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boxing4ever
04-01-2007, 06:16 PM
ok what do you guys think about this? what advantages do boxes have and what advantages do weightlifters have in a street fight?

McAlister
04-01-2007, 06:28 PM
Boxers know how to throw a punch correctly. (which will do more damage than a wild looping punch)

Boxer will give opponant only 1/2 a target (standing sided up, oppose to squaring up)

****, the list goes on... Only thing I can say a weight lifter will have is strength

platinummatt!
04-01-2007, 06:43 PM
Sorta talking about this today.

If the weightlifter has no knowledge of fighting.

And the boxers good.

The boxers gonna kain the dude I recon.

Maybe the bodybuilder will have good strength if he grabs hold and grapples.

But the boxer could jab and move

IronNick
04-01-2007, 06:47 PM
simply put: if a big weight lifter grabs hold of a boxer, its over then and there... but if the boxer avoids his grasp, he will tire the body builder out..

PunchDrunk
04-01-2007, 07:04 PM
Sorta talking about this today.

If the weightlifter has no knowledge of fighting.

And the boxers good.

The boxers gonna kain the dude I recon.

Maybe the bodybuilder will have good strength if he grabs hold and grapples.

But the boxer could jab and move

So, are we talking weightlifters or bodybuilders? BIG, BIG difference.

platinummatt!
04-01-2007, 07:12 PM
Oh right. Yeh good point I thought he ment bodybuilder

Southpaw Stinger
04-01-2007, 09:51 PM
ok what do you guys think about this? what advantages do boxes have and what advantages do weightlifters have in a street fight?

well for a start boxers can fight, that seems like a big advantage to me.

platinummatt!
04-01-2007, 10:12 PM
well for a start boxers can fight, that seems like a big advantage to me.

lol.... swish

DA1CATAS
04-01-2007, 10:51 PM
well for a start boxers can fight, that seems like a big advantage to me.

lol.. sounds good to me...


To be honest... As long as the boxer has a good chin even a looping punch can be taken.. That really limits the "Assumingly" stronger weightlifter to Grab and slam without being knocked out or stunned on the way in.


Just think.. if you know the guy your fighting on the street doesn't know how to box... Your confidence level rises... And if your a decent boxer like myself this guy better take out a loan and have a full bank account because I'mma make him pay for every slow punch, hand kept low, incorrect headmovement, nd technical mistake he makes agaisnt me while im on the outside.

and if he grabs I turn into Mike golata lol

Trick
04-01-2007, 10:51 PM
well for a start boxers can fight, that seems like a big advantage to me.

hahaha ya

Besides big musclebound fools THINK they can fight well, which is another advantage to being a boxer, you know that you can get your ass kicked, which means you probably won't...

Kayo
04-02-2007, 12:08 AM
alot of bodybuilders arent actual athletes...

eazy_mas
04-02-2007, 04:18 AM
i heard sometimes if very muscler guy like a bodybuilder punch it could tear some of his arm's muslce

Darkstranger
04-02-2007, 07:38 AM
A boxer punches with speed, power and accuaray! Bodybuilders are slow, stiff and tend not to be very athletic!

me2007
04-02-2007, 07:41 AM
bodybuilders rely on intimidation and few are effective at fighting. It only takes 4lbs of frontal pressure on the chin to knock someone out, regardless of the size of their biceps....you can`t train your chin.

boxer wins easily....a good boxer that is...anyone who has boxed could call themselves a boxer.

platinummatt!
04-02-2007, 07:46 AM
bodybuilders rely on intimidation and few are effective at fighting. It only takes 4lbs of frontal pressure on the chin to knock someone out, regardless of the size of their biceps....you can`t train your chin.

boxer wins easily....a good boxer that is...anyone who has boxed could call themselves a boxer.


4lbs? I think it must be more than that. Anyway, different people have different ability in taking shots.

4lbs is nothing, it must be more than that.

Also, training your neck is ment to help you chin

me2007
04-02-2007, 09:51 AM
4lbs? I think it must be more than that. Anyway, different people have different ability in taking shots.

4lbs is nothing, it must be more than that.

Also, training your neck is ment to help you chin

4lbs applied to the point of your chin with the force pointing toward the back of the head is supposed to cause a knockout. The jaw will cause this..

You can be clubbed around the head or side of the head with much more force but if you take a straight punch right on the chin your brain will rattle around like a bee in a jar...

Thats why you should always tuck your chin in

as someone said previously, alot of bb's aren`t athletes....many are just plain unhealthy and are on course for an early grave.

BigRiffyJones
04-02-2007, 10:21 AM
exactly. A weightlifter (not a bodybuilder though) who does cardio, thats a different story, e.g a football player. I still vote boxer by KO tho, most football players have no technique and would just rely on running at the boxer (any decent boxer would throw a right hand into their face as they do this)

platinummatt!
04-02-2007, 10:38 AM
4lbs... I seriously doubt it man.

You can see boxers get tagged with hard punches and not go down.


Theyre getting hit by wwaaaaayyy more than 4lbs

DoctorKillJoy
04-02-2007, 10:55 AM
How hard can the average puncher hit in terms of lbs? Maybe its more than it sounds... is that lbs per square inch?

platinummatt!
04-02-2007, 11:01 AM
Alot more than 4lbs man. On fight science the boxer was ment to hit with like 1000lbs

BigRiffyJones
04-02-2007, 11:27 AM
yeh i saw that. I doubt the 4lbs is credible. either way it depends on the boxer, not all chins are the same, the idea that they are is ridiculous.

mgkirkpatrick
04-02-2007, 12:41 PM
bodybuilders rely on intimidation and few are effective at fighting. It only takes 4lbs of frontal pressure on the chin to knock someone out, regardless of the size of their biceps....you can`t train your chin.

boxer wins easily....a good boxer that is...anyone who has boxed could call themselves a boxer.


actually size does have a lot to do with how well you take a punch. your body absorbs it and the greater the size the better.

in a street fight i doubt very many of the good boxers on this site could take my brothers mate who is on the australian weight lifting team. just too strong and definitely an ahtlete.

in most cases tho the boxer is going to beat a guy whose only advantage is the amount of weight he can lift.. its not even directly proportional to punching power.

Southpaw16
04-02-2007, 03:51 PM
simply put: if a big weight lifter grabs hold of a boxer, its over then and there... but if the boxer avoids his grasp, he will tire the body builder out..

It isn't that simple. Weight lifters don't know what to do when they grab hold of a boxer. Keep in mind we are talking about just a weightlifter. He isn't some judo or wrestling expert. Is he going to bear hug the boxer to death? Plus boxers are used to being in fights. I know that a boxing match is definately not the same thing as a street fight, but boxers are still used to being in danger while the other guy is trying to hurt them. A weightlifter would just freeze up in a real fight after being hit once or twice.

Southpaw16
04-02-2007, 03:59 PM
actually size does have a lot to do with how well you take a punch. your body absorbs it and the greater the size the better.

in a street fight i doubt very many of the good boxers on this site could take my brothers mate who is on the australian weight lifting team. just too strong and definitely an ahtlete.

in most cases tho the boxer is going to beat a guy whose only advantage is the amount of weight he can lift.. its not even directly proportional to punching power.

That depends. Maybe not if your brother's friend is the type who gets in regular street or bar fights, then it might be difficult for most boxers to beat him. Particularly the smaller fighters. If not, then most of the good boxers on the sight could probably take him believe it or not. Just the general environment of a fight would be too foreign to him and taking a punch to the face is not an easy thing if your not used to it. You might picture him taking 3-4 punches to the face and just tearing through them and throwing the boxer to the floor, but that wouldn't happen if the guy isn't a fighter.

paul750
04-02-2007, 04:16 PM
It's hard to say as there could be so many different circumstances. The boxer would win more often than not in a simple stand up fight because the weightlifter simply wouldn't have the skills to deal with it; he would be essentially fighting the other guy's fight, so of course he'd be in trouble. On the other hand, if a much stronger man got hold on a smaller boxer, he could pin him down and possibly choke him out, I don't think he'd even need to have grappling skills to do that, because there comes a point when someone is so much stronger than the other guy that he can totally overwhelm him.

Ok, some guy mentioned that there's a big difference between bodybuilders and weightlifters, and there is. Weightlifters train purely for functional strength, that's not to say bodybuilders aren't strong too, obviously they are, but theoretically, a weightlifter would be more formidable in an altercation as the strength they possess is more dynamic.

dario
04-02-2007, 04:28 PM
How can yall just assume most weightlifters can't fight, and that most are slow. I think that's very ignorant. And in a street fight, there are no rules so a boxer doesn't have the advantage; it all depends on the scenario: how much space is given, who gets the first action, size, speed, etc. You put both of them in a ring, sure the boxer will have the advantage. As for the streets, it's all game. I'm pretty sure you won't feel like you can knock out a 250-350lb weight lifter when they are standing infront of you, roid raged at the bar.

me2007
04-03-2007, 05:28 AM
hit him on the chin and he'll go to sleep like all the others.

mgkirkpatrick
04-03-2007, 09:03 AM
That depends. Maybe not if your brother's friend is the type who gets in regular street or bar fights, then it might be difficult for most boxers to beat him. Particularly the smaller fighters. If not, then most of the good boxers on the sight could probably take him believe it or not. Just the general environment of a fight would be too foreign to him and taking a punch to the face is not an easy thing if your not used to it. You might picture him taking 3-4 punches to the face and just tearing through them and throwing the boxer to the floor, but that wouldn't happen if the guy isn't a fighter.

yeah it wasnt a good example. the dudes a bouncer so he he's used to fighting but i agree 100 percent if he ws just a normal joe that happened to be strong i wouldnt mention it.

platinummatt!
04-03-2007, 10:26 AM
How can yall just assume most weightlifters can't fight, and that most are slow. I think that's very ignorant. And in a street fight, there are no rules so a boxer doesn't have the advantage; it all depends on the scenario: how much space is given, who gets the first action, size, speed, etc. You put both of them in a ring, sure the boxer will have the advantage. As for the streets, it's all game. I'm pretty sure you won't feel like you can knock out a 250-350lb weight lifter when they are standing infront of you, roid raged at the bar.

I think the idea is that the guy is a weightlifter but doesnt fight.

me2007
04-03-2007, 11:45 AM
yeah, otherwise its boxer vs boxer who is also very strong

Southpaw16
04-03-2007, 12:36 PM
In a situation where it's weightlifter versus boxer and the weight, and the level they are at in their sport is equal, then I would think boxer would win.

Take the gold medal winner at the olympics for weightlifting in any given weight division and throw him in with the gold medal winner for boxing in the same weight division and put them in a bar fight, and I'm definitely putting my money on the boxer.

This is also assuming that there bar fighting experience is the same. If the weightlifter goes and gets into bar fights every weekend and the boxer is a really technical guy who like to jab and move and doesn't ever really fight outside the ring, then it might be a different story.

The problem with this thread is that the question is kind of vague. Are we talking about big olympic weightlifter with criminal record versus beginning amateur middleweight boxer? If so then yeah, the weightlifter would win.

DoctorKillJoy
04-03-2007, 01:31 PM
In a situation where it's weightlifter versus boxer and the weight, and the level they are at in their sport is equal, then I would think boxer would win.

Take the gold medal winner at the olympics for weightlifting in any given weight division and throw him in with the gold medal winner for boxing in the same weight division and put them in a bar fight, and I'm definitely putting my money on the boxer.

This is also assuming that there bar fighting experience is the same. If the weightlifter goes and gets into bar fights every weekend and the boxer is a really technical guy who like to jab and move and doesn't ever really fight outside the ring, then it might be a different story.

The problem with this thread is that the question is kind of vague. Are we talking about big olympic weightlifter with criminal record versus beginning amateur middleweight boxer? If so then yeah, the weightlifter would win.


Plus the relative sizes of the boxer and weightlifter matter too. If you put an olympic champion strawweight boxer against a world champion power lifter I'd have to go with the lifter, but if it was a heavyweight boxer I'd probably lean that way. But we're really looking at the wrong sport. The champion badmitton player would whip both their asses anyway.

Southpaw16
04-03-2007, 03:00 PM
Plus the relative sizes of the boxer and weightlifter matter too. If you put an olympic champion strawweight boxer against a world champion power lifter I'd have to go with the lifter, but if it was a heavyweight boxer I'd probably lean that way. But we're really looking at the wrong sport. The champion badmitton player would whip both their asses anyway.

I said that the gold medal boxer would beat the gold medal power lifter, IF THEY WERE IN THE SAME WEIGHT DIVISION. Olympic power lifting also has weight divisions.

Southpaw16
04-03-2007, 03:04 PM
Plus the relative sizes of the boxer and weightlifter matter too. If you put an olympic champion strawweight boxer against a world champion power lifter I'd have to go with the lifter, but if it was a heavyweight boxer I'd probably lean that way. But we're really looking at the wrong sport. The champion badmitton player would whip both their asses anyway.

Oh, and equestrian riders are the toughest in street fights, not badminton players. They go around doing their showjumping so you think they are all rich and fancy, you underestimate them and your not really expecting anything. Next thing you know they pull and AK on your ass and start spraying bullets at you from their horse while yelling "****ing represent equestrian *****!!!!"

mgkirkpatrick
04-03-2007, 10:54 PM
the synchronised swimmers will monkey stomp your ass in unison. better recognise yo

yrrej
04-03-2007, 11:15 PM
You are kidding, right? Any boxer at a similar weight will kill a weightlifter rather easily, although the lifter will still look good lying on the tile, asphalt, or wherever he happens to go down......

MOREBASS
04-07-2007, 12:54 PM
Silly thread.


Its like asking who would fair better in a pickup basketball game...a college basketball player, or a sprinter.


I don't see the correlation between asking who win in a fight. Is a boxer not trained to fight ?

dario
04-07-2007, 01:03 PM
You are kidding, right? Any boxer at a similar weight will kill a weightlifter rather easily, although the lifter will still look good lying on the tile, asphalt, or wherever he happens to go down......

Weight lifters and body builders are two different people my friend..

Toddy
04-07-2007, 02:22 PM
boxer hands down beats a weightlifter. a boxer can keep his distance from the "stronger" weightlifter. he punch and move, slip and slide whereas the weightlifter will be lookin for a one hit knockout because he'll be thinkin more about his strenght than form. and even if the boxer does get tied up, you can still nip his ballbag

yrrej
04-07-2007, 11:56 PM
Hmmm....Boxers have usually had their chins tested, for one thing. Of course, bigger and stronger is better given equality in other facets of the game. But a boxer can generate a whole lot more power at a lighter weight than someone who doesn't know how to throw a punch. And lifting weights hasn't proven to make one's chin less vulnerable to a hard punch. So I'd give the advantage to the aggressive, hard-punching boxer. Bob Sapp comes to mind......

Golden-Gloves
04-08-2007, 04:05 AM
Boxer vs. Body Builder..

If they are both the same weight, I would put all of my money on the Boxer..

When a Body Builder trains, he isnt training for strength or speed, he is training to specifically get bigger, that is what wins shows, not strength or speed..

Body Builders build different type muscle fibers then Boxers, they build muscle fibers to be powerful, not aerobic or flexible, fast twitching... Think about it, they are lifting heavy weight pretty damn slow, thats all they are training there muscles to do, is be strong and slow..

Now think about a Boxer, he trains himself to be powerful and fast, plus with the technique and knowledge involved, with prior training and fighting experiance, he is no doubt the favorite in a Boxing Match, in a wrestling match, thats a different story.. :P