So many people are complaining about a lack of talent in the hw division and that there is no true champion. IMO - I couldn't be more exited about the division.

It's a rare thing to have the division so open? When I think back, it was Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Holmes and so on. We've been able to point the finger at one true champion for a long long time.

Despite all our different opinions of who is the best HW out there, it should be fun to see these guys duke it out for the top spot, or watch a new champion develope.

So I say to you, sit back, let things unfold, and enjoy it. It doesn't happen that often.

what kind of dumbass question is this?

I love your in love with Vitali and all but come on now. The division is as bad as its ever been.

End Of The Day, It Might Be Good Not Knowing Who Is Going To Win Fights Etc Etc Etc, However If The Boxers Were Of An Historic Level, Like Holyfield, Lewis And Tyson Were, Then The Closeness Is More Interesting Than The Fact They Are All ****

Lol, The Heavyweight Division Is A Bag Of Wank

Danny Williams Getting A Shot Prooves That

Don King Needs To Let His Fighters Unify The Titles

With Their Being 4 Champs, One Ruiz Lol, It Makes The Belts Pointless

what kind of dumbass question is this?

I love your in love with Vitali and all but come on now. The division is as bad as its ever been.

I second that.

End Of The Day, It Might Be Good Not Knowing Who Is Going To Win Fights Etc Etc Etc, However If The Boxers Were Of An Historic Level, Like Holyfield, Lewis And Tyson Were, Then The Closeness Is More Interesting Than The Fact They Are All ****

Lol, The Heavyweight Division Is A Bag Of Wank

Danny Williams Getting A Shot Prooves That

Don King Needs To Let His Fighters Unify The Titles

With Their Being 4 Champs, One Ruiz Lol, It Makes The Belts Pointless


What this guy said!!

Are you being sarcastic? The Heavyweight division is worse than it has ever been. There is almost no talent.....at all. Why do you think a medium skilled robotic giant is the current champ? Why do you think former Middleweights can be considered top ten Heavies?.....no talent.

So many people are complaining about a lack of talent in the hw division and that there is no true champion. IMO - I couldn't be more exited about the division.

It's a rare thing to have the division so open? When I think back, it was Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Holmes and so on. We've been able to point the finger at one true champion for a long long time.

Despite all our different opinions of who is the best HW out there, it should be fun to see these guys duke it out for the top spot, or watch a new champion develope.

So I say to you, sit back, let things unfold, and enjoy it. It doesn't happen that often.


Noone will be recognized for a long time until one of kings fighters fight a NON king fighter and gets the belt.....


Vitali is the champ that isnt in the Don King stable and if a fighter fights one of kings fighters who isnt in that stable and then takes a stab at vitali then they would be my recognized champ.....Then and only then will we have a true champion...Vitali holding one belt of 5 is no different then any others.....

If a fighter gets a chance with a king fighter and demolishes them then their is a chance but that is even gloomy due to the fact everytime someone fights a king fighter and presumably wins they are now "all king".....The Heavyweight division is definatly ****ed in the ass until Don gets ****ed or dies...Whichever comes first.

Noone will be recognized for a long time until one of kings fighters fight a NON king fighter and gets the belt.....


Vitali is the champ that isnt in the Don King stable and if a fighter fights one of kings fighters who isnt in that stable and then takes a stab at vitali then they would be my recognized champ.....Then and only then will we have a true champion...Vitali holding one belt of 5 is no different then any others.....

If a fighter gets a chance with a king fighter and demolishes them then their is a chance but that is even gloomy due to the fact everytime someone fights a king fighter and presumably wins they are now "all king".....The Heavyweight division is definatly ****ed in the ass until Don gets ****ed or dies...Whichever comes first.

Your right about Don King, he is holding things up and will most likely never allow his fighters in with the Robot. With that said, I actually do consider Klit to be the best Heavyweight right now simply because I can't see any of the top ten with any advantages in a fight with him. Not to say Klit is better (skillwise), just has advantages in power and size. The division is dead any way you look at it.

Your right about Don King, he is holding things up and will most likely never allow his fighters in with the Robot. With that said, I actually do consider Klit to be the best Heavyweight right now simply because I can't see any of the top ten with any advantages in a fight with him. Not to say Klit is better (skillwise), just has advantages in power and size. The division is dead any way you look at it.


Vitali's best asset is his size, especially since majority of the other fighters are shorter and weigh a considerable amount less...However his backing up w/ his hands down is going to get to him...But I do believe he has a pretty good chin.....


Skillwise my vote goes to byrd, I realize a lot of other people dislike byrd but he is a pretty good champ and as a boxer byrd is complete, however I feel if he was w/ another promotion company he would shine a lot better.....Byrd has the balls the size of klitschko byrd has never ducked anyone and wants to fight everyone.....Chris and Vitali are the 2 top heavyweights right and need to finish their business....

Byrd will school McCline especially since he stated he doesnt want to brawl anymore and that was just a test and to show the public he can stand on a dime and trade w/ no trouble.....Since he is going to traditional byrd I see noone stopping him for a while....Unless he meets someone w/ tremendous power although noone in the division possesses this except vitali (maybe) and I think Jirov would be a threat to byrd but other than that unless Ike gets out of prison Byrd will be on top for a while next to Vitali.

I have to say, its the worst time I can remember because there ids not one fighter at the moment that inspires or interests me, I could not give a damn who's champion - the division is just full of bums, I mean for god sake:

Byrd, Ruiz, Wlad, Vitali, Williams, Sanders, Tua, Brewster god the list goes on - what a load of drival.

Just one decent fighter would be a start.

Compared to the talent and entertainment and antisipation of Featherweight, Junior Welterwight, Weltereight, Middleweight etc. As a youngster I thought boxing was all about the heavies - how naive I was

I have to say, its the worst time I can remember because there ids not one fighter at the moment that inspires or interests me, I could not give a damn who's champion - the division is just full of bums, I mean for god sake:

Byrd, Ruiz, Wlad, Vitali, Williams, Sanders, Tua, Brewster god the list goes on - what a load of drival.

Just one decent fighter would be a start.

Compared to the talent and entertainment and antisipation of Featherweight, Junior Welterwight, Weltereight, Middleweight etc. As a youngster I thought boxing was all about the heavies - how naive I was


If someone could lure wayne brathwaite into the heavyweight division we might have another holyfield like fighter on our hands.

i agree with pinkpanther. this is the WORST time to b a heavyweight fan. there seriously is not one good & exciting fighter in the division. on the other hand, it is the BEST time to b a fan of the middleweight division. Taylor, Hopkins, ODLH, Vargas, Quartey, Eastman, the list goes on.

i agree with pinkpanther. this is the WORST time to b a heavyweight fan. there seriously is not one good & exciting fighter in the division. on the other hand, it is the BEST time to b a fan of the middleweight division. Taylor, Hopkins, ODLH, Vargas, Quartey, Eastman, the list goes on.


The heavyweight divisioned revamped over night....It actually brings it back to the 70-80's


Duran
Hagler
Hearns
Leonard

we got

Hopkins
Taylor
Sturm
Trinidad

Im not listing the other guys because dlh looked mediocre and only draws off his name in the middleweight division and I have yet to see quartey/vargas in that division either.

However I do write Vargas off, I think he is finished.

what kind of dumbass question is this?

I love your in love with Vitali and all but come on now. The division is as bad as its ever been.

I was trying to look at the division in a positive light. IMO - it would be fun to watch another Mike Tyson develope and dominate the division.

If you slow down your Hate and have one intelligent minute, read my post again. I never mentioned my preference of who I would like to come out on top.

Oh, I hear Paxil is good for your condition.

I was trying to look at the division in a positive light. IMO - it would be fun to watch another Mike Tyson develope and dominate the division.

If you slow down your Hate and have one intelligent minute, read my post again. I never mentioned my preference of who I would like to come out on top.

Oh, I hear Paxil is good for your condition.

It might be more interesting if all the "belt" fought each other and unified the championship. Even though I am not impressed with any of them that at least would grab my attention. But since that isn't likely to happen I have to ageree that the division is as bad as I have seen it in 30 years of following boxing.

I was trying to look at the division in a positive light. IMO - it would be fun to watch another Mike Tyson develope and dominate the division.

If you slow down your Hate and have one intelligent minute, read my post again. I never mentioned my preference of who I would like to come out on top.

Oh, I hear Paxil is good for your condition.

If you looked at things in an intelligent manner then you wouldn't ask dumbass questions like "Is this the greatest time to be a Heavyweight boxing fan?".

Mediocre heavywieghts, almost always on PPV. Bad time to be a fan. :(

If Golota actualy has his **** together this time, as it appeared he did against Byrd, he could add some much needed excitement to the division.

It is sad, though, that the most exciting prospects in the heavyweight division are a tempremental (emphasis on the "mental") over the hill Pole and a beefed up, big-mouthed middleweight.

Jirov could add some excitement, too, though I don't know if he could stand in amongst the really huge guys. It would be nice if he could.

I agree. Golota's nefarious tactics are the highlight of the division now.

Swell time to be, if one is a masochist.

It's not a great time to be a Heavyweight boxing fan due to the half ass skill most of the fighters possess. Paying hard earned money to watch fighters hug, pitty-pat, and look clumsy all night long pisses me off. Thank god for de-scramblers.

Truthfullly, it will be like this for awhile and all that we can do as boxing fans is to be patient until a new heavyweight emerges and unifies all the belts....OR a current belt holder decides to stop dicking around and Unifies to become Undisputed. Currently, things are a god-awful mess.

I think this is about right...
When you start talking about Tua in the same sentence as Champion, things have gotten pretty bad.

I hope someone comes along pretty soon.

I think this is about right...
When you start talking about Tua in the same sentence as Champion, things have gotten pretty bad.

I hope someone comes along pretty soon.

Yeah. When anybody gets excited about Tua, then we HAVE a problem!

Really, just look at the HW title holders today - Ruiz, Byrd, Brester, Vitali (never mind the contenders' list, you'll just get more depressed!) Except perhaps for Vitali, none of the present crop can create a stir larger than a drop of Eye-Mo in a pool. It's lifeless, boring, devoid of any excitement!

The last geat era had LL, Evander and Tyson. And they're practically all gone now. Do we see a new golden age in HW boxing? From where I sit, no. Not yet, anyway!:sad: :crying:

Middle weight and welterweight is were boxing is at now and has been at for the last few years. I don't see anything changing that soon. We need some better fighters and fights at the heavyweight division to bring my attention there again

The heavyweight division is wretched.

I honestly could care less, who wins a fight among fighters above 168 as a matter of fact.

It is just "fun" to speculate. HW division is a freakshow, and the lightheavyweight division flat out sucks.

That Tarver/Johnson fight was a load of garbage if you ask me.

Vitali's best asset is his size, especially since majority of the other fighters are shorter and weigh a considerable amount less...However his backing up w/ his hands down is going to get to him...But I do believe he has a pretty good chin.....


Skillwise my vote goes to byrd, I realize a lot of other people dislike byrd but he is a pretty good champ and as a boxer byrd is complete, however I feel if he was w/ another promotion company he would shine a lot better.....Byrd has the balls the size of klitschko byrd has never ducked anyone and wants to fight everyone.....Chris and Vitali are the 2 top heavyweights right and need to finish their business....

Byrd will school McCline especially since he stated he doesnt want to brawl anymore and that was just a test and to show the public he can stand on a dime and trade w/ no trouble.....Since he is going to traditional byrd I see noone stopping him for a while....Unless he meets someone w/ tremendous power although noone in the division possesses this except vitali (maybe) and I think Jirov would be a threat to byrd but other than that unless Ike gets out of prison Byrd will be on top for a while next to Vitali.


Well 3 out 4 of vk last opponents LL,kj and dw outweighted him, he aint allways the heavyer.
Vk is actually the best trained of them.

Byrd is ducking wk.

But byrd will beat him if they ever fight again

who do you think could be a good upcoming boxer apart from amir

I cant wait till the next batch of real fighters enters the Heavyweights because right now the division is so boring and the talent that does have the belt really isnt talented. This has to be the worst Heavyweight set of fighters I have seen all my life!

Vitali Klitschko-Robotic and quit against a ****in Bird

Chris Byrd-Thinks he deserves all the money in the world but he reall aint **** and punches like a ****in girl

Calvin Brock-Awesome combination punching and underrated power, but still to green, definately some potential though

James Toney-Former Middleweight Champion, the last thing we need is a blown up middleweight taking over the heavyweights

Samuel Peter-One dimensional overrated fighter

Wladimir Klitschko-Glass chin.....

Lamon Brewser-My boy and will take over the division hopefully

John Ruiz-The biggest bum to ever hold a title

Hasim Rahman-Overrated and only holds a win over Lennox Lewis and lost to a 41 year old Holyfield


Torino....you don't make sence LOL

The heavyweight division is wretched.

I honestly could care less, who wins a fight among fighters above 168 as a matter of fact.

It is just "fun" to speculate. HW division is a freakshow, and the lightheavyweight division flat out sucks.

That Tarver/Johnson fight was a load of garbage if you ask me.

I agree.....

I think this gotta be like one of worst era in the heavyweight division if not the worst. I mean look at the so called champions, none of them possess greatness and potential to be among the best.

The last time it was great to be a heavyweight boxing fan was when Mike Tyson was in his prime. It was also a great time to be a boxing fan during the primes of Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes.
Any more questions? :boxing:

The heavyweight division is the best it's ever been in my lifetime...there are more top boxers than ever before! It wasn't so great in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's - in fact by the early 90's it was so boring I stopped watching it completely. The fighters today are better than ever before, it's become much more competitive!

Because right now the four titleholders and top 5 ranked by boxrec and Ring Magazine are not from the US, I'm going to have to put up with all the whining about how bad the division is until there's another American champ. But that may not be for a long time...

The HW division right now sucks. Its so boring to watch with a very low talent pool. Yes its an open division like the post starter stated but its open due to lack of talent its not like the WW division which is open but loaded with talent.

there where loads of good heavyweight fights in the 90's and lots of big names tyson holyfield bowe lewis foreman moorer ect, 00's have been **** no big names and only a few good fights, plus a lot the prospects that people thought where going to be good turned out to be average at best, ike ibeabuchi who could still have been exciting us today got his ass locked up in prison, sam peter has limited skill set, wlad has a fairly weak chin and possible stamina problems vitali got injured before he had the chance to prove him self against the rest of the division, i could go on.