Fresh off the Mexican Press:

In the Press conference to promote and announce the November 27th showdown between Morales and Barrera. There was again bad blood but this time just from Morales' side. As Barrera spoke humbly and Morales said he was shocked that some people changed but in his opinion its all an act to show a humility that Barrera doesnt have.

Anyway off to BIGGER news..

As to Morales' plans for 2005 and if he would move up should he win, Morales said, "We want pacquiao, then we will move up to 135" !!!!!

There it is boys.

that would be a good fight, good info

**** yes!
Morales has redeemed himself in my eyes.
I thought he was pussing out by taking on Barrera instead of Manny.
Good to see that he still wants Manny.

Everybody knows Morales was going to fight Pacquiao. It's just Pac's fans say he's scared but even they know they are going to fight. They just want admit it.

**** yes!
Morales has redeemed himself in my eyes.
I thought he was pussing out by taking on Barrera instead of Manny.
Good to see that he still wants Manny.

Pacman is good, but Morales will be too much for him. should still be a great fight.

Best News Of 2004. Nice!!!

Pacman is good, but Manny will be too much for him. should still be a great fight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DrCynical/emoticons/icon_neutral.gifDo you mean to say that "Pacman is good, but Morales will be too much for him."?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DrCynical/emoticons/icon_neutral.gifDo you mean to say that "Pacman is good, but Morales will be too much for him."?
I believe so.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DrCynical/emoticons/icon_neutral.gifDo you mean to say that "Pacman is good, but Morales will be too much for him."?

Yes thanks,

I believe so.
If so then I agree.
Manny is kinda winning me over due to the situation he's been in.
But that doesn't take away the fact that Morales is just better than him.

Yes thanks,
No problem.

Everybody knows Morales was going to fight Pacquiao. It's just Pac's fans say he's scared but even they know they are going to fight. They just want admit it.


Listen, I think I speak for all Pac fans that we want this thing more than anything else. We were just scared that it wasn't gonna happen. So **** ya we reacted the way we did. But now all is well and I look forward to much debating about this dream match up.

Listen, I think I speak for all Pac fans that we want this thing more than anything else. We were just scared that it wasn't gonna happen. So **** ya we reacted the way we did. But now all is well and I look forward to much debating about this dream match up.
lol I understand why you acted the way you did.
I was feeling the same way when I heard Morales was taking on Barrera.
I felt that not only was Manny being screwed but we were too.
I'm glad to see that Morales really does want to fight Manny.
It should be a great match. :)

Evo is gonna freak lol. Probably cum.

Evo is gonna freak lol. Probably cum.
lol He probably already has and can't log in because his keyboard is too sticky. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DrCynical/emoticons/icon_lol.gif

**** yes!
Morales has redeemed himself in my eyes.
I thought he was pussing out by taking on Barrera instead of Manny.
Good to see that he still wants Manny.

Don't be naive! It's just a publicity to keep everybody talking before his fight with Barrera.

Don't be naive! It's just a publicity to keep everybody talking before his fight with Barrera.
Don't ruin this.
I really want to see Morales fight Manny.

If Morales said it, the fans listened. If he backs out on HIS WORD, it'll will hurt him with his fans. He wouldn't have said it if he didn't mean it cuz now he has to DELIVER.

Don't ruin this.
I really want to see Morales fight Manny.

Heck, who doesn't wanna see this fight between two great fighters happens. But with so many newsflash, rumors, insider tips, etc. about fights that didn't over the past few months, you can't blame people for being paranoid until the real thing shows up.

Anyway, we will see this fight if Manny wins over JMM (which I think he will) and Erik over MAB.

Cheers...

I have said it a dozen times before that Morales wants Pacquiao more than another fight with Barrera. And admit it fight fans, you want it, too.

And if you're gonna blame anybody about how there won't be a Morales-Pacquiao fight this year, blame that old bastard Arum.

Don't be naive! It's just a publicity to keep everybody talking before his fight with Barrera.Let's not rain on this parade, ok? Good news in my nick of the woods is scant! If this is a suckeroo, let's enjoy it while it lasts, then, rave and rant when the fight doesn't happen! We'll have these pages to do it in, won't we? :)

Wont happen!!! JMM will end the Pacquiao asslicking.

How Sweetscience - By boring us to death like he did last weekend? That was a lacklustre performance at best!

Wait and see...

Wont happen!!! JMM will end the Pacquiao asslicking.

Something tells me Morales is gonna try and steal Pacquiao from Marquez. JMM is looking at a february match, Morales fights about every 4 months no matter who his opponent is, so i think Morales will push it and sign pacquiao for March.

aww good point if manny loses to JMM (which is very possible) say goodbye to a mega fight/mega money fight with erik..

i dont think pac fans are upset about erik vs manny they know there fighter has a 90 percent chance of losing but we all know pac will go down fighting if he dose (like gatti-oscar etc..)so yeah..but if manny loses to JMM then that would be very bad for him

one a third note i know its not likely at all...but i hope MAB ko's the hell out of erik..sorry erik fans..just my opioion thats all..but yeah..JMM vs manny winner... vs... erik vs mab winner..thats what i say

i think erik would be to much for pac

i think erik has a good chance of losing versus mab..remember u guys eriks is on top of his game always..except with mab..mab makes erik preform at his worst..look at how they go to war..thats what mab loves cuz he may be able to connect..erik vs mab is personal...thats whats gonna be great about fight.

any word on ho much erik vs mab will cost?????

aww good point if manny loses to JMM (which is very possible) say goodbye to a mega fight/mega money fight with erik..

i dont think pac fans are upset about erik vs manny they know there fighter has a 90 percent chance of losing but we all know pac will go down fighting if he dose (like gatti-oscar etc..)so yeah..but if manny loses to JMM then that would be very bad for him

one a third note i know its not likely at all...but i hope MAB ko's the hell out of erik..sorry erik fans..just my opioion thats all..but yeah..JMM vs manny winner... vs... erik vs mab winner..thats what i say

i think erik would be to much for pac

i think erik has a good chance of losing versus mab..remember u guys eriks is on top of his game always..except with mab..mab makes erik preform at his worst..look at how they go to war..thats what mab loves cuz he may be able to connect..erik vs mab is personal...thats whats gonna be great about fight.

any word on ho much erik vs mab will cost?????

Probably the same as Erik's last fight. 40 bucks.

And im rooting for Erik to KO MAB then KO PAC, then move up and try to win 135lb belt.

ultimate thats a great quote u have
of merchant with his foot in his mouth
you could add
"Why hasnt de la hoya explored the damage from the last round? has he given vargas a chance to recover?"
as oscar nails Vargas with a left hook that floors him

Something tells me Morales is gonna try and steal Pacquiao from Marquez. Morales fights every month, JMM is looking at a february match, Morales fights about every 4 months no matter who his opponent is, so i think Morales will push it and sign pacquiao for March.Here's hoping you're right! :)Just so we'll all know who's the better man, eh?

hey anyword on manny fighting before then???

hey anyword on manny fighting before then???Manny and co. are still in the U.S., scraping the bottom of the barrel after having been snubbed by Barrera, Morales and Marquez. But they're said to be looking Asia-way as well: Chris John of Indonesia who holds the WBA belt (Marquez is WBA Superchampion, a title that continues to mystify me. How could there be two champions in the WBA's featherweight division?) or Chi of Korea.

Manny and co. are still in the U.S., scraping the bottom of the barrel after having been snubbed by Barrera, Morales and Marquez. But they're said to be looking Asia-way as well: Chris John of Indonesia who holds the WBA belt (Marquez is WBA Superchampion, a title that continues to mystify me. How could there be two champions in the WBA's featherweight division?) or Chi of Korea.
How do you see the Chi/Pac fight going?

And if you're gonna blame anybody about how there won't be a Morales-Pacquiao fight this year, blame that old bastard Arum.
Exactly.
I think Morales should leave Arum if he ****s up the Pac fight.

Let's not rain on this parade, ok? Good news in my nick of the woods is scant! If this is a suckeroo, let's enjoy it while it lasts, then, rave and rant when the fight doesn't happen! We'll have these pages to do it in, won't we? :)
That's what I said.
This is good news and I don't want it to be ruined.

Wont happen!!! JMM will end the Pacquiao asslicking.
If he gets a chance to.
I think Morales will get at Pac before JMM does.

How Sweetscience - By boring us to death like he did last weekend? That was a lacklustre performance at best!
I didn't see that match.
Was it really as bad as everyone says?

Wait and see...
Wait and see what?
Do you really think JMM is going to beat Manny?

Something tells me Morales is gonna try and steal Pacquiao from Marquez. Morales fights every month, JMM is looking at a february match, Morales fights about every 4 months no matter who his opponent is, so i think Morales will push it and sign pacquiao for March.
I hope Morales gets to Pac before JMM does.

aww good point if manny loses to JMM (which is very possible) say goodbye to a mega fight/mega money fight with erik..

i dont think pac fans are upset about erik vs manny they know there fighter has a 90 percent chance of losing but we all know pac will go down fighting if he dose (like gatti-oscar etc..)so yeah..but if manny loses to JMM then that would be very bad for him

one a third note i know its not likely at all...but i hope MAB ko's the hell out of erik..sorry erik fans..just my opioion thats all..but yeah..JMM vs manny winner... vs... erik vs mab winner..thats what i say

i think erik would be to much for pac

i think erik has a good chance of losing versus mab..remember u guys eriks is on top of his game always..except with mab..mab makes erik preform at his worst..look at how they go to war..thats what mab loves cuz he may be able to connect..erik vs mab is personal...thats whats gonna be great about fight.

any word on ho much erik vs mab will cost?????
But MAB has been looking bad lately.
Do you really think he has anything to give Morales this time around?

Probably the same as Erik's last fight. 40 bucks.

And im rooting for Erik to KO MAB then KO PAC, then move up and try to win 135lb belt.
Who should Morales go after once he's done with Pac?

ultimate thats a great quote u have
of merchant with his foot in his mouth
you could add
"Why hasnt de la hoya explored the damage from the last round? has he given vargas a chance to recover?"
as oscar nails Vargas with a left hook that floors him
lol Merchant is pretty stupid at times.
How long has he been with HBO?

Here's hoping you're right! :)Just so we'll all know who's the better man, eh?
It's Morales, we all know that. :p

If Morales said it, the fans listened. If he backs out on HIS WORD, it'll will hurt him with his fans. He wouldn't have said it if he didn't mean it cuz now he has to DELIVER.
I think Morales does want Pac, but as I've said it's not up to the fighters.
People like Murad and Arum are the ones who **** these matches up.

Heck, who doesn't wanna see this fight between two great fighters happens. But with so many newsflash, rumors, insider tips, etc. about fights that didn't over the past few months, you can't blame people for being paranoid until the real thing shows up.

Anyway, we will see this fight if Manny wins over JMM (which I think he will) and Erik over MAB.

Cheers...
I know you're paranoid but you don't have to ruin the good news.
Do you think Manny has learned anything during his time off?

I have said it a dozen times before that Morales wants Pacquiao more than another fight with Barrera. And admit it fight fans, you want it, too.
I've been saying that I don't want to see Morales easily beat MAB.
I want to see him beat Pac.

It's Morales, we all know that. :pSorry, i don't KNOW that. But, if, when, after Pacquiao-Morales happens, we'll know whose gonna be wearing the cap with the propeller on top, won't we? THAT, I'd LIKE TO know.

Sorry, i don't KNOW that. But, if, when, after Pacquiao-Morales happens, we'll know whose gonna be wearing the cap with the propeller on top, won't we? THAT, I'd LIKE TO know.
lol Come on, I know Manny's your boy and all.
But do you honestly and most importantly, logically see Manny beating Morales?
Even by points do you see him winning?

I don't.

Also I think Manny would look pretty funny in his usual "no fear" attire, fake smile, and a propeller cap. :p

I would think Morales has a better chance of getting caught by Pac then Barrera or JMM getting caught by Pac.
I don't see Morales beating Pac because he gets hit too too much.

I don't like to get too excited when nothing is for sure, but this is definetly a dream fight matchup that guarantees fireworks.

I would think Morales has a better chance of getting caught by Pac then Barrera or JMM getting caught by Pac.
I don't see Morales beating Pac because he gets hit too too much.

I don't like to get too excited when nothing is for sure, but this is definetly a dream fight matchup that guarantees fireworks.
I think Morales has the more proven chin and power and experience.
With that I say that Morales gives Manny a good beating that leaves Manny not able to put on that fake smile for a good while.

lol Come on, I know Manny's your boy and all.
But do you honestly and most importantly, logically see Manny beating Morales?
Even by points do you see him winning?

I don't.

Also I think Manny would look pretty funny in his usual "no fear" attire, fake smile, and a propeller cap. :pHere's the line: Morales never ko'd Barrera; Barrera fell before Pacman (how many times?) Barrera took Morales' best; Manny took Barrera's best but barely winced. Morales never drove Barrera back with any consistency. Barrera was back-pedalling most of the time with Manny. Logical nuff? No? Ok. It's just how one floats his boat. Re- propeller cap, that's still down the road. We'll see, if Arum gives us a chance. As for Barrera, he's the one wearing one right now after he met Manny. But not to worry, there's enough to go around. I hear someone here is saving one for Morales. :)

Here's the line: Morales never ko'd Barrera; Barrera fell before Pacman (how many times?) Barrera took Morales' best; Manny took Barrera's best but barely winced. Morales never drove Barrera back with any consistency. Barrera was back-pedalling most of the time with Manny. Logical nuff? No? Ok. It's just how one floats his boat. Re- propeller cap, that's still down the road. We'll see, if Arum gives us a chance. As for Barrera, he's the one wearing one right now after he met Manny. But not to worry, there's enough to go around. I hear someone here is saving one for Morales. :)
But also look at Barrera.
He isn't what he used to be, not when he fought Morales.

Who should Morales go after once he's done with Pac?

Hmm I think he should fight Corrales for the soon to be vacant WBC Lightweight championship of the world.

Hmm I think he should fight Corrales for the soon to be vacant WBC Lightweight championship of the world.
Interesting..
Why do you think he should fight Corrales?
How do you see this fight going?

But also look at Barrera.
He isn't what he used to be, not when he fought Morales.I'm looking and don't like what I'm seeing. Remember Barrera had brain surgery in 1997? He was not the Barrera that everyone feared prior to 1997 that Morales met two times. Had the two Barrera- Morales meetings set up Barrera for the Pacquiao kill, that is to say, Barrera was too much of a damaged property when Pacquiao met him because of Morales? That can be argued. But it can also be said that even being relatively fresh from surgery, Barrera survived Morales two times, the decisions in both, controversial. So, Barrera stood before Morales; Pacquiao decked Barrera and went on to TKO him. Barrera is the only person who met both Manny and Morales in the ring. Those are the facts. The rest is commentary.

I'm looking and don't like what I'm seeing. Remember Barrera had brain surgery in 1997? He was not the Barrera that everyone feared prior to 1997 that Morales met two times. Had the two Barrera- Morales meetings set up Barrera for the Pacquiao kill, that is to say, Barrera was too much of a damaged property when Pacquiao met him because of Morales? That can be argued. But it can also be said that even being relatively fresh from surgery, Barrera survived Morales two times, the decisions in both, controversial. So, Barrera stood before Morales; Pacquiao decked Barrera and went on to TKO him. Barrera is the only person who met both Manny and Morales in the ring. Those are the facts. The rest is commentary.
I think the Morales fights took something out of him.
Also, he didn't look that good in the Pac fight.
Not like he did in his other fights.

Interesting..
Why do you think he should fight Corrales?
How do you see this fight going?

I think Diego would be more open to Morales shots and not have the speed to give him trouble like Juan Diaz.

Diego goes down when the punches are right on the button (his chin), and that is Morale's strength. He will tag diego on the righ on the chin repeatedly and it will look a lot like when Diego fought mayweather.

They wont be damaging shots but diego will keep going down. His corner and the ref wont have a choice.

I think the Morales fights took something out of him.
Also, he didn't look that good in the Pac fight.
Not like he did in his other fights.I agree. But what other data is there to base any speculation on other than Barrera? Marquez never had a crack on Morales (not that I know of any wish of his in that direction). Morales' other opponents never met Pacquiao and vversa. So, beyond those facts, one can only rely on one's instincts, or, yes, biases. And those instincts and biases differ from fan to fan. I guess that's why we're having loads of fun on these pages, right? :)

I agree. But what other data is there to base any speculation on other than Barrera? Marquez never had a crack on Morales (not that I know of any wish of his in that direction). Morales' other opponents never met Pacquiao and vversa. So, beyond those facts, one can only rely on one's instincts, or, yes, biases. And those instincts and biases differ from fan to fan. I guess that's why we're having loads of fun on these pages, right? :)
lol Yes and we will continue having fun.
Even after the fight because we will be arguing over the end. :p

I think Diego would be more open to Morales shots and not have the speed to give him trouble like Juan Diaz.

Diego goes down when the punches are right on the button (his chin), and that is Morale's strength. He will tag diego on the righ on the chin repeatedly and it will look a lot like when Diego fought mayweather.

They wont be damaging shots but diego will keep going down. His corner and the ref wont have a choice.
You don't think Corrales has the power to beat Morales?

I agree. But what other data is there to base any speculation on other than Barrera? Marquez never had a crack on Morales (not that I know of any wish of his in that direction). Morales' other opponents never met Pacquiao and vversa. So, beyond those facts, one can only rely on one's instincts, or, yes, biases. And those instincts and biases differ from fan to fan. I guess that's why we're having loads of fun on these pages, right? :)

The thing is u cant use Barrera as a Measuring stick. Even Morales was in the same situation, where Jr Jones DEcked and then UD Barrera. THe Morales came to KO him in 4.

Styles its always about styles.

In my opinion Manny pacquiao vs Morales will look like a Hybrid between Marquez rounds 2- 10 and Morales vs Ayala who is also a southpaw, very fast and very game when he fought him.

Morales naturally rolls to his right against south paws straight lefts, like Marquez learned to do in his fight,

But Morales has much more movement and he covers his chin as he moves.

lol Yes and we will continue having fun.
Even after the fight because we will be arguing over the end. :pLike over De la Hoya- Hopkins, yes. The thread is still blazing at the other end! But that's what e're here for! :D

You don't think Corrales has the power to beat Morales?

I do but i dont think he will be able to beat him on the side of the head and the chances of Diego putting his shots together against a complete moving target and landing perfectly on the chin are pretty slim.

I give Diego a punchers chance, i feel if he lands that one shot on the point of the ching perfect long distance, full leverage and momentum, Morales goes down and dont get up. But when have u known Diego to be a pin point accurate puncher. Know what i mean man.

Like over De la Hoya- Hopkins, yes. The thread is still blazing at the other end! But that's what e're here for! :D
lol Yep.
I'm still trying to keep the boxingscene lounge active.

lol Yep.
I'm still trying to keep the boxingscene lounge active.That was a pretty sedate area last I checked. Looked like a tea party compared to our barroom brawls here. Good luck! :)

hehe yeah this thread is hella fast my hands are getting tired hahaha jk

That was a pretty sedate area last I checked. Looked like a tea party compared to our barroom brawls here. Good luck! :)
Because you bastards neglect that forum!
Get your asses over there! :p

Because you bastards neglect that forum!
Get your asses over there! :pIs that doctor's order? Tasteslike medicine! :(

Is that doctor's order? Tasteslike medicine! :(
lol Could taste like something else if you're not lucky. :p

lol Could taste like something else if you're not lucky. :pI'll just save my fortune for other shots, thanx.

I think the Morales fights took something out of him.
Also, he didn't look that good in the Pac fight.
Not like he did in his other fights.

I disagree. I doubt you can take something out of a fighter like MAB. Heck if anything I think Morales even gave MAB confidence after the win, even after the contreversial draw. MAB fought and survived and even hurt Morales, something that MAB can boast about for the rest of his career and his life.

He did not look good against Pac because Pac made him look bad plain and simple. When you TKO and dominate Marco Antonio Barrera, it's not an eveyday occurance. No **** MAB didn't look good.

There was nothing wrong with him in the first 2 rounds. Same patient MAB, gloves high, waiting for the perfect oppurtunity to release an attack. Heck he was even the agressor in the beginning. Nothing different. Had it NOT been the same MAB, Pac would have decked him in the first round. What gave MAB trouble was Pac's hand speed, relentless agression and
overwhelming power.

As Larry Merchant said it perfectly, "It seems that Barrera has conceded to Pacquiao's power. That he cannot stand toe to toe with the Filipino fighter". Barrera tried everything but poisonous food to stop Pac. He tried to be agressive, Pac overpowered him. He tried to box, Pac would outbox him with his speed. He tried to counter, Pac just walked through them without flinching. The man had nothing else to defend himself which led to the inevitable outcome. He was just outgunned.

The fact of the matter is MAB has never been outscored lopsidedly as he did against Pac. You're talking about an 7-9 point deficit. Unheard of against Barrera . That **** simply doesn't happen. Not from Junior Jones, not even from Morales. That says something about a fighter. Others still say MAB had a "bad night". I just say he got beat by the better man convincingly enough...

The thing is u cant use Barrera as a Measuring stick. Even Morales was in the same situation, where Jr Jones DEcked and then UD Barrera. THe Morales came to KO him in 4.

Styles its always about styles.

In my opinion Manny pacquiao vs Morales will look like a Hybrid between Marquez rounds 2- 10 and Morales vs Ayala who is also a southpaw, very fast and very game when he fought him.

Morales naturally rolls to his right against south paws straight lefts, like Marquez learned to do in his fight,

But Morales has much more movement and he covers his chin as he moves.

MAB for me is a measuring stick because I feel that MAB and Morales share similar styles. Both are well balanced boxers that pick their shots and time their assaults.

Ayala and Manny cannot be compared. Ayala's speed is no where near Pacquiao's and his power doesn't come close. Otherwise, we would have seen the same outcome as MAB-PAC and MAB-Ayala. Just to let you know, MAB roleld out to his left the whole fight hoping to avoid that left. Unsucessfull.

Morales never went down in his career (the one against MAB was "contraversial", for me he just got hurt). MAB never went down 3 times in his career in one fight. JMM never went down 3 times in his career in a single round. I will hold any comments on Morales' chin until after he faces Pac's left hand.

The thing is u cant use Barrera as a Measuring stick. Even Morales was in the same situation, where Jr Jones DEcked and then UD Barrera. THe Morales came to KO him in 4.

Styles its always about styles.

In my opinion Manny pacquiao vs Morales will look like a Hybrid between Marquez rounds 2- 10 and Morales vs Ayala who is also a southpaw, very fast and very game when he fought him.

Morales naturally rolls to his right against south paws straight lefts, like Marquez learned to do in his fight,

But Morales has much more movement and he covers his chin as he moves.Junior Jones was a boxer-puncher who had a respectable but not dreadful punch. Most of his KO's were results of combos well placed. Ayala is notoriously lacking in the power department. His meetings with Bones Adams spoke tomes on this. Were Pacquiao like any one of those, Barrera would not be a good yardstick to speculate on Morales-Pacquiao. Pacquiao's punch can make even a Morales pay attention. Barrera, fairly early, paid more than attention. Yes, styles make fights. The three are all stand-up fighters. Barrera is better known than the other two for defense. He employed it against Morales and did the same against Pacquiao.The first fight was awarded to Morales even though most ringsiders believe it should have gone Barrera's way. The second fight was the complete reverse of that. Controversial, both. When Pacquiao met Marco, the result was decisive. Was Barrera damaged goods when he met Pacquiao? That could be argued. Was Pacquiao too good that Barrera looked bad? That too can be argued. But who's to definitely say? Not even Barrera's doctor could, would or had when it comes to the issue of damaged goods. When it comes to Pacquiao's having made MAC look bad, well, we can go over that again and again until they meet again. After that, we will be going over the two fights' results. :)

MAB for me is a measuring stick because I feel that MAB and Morales share similar styles. Both are well balanced boxers that pick their shots and time their assaults.

Ayala and Manny cannot be compared. Ayala's speed is no where near Pacquiao's and his power doesn't come close. Otherwise, we would have seen the same outcome as MAB-PAC and MAB-Ayala. Just to let you know, MAB roleld out to his left the whole fight hoping to avoid that left. Unsucessfull.

Morales never went down in his career (the one against MAB was "contraversial", for me he just got hurt). MAB never went down 3 times in his career in one fight. JMM never went down 3 times in his career in a single round. I will hold any comments on Morales' chin until after he faces Pac's left hand.

Morales and Barrera have very different styles. They dont even stand the same way. They dont move close to the same way, they dont punch close to the same way.

Ayala on the other hand, jabs a throws the 1 - 2 a lot like Pacquiao only difference is pacquiao leaves himself more open. And he is much more obvious in what he is about to throw.

Morales and Barrera have very different styles. They dont even stand the same way. They dont move close to the same way, they dont punch close to the same way.

Ayala on the other hand, jabs a throws the 1 - 2 a lot like Pacquiao only difference is pacquiao leaves himself more open. And he is much more obvious in what he is about to throw.

If that were the case, then Ayala should have handled MAB pretty well. Or did MAB show that since he KOD Ayala, Pac's faith is th same?

If you're saying that the only difference between Pac and Ayala is that Pac leaves himself more open (LOL) then I think it's pointless arguing with you lol.

By the way Ultimate, out of curiosity, how many Pac fighst have you seen?

If that were the case, then Ayala should have handled MAB pretty well. Or did MAB show that since he KOD Ayala, Pac's faith is th same?

If you're saying that the only difference between Pac and Ayala is that Pac leaves himself more open (LOL) then I think it's pointless arguing with you lol.

hehe u saw that ayala tha Barrera fought... he had love handles, was slow, and didnt apply any pressure. thats who ur talking about.

The Morales vs Ayala torrent just went up on boxing torrent check it out. And see a very different ayala.

Im not saying they fight exactly the same, but from watching that fight you can see Pacquiao's most devastating 1-2 punch combo would be nearly ineffective against morales. They throw it the same, same stance, jab, then a right. Only pacquiao announces to the world when he is about to throw that killer left.

The first time i saw him i believe was a little before ledwaba, then i went to see him live in San Francisco, against Agapito Sanchez.

I been watching him ever since. Exciting fighter, i was probably one of the very fer non phillipino boxing fans that was not surprised when pac beat mab.

hehe u saw that ayala tha Barrera fought... he had love handles, was slow, and didnt apply any pressure. thats who ur talking about.

The Morales vs Ayala torrent just went up on boxing torrent check it out. And see a very different ayala.

Im not saying they fight exactly the same, but from watching that fight you can see Pacquiao's most devastating 1-2 punch combo would be nearly ineffective against morales. They throw it the same, same stance, jab, then a right. Only pacquiao announces to the world when he is about to throw that killer left.

The first time i saw him i believe was a little before ledwaba, then i went to see him live in San Francisco, against Agapito Sanchez.

I been watching him ever since. Exciting fighter, i was probably one of the very fer non phillipino boxing fans that was not surprised when pac beat mab.

Ima download it thanx.

Pac does have a killer 1-2. Although you think that he anounces it to the world then wouldn't you think that his opponents who studied and faced him would have the common sense to avoid them?
MAB SURELY knew about it and yet still got floored by one of those. Even when JMM had the common sense to avoid it after teh 2nd round, Pac still conencted with them. Proof? Marquez' nose kept bleeding after it stopped several times. My point is that you can downright know he'll throw it in the fight. Heck I'd give you my life savings if he doesn't. Avoiding it in it's proper speed is the trick. Manny aims with it. You saw how Ledwaba tried ducking it. Pac still floored him with the same punch.

**MAB match should be proof that Manny can throw other punces. When your're throwing 8-10 punch combos, you can't be called 1D.

On a side note, that's pretty awesome that you saw the Sanchez fight. LOL I bet ou were disappointed it was a draw lol. Or that it didn't even finish decisively!

I think Diego would be more open to Morales shots and not have the speed to give him trouble like Juan Diaz.

Diego goes down when the punches are right on the button (his chin), and that is Morale's strength. He will tag diego on the righ on the chin repeatedly and it will look a lot like when Diego fought mayweather.

They wont be damaging shots but diego will keep going down. His corner and the ref wont have a choice.

Morales is no where as quick as Mayweather. And he has no where close to the power of Frietas so how will Morales be able to put Diego down repeatedly if he couldn't even hurt Barrera?

Corrales won't even have to land clean shots to put Morales on his ass.

I see this as a huge mismatch. If this fight happens we may see Morales crying "No Mas".

Ima download it thanx.

Pac does have a killer 1-2. Although you think that he anounces it to the world then wouldn't you think that his opponents who studied and faced him would have the common sense to avoid them?
MAB SURELY knew about it and yet still got floored by one of those. Even when JMM had the common sense to avoid it after teh 2nd round, Pac still conencted with them. Proof? Marquez' nose kept bleeding after it stopped several times. My point is that you can downright know he'll throw it in the fight. Heck I'd give you my life savings if he doesn't. Avoiding it in it's proper speed is the trick. Manny aims with it. You saw how Ledwaba tried ducking it. Pac still floored him with the same punch.

**MAB match should be proof that Manny can throw other punces. When your're throwing 8-10 punch combos, you can't be called 1D.

On a side note, that's pretty awesome that you saw the Sanchez fight. LOL I bet ou were disappointed it was a draw lol. Or that it didn't even finish decisively!

Most definitely i see where ur getting at, but thats exactly what i mean he uses the jab as a range finder, Marquez kept getting tagged ur right he didnt avoid it all the time but he did enough times to make pac a little weary. Anyway i dont think it will be about avoiding the left it will be about throwing the straight right and hook when he gets in position. Pacquiao tends to really widen his stance, then the jab for range and BOOM explosion, When Marquez made the biggest statements in the fight was when he capitalized on this by throwing the right when pacquiao setting up.

I know he'll hit morales with it but i believe they wont be as accurate with him (right on the chin). Morales tends to move a lot more, Guards his chin a lot more as well, and what could possibly be the ***** in mannys pacquiao, will chase many as many backs straight up for the full length of the ring if he has to, keeping manny from pulling a barrera/marquez in which pac backed off, the pressure from him was dropped by his opponents, and he came back with right- left and downt hey went.

Morales is no where as quick as Mayweather. And he has no where close to the power of Frietas so how will Morales be able to put Diego down repeatedly if he couldn't even hurt Barrera?

Corrales won't even have to land clean shots to put Morales on his ass.

I see this as a huge mismatch. If this fight happens we may see Morales crying "No Mas".

Morales doesnt need to be as quick as mayweather, Just faster than corrales which he is, but more importantly Morales sets fighters up with combinations and movement.

And he doesnt need to hit as hard as Freitas, he just has to hit him on the button which is his chin. Just because Freitas couldnt do it doesnt mean Morales cant. Its about accuracy and thats Where morales will have the upper hand.

Most definitely i see where ur getting at, but thats exactly what i mean he uses the jab as a range finder, Marquez kept getting tagged ur right he didnt avoid it all the time but he did enough times to make pac a little weary. Anyway i dont think it will be about avoiding the left it will be about throwing the straight right and hook when he gets in position. Pacquiao tends to really widen his stance, then the jab for range and BOOM explosion, When Marquez made the biggest statements in the fight was when he capitalized on this by throwing the right when pacquiao setting up.

I know he'll hit morales with it but i believe they wont be as accurate with him (right on the chin). Morales tends to move a lot more, Guards his chin a lot more as well, and what could possibly be the ***** in mannys pacquiao, will chase many as many backs straight up for the full length of the ring if he has to, keeping manny from pulling a barrera/marquez in which pac backed off, the pressure from him was dropped by his opponents, and he came back with right- left and downt hey went.Manny didn't always back-off with Barrera. When he took MAC down with that inside punch, for a KD that Nady didn't call, Manny was ducking below a Barrera punch and went in to deliver a neat short beauty to the chin. Manny would not, make that, should not, take on Morales in the manner that he took on Marquez. He should face Morales the way he faced Barrera. Morales recent KO rate is not as good as Manny's.

w000 i cant wait... its gonna be a great fight.

w000 i cant wait... its gonna be a great fight.Same here, buddy! Gotta go! Run some errands for the wife else she'll hit me with her versions of a Morales right and a Pacquiao left! Catchya later fellows! Thanks for the tons of fun! :)

Everybody knows Morales was going to fight Pacquiao. It's just Pac's fans say he's scared but even they know they are going to fight. They just want admit it.

no man, it was Arum who said Morales will be moving up to 135lbs after MAB. and Morales said nothing after that until this news. maybe he changed his mind of moving up after he saw my threads. LOL! that's what that thread is for... LOL!!!

but honestly, i respect Morales a lot ofcourse. i just want that CHICKEN messeage to be loud enough for him to hear so that he will think of his credibility as a fighter if he overlook Pacquiao. ;)

PEACE...

Evo is gonna freak lol. Probably cum.

YOU BET YA! except for the cum man. :o even if Pac would DO Morales in the ring, it wont make me so... LOL!

good news though. ;)

aww good point if manny loses to JMM (which is very possible) say goodbye to a mega fight/mega money fight with erik..

i dont think pac fans are upset about erik vs manny they know there fighter has a 90 percent chance of losing but we all know pac will go down fighting if he dose (like gatti-oscar etc..)so yeah..but if manny loses to JMM then that would be very bad for him

one a third note i know its not likely at all...but i hope MAB ko's the hell out of erik..sorry erik fans..just my opioion thats all..but yeah..JMM vs manny winner... vs... erik vs mab winner..thats what i say

i think erik would be to much for pac

i think erik has a good chance of losing versus mab..remember u guys eriks is on top of his game always..except with mab..mab makes erik preform at his worst..look at how they go to war..thats what mab loves cuz he may be able to connect..erik vs mab is personal...thats whats gonna be great about fight.

any word on ho much erik vs mab will cost?????

no offense man. but i dont see you havin' any logic on that. specially that Manny 90% losing chances over Erik then you're sayin' Erik has a good chance of losing with MAB? based on your oppinion, STATISTICS would say that since Manny beat MAB (100%), and Erik has a good chance of losing to MAB (say 50%), then the other 50% winning chances of Erik over MAB is all he has over Manny and not Manny losing 90% chances over Erik. unless you have a more logical explanation how you came up with the 90%.

lol Come on, I know Manny's your boy and all.
But do you honestly and most importantly, logically see Manny beating Morales?
Even by points do you see him winning?

I don't.

Also I think Manny would look pretty funny in his usual "no fear" attire, fake smile, and a propeller cap. :p

man, you're sayin' logically? tell you what...

Manny's left can bring down anybody and that does not exempt Morales.

Morales' extra hieght will be a disadvantave 'coz his long and slender body will be a great punching bag for Pac especially after Pac watched how BH KO'd DLH. no great fighter will ever be strong enough for that button. also remember that MAB had slowed too much after suffering for the same punishments from PAc.

And if Morales tries to block his long and slender body, Pac will move up to his head. Erik may not be KO'd but he will deffinitely fall 'coz of the force of Manny's speed and leverage.

The difference between Manny and Erik's other opponents is his devastating power, speed and precission that Erik will definitley give respect than you guys do.

so, since i have respect for Erik's capability, i'd say it's more realistic and logical to see it 50-50. :)

I love Elizabeth Gaskell. I loved Wives and Daughters. I love the character Molly.

I love Elizabeth Gaskell. I loved Wives and Daughters. I love the character Molly.
and i like your user name. cool enough to make me shiver... ;)

and i like your user name. cool enough to make me shiver... ;)

Thank you. That is my family nickname.

hehe u saw that ayala tha Barrera fought... he had love handles, was slow, and didnt apply any pressure. thats who ur talking about.

The Morales vs Ayala torrent just went up on boxing torrent check it out. And see a very different ayala.

Im not saying they fight exactly the same, but from watching that fight you can see Pacquiao's most devastating 1-2 punch combo would be nearly ineffective against morales. They throw it the same, same stance, jab, then a right. Only pacquiao announces to the world when he is about to throw that killer left.

The first time i saw him i believe was a little before ledwaba, then i went to see him live in San Francisco, against Agapito Sanchez.

I been watching him ever since. Exciting fighter, i was probably one of the very fer non phillipino boxing fans that was not surprised when pac beat mab.

Manny only opens up his deffense to stimulate an initial attack from his opponent so he can see an opening. but its not really a big deal 'coz he do it far enough to move his quick feet back.

And about Manny's left being announced to the whole world when its about to throw it, i would agree. but it just so happen that even though his opponents have already thought of that, before they can make any move, they already saw themselves tasting the canvas. that's just how fast he is.

Thank you. That is my family nickname.

realy? cool. mine is Summer and am as Hot as my name. ;) nice to meet ya Winter. :)

realy? cool. mine is Summer and am as Hot as my name. ;) nice to meet ya Winter. :)

You're funny. Nice to meet you too. I guess I will call you Summer from now on.

You're funny. Nice to meet you too. I guess I will call you Summer from now on.

that's HOT and you're COOL. like that... ;)

cut this arse kissin....... manny ate barrera alive when they met, morales wont even do that when they meet and barrera is well past his best

manny will not fight JMM, there is to much money in a pac v morales fight, this will happen before any pac v JMM fight

personally i want to see it first aswell, pac will destroy morales and then go on to ruin JMM career and then finish naseem hamed off when he returns (lol)

cut this arse kissin....... manny ate barrera alive when they met, morales wont even do that when they meet and barrera is well past his best

manny will not fight JMM, there is to much money in a pac v morales fight, this will happen before any pac v JMM fight

personally i want to see it first aswell, pac will destroy morales and then go on to ruin JMM career and then finish naseem hamed off when he returns (lol)Once Pac is done with Morales and Marquez, a search for Hamed will prove futile; he will have dug himself a deeper hole! Brodie, Harrison, the former Olympian Juarez who remains undefeated, Chi, Larios, Chris John and the likewise unbeaten Joan Guzman (he's a Jr. feather but he should be asked to join the party!) are padding materials for Manny's win column. Milestones, if you will, along the road that Pacman is going to take on his way to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, NY! :D You could add more milestones, if you wish. The more the merrier! :D

Once Pac is done with Morales and Marquez, a search for Hamed will prove futile; he will have dug himself a deeper hole! Brodie, Harrison, the former Olympian Juarez who remains undefeated, Chi, Larios, Chris John and the likewise unbeaten Joan Guzman (he's a Jr. feather but he should be asked to join the party!) are padding materials for Manny's win column. Milestones, if you will, along the road that Pacman is going to take on his way to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, NY! :D You could add more milestones, if you wish. The more the merrier! :D

Out of all those names, I see probably Juarez and Guzman as the only real threats.

cut this arse kissin....... manny ate barrera alive when they met, morales wont even do that when they meet and barrera is well past his best

manny will not fight JMM, there is to much money in a pac v morales fight, this will happen before any pac v JMM fight

personally i want to see it first aswell, pac will destroy morales and then go on to ruin JMM career and then finish naseem hamed off when he returns (lol)

Hammed wont be commin back. specially when he saw how good Pac realy is. he knows he wont stand a chance. :cool:

Out of all those names, I see probably Juarez and Guzman as the only real threats.


I can't wait till Pac slaughters Juarez......in Houston, TX!!!

hehe u saw that ayala tha Barrera fought... he had love handles, was slow, and didnt apply any pressure. thats who ur talking about.

The Morales vs Ayala torrent just went up on boxing torrent check it out. And see a very different ayala.

Im not saying they fight exactly the same, but from watching that fight you can see Pacquiao's most devastating 1-2 punch combo would be nearly ineffective against morales. They throw it the same, same stance, jab, then a right. Only pacquiao announces to the world when he is about to throw that killer left.

The first time i saw him i believe was a little before ledwaba, then i went to see him live in San Francisco, against Agapito Sanchez.

I been watching him ever since. Exciting fighter, i was probably one of the very fer non phillipino boxing fans that was not surprised when pac beat mab.

lol...well Ultimate I dlded the Ayala-Morales fight. And frankly I don't know where to start.

You said that 1-2 would be inefective against Morales judging from the fight. I saw the complete opposite. Morales is asking for the 1-2. He's leaves himself open for it. Ayala caught him multiple times. But as grayfist said, man had no power. Still he managed to make Morales' nose trickle blodd. Imagine Manny's power. Broken nose, I guarantee.

It's a farce to compare Ayala and Pac. Just the discrepnacy in speed and power says it all. They don't even come close. Ayala looked flat footed, terrible foot work. He was just target practice for Erik. Manny's all about movement. He ain't gonna stay there like Ayala did and eat those punches.

The only similar thing between Ayala and Pac is the fact that they are southpaws. End of story. While Ayala looke like a mismatch against Erik, Pac will give him hell and war. U-T-T-E-R war. If Erik thought MAB was a tough opponent, wait till he sees what's in store for him. Morales is tough but I can think of 101 reasons why Pac can win and will win this fight. All in due time...

Who should Morales go after once he's done with Pac?

A plastic surgeon.

If so then I agree.
Manny is kinda winning me over due to the situation he's been in.
But that doesn't take away the fact that Morales is just better than him.

Morales is the better all-around fighter than Pacquiao and at 130 he'll be the naturally bigger and stronger fighter. But his tendency to brawl during his heated fights might play his downfall against the PacMan. I say it's a 50/50 chance for both of them. At a catch-up weight of say, 128 lbs - Pac destroys a starved and weakened El Terrible.

Morales is the better all-around fighter than Pacquiao and at 130 he'll be the naturally bigger and stronger fighter. But his tendency to brawl during his heated fights might play his downfall against the PacMan. I say it's a 50/50 chance for both of them. At a catch-up weight of say, 128 lbs - Pac destroys a starved and weakened El Terrible.

I somewhat agree but if Morales was the bigger stronger guy, then why would he lose in a brawl?

A plastic surgeon.

LOL That's funny.

Chicco.

I somewhat agree but if Morales was the bigger stronger guy, then why would he lose in a brawl?


That gives Pac the oppurtunity to unload and slip in his lightning-quick straight left. BOOM! LIGHTS OUT. GOOD NIGHT. :eek:

If Barrera was able to KD Morales, so can Pacquiao who's undeniably the stronger hitter. ;)

This is very good news that Erik Morales wants to box with Emmanuel Pacquiao.

Emmanuel Pacquiao is very entertaining fighter, he creates great explosion in the ring.
Erik Morales is very tough fighter and takes all challenges.

This will be fight of year.

Well good news if indeed Morales is not climbing up in weight without fighting Pacquiao first . . . good decision . . . that will remove doubts that he is ducking anybody . . . I hope he stands by this decision.

I just can't see any descent and acceptable reason why a p4p fighter would refuse another p4p fighter. ;)

Well good news if indeed Morales is not climbing up in weight without fighting Pacquiao first . . . good decision . . . that will remove doubts that he is ducking anybody . . . I hope he stands by this decision.

I just can't see any descent and acceptable reason why a p4p fighter would refuse another p4p fighter. ;)

risk .

risk .
I think Morales does want Manny and will do whatever he can to get Manny.
Only thing standing in his way is Arum.

I think Morales does want Manny and will do whatever he can to get Manny.
Only thing standing in his way is Arum.

Agreed .

I think Morales does want Manny and will do whatever he can to get Manny.
Only thing standing in his way is Arum.



Exactly! I do believe that's the truth . . . Morales is not the one afraid to take the risk it's ****I'N ARUM. If Morales is not afraid to go up in weight and mixed it up with the heavier guys why should he be afraid to fight a smaller guy.

All I can say is, after the Fahsan fight, it should El Terrible before the rematch with JMM!!!

Boxing politics sucks.

The politics do suck just like the excuse for Gatti vs Tszyu **** networks get in there and bang!!

Boxing politics sucks.

Aside from $$$$$$$ politics, the bigger question is what Morales will do after the fight if Barrera does give him a very close bout.
Even if Barrera loses but such defeat is a close decision, will certainly make Arum quite worried that Pacquiao can demolish Erik as convincingly as Pac did to Barrera.
For sure Arum will not want to lose a prize fighter under his belt. He makes a living from his fighters, remember!
So we as fightfans need to see Morales knocking out Barrera. This is the only way Arum will feel confident that EM has what it takes to demolish Pacman.
I see a Pac-Marquez rematch if EM-MAB 3 is just like EM-MAB 1&2.

If so then I agree.
Manny is kinda winning me over due to the situation he's been in.
But that doesn't take away the fact that Morales is just better than him.


We'll see about that.

Morales is straight gangster man...Fights anybody anywhere, even a dangerous opponent in Pacquiao when he could just move up in weight...and keeps on winning...Y isn't he higher on Pound for pound lists?

Morales is straight gangster man...Fights anybody anywhere, even a dangerous opponent in Pacquiao when he could just move up in weight...and keeps on winning...Y isn't he higher on Pound for pound lists?

Yes he is . . . I'm dying to see that fight happen but before that . . . EM needs to get past hrough MAB which I believe would still be very hard to do.

Yes he is . . . I'm dying to see that fight happen but before that . . . EM needs to get past hrough MAB which I believe would still be very hard to do.

If Morales lose, he can blame a bad night. But MAB is gone if he loses. That's why I believe Marco will beat Erik this time.
MAB may not fight Pacquiao if he wins against Erik. MAB has had a bad experience against previous fighters who beat him.

I think Morales has the more proven chin and power and experience.
With that I say that Morales gives Manny a good beating that leaves Manny not able to put on that fake smile for a good while.


Morales can't even KD Barrera. Pacquiao beat MAB Round 2 to 11.

Morales can't even KD Barrera. Pacquiao beat MAB Round 2 to 11.
that means nothing styles make fights :eek:

It means Pacman is powerful than Morales.

It means Pacman is powerful than Morales.
at what weight? we havent seen pac at 130

at what weight? we havent seen pac at 130


Pacman can bring that power when he moves up. His power improve everytime he moves up and he trains different. I know that Morales is the bigger guy but it will not be a big factor for Manny and he got an ace trainer. Pacman is improving every fight he is in.

I think there is a good chance that Morales will really undress Pacman when they meet. Should be a very exciting fight though. :)

He shouldn't move past 130 anyways....

i love both those guys. tough fight to call. if morales can box, he should win, but if he decides to brawl, i think pac takes it. man, whatever, thats the biggest fight that can be made right now. i want that over anything else.

Hope that Erik's next opponent would be Pac already.

Yeah, Morales vs. Pacquiao would be a spectacular fight. Both are tough.

If Morales would not move up in weight, then Pacman would not move up in weight either. LOL, Honestly, I think Morales will be too much for Pacman, but who knows? Pacman is a storm!

If Morales would not move up in weight, then Pacman would not move up in weight either. LOL, Honestly, I think Morales will be too much for Pacman, but who knows? Pacman is a storm!


Without a bias opinion - I say Morales will NOT BE too much for Pacman. WHY?????? Beacause pacman can take a punch, has the power fist over Morales (this is proven fact of Pacquiao vs. MAB - MAB was KD) and (Morales vs. MAB - MAB wasn't KD) and (Pacquiao vs. JMM) he is explosive, pacquiao has speed, pacquiao is non-stop or has great stamina and Pacquiao has a great ace trainer on his side who can fine tune his skills. But let's see on their fight who the better fighter is. I say 60% Pacquiao over 40% Morales.

If the third Morales-MAB meeting turns out to be anywhere near the previous two editions, both fighters can only emerge from it pretty much scathed. Nobody comes out of any war exactly the same as before one gets into one.

If Pacquiao faces Morales anytime soon after MAB-Erik III, the Erik Pac shall be going up against won't be the Erik MAB will be facing this coming weekened. This upcoming fight--and I repeat, if it is close in character to the previous two(from all indications it shall be)-- will take its toll on Morales; as it would on MAB.

On the other hand, Pac's last meeting (Marquez) served only to teach him a few lessons and left him with not much more than a blistered toe, a sore hand and, yes, a little disappointment. His upcoming fight against a Thai in Manila, is seen as one that is a mere filler to so much of his vacant time. :)

If Pac meets Morales at catch weight of 128, his chances improve even more. But is there any chance that Arum would agree to that? Fat chance! :rolleyes:

Im pretty sure Morales will or has learned something from the JMM Pac fight.. so he should know what to do with Pac.. IMO I say this fight will be close and Morales should pull off a pretty close decision...

If the third Morales-MAB meeting turns out to be anywhere near the previous two editions, both fighters can only emerge from it pretty much scathed. Nobody comes out of any war exactly the same as before one gets into one.

If Pacquiao faces Morales anytime soon after MAB-Erik III, the Erik Pac shall be going up against won't be the Erik MAB will be facing this coming weekened. This upcoming fight--and I repeat, if it is close in character to the previous two(from all indications it shall be)-- will take its toll on Morales; as it would on MAB.

On the other hand, Pac's last meeting (Marquez) served only to teach him a few lessons and left him with not much more than a blistered toe, a sore hand and, yes, a little disappointment. His upcoming fight against a Thai in Manila, is seen as one that is a mere filler to so much of his vacant time. :)

If Pac meets Morales at catch weight of 128, his chances improve even more. But is there any chance that Arum would agree to that? Fat chance! :rolleyes:

watup grayfist long time no see buddy

watup grayfist long time no see buddyHi, pal!!! :) Had my plate full for a while! Good to see ya again, buddy! :D

Morales is the man to beat in a Pac-Morales meeting. He's the bigger fellow and the fight--chances are-- shall be at the weight he is currently fighting in. It's Pac who will be going up to challenge Morales at the latter's weight turf. One can merely try to evaluate what Pac's chances are given the situation he shall be in if and when he faces Morales.

If Morales dares to go back down to featherweight, then, it shall be HIS chances that should be evaluated, as featherweight is Pac's turf.

Morales is 130 pound king, according to most people's reckoning. Pac is the widely acknowledged featherweight champ---THE PEOPLE's CHAMP, if you will, :) although JMM and Chi would certainly begrudge that! ;)

5 pounds is a lot for skinny little guys like Pacman. For a heavyweight 5 pounds is nothing, but for little guys 5 pounds is a bigger percentage of their body. By the way, those 5 pounds gained will probably be fat since its imposible gain 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months. Don't forget Pacman is just a forward coming fighter like Trinidad. After Marquez swithched strategy by the 2nd round, Pacman was rendered harmless and was almost finished by Marquez. All that Marquez did was raise his right hand and move left to avoid Pacman's left straight. If you see that fight again, Marquez was just brilliantly going in circles to the left. I give Marquez a lot of credit for being so smart in spite of his pain. I see a repeat of Barrera vs Prince Hammed in this fight, where Morales outboxes technic defficient Pacwoman.
Morales is a boxer/puncher.
Pacman is just a puncher period.
Pacman will beaten silly like he was for 11 rounds against Marquez.

5 pounds is a lot for skinny little guys like Pacman. For a heavyweight 5 pounds is nothing, but for little guys 5 pounds is a bigger percentage of their body. By the way, those 5 pounds gained will probably be fat since its imposible gain 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months. Don't forget Pacman is just a forward coming fighter like Trinidad. After Marquez swithched strategy by the 2nd round, Pacman was rendered harmless and was almost finished by Marquez. All that Marquez did was raise his right hand and move left to avoid Pacman's left straight. If you see that fight again, Marquez was just brilliantly going in circles to the left. I give Marquez a lot of credit for being so smart in spite of his pain. I see a repeat of Barrera vs Prince Hammed in this fight, where Morales outboxes technic defficient Pacwoman.
Morales is a boxer/puncher.
Pacman is just a puncher period.
Pacman will beaten silly like he was for 11 rounds against Marquez.

MAB was a puncher/boxer, he got his ass handed to him. What's your point? Plus did you know that Morales, was ELEVEN pounds heavier than MAB in their last fight?!? What happened there?

He was bigger and slower. Thats my point.

This is my prediction. Manny Pacquiao will TKO Eric Morales at the very first round!!!

Hey, listen folks! I predict a win of Pacquiao over Morales in their coming fight. You may disagree with me but here are the facts:

1. Most of Pacquiao's win in his fights were via the short route, while Morales' fights last to the distance.
2. Pacquiao is much younger than Morales, age in boxing is a determining factor.
3. Pacquiao's annihilation of Barrera was convincing, on the other hand the loss of Morales to Barrera is convincing too. Who's the tougher guy?
4. Morales' physical attribute is bigger than that of Pacquiao but it cannot be established that all bigger fighters prevailed over smaller opponents.
5. Pacquiao's power is devastating while Morales' power is suspect. In their three fights, Morales did not deck Barrera even once. Look at his face after the fights.

Thank You!

I agree Pac is the faster paced, faster hand, harder puncher. Yes Morales does have a size advantage but i think Pacs speed and movement will of set that. Then its down to power and youth which is on Pacs side. I think it will be a great fight but will end in a late Ko of morales.

what i predict is a very good fight

Hey, listen folks! I predict a win of Pacquiao over Morales in their coming fight. You may disagree with me but here are the facts:

1. Most of Pacquiao's win in his fights were via the short route, while Morales' fights last to the distance.
2. Pacquiao is much younger than Morales, age in boxing is a determining factor.
3. Pacquiao's annihilation of Barrera was convincing, on the other hand the loss of Morales to Barrera is convincing too. Who's the tougher guy?
4. Morales' physical attribute is bigger than that of Pacquiao but it cannot be established that all bigger fighters prevailed over smaller opponents.
5. Pacquiao's power is devastating while Morales' power is suspect. In their three fights, Morales did not deck Barrera even once. Look at his face after the fights.

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Pacquaio has been knocking out more of his opponents but look at the quality of opponents, other than JMM and Barrera he hasn't really fought many other top tear fighters, Morales on the other hand has been fighting only the best for quite a while. Also expect Morales to come out in much better physical condition than in prior fights, he has more at stake. Look for him to come in closer to 130 than he did against Barrera and in with better stamina. I expect him to outbox and frustrate pacquiao early and earn a late stoppage. A KO of morales just seems unreal, this guys never even been really hurt in his career. Either way we'll see march 19th, cant wait.

what i predict is a very good fight

Im going to have to disagree with you on this one bro... I predict its going to be a great fight! :D

5 pounds is a lot for skinny little guys like Pacman. For a heavyweight 5 pounds is nothing, but for little guys 5 pounds is a bigger percentage of their body. By the way, those 5 pounds gained will probably be fat since its imposible gain 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months. Don't forget Pacman is just a forward coming fighter like Trinidad. After Marquez swithched strategy by the 2nd round, Pacman was rendered harmless and was almost finished by Marquez. All that Marquez did was raise his right hand and move left to avoid Pacman's left straight. If you see that fight again, Marquez was just brilliantly going in circles to the left. I give Marquez a lot of credit for being so smart in spite of his pain. I see a repeat of Barrera vs Prince Hammed in this fight, where Morales outboxes technic defficient Pacwoman.
Morales is a boxer/puncher.
Pacman is just a puncher period.
Pacman will beaten silly like he was for 11 rounds against Marquez.Pac's power is such that pople find it easy to overlook his boxing abilities. Many, to illustrate an alleged lack of boxing skills on Pac's part, refer to the Marquez fight; conveniently overlooking the MAB meeting, which, if it were only a matter of power, Pac could not have dominated.

Dominating a fighter, round after round, who is considered one of the most skilled ever to climb a ring cannot be because of power alone. Boxing skills are mandatory.

Pac seldom won by puncher's chance. Most of his victories came via giving fits to his opponents. That takes boxing skills.
Comparing the Pac- Morales setto with the Hamed-MAB fight is a stretch. MAB doesn't fight like Morales or Pac. Neither did Hamed. Similarities cannot even begin.

Going back to the Marquez fight, is anyone saying Marquez, with all his vaunted boxing abilities, DOMINATED after he turned the tide? I don't hear any. In a number of the middle and later rounds, judges saw the fight as either close or Pac's rounds. (The judging error could not have been controversial had it been that Marquez was dominant all throughout the rounds after the first and second and he would have eked out a decision had that dominance been there). Isn't there a good chance that Marquez failed to dominate because Pac, not only has power but also boxing skills-- both offense and defense?

Looking at the post fight pictures, one can say that Marquez's face was more a nightmare than Pac's. If Pac were unable to box, how did those lumps and half closed eye happen? ;)