US citizens - Do you think that the free ownership of firearms should continue to be allowed?

UK/elsewhere - Do you think that gun ownership restrictions should be lifted so that every citizen has a right to own a firearm?

I'm not going to second guess the poll by stating my own beliefs on this prickly subject, not until a bit later anyway, but feel free to add comments with your vote.

It's a very small % of citizens that aquire guns legally that do things like what happened at V.T. Now if they were banned all together than criminals would still get their hands on Guns and the general public would be at their mercy......Also If another country tried to invade the U.S. they would have the biggest,craziest squad of shotgun weilding hicks coming at them it would be insane......we need our guns it's the American way of life.

Cheers for the opinion Raesaad, 1-0 to the 5th or whatever no. ammendment.

I believe it's the 2nd ammendment.

For the most part I agree with Rasead. I believe we have the right to possess firearms, but I think that they should be more strict on selling the guns. If someone has a pretty good resume on his/her criminal record, then I think they should not be allowed to just walk into a Wal-Mart and purchase a gun. They should keep the right to have firearms, but put some limitations on it.

If people had easy access to guns where i live some of my cousins would be dead. Instead they just get beat up and mugged.

So no, im not in favour of guns in the uk.
At the moment its just criminals shooting each other.

Anyone who votes yes.. I guess as long as the victims.. are NOT your Mothers wives sisters brothers children lovers friends fathers ectect.. Its ok right?


And you call yourselves civilised...:(

at the end of the day if they went any gunz on the streets of the usa and u couldnt buy then willy nilly the wouldnt be as many killings as in the uk

it's not a right any more if you put restrictions on it. Who decides what the restrictions are - how are they enforced? Sounds like a nightmarepolicy to put into practice, even though i'm sure there are many people who can own a gun in peace, if thats not a big enough oxymoron.

it's not a right any more if you put restrictions on it. Who decides what the restrictions are - how are they enforced? Sounds like a nightmarepolicy to put into practice, even though i'm sure there are many people who can own a gun in peace, if thats not a big enough oxymoron.
put what the point in wating to own a gun in peace unless u wont 2 used it for a sport ?

Anyone who votes yes.. I guess as long as the victims.. are NOT your Mothers wives sisters brothers children lovers friends fathers ectect.. Its ok right?


And you call yourselves civilised...:(

I think its too late in the US to ban guns.Theres too many guns, and people value their freedoms & vices too much.Itd be like prohibition all over gain

but If I could destroy all the guns in all the world would I? yes in a heartbeat.

I don't own a gun and I don't really care to. But with that said, it is our second amendment and I would fight to keep them. I don't mind people having them. I mind the crazy ****s like Choe having them. I think once you are arrested for a felony and or have been committed to a crazy home or on crazy medicine such as Lithium or any thing like it, you should not be able to legally obtain a gun.

man i hardly think id feel safe if all of a sudden everyone in australia could have a gun. jesus. i know americans wouldnt consider it like that cause that's how they've been brought up.. but **** objectively.. would u rather the downside of gun laws to be ... responsible people cant have a gun... or ... sickos can have a gun and do what they like.

Owning a gun should be a privilege; not a right....

That being said I'm 100% a-okay with a person owning a gun because as far as I'm concerned it becomes a matter of me dictating personal taste upon others... which is something I can not and will not do. People, however, should have much higher restrictiosn upon who can own guns. Too many people can obtain guns who, quite frankly, shouldn't.

Banning guns wont stop crimanls. Yes; if a time machine or some radical measure could happen to remove all semi-automatic weapons and handguns from the population it would be a wonderful thing. That wont happen; so the measure of simply controlling who can purchase gun is something that doesn't cross any boundries and doesn't further cause problems.

The Constitution/Bill of Rights is and was a wonderful thing. It is also outdated and was written by fallible human beings and as the US ages; so does that document.

I don't own a gun and I don't really care to. But with that said, it is our second amendment and I would fight to keep them. I don't mind people having them. I mind the crazy ****s like Choe having them. I think once you are arrested for a felony and or have been committed to a crazy home or on crazy medicine such as Lithium or any thing like it, you should not be able to legally obtain a gun.



....I'm with 7001 on this one. I don't own any but I think it's a right that should never be taken away. It should be harder for an individual to get a gun, but banning them would be insane at this point.

Owning a gun should be a privilege; not a right....

That being said I'm 100% a-okay with a person owning a gun because as far as I'm concerned it becomes a matter of me dictating personal taste upon others... which is something I can not and will not do. People, however, should have much higher restrictiosn upon who can own guns. Too many people can obtain guns who, quite frankly, shouldn't.

Banning guns wont stop crimanls. Yes; if a time machine or some radical measure could happen to remove all semi-automatic weapons and handguns from the population it would be a wonderful thing. That wont happen; so the measure of simply controlling who can purchase gun is something that doesn't cross any boundries and doesn't further cause problems.

The Constitution/Bill of Rights is and was a wonderful thing. It is also outdated and was written by fallible human beings and as the US ages; so does that document.


....Good stuff by Gomez right here as well.

Getting rid of guns will never be the answer. It takes cowards to do what happened at places like VT and Columbine. Armed hooligans taking their unfocused rage out on defenseless people. Folks seem to forget there are tons more good people out in the world than bad. Good people with guns balances out with the intent of bad people with guns. Criminals, sociopaths and closet sociopaths think twice about targeting certain places when they know it's guarded, others are packing, and that they'll eat lead shortly after they make their move. I'll never understand the logic of getting rid of firearms. Firearms don't predate violence on a massive scale. The nature of physical conflict itself is what breeds the thought of tactical innovation i.e. "how can I hurt you before or without you hurting me." It's how the modern gun was born, it's why nuclear weaponry is here to stay.

Heck, the best thing for this planet is for every civilised nation to be armed with nukes for their defense, and every proven, law abiding citizen, mandated to get the physical and psychological training necessary to responsibly carry a firearm. Persistent illegal occupations of sovereign countries (*cough* like what goes on now *cough*) and unchecked murdering would be almost unheard of in such a global climate.

Anyone who votes yes.. I guess as long as the victims.. are NOT your Mothers wives sisters brothers children lovers friends fathers ectect.. Its ok right?


And you call yourselves civilised...:(

if someone i knew or loved was shot my position on free gun ownership would not change. im a firm believer in the fact that violent gun crime is the fault of violent criminals, not the gun itself.

would the amount of shootings carried out by gun-wielding school shooting nerds go down? absolutely. does that mean that the best form of defense against home invasion, or worse, invasion of your country, be banned? absolutely not.

i live in canada where gun laws are very, very strict. we have less murders by guns but many more killings with knives and other weapons. i think gun control is a good idea but the problem is the bad guys always can get guns, even up here because they don't need to worry about the law. in the states, it's too late to take the guns away, then only crooks will have them.

it does piss me off though, that if i were an american i could own a black powder rifle without a permit or anything and in canada because it has a muzzle velocity of greater than 1000 ft per second it's illegal without all kinds of legal paperwork and bullshit. no one is going to hold up a liquor store with a black powder rifle. i am an outdoorsman, and i'd like to have it with me in case i'm jumped by a bear or something, not to kill people

I don't own a gun and I don't really care to. But with that said, it is our second amendment and I would fight to keep them. I don't mind people having them. I mind the crazy ****s like Choe having them. I think once you are arrested for a felony and or have been committed to a crazy home or on crazy medicine such as Lithium or any thing like it, you should not be able to legally obtain a gun.

To buy a handgun (at least in CA.) you must wait 30 days from the date of purchase for the background check to go through. If you were committed to a ward or ever convicted of a felony they give you your money back and no gun for you. The thing is that the majority of people commiting violent crimes with guns are not obtaining them through legal means. There is a huge black market and you can easily obtain a handgun within an hour or two if you hit the right neighborhood. If you know the right people fully automatics, grenades, RPG's can be had.

I live in a nice neighborhood but still sleep better knowing that if someone breaks into my house to harm my family, I will take them out.

guns are evil.THREAD CLOSED.

guns are evil.THREAD CLOSED.

Guns dont kill people. People kill people. So people are evil?

why would anyone want to lift a ban on guns in the UK?

There are too many cretins in this world as it is, allowing them to walk into a shop and buy a gun is ridiculous in my opinion.

I can`t see any positives at all.

What do people need a gun for? to shoot other people!

What possible reasons are there to allow ownership of guns as in the US?

What possible reasons are there to allow ownership of guns as in the US?

To protect yourself and family. I am not a hunter, but there are still quite a few Americans that hunt. It may be different accross the Atlantic, but if they were to outlaw gun ownership here, the only people with guns would be the gangs, mob, drug dealers, etc. There is a huge black market for guns many of which are being smuggled in from outside the county.

You may see the few "high profile" shootings that are on TV and in the papers where the looney guy bought the gun legally, but most shootings are performed with illegally obtained firearms.

As for the guy at VT, he would have obtained a firearm illegally or taken up an interest in explosives. The guy was just a nut job.

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Give this up? Nope.

Guns dont kill people. People kill people. So people are evil?

gunz dont kill people rabbits do!

I think more people would feel safe is the police carried firearms yes.