Boxclever
05-15-2007, 04:41 PM
1st fight of the second round is Lewis-Tunney.
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View Full Version : Fantasy Heavyweights. Lennox Lewis-Gene Tunney 2nd round fight. Boxclever 05-15-2007, 04:41 PM 1st fight of the second round is Lewis-Tunney. duffgun 05-15-2007, 04:47 PM 1st fight of the second round is Lewis-Tunney. lewis by ko The Raging Bull 05-15-2007, 04:48 PM Lewis KO.... Boxclever 05-15-2007, 04:59 PM keep the votes coming and i'll post the rest of the second round soon.:) ceboxer15 05-15-2007, 08:55 PM Lewis by late TKO. Boxclever 05-16-2007, 04:01 PM Keep voting.:) titoi 05-16-2007, 04:07 PM Tunney beat Greb and Dempsey. It's boxing school for Lennox. Tunney takes the decision. 2nd II none 05-16-2007, 04:09 PM Tunney by 1st rd ko. Dempsey 1919 05-16-2007, 05:36 PM Tunney never fought a heavyweigth over 202 lbs. Imagine what a big, skilled 6'-5" 240 Lewis would do to Tunney. Tunney would have early success, but Lewis grinds him down and ko's him in the late rounds. Lennox Lewis KO 12 Gene Tunney:fing02: OASIS_LAD 05-16-2007, 05:38 PM Lewis by ko. number6 05-17-2007, 01:13 PM Of the linited coverage ive seen of Tunney he looked like a masterfull boxer who is patient,accurate and defensively good, but size would be a major factor in this fight.Lewis is big, strong, a powerfull puncher and all round a top class skillfull heavyweight.I see Lewis having too much for Tunney. Lewis by ko in 5 or 6. titoi 05-18-2007, 06:16 PM I gotta say, it's pretty funny how so many think Baer - a much less complete fighter than Tunney - would beat a modern giant but somehow Tunney would be overwhelmed by a guy who could barely beat a blown-up light heavy (Holyfield). Who, incidentally, could barely beat a 100 year old (give or take) Foreman. Styles make fights and I think Lennox gets taken to school. I looked up Tunney and the dude only had one loss in something like 80-odd fights, and this is from back when people took boxing seriously. My vote is already cast for Tunney, but I'm changing my prediction to a KO! :boxing: wmute 05-18-2007, 09:23 PM This is a mismatch. Tunney is a great fighter who beat two all time greats: A middleweight and a small (by today's standards) semi-retired (inactive for 3 years) heavyweight. Lewis is a great fighter who cleaned the second deepest HW era of all time. Tunney would be outweighed by 40-50 pounds by fight night. he would give away 5 inches in height and SEVEN in reach. There is no way that Tunney beats Lewis. (The biggest fighter Tunney ever beat weighed 200 pounds or something like that.) titoi 05-19-2007, 09:06 AM This is a mismatch. Tunney is a great fighter who beat two all time greats: A middleweight and a small (by today's standards) semi-retired (inactive for 3 years) heavyweight. Lewis is a great fighter who cleaned the second deepest HW era of all time. Tunney would be outweighed by 40-50 pounds by fight night. he would give away 5 inches in height and SEVEN in reach. There is no way that Tunney beats Lewis. (The biggest fighter Tunney ever beat weighed 200 pounds or something like that.) Well, we agree that it's a mismatch ;^> I know that boxing isn't algebra with associative and commutative laws, but Dempsey did beat a few giants. But so what? Bob Sapp might outweight Tyson by a few hundred pounds. You think that's going to keep him from getting ktfo? I don't. Also, I understand why you say this was the 2nd deepest hw era. But I disagree. It's a well-hyped era, but consider it's best players - they all had a tough time with a blown-up cruiser. It also doesn't make sense to me that it's such a great era. Who goes into boxing these days? Answer: not too many - the opportunities are so much greater elsewhere. Back then, there weren't so many opportunities, so more talent was in the game. They might have been smaller, but a rock solid 185 pound man is not a poodle and if he gets a glove on you, your blown-up 240lb.s isn't necessarily going to help you. wmute 05-19-2007, 01:30 PM Well, we agree that it's a mismatch ;^> I know that boxing isn't algebra with associative and commutative laws, but Dempsey did beat a few giants. But so what? Bob Sapp might outweight Tyson by a few hundred pounds. You think that's going to keep him from getting ktfo? I don't. Also, I understand why you say this was the 2nd deepest hw era. But I disagree. It's a well-hyped era, but consider it's best players - they all had a tough time with a blown-up cruiser. It also doesn't make sense to me that it's such a great era. Who goes into boxing these days? Answer: not too many - the opportunities are so much greater elsewhere. Back then, there weren't so many opportunities, so more talent was in the game. They might have been smaller, but a rock solid 185 pound man is not a poodle and if he gets a glove on you, your blown-up 240lb.s isn't necessarily going to help you. Man you make it sound like Lennox Lewis is a Bob Sapp of Boxing. It is definitely not the case, Lewis was a very skilled fighter. With a great jab, combos to follow and a tactical mind. How are you going to outbox a giant wiht a SEVEN inches reach advantage, who might send you to bed with one right hand? Dempsey beat a few giants? a few. How many did Tunney beat? none. what fantasy fight are we discussing here? Tunney vs Lewis Holyfield gave trouble to the elite of the 90s HWs? so would have Dempsey before his layoff (not a semi-retired fighter) Also, you say "who goes into boxing these days?" the heavyweight of the 90s did not start boxing "these days", they fought in the olympics in the 80s, they probably grew up watching Ali making millions of dollars. Finally you are trying to compare favorably the 20s to the 90s in terms of HW quality. Maybe the 20s had some great Heavyweights, however a good chunk of them never had a title shot because of the color of their skins. Comparing a HW era where one could be champ without defending a single time against a black fighter with the 90s is ridiculous. I am not black, but the fact that the HW belt was held by african americans for almost 70 years with the exception of marciano (and of Ingo for 1 fight) tells me something: an era where they were not competing for the HW title is hard to gouge as one of the deepest HW division. It is very likely that Dempsey would have had his way to the top in any era, but Tunney claim to HW greatness was beating semi-reitired Dempsey who had been fighting 2,3,4 rounds exhibition for years. titoi 05-19-2007, 01:47 PM You make some good points about the era. That said, those guys weren't exactly twinkies and he only lost once in many, many fights, so I gotta think he was tough as well as skilled. I'm also less convinced that Lewis was such a great. He certainly was skilled but probably not in the same league. And I never really thought he was particularly tough both mentally and in terms of having a chin. In any case, looks like he'll go through... Tell me: at least we can agree that milan is gonna kick some liverpudlian butt, right? :biggthump wmute 05-19-2007, 02:43 PM You make some good points about the era. That said, those guys weren't exactly twinkies and he only lost once in many, many fights, so I gotta think he was tough as well as skilled. I'm also less convinced that Lewis was such a great. He certainly was skilled but probably not in the same league. And I never really thought he was particularly tough both mentally and in terms of having a chin. In any case, looks like he'll go through... Tell me: at least we can agree that milan is gonna kick some liverpudlian butt, right? :biggthump oh I completely agree: Tunney was an all time great no doubt... but a lightheavyweight, i see only a few at the weight hanging in with him! As far as Lewis goes, well there is this to be said: he had moments when he definitely showed not to be tough, but he definitely came back strong, didnt he? As far as Milan goes, you are prolly right: they will kick that ass. I hope they dont. Milan corrupted referees in the last year's Serie A and somehow managed not to be penalised by uefa, although their being in champions league was due to the position in the Serie A of the previous years. It was confirmed by investigations that during that year Milan AC bought some help, and they were penalized in Italy, like Juventus and other teams. Somehow they managed to convince UEFA ($$$ I guess) to let them keep their spot. I will be rooting for the team which did not cheat to get where they are. Throw in that the owner of Milan AC is a criminal and former prime minister, who had business with mafia called Berlusconi... and you see why I hope they dont kick no ass. Boxclever 05-20-2007, 04:31 PM 2 days to run on this one. keep voting.:) Boxclever 05-21-2007, 03:07 PM Lewis looks good one day left. TysonHagler 05-21-2007, 03:20 PM Lewis Ko 12th. Boxclever 05-25-2007, 06:09 AM Lewis goes into quarter finals. vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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