there they go again.
we've got the newly hired peppy sales manager and the loan officer who's been with the company the longest (evidently making him think that he's the "senior loan officer") sitting behind closed doors kissing our president's ass.

they hold these meetings about 5 times a day. they both dress all fancy and act all professional and "in charge".
and i'm pretty sure they've got wonderful plans of hopefully taking over the company one day.





folks, lemme tell you how the business world works. it doesn't matter how many plans you have, how professional you act, how much ass you kiss, how many situations you manipulate, how swavay you dress, what you drive, or how you appear to the guy in charge.
what matters is the $$$. what matters are the numbers. bring in the deals. do your job. don't be a ****in drama queen. give it your best. be honest and carry yourself with integrity.

who brings in the money will decide the fate because at that point, you are truely in the position of power through negotiation.

so go ahead fellas, keep kissin ass and appearing useful. i'll keep bringin in the dollars, and when the time's right, i'll dance. until then, i'll just amuse myself by watching you think you're getting somewhere.


and to anyone who thinks they're gonna get ahead in your job by those means, you better hope you don't have someone like me in your office.

Well said.

I thought this thread was gonna be about Creed.....

ba dum dum ching

your right purity.check this out.i used to work for a big car outfit around here selling cars.there was 6 salesman including myself, the general manager, and the finance manager.there were 2 12 hour days and the rest were 9 hour days.we all got new demos.
now, there was one dude that was there longer than us but he was a ****in machine.he sold 18-20 cars every month.you better believe that he set his own rules.
there were sales meetings that we all had to attend. except him.he got first choice on the demo, first choice on vacation.he ran the ****in show cause he made the deals.it's just like you said purity.the business may be different, but they work on the same principles$$$$$$$

exactly. but it's always fun to watch the others try to kiss ass to the top.

Man, depends on the situation. Sales are one area that is different to just about any other because it's all about revenue generation.

Other departments it's a different kettle of fish where corporate ass kissing can, does and WILL get you promoted. The only consolation is that eventually people see you for what you are and you will get streamlined and shafted into another area.

Astro and I have a good story about one company we worked with where we had a department manager who came from a very non-technical background, to a senior support tech, to a tech support manager, to a call centre manager and now a provisioning manager, all by lying and weaselling his way to the top. The irony is has carved out his own niche and people have defined him by this point, so he will never move out of that position within the company - he'd be stupid if he did!

- The Jake

Some companies will promote you based on skill and talent. If this is true, consider yourself blessed because you work in an honest company.

- THe Jake

Originally posted by Squezze
I thought this thread was gonna be about Creed.....

ba dum dum ching

you cute little dirt bag. LOL@Squezze!!:lol3:



Purity- **** company ass kissers. I got them here, the only problem is...... these ass kissers are personal best friends with the Pres.

time to make a company switch...

Dogg what sort of work do you do?

- The Jake

jake,
that's why i can't do anything but sales. in my opinon, sales is simply paying you for being you. now that's ****in rockstar **** right there brotha!

Originally posted by Purity
jake,
that's why i can't do anything but sales. in my opinon, sales is simply paying you for being you. now that's ****in rockstar **** right there brotha!

Several years ago, my original plan was to do high end tech work.
There will always be an need for people to do the work (ie. meet the lies I mean PROMISES made by sales reps hehe).

So I focused on Network Engineering with a goal to move out of a customer focused position to one where I would never ever have to speak to a customer. Ever. (Did I say ever?). I knew I could do the work but it wasn't my passion I guess. I enjoy tech stuff, but did I want to do it for a job?

Then in the past 4 months some wierd things happened (apart from getting married).

I got these four books:
"Rich Dad, Poor Dad"
"Retire Young and Retire Rich" by Robert T. Kiyosaki
"Multiple Streams of Income."
and "Multiple Streams of Internet Income." by Robert G. Allen.

I read what they had to say about business, finance, investments, etc. and I realised that what they said made sense to me. It all fell into place what I wanted to do. So the past few months I've been reading, researching, learning, trying to map out my (and Arju's) financial plan and future and work out what we're gonna do, how we're gonna do it and so forth.

The irony of it is, that Sales is the key to it all.

The one industry I've been avoiding is the key to it all. It's funny because before I left, my old training partner used to be a very well paid sales rep for this company. He tried to get me in there but I was still reluctant to deal with people. I mean I can deal with people but for the most part, I rarely like them.... a bad trait I got I guess....

But yeah you're right Tony. It's the only job that really pays you to be YOU.

- The Jake

Originally posted by Squezze
I thought this thread was gonna be about Creed.....

ba dum dum ching

Ok you little **** face. I have had it with you. I don't care if its abusing my power, I don't care if I take any **** from it or if I even get removed as a MOD. I am sick of your personal attacks on me and then hiding behind the fact your doing nothing wrong.

I won't take **** from you any more. Remember that you little puss filled **** bag.

you've got two books left jake. the first one is called "who stole my cheese."
it'll take you one night to read.

at that point, there's no need to read anything else. sales is only successful with balls and persistance. you don't learn that **** from books. go out there and do it. once you do then i'll tell you about the 2nd book.

I'd read "SalesDogs" by Blair Singer. :)

Yeah I will prolly borrow that book if I can.

Sales yeah I know. I got a lot of people who tell me I should do it. I might when I go back to America. I might do it here but I get the feeling in this department thinks I'm too valuable to let go.

That said, my contract expires in Feb with a clause to renegotiate. Mmmm....

We'll see, basically until I get back to America with Arju however, my career and my plans are more or less on hold.....

- The Jake

**** that. pratice!!!

call up fast food joints and convince them that they're food made you sick last night and you want your money back or meal replaced.
you can eat free and practice your skillz. i lived homeless for 6 months and ate like a king when i was 16.

Originally posted by Creed
Ok you little **** face. I have had it with you. I don't care if its abusing my power, I don't care if I take any **** from it or if I even get removed as a MOD. I am sick of your personal attacks on me and then hiding behind the fact your doing nothing wrong.

I won't take **** from you any more. Remember that you little puss filled **** bag.


LOL! Stop pretending like you have a backbone. Go cry to your mom, ****head. You can abuse your power or whatever you just said, but the fact remains that my balls are permanently on your chin until I decide to remove them. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Squezze
LOL! Stop pretending like you have a backbone. Go cry to your mom, ****head. You can abuse your power or whatever you just said, but the fact remains that my balls are permanently on your chin until I decide to remove them. Deal with it.

The day your balls are on my chin is the day you matter more than I do. That will never happen. You could stop posting tomorroow and no one would really give a ****. Other than a few people that don't matter. You don't matter

Ok children play nice....

PS: What's with the animosity here?

- The Jake

Originally posted by Creed
The day your balls are on my chin is the day you matter more than I do. That will never happen. You could stop posting tomorroow and no one would really give a ****. Other than a few people that don't matter. You don't matter

Oh how little you really know. For your information dude, when I left here about 85% of the people who post here wanted me to come back. I guess none of them "matter", huh? I'm not gonna argue who "matters" more, cause it's about the lamest arguement ever. You should learn to get your facts straight, that way you wouldn't look like such a choad. My balls. Your chin. Deal with it.


And get real man. You're a mod. You have NO power here. You've got about as much power as I do, **** smoker.

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