View Full Version : Was Thomas Hearns a p4p fighter?


Ishak Pasha
05-02-2007, 10:25 PM
im looking at his record right now in wikipedia but im not sure if that's his real record.

anyone knows if he was p4p?

-Antonio-
05-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Was he ranked in the top 10 you mean?

He was ranked number 1 before. And he was in the top 5 a couple other times I think.

Ishak Pasha
05-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Was he ranked in the top 10 you mean?

He was ranked number 1 before. And he was in the top 5 a couple other times I think.yea. i was reading his record and he started as a welterweight, then to middleweight, supermiddleweight, lightheavyweight, and then cruiserweight (current).

heres his record http://www.boxrec.com/print.php?boxer_id=000303

Phantasm
05-04-2007, 03:49 PM
IMO, I consider him one of the great p4p fighters. It just seems that Leonard and Hagler were just better. But anybody who can go from Welter to Cruiser and win titles at each division along the way, has to be considered a top P4P in my book.

Ishak Pasha
05-04-2007, 07:11 PM
IMO, I consider him one of the great p4p fighters. It just seems that Leonard and Hagler were just better. But anybody who can go from Welter to Cruiser and win titles at each division along the way, has to be considered a top P4P in my book.amen. . . . :D

RAESAAD
05-04-2007, 07:14 PM
im looking at his record right now in wikipedia but im not sure if that's his real record.

anyone knows if he was p4p?

Absolutely......He may have even been #1 at one point not sure.

Ishak Pasha
05-04-2007, 07:21 PM
Absolutely......He may have even been #1 at one point not sure.that's weird. ring magazine doesn't have him on the cruiserweights list.

RAESAAD
05-04-2007, 07:25 PM
that's weird. ring magazine doesn't have him on the cruiserweights list.

I don't believe he ever won a CW belt or anything....In fact I think his first fight at CW was recently since he came back in his 40s.I could be wrong but thats what I think.

RAESAAD
05-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Ok after a little research I see he did have several fights at CW late in his career.....He never won a major world title or anything.....the last world title he held was the WBA LHW title after beating an at the time 30-0 Virgil Hill.......

Ishak Pasha
05-04-2007, 07:34 PM
I don't believe he ever won a CW belt or anything....In fact I think his first fight at CW was recently since he came back in his 40s.I could be wrong but thats what I think.
no wonder he's not appearing in the top cruiserweight lists. he lost the ibo cruiserweight title in 2000.

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GAME
05-06-2007, 01:36 AM
Hearns was definately a p4p great fighter. His destruction of the feared WBA welterweight champ Pipino Cuevas, only fighter to ever KTFO the great Roberto Duran, great boxing display against the defensive specialist Wilfred Benitez. He beat lots of top fighters whether contenders or champs from 47-75. He should have got the decision in the rematch with Ray Leonard droppin him twice. Even though he lost his fights with SRL and hagler the first time he gave one hell of a performance both times nothing to be ashamed nearly winning the fights but came up short.

eazy_mas
05-06-2007, 01:39 AM
ofcourse he is he was one of the smartest punchers in the business and knew how to use his size

Ishak Pasha
05-06-2007, 10:47 AM
Hearns was definately a p4p great fighter. His destruction of the feared WBA welterweight champ Pipino Cuevas, only fighter to ever KTFO the great Roberto Duran, great boxing display against the defensive specialist Wilfred Benitez. He beat lots of top fighters whether contenders or champs from 47-75. He should have got the decision in the rematch with Ray Leonard droppin him twice. Even though he lost his fights with SRL and hagler the first time he gave one hell of a performance both times nothing to be ashamed nearly winning the fights but came up short.would he still KO a prime duran?

when they fought duran was past his primes.

titoi
05-06-2007, 11:07 AM
would he still KO a prime duran?

when they fought duran was past his primes.

Sort of an unfair fight due to size. Prime Duran was a lightweight but I don't think Hearns fought as a pro at lightweight. At lightweight in his prime, Duran destroys Hearns.

But even at welter, I don't think he'd ko a slightly past prime Duran (like against SRL the first time). Up to that point, Duran was essentially impossible to hurt and one of the best ever body punchers. Hearns had a pretty suspect chin and, as Hagler so ably demonstrated, did not have a strong body. I think it would go a lot like the Hagler fight. Duran would wade in, get hit and hurt but press on with a body attack which would lead to an early knock out. SRL couldn't keep prime Duran off of him and neither would Hearns.

Ambski
05-06-2007, 03:14 PM
The Hitman was a legend.

Was never protected and never ducked anyone. Fought the best in the world on their own terms.

Only downside was he fought on for too long.

Was great to see him during the Oscar PBF preshow.

Ishak Pasha
05-06-2007, 05:14 PM
The Hitman was a legend.

Was never protected and never ducked anyone. Fought the best in the world on their own terms.

Only downside was he fought on for too long.

Was great to see him during the Oscar PBF preshow.he was there?? http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/DaDeHustLa/Smileys/icon_eek.gif

GAME
05-06-2007, 08:29 PM
would he still KO a prime duran?

when they fought duran was past his primes.

I wouldn't expect a 2nd round blowout like we saw in 1984 had Duran been in his prime. I think the Carlos Palomino or SRL 1 version of Duran vs. Hearns would have been a great fight. I couldn't really say who would win that fight at welter as i can see either man winning. I don't think the 1984 fight has much correlation to a fight between the two lets say if duran was in his prime. However Hearns still deserves credit for that win because Duran still had lots left in the tank he had the previous year gone 15 rounds with Hagler in 83 and would 5 yrs later after the hearns fight in 1989 defeat Iran Barkley and taking his biggest bombs.

manosdepiedra10
05-07-2007, 07:59 PM
yes he was, he always fought the best fighters out there too.

Terry A
05-08-2007, 04:54 AM
Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns was not only a P4P great champion, he was responsible for so many great memories for a lot of us. When he blasted out the fearsome Pipino Cuevas in 2, his devastating KO of Duran, his epic war with Hagler, the Leonard build up and fight...his baleful staredowns, the way he ALWAYS came into the ring IN SHAPE and ready (and EAGER) for WAR!

Never got in trouble outside of the ring when so many routinely did. Loyal to his fans, his city and his Kronk team mates.

What bad could be said about a guy who gave us so much? He had a wonderful career and his ring credentials are the envy of even the best in boxing.