for homosexuality, I have several gay friends. Believe it or not, they are just plain old who live differently than you and I. They're nothing to be afraid of. Kneejerk homophobia is no different in my book than racism. Judge a person by their actions towards others, not some prejudices built into your own head.

Abortion, while I think it is wrong, is a moral decision. I do not think it is something that we need to let the government legislate. If we start letting the government legislate our bodies where will they stop?

The death penalty I believe in. I hate the liberal argument that it's not a deterrant. It's not supposed to be a deterrant, it's supposed to be purely punitive.

Save all the animals is a whacko PETA/Green Party thing. If we're going to talk extremists both sides of center, you can't get much more far to the right than your average gun-toting, tobacco spitting white supremacist.

The country is now in a shambles, with Bush and his cronies still trying to convince us that sending high-paying jobs overseas is good for America. The only people that benefits are the rich company owners, and they certainly aren't passing on the savings in labor costs by reducing the prices of their products.
Bush even had fast food work reclassified as a Manufacturing job in order to make it look like we were picking up more manufacturing jobs.
No president has ever given a tax cut during a war. It doesn't make economic sense to do so. The expenditures of the country increase dramatically during a war, therefore you cannot afford to cut your income.
It's the equivalent of buying a million dollar home, then quitting your job and starting a new job at Burger King.

I don't think Kerry will be a great president, but he will do far less damage to the country over the next 4 years than Bush will. After 4 years, we will be able to get in some people more to our liking.

As far as being a better man, compare their work records and their lives without relying on Fox News as your main source. You might be surprised to find that Kerry has actually done some good things with his, while Bush has done nothing but run companies into bankruptcy while personally enriching himself.

I would love to know how Bushis a better man than Kerry.

Bush came into office with an agenda to go to war in Iraq, then absolutely lied to the American people about the threat posed by Sadam Hussein.
He willingly sent our young people to die in a war that has proven to be unjust, yet he was too scared to do his own duty when the country called upon him. Regardless of whether or not he deserted even his cushy stateside post, he constantly supported the war in Vietnam while refusing to take part in it.
He claims to be a born again Christian, yet can't follow the most basic tennets of the faith he professes.

As for homosexuality, I have several gay friends. Believe it or not, they are just plain old who live differently than you and I. They're nothing to be afraid of. Kneejerk homophobia is no different in my book than racism. Judge a person by their actions towards others, not some prejudices built into your own head.

Abortion, while I think it is wrong, is a moral decision. I do not think it is something that we need to let the government legislate. If we start letting the government legislate our bodies where will they stop?

The death penalty I believe in. I hate the liberal argument that it's not a deterrant. It's not supposed to be a deterrant, it's supposed to be purely punitive.

Save all the animals is a whacko PETA/Green Party thing. If we're going to talk extremists both sides of center, you can't get much more far to the right than your average gun-toting, tobacco spitting white supremacist.

The country is now in a shambles, with Bush and his cronies still trying to convince us that sending high-paying jobs overseas is good for America. The only people that benefits are the rich company owners, and they certainly aren't passing on the savings in labor costs by reducing the prices of their products.
Bush even had fast food work reclassified as a Manufacturing job in order to make it look like we were picking up more manufacturing jobs.
No president has ever given a tax cut during a war. It doesn't make economic sense to do so. The expenditures of the country increase dramatically during a war, therefore you cannot afford to cut your income.
It's the equivalent of buying a million dollar home, then quitting your job and starting a new job at Burger King.

I don't think Kerry will be a great president, but he will do far less damage to the country over the next 4 years than Bush will. After 4 years, we will be able to get in some people more to our liking.

As far as being a better man, compare their work records and their lives without relying on Fox News as your main source. You might be surprised to find that Kerry has actually done some good things with his, while Bush has done nothing but run companies into bankruptcy while personally enriching himself.



...working in the restaurant business for a good part of my life I have been around and had as my friends more than a few homosexuals. My best neighbors are gay. I still think it's an abnormality and it's not a choice. It was in every psychology manual as a mental illness unitl political correctness had it removed as such about 20 years ago. My problem with the gay movement is when it is force fed on eveyone to further their agenda and thrown in our childrens faces and made to seem normal. It's not normal and anyone who thinks it is should have their head examined.


...country in shambles??? I don't know where you live but in Florida our crime rate is down, the housing industry is booming, rates are the lowest they have ever been, and there is virtually no unemployment. Maybe you live in Mexico. The president made the same assumptions as every top democrat when it came to Saddam having WMD's and being a serious threat. There is interview after interview with Edwards(most notably on crossfire) saying that saddam was the biggest threat in the world period. He stated that we must disarm him by force if we need to. Bush didn't create the idea of Iraq having WMD's and Saddam being a threat. Maybe if you read some quotes form your own party you would realize that they held 100% the same view as Bush when it came to the intel that they saw and what they believed.


...When you got your tax relief check did you spend it???? If you did then quit *****in. Unless you ran to the hood and gave it to some underpriveldged kids than your arguement is silly. It's not my fault you lost your blue collar, overpaid, non-college education required job.



......whats your take on the Dem scare tactic of saying Bush will start a draft? Or how about them suggestion a pre-emptive strike to say that there is disenfranchisement befoe there is any proof of it. The dems are ready and waiting to pull the race card and make up a bunch of **** before the elections even starts. Stupid people try to say that the Rupublicans stold the last election and that monorities were disinfranchised at the polls. There is no proof that it happened. On the other hand their is plenty of proof that the dems had a large number of the overseas military ballots thrown out(our military always leans republican, gee wonder why that is). It's also a fact that two major networks were calling Florida for Gore before the polls even closed on the panhandle(one hour difference than the rest of the state). The panhandle is about 70% Republican and alot of those people didn't go to the polls because they heard the race was already over in Florida. Just a few facts that the liberal press didn't clue in the country on.

You need to get your facts straight about who called the election. The first person to call the election was Shrub's cousin on Faux News Channel.

As for party affiliation, I have none. I think the dems want to give the country away and the repugnicans see things as too black and white with no room for gray. I don't vote party line, I vote my conscience as things are put before us.

The housing industry is booming in Florida? Gee. 4 hurricanes. I wonder why.
Unemploymet in this country is at 5.4%. The thing about that is, though, the way they compile the data is by counting the number of people drawing unemployment checks. They don't take into account the number of people who were either denied benefits or whose benefits have run out.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Also, the reason unemployment isn't as bad as it should be is that Bush has created more government jobs. Doesn't that go against Repugnican principles?

Unemployment in Florida was 4.4% in July, the most recent I could find. That's 1% below the national average, but far from "virtually no unemployment".

The Congress made it's decision based upon the evidence presented to them by the Executive branch, who said they would exhaust all diplomatic means before using force, which was yet another lie.

I don't have a blue collar, non-college education required job. I would wager that I make far more money than you, in fact, and that I attended college in a school you couldn't dream of getting accepted to. I probably give more to charity than you make in a year.

There's no proof that the election was stolen???? How far up your ass do you have your head? The same crap that was done in 2000 was tried again this year. Ms. Hood attempted to purge 22,000 black (predominantly Dem voting) people from the polls this year, and only 61 Hispanics (predominantly Rep voting) for felony convictions.
Gerald Ford, a republican ex-president, and Jimmy Carter, a Dem ex president, charied a committee to look into Florida's voting procedures. This bipartisan panel compared the shenanigans in Florida to those of a third world country.

Now to the "gay" issue. If you don't think it's a "choice", how can you call it immoral? As for psych manuals calling it a mental illness, they used to say that about autism, too. While autism isn't normal, it's not a mental illness.
Believe it or not, there is no huge gay movement in our nation to recruit children. All the gay movement really wants is to be accepted as human beings. I don't think that's such a bad thing.
On the other hand, I don't think that they help themselves when focussing parades on the cross-dressed and leather wearing segments of their community.

The draft thing I think it's absolutely hilarious. That Bush had do defend himself regarding "rumors on the uuhhh... Internets" is definitely payback for the smear campaign he started against McCain in South Carolina.

Both parties do push polls, both parties selectively register people to vote by disguising themselves as pollsters, then offering voter registration cards to people who claim they will vote for their candidate.
Both parties tend to selectively tell "the truth" about their opponents, often taking things out of context.

Only the Republicans are involved with a company accused of tearing up registration cards for people who registired as Democrats. If it had happened in 1 state, I would see the possibility of a smear campaign, but happening in 2 states simultaneously, with the same company, makes me wonder what's really going on.
http://www.alternet.org/election04/20190/
(yes, a liberal website, but the article contains links to the local news stories surrounding the invetigations. News stories in the local papers and television station websites).

Only Bush has direct ties to people launching smear campaigns against his opponent. Yes, I'm speaking of the Swift Boat Veterans for Propoganda. Every single person in the ads has been debunked in one form or another.
One is actually on video endorsing Kerry and calling him a great leader during Kerry's last Senatorial race.
Another accepted a Bronze Star for the same mission in which he says Kerry didn't deserve his, claiming that the after action report was penned by Kerry. If he knew this report to be false, should he have accepted that medal? Why didn't he speak up then?
The leader of that Cabal was hired by Richard "The Paragon of Truth" Nixon in the 70's to go after Kerry because of his testimony before Congress and has been on the republican payroll in one form or another ever since.

All of that can be passed off as partisan rhetoric on both sides and you can cherrypick what truths you want from it, but there are facts that cannot be refuted:

Bush is the first president to post a net loss of jobs in this country since Herbert Hoover, who led us into The Great Depression.
Bush lied to the country in saying that there were WMDs in Iraq, as well as ties to Al Quaeda. The fact is, one of his first actions as president, prior to 9/11, was to ask for the war plans for Iraq to be updated.
Bush has taken more vacation than any president in history. More than 40% of his reign has been spent either in Crawford, Kennebunkport or Camp David. It seems to me that if the threat to this country were so emminent, he'd want to be at home in the White House, doing what he's being paid to do, rather than golfing, fishing and driving around his pickup truck, trying to look like the common man.
Bush, by executive order, had the overtime rules rewritten to where more than 75% of all labor that would have been overtime no longer is. Whle companies do no have to follow the new guidelines, they now have the option to reclassify your job as "management" so you don't qualify at all, they have the option of not paying you overtime wages if you "occasionally" work over 40 hours per week.
Bush has created the largest budget and trade defecits in the history of our nation.
Bush's tax cut went primarily to the richest people in this country, not the middle class. The theory behind it, which he won't explain because it's failed every time it's been tried (under both Lincoln AND Reagan) is that if you put the money in the hands of the wealthiest Americans, they are more likely to invest it. The problem is, with the US economy in the toilet and the European and Asian market doing well, where do you think these people put the money?
The best way to stimulate the economy is by putting money in the hands of the middle class, because they are more likely to spend it than save it, creating demand for products, thus increases in manufacturing and employment.
Bush stalled the vote for the Homeland Security Department when he first took office by saying he would veto it. Since the idea originated from a Clinton appointed bipartisan congressional panel, it must have been a bad idea. Now he lords it, as if he invented the damned idea. Flip-flop much?

Again, in an ideal world, I wouldn't vote Kerry, because I don't think he'll be a great president. I think he's a better man, a better human being and the lesser of 2 evils.

You need to get your facts straight about who called the election. The first person to call the election was Shrub's cousin on Faux News Channel.

As for party affiliation, I have none. I think the dems want to give the country away and the repugnicans see things as too black and white with no room for gray. I don't vote party line, I vote my conscience as things are put before us.

The housing industry is booming in Florida? Gee. 4 hurricanes. I wonder why.
Unemploymet in this country is at 5.4%. The thing about that is, though, the way they compile the data is by counting the number of people drawing unemployment checks. They don't take into account the number of people who were either denied benefits or whose benefits have run out.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Also, the reason unemployment isn't as bad as it should be is that Bush has created more government jobs. Doesn't that go against Repugnican principles?

Unemployment in Florida was 4.4% in July, the most recent I could find. That's 1% below the national average, but far from "virtually no unemployment".

The Congress made it's decision based upon the evidence presented to them by the Executive branch, who said they would exhaust all diplomatic means before using force, which was yet another lie.

I don't have a blue collar, non-college education required job. I would wager that I make far more money than you, in fact, and that I attended college in a school you couldn't dream of getting accepted to. I probably give more to charity than you make in a year.

There's no proof that the election was stolen???? How far up your ass do you have your head? The same crap that was done in 2000 was tried again this year. Ms. Hood attempted to purge 22,000 black (predominantly Dem voting) people from the polls this year, and only 61 Hispanics (predominantly Rep voting) for felony convictions.
Gerald Ford, a republican ex-president, and Jimmy Carter, a Dem ex president, charied a committee to look into Florida's voting procedures. This bipartisan panel compared the shenanigans in Florida to those of a third world country.

Now to the "gay" issue. If you don't think it's a "choice", how can you call it immoral? As for psych manuals calling it a mental illness, they used to say that about autism, too. While autism isn't normal, it's not a mental illness.
Believe it or not, there is no huge gay movement in our nation to recruit children. All the gay movement really wants is to be accepted as human beings. I don't think that's such a bad thing.
On the other hand, I don't think that they help themselves when focussing parades on the cross-dressed and leather wearing segments of their community.

The draft thing I think it's absolutely hilarious. That Bush had do defend himself regarding "rumors on the uuhhh... Internets" is definitely payback for the smear campaign he started against McCain in South Carolina.

Both parties do push polls, both parties selectively register people to vote by disguising themselves as pollsters, then offering voter registration cards to people who claim they will vote for their candidate.
Both parties tend to selectively tell "the truth" about their opponents, often taking things out of context.

Only the Republicans are involved with a company accused of tearing up registration cards for people who registired as Democrats. If it had happened in 1 state, I would see the possibility of a smear campaign, but happening in 2 states simultaneously, with the same company, makes me wonder what's really going on.
http://www.alternet.org/election04/20190/
(yes, a liberal website, but the article contains links to the local news stories surrounding the invetigations. News stories in the local papers and television station websites).

Only Bush has direct ties to people launching smear campaigns against his opponent. Yes, I'm speaking of the Swift Boat Veterans for Propoganda. Every single person in the ads has been debunked in one form or another.
One is actually on video endorsing Kerry and calling him a great leader during Kerry's last Senatorial race.
Another accepted a Bronze Star for the same mission in which he says Kerry didn't deserve his, claiming that the after action report was penned by Kerry. If he knew this report to be false, should he have accepted that medal? Why didn't he speak up then?
The leader of that Cabal was hired by Richard "The Paragon of Truth" Nixon in the 70's to go after Kerry because of his testimony before Congress and has been on the republican payroll in one form or another ever since.

All of that can be passed off as partisan rhetoric on both sides and you can cherrypick what truths you want from it, but there are facts that cannot be refuted:

Bush is the first president to post a net loss of jobs in this country since Herbert Hoover, who led us into The Great Depression.
Bush lied to the country in saying that there were WMDs in Iraq, as well as ties to Al Quaeda. The fact is, one of his first actions as president, prior to 9/11, was to ask for the war plans for Iraq to be updated.
Bush has taken more vacation than any president in history. More than 40% of his reign has been spent either in Crawford, Kennebunkport or Camp David. It seems to me that if the threat to this country were so emminent, he'd want to be at home in the White House, doing what he's being paid to do, rather than golfing, fishing and driving around his pickup truck, trying to look like the common man.
Bush, by executive order, had the overtime rules rewritten to where more than 75% of all labor that would have been overtime no longer is. Whle companies do no have to follow the new guidelines, they now have the option to reclassify your job as "management" so you don't qualify at all, they have the option of not paying you overtime wages if you "occasionally" work over 40 hours per week.
Bush has created the largest budget and trade defecits in the history of our nation.
Bush's tax cut went primarily to the richest people in this country, not the middle class. The theory behind it, which he won't explain because it's failed every time it's been tried (under both Lincoln AND Reagan) is that if you put the money in the hands of the wealthiest Americans, they are more likely to invest it. The problem is, with the US economy in the toilet and the European and Asian market doing well, where do you think these people put the money?
The best way to stimulate the economy is by putting money in the hands of the middle class, because they are more likely to spend it than save it, creating demand for products, thus increases in manufacturing and employment.
Bush stalled the vote for the Homeland Security Department when he first took office by saying he would veto it. Since the idea originated from a Clinton appointed bipartisan congressional panel, it must have been a bad idea. Now he lords it, as if he invented the damned idea. Flip-flop much?

Again, in an ideal world, I wouldn't vote Kerry, because I don't think he'll be a great president. I think he's a better man, a better human being and the lesser of 2 evils.


...Dude, by the length of your post I see that you obviously aren't a football fan and must be lacking for a life to be thinking and typing so much on a Sunday. Spend some time with your family, take a deep breath, and step away from the bong. It's funny your pic looks exactly like those redneck gun toting individulas you were *****ing about. Also, if you make more money than me I will kiss your inbreed looking ass. Where exactly did you go to school at? A Harvard man? lol lol lol Trade schools don't count skippy!!!

I have an engineering degree from the University of Chicago. And I'm really not much of a football fan.

Dude, by the brevity of your post, I can see that you obviously can't come up with a logical or factual retort. I would even hazard a guess that you never attended college, given your inability to cary on an adult debate. It's always the last refuge of the intellectually inferior to resort to name-calling and personal attacks.

Your blind devotion to following what Faux News Channel says, and your inability to put together a cogent argument would make it more likely that you were more closely alligned with the rednecks, who by and large, support your "man".

Of course, if more people spent more time thinking, he would never have been elected in the first place and we wouldn't be having this discussion...

vb martin since when does a living fetus inside someones body count as being their own body?

i would think its another human being who is underdeveloped

i believe your justification for abortion is wrong

that's the thing about belief systems. they vary from person to person.

when you try to impose your morals on another person, you're a very short step from being like the radical islamics who make up the terrorist movement we're trying to defeat.

If there is indeed a God, when my time comes to stand before him in judgement, I will have to ask how he can give us free will then expect us to not question every facet of existence, including when life begins. Maybe I'll go to hell, maybe I'll just decompose. Who knows?

There are already too many ****ed up people in this world, i dont think that every egg thats fertilised due to a drunken shag warrents the right to be born.
There are stricter regulations on practically everything in the world, than there are being able to get pregnent and have a child.

Doesn't Bush believe he is Jesus?
:confused:


In that case, assassinate Bush/Jesus and put a pagan in the white house

[QUOTE=vB Martin]I have an engineering degree from the University of Chicago. And I'm really not much of a football fan.

Dude, by the brevity of your post, I can see that you obviously can't come up with a logical or factual retort. I would even hazard a guess that you never attended college, given your inability to cary on an adult debate. It's always the last refuge of the intellectually inferior to resort to name-calling and personal attacks.

Your blind devotion to following what Faux News Channel says, and your inability to put together a cogent argument would make it more likely that you were more closely alligned with the rednecks, who by and large, support your "man".



....An engineer??? Yeah that kind of fits. No social skills, loves numbers, geek with a pencil. I love the fact that you won't admit that your a flaming liberal. I see that quite a bit with your kind. Too much of a coward to even admit that your a lib kiss ass. "I have no party affiliation". lol lol lol I have a neighbor just like you. He is the biggest ***** on the block and a guy that another guy could never count on when the chips are down. Went to a Florida game with him 2 weeks ago. One of his buddies that I never met before got hammered and accidentily walked into a guy that was a total dick and accused him of doing it on purpose. My neighbor kept walking and pretended like he didn't see anything. The guy sucker punched his friend and it was me and the guy I never met rolling around in the street with 4 guys while my neighbor kept walking. You seem like the same type of guy. I graduated from ODU(Old Dominion University) with a BSBA degree and a masters in business. Our claim to fame was our womens basketball team. woo hoo

that's the thing about belief systems. they vary from person to person.

when you try to impose your morals on another person, you're a very short step from being like the radical islamics who make up the terrorist movement we're trying to defeat.

If there is indeed a God, when my time comes to stand before him in judgement, I will have to ask how he can give us free will then expect us to not question every facet of existence, including when life begins. Maybe I'll go to hell, maybe I'll just decompose. Who knows?


....maybe you will just keep getting pounded in the ass by your live in lover.

Of course, if more people spent more time thinking, he would never have been elected in the first place and we wouldn't be having this discussion...



....Oh yeah, the dems are the thinking mans party for sure!!! lol lol lol

....An engineer??? Yeah that kind of fits. No social skills, loves numbers, geek with a pencil. I love the fact that you won't admit that your a flaming liberal. I see that quite a bit with your kind. Too much of a coward to even admit that your a lib kiss ass. "I have no party affiliation". lol lol lol I have a neighbor just like you. He is the biggest ***** on the block and a guy that another guy could never count on when the chips are down. Went to a Florida game with him 2 weeks ago. One of his buddies that I never met before got hammered and accidentily walked into a guy that was a total dick and accused him of doing it on purpose. My neighbor kept walking and pretended like he didn't see anything. The guy sucker punched his friend and it was me and the guy I never met rolling around in the street with 4 guys while my neighbor kept walking. You seem like the same type of guy. I graduated from ODU(Old Dominion University) with a BSBA degree and a masters in business. Our claim to fame was our womens basketball team. woo hoo[/QUOTE]LOL, a nice long pointless story! :D

ODU isn't a bad school, though not as academically challenging as William & Mary.

I have no problems with admitting to anything.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly liberal. I believe in socialized medicine and socialized education. I believe in treating all people equally, regardless of their background.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly conservative. I believe strongly in the death penalty as a punitive resort, not as a deterrant. I believe that there has to be a degree of personal responsibility in everything. I think that, while I have no problem with offering a helping hand, that people are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures, and continuing to give handouts while nothing is done by the individual to better their lot in life, is both fiscally and socially irresponsible.

I also believe that if you adhere to any party line, you are either too stupid or too lazy to think for yourself, therefore you deserve what you get in government.

It's typical again of your lack of factual data to support your arguments, that you would choose to attack the character and even physical abilities of a person you don't know.
I won't waste my time defending my character or physical abilities against you. I will, however, issue you an invitation. If you're ever in Honolulu, please stop by Gussy Lamore's any Saturday night. We have an amateur fight night there. I will gladly introduce you to my chickenhearted lack of physical abilities while my friends, who I somehow managed to make despite my lack of social skills, drink a toast to your health.

Your lack of debating skills would be much admired in the Karl Rove school of ethics.

Of course, if more people spent more time thinking, he would never have been elected in the first place and we wouldn't be having this discussion...



....Oh yeah, the dems are the thinking mans party for sure!!! lol lol lol
Last time I checked, Gore had MORE votes than Bush. The electoral college, however, overruled the voting majority

Oh, and in case the humor of the original post was too subtle for you, it's pointing out the fact that while Bush espouses Christian values, and claims that his faith in God and Jesus help guide him in his presidency, his political ideology is in direct contravention to th values taught by Chritianity.
Much like his cherrypicking of intelligence briefs to bring us to war, he cherrypicks what he wants from his supposed guidebook to life. Of course that's a failing of the vast majority of so-called Christians I've met, so I can't really fault him for that, I guess.

ODU isn't a bad school, though not as academically challenging as William & Mary.

I have no problems with admitting to anything.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly liberal. I believe in socialized medicine and socialized education. I believe in treating all people equally, regardless of their background.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly conservative. I believe strongly in the death penalty as a punitive resort, not as a deterrant. I believe that there has to be a degree of personal responsibility in everything. I think that, while I have no problem with offering a helping hand, that people are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures, and continuing to give handouts while nothing is done by the individual to better their lot in life, is both fiscally and socially irresponsible.

I also believe that if you adhere to any party line, you are either too stupid or too lazy to think for yourself, therefore you deserve what you get in government.

It's typical again of your lack of factual data to support your arguments, that you would choose to attack the character and even physical abilities of a person you don't know.
I won't waste my time defending my character or physical abilities against you. I will, however, issue you an invitation. If you're ever in Honolulu, please stop by Gussy Lamore's any Saturday night. We have an amateur fight night there. I will gladly introduce you to my chickenhearted lack of physical abilities while my friends, who I somehow managed to make despite my lack of social skills, drink a toast to your health.

Your lack of debating skills would be much admired in the Karl Rove school of ethics.



.....alright alright already!!! I do agree with more than a few of your views and we think alike more than I realized. I don't agree with the fanatical religious right and I do think that in some cases abortion is the only choice. I don't think it should be a form of birth control however. I shouldn't have gotten personal and you seem like a pretty nice guy. I just get tired of the bashing of the "president of the United States of America" and the good ol USA in general. Oh, and as to your invitation, I do not frequent Hawaiian gay bars. JK If I am ever lucky enough to get a chance to go to Honolulu it sounds like it would be a fun time. :D

ODU isn't a bad school, though not as academically challenging as William & Mary.

I have no problems with admitting to anything.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly liberal. I believe in socialized medicine and socialized education. I believe in treating all people equally, regardless of their background.
Some of my viewpoints are strongly conservative. I believe strongly in the death penalty as a punitive resort, not as a deterrant. I believe that there has to be a degree of personal responsibility in everything. I think that, while I have no problem with offering a helping hand, that people are ultimately responsible for their own successes and failures, and continuing to give handouts while nothing is done by the individual to better their lot in life, is both fiscally and socially irresponsible.

I also believe that if you adhere to any party line, you are either too stupid or too lazy to think for yourself, therefore you deserve what you get in government.

It's typical again of your lack of factual data to support your arguments, that you would choose to attack the character and even physical abilities of a person you don't know.
I won't waste my time defending my character or physical abilities against you. I will, however, issue you an invitation. If you're ever in Honolulu, please stop by Gussy Lamore's any Saturday night. We have an amateur fight night there. I will gladly introduce you to my chickenhearted lack of physical abilities while my friends, who I somehow managed to make despite my lack of social skills, drink a toast to your health.

Your lack of debating skills would be much admired in the Karl Rove school of ethics.

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Wow...I just read this entire thing and it looks like pdbs got completely owned by vB Martin. Good job vB, I like the way you make your points without making useless attempts at character assassination.

Wow...I just read this entire thing and it looks like pdbs got completely owned by vB Martin. Good job vB, I like the way you make your points without making useless attempts at character assassination.

Agreed.

techn9ne is another clueless retard.

Nautilus, are you even permitted to vote in this country?

Jesus-1st round KO or bannishment to eternal hellfire. :rolleyes:
thats me.....

i didn't bother reading this thread because these types of politics are for people who wish they were in politics. all i wanna know is why my "alcohol" vote didn't show up on that ****tard poll.

what the hell are you thinking about? jc is not a politician unlike bush. compare bush to someone who related to him...

Bush and Rumsfeld would blow Jesus'***** ass to kingdom come.

Doesnt Jesus know that there is only room for one interpretation of the bible, and Bush has it on lockdown? I dont think there is room in this country for the both of them.

Jesus-1st round KO or bannishment to eternal hellfire. :rolleyes:
hahaha good call Boxerdog, I agree :)

Trick question......Bush IS Jesus.