View Full Version : Amateur Debut in Two Weeks!?!?!?!


Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 02:18 AM
My gym is going to be having an amatuer boxing card open to novice and I guess is like an open card gym vs gym type thing on Sat April 15. I just found out yesterday Mar 30. I have been training in and out of the gym, mainly at home for years, never actually had sparring in a gym but Ive had LOTS of street fights and have boxed with gloves on against people instead of fighting. Ive never actually lost a fight were we squared up and fought. Ive got TONS of experience in fighting and I know its not against the same competiton as amateur boxing but I am already at the level where Im very calm and think in the fight, set up combos etc, so this isnt really going to be too new to me. I see it as Ive accomplised lots as far as streetfighting now its time to step up in class and go onto amateur boxing.

Its been my dream to box and I finally decided to get serious about it in January, the thing is that I was around 290 pounds. My whole plan was to drop to ATLEAST 200 because Im only 5'9", start amateur and go on to pro. I trained since January to get back in the swing of things and in the last week I have started to actually diet and cardio to lose weight. I weigh 255 now so itd be super heavy but Im not scared so why not do it.

the way Im looking at it though, WHY SHOULDNT I take advantage of this amateur show being at my gym. Im in better shape than Ive been in inawhile since in the last week I picked it up trying to lose the weight. Win or lose I am now and amateur boxer, and I turn 20 in May so I can say I started amateur at 19. I really would have liked to gotten myself in the abolute best shape because Ive been dreamin about this since I was six, but Im throwing my name in the hat and signing up. Im gonna get some sparring and train like a madman the next week and a half.

The only thing Im kinda worried about is the fact that I hope I can become some kind of superstar and I might jump in to soon and end up not bein ready, but **** it lets do this shit.

Feel free to share your stories of your first amateur fight, how much notice you had etc.

McAlister
04-01-2007, 02:28 AM
Good luck, only thing I can say is make sure ur conditioning is GOOD... thats the mistake I made my first fight... I started boxing in june, and did a tourney first weekend of july.... skill wise I was good to go, I outboxed my guy, and was having my way with him the first to rds..... but after that, I was DROP DEAD TIRED... i couldnt even get up out the corner for the last rd... so the other guy won, cuz I couldnt continue.......


So make sure ur stamina is good man, its no joke.. especially when you're all hyped up

-Antonio-
04-01-2007, 02:28 AM
Id say having your first amatuer fight only a week after your first spar isnt the wisest idea.

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 02:42 AM
Id say having your first amatuer fight only a week after your first spar isnt the wisest idea.


yeah but its not like Im some of these guys that need that first sparring cause theyve never hit somebody, or never been hit. Ive been punched, kicked, kneed, slapped, eyegouged, headbutted, elbowed, tackled, bitin, shot at, knives etc etc and punched, kneed, and slammed back with some big rough dudes. This is what I do, Im always ready to fight at a moments notice in the street where its bareknuckle anything goes and I dont know whats gonna happen, if its gonna be one on one or if Im gonna get jumped or if the guy has a weopon, or what he knows, or if its going to the ground, or if one of us gone die. So fighting with gloves, headgear, mouthpiece, a referee to keep shit inline, rules and no weapons should be no problem.

IronNick
04-01-2007, 02:43 AM
yeah but its not like Im some of these guys that need that first sparring cuase theyve never hit somebody, or never been hit. Ive been punched, kicked, kneed, slapped, eyegouged, headbutted, tackled, bitin, shot at, knives etc etc. This is waht I do, Im always ready to fight at a moments notice in the street where its bareknuckle anything goes and I dont know if its gonna be one on one or if Im gonna get jumped or if the guy has a weopon, or what he knows, or if its going to the ground, or if one of us gone die. So fighting with gloves, headgear, a referee to keep shit inline, rules and no weapons should be no problem.

And u cant forget about wrestling a rottweiler to the ground!

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 02:47 AM
And u cant forget about wrestling a rottweiler to the ground!

I wasnt talking about the dog when I said bitin but that too. I have 5 tooth marks from diffirant dogs, and one big mouth imprint scar on my stomach from some fool who was bitin my stomach while I was bouncing his head around with hooks. The punches knocked his head around and ended up helping his bite get deeper and deeper, almost took a chunk out. Dirty mother ****er.

Chipper
04-01-2007, 02:49 AM
Without much sparring experience you timing might be off in the fight.

Also make sure you have good stamina like McAlister said you don't want to tire out and get KO'd.

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 02:53 AM
I just hope I can get in. I went to sign in today and spar and the gym was closed for some reason. Sunday its closed for sure so Monday I will sign on and I dont know if that would be enough time because dont they have to find an opponent?? I dont really know much about amateur boxing. I love pro but I never really cared about about the ams much.

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 02:56 AM
Good luck, only thing I can say is make sure ur conditioning is GOOD... thats the mistake I made my first fight... I started boxing in june, and did a tourney first weekend of july.... skill wise I was good to go, I outboxed my guy, and was having my way with him the first to rds..... but after that, I was DROP DEAD TIRED... i couldnt even get up out the corner for the last rd... so the other guy won, cuz I couldnt continue.......


So make sure ur stamina is good man, its no joke.. especially when you're all hyped up

thanks man, see I wont be hyped up I dont think cause Im used to fightin. But it is new because it is oficail amateur boxing. We'll find out though. I normally do 30-45 minutes on the eliptical machine, today I did an hour on the eliptical machine and only ate a protein bar and some carrots, also worked 11 hours. Tommorrow Im gonna try to get some sprints going, situps, weighted shadow boxin, sledge hammer, swimming.

-Antonio-
04-01-2007, 03:06 AM
At your size you will be extremely outsized by your oponent most likely. Have you been hitting the pads and working on your slipping? The mits will tell you where your stamina is at too. Stamina would be my main concern.

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 03:18 AM
At your size you will be extremely outsized by your oponent most likely. Have you been hitting the pads and working on your slipping? The mits will tell you where your stamina is at too. Stamina would be my main concern.

yeah, Im thinking that is gonna give me the better stamina because Im in very good shape for my weight and have good speed. Ill be going against a superheavyweight novice so Im expecting some 6'4" dude thats either a fat slobb or a musclebound type, either one should gass quick. Im almost sure that the whoever it is isnt going to be faster or more experience in a fight than than me, I dont know about power, I hit pretty damn hard, but cause this is super heavy and they all should have some power and Im not a natural heavy though so well see how I take the punches. Ive been in with bigger guys before and Ive never been koed in my life, I have been dazed twice though. Onetime I was playing tackle footballl and on the kick off I ran like an animal to tackle the guy and he was running and we collide his head hit me right on the nose at full speed. The other time was in a fight and I was on all fours and got booted in the head by a guy that was 6'2'' 250, I tried to hurry up and get up to get my chain that fell off and I fell back down but got up again was clear headed.

Animal Squabbs
04-01-2007, 03:21 AM
about the pads, not really. I dont have a trainer, Merqui Sosa did hold the pads for me last week though and he was kinda going for burn out cause he just had me throw non stop basically. I was tired at the ends of the rounds but I recovered alright between rounds and thats throwin alot more punches than I will if this match goes down.

-Antonio-
04-01-2007, 03:33 AM
If you havent done a lot of pads either then I really think you will have a difficult time with your stamina. I could be wrong, but I guess you will find out.

RunW/Knives
04-01-2007, 05:17 AM
Listen.

Don't look at him in the eye.

Think that he's a guy who poaches baby seals for a living.

RunW/Knives
04-01-2007, 05:18 AM
If you havent done a lot of pads either then I really think you will have a difficult time with your stamina. I could be wrong, but I guess you will find out.

Agreed.

The full sorb of the shots on pads will wear you the **** out faster than a jarring bag or hitting a person that isn't stationary.

Isometrics IE PUSHUPS, oboy better be doing them. I have a good feeling, he'd better not make eye contact with his opponent though.

DMC
04-01-2007, 05:18 AM
Get it taped and put it up for us to see.
Good luck.



DMC:boxing:

RunW/Knives
04-01-2007, 05:21 AM
No ****ing Eye Contact. None. I think you might fold.

FIGHTING_FLIP
04-01-2007, 05:40 AM
yeh i think ima have my amateur debut in 2 weeks too

RunW/Knives
04-01-2007, 05:51 AM
yeh i think ima have my amateur debut in 2 weeks too

****ing Flip, no eye contact.

If you're a boxer first and have never been confronted, don't look at him.

mgkirkpatrick
04-01-2007, 08:13 AM
good luck man. like everyones sayin get your stamina together. u want to be moving constantly.. dont wanna get hit clean by a natural super heavy.

platinummatt!
04-01-2007, 09:22 AM
Yeah pads wear your out like ****

chuckisquik
04-01-2007, 03:24 PM
i might be in this fight................................

Southpaw16
04-01-2007, 03:25 PM
You might be able to last a few rounds hitting pads, but your inevitably going to be tired in your amateur debut just because of the nervous energy.

This might not even me an official amateur bout. Are you a registered fighter? Do you have a passbook? Even if it isn't an official amateur fight treat it like one. There is also a possibility that they might have trouble finding an opponent for you in this short amount of time. Anyways good luck.

Super_Lightweight
04-01-2007, 07:24 PM
I remember my first fight. I was nervous as you know what. Here it is:

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Super_Lightweight
04-01-2007, 07:27 PM
I was 16 back then I do believe. I mainly threw one-twos. I remeber having him on the ropes in that first round and just going crazy for 5 seconds or so. I was scared and just fighting out of fear more than anything. The fight was kind of wild and more of a brawl. The 2nd round I began to have problems breathing, and by the 3rd round I could not take in air through my nose at all. I was about to die I felt. All I could do was throw jabs. I was never so exhausted, ever, as I was in that fight. Afterwards, I could barely hold a coke can in my hand due to lack of strength.

I won the fight by decision. Never again did I do a fight without roadwork.

Trick
04-01-2007, 07:32 PM
Nice vid man, you seemed pretty quick back then.

Anyways to say what everyone else is, stamina, especially 'cause you haven't sparred a lot. If the rules are the same as here, you have 8 minutes. Maybe that doesn't sound long to you, but trust me, it is. Anyone who's been through a tough 8 min sparring session will tell you that it's plenty. And pace yourself. Honestly, if I go "all out" I can gas myself out in just the two minutes, and I'm in pretty good shape.

Also, don't get too nervous or hung up on the win, I've seen the better fighter lose plenty of times in the amateurs, it just happens.

In the end, YOU seem to think you're ready, which is the most important.

Good luck bro,
Trick

unsivilized
04-02-2007, 02:49 AM
a fight in the ring is not the same thing as a street fight. There is no way you can even begin to compare one another. ur gym should have had u sparring a while b4 ur first fight. However, that is not the circumstances. just make sure u can last 4 rnds minimum while sparring b4 you fight in the amateur league.

Darkstranger
04-02-2007, 08:06 AM
a fight in the ring is not the same thing as a street fight. There is no way you can even begin to compare one another. ur gym should have had u sparring a while b4 ur first fight. However, that is not the circumstances. just make sure u can last 4 rnds minimum while sparring b4 you fight in the amateur league.

I was thinking along the same lines too. You might be a good street fighter and fought other good street fighters, but boxing is different. It's governed by rules and beating an opponent within those rules is a lot more difficult and requires more skill and technique.

But good luck anyways, post the result after!

Big Papi
04-02-2007, 12:15 PM
I remember my first amateur fight, I was scared as hell. I weighed in at about 260 and the guy I fought was about 295 if I remember correctly. He had two inches in height on me (him 6'8", me 6'6") and he had a hell of a reach advantage. I got my ass kicked the first two rounds but then I came to the conclusion that since I was still standing, I could box with him and then came the third round where I KO'd his ass in the first 20 seconds with a right uppercut. That feeling of the connection and knowing you just won is the best feeling I have ever experienced. The only reason I beat the guy was because he punched himself out and was gassed. Choose your punches wisely and don't throw any that don't have a purpose. Good luck man.

Big Papi

Animal Squabbs
04-04-2007, 04:13 AM
You might be able to last a few rounds hitting pads, but your inevitably going to be tired in your amateur debut just because of the nervous energy.

This might not even me an official amateur bout. Are you a registered fighter? Do you have a passbook? Even if it isn't an official amateur fight treat it like one. There is also a possibility that they might have trouble finding an opponent for you in this short amount of time. Anyways good luck.

yeah, I have a passbook. It should be official I guess cause the trainers keep asking me if I have my book.

As far as the sparring and conditioning, I just sparred for the first time ever and we went 4 rounds at a high pace and I didnt get too gassed and thats with no padwork, no trainer, and getting off an 11 hour day at work with food in my stomach and very little conditioning trainin.

LightsOut Le
04-05-2007, 01:44 AM
you been boxing for how long?
just curious.

Animal Squabbs
04-05-2007, 02:21 AM
you been boxing for how long?
just curious.

well when I was little my dads freind had a son who was a 6'8" white guy that my dad helped get into pro boxing, so I was hanging around the gym since then and eventually started wanting to do it. I technically started around 12. For the most part though, I have been working my self, Ive had two trainers but one was only three sessions and the other was only about two months. Six differant gyms closed on me. So basically my dad showed me the basics and Ive been training myself at home and in and out of the gym since I was 12. I had lots of fights and slapboxing to try to make up for sparring.

Undefeated
04-05-2007, 03:57 AM
well when I was little my dads freind had a son who was a 6'8" white guy that my dad helped get into pro boxing, so I was hanging around the gym since then and eventually started wanting to do it. I technically started around 12. For the most part though, I have been working my self, Ive had two trainers but one was only three sessions and the other was only about two months. Six differant gyms closed on me. So basically my dad showed me the basics and Ive been training myself at home and in and out of the gym since I was 12. I had lots of fights and slapboxing to try to make up for sparring.



Remind me of myself. Slapboxing and shit. I did alot of streetboxing also. Im finally in a gym. Doing me, I just got these papers to fill out. My passport to box. Basically to be registered. Hopefully i'll find a good trainer and try to make some moves.. It sucks though. I went 10 rounds on the heavy bag today... Now my wrists feel ****ed up... Probaly sore.. My left hand was sore at first.. Now they both are! Damn.. Ima take 2 days off.. Im mad though.. I don't wanna take a day off!!!!

Animal Squabbs
04-05-2007, 04:02 AM
Remind me of myself. Slapboxing and shit. I did alot of streetboxing also. Im finally in a gym. Doing me, I just got these papers to fill out. My passport to box. Basically to be registered. Hopefully i'll find a good trainer and try to make some moves.. It sucks though. I went 10 rounds on the heavy bag today... Now my wrists feel ****ed up... Probaly sore.. My left hand was sore at first.. Now they both are! Damn.. Ima take 2 days off.. Im mad though.. I don't wanna take a day off!!!!

i think I broke my right hand awhile back (about 5 months). I had a canvas back filled with three bricks that I hit for years and I hit it wrong and a shockwave of pain went through my hand. It still hurts now, my wrist pops when I move it, it hurts still to do pushups, I used to get these weird warm sensations on the back of my hand, I cant move it around as much, not as strong in certain positions, sometimes it hurts hittin the bag, and theres an odd bump on the back of my hand that isnt on my other hand.

I didnt have insurance so I never got it looked at. its too late now probably. Same with my left foot, I was chasing after somebody who stole something (I used to work loss provention) and my foot came down side ways and I heard a pop and I couldnt walk on it for a few days, it hurt for months and there was a weird warm feeling and swelling, it doesnt hurt now but there is a bump.

Undefeated
04-05-2007, 04:06 AM
i think I broke my right hand awhile back (about 5 months). I had a canvas back filled with three bricks that I hit for years and I hit it wrong and a shockwave of pain went through my hand. It still hurts now, my wrist pops when I move it, it hurts still to do pushups, I cant move it around as much, not as strong in certain positions, sometimes it hurts hittin the bag, and theres an odd bump on the back of my hand that isnt on my other hand.


I hate the feeling. I was getting frustrated at the gym.. I see everyone throwing power shots with there left hand and I can't even do it without it hurting. I mean I still through it.. I just don't wanna damage it more than it is you feel me? The bag I be hitting is ok. Thing is im used to throwing alot of body shots.. and at the bottom of the bag, it's solid for some reason. I hit that shit mad hard as soon as the bell rang. I think that's where I ****ed my wrist up.

Animal Squabbs
04-05-2007, 04:08 AM
I hate the feeling. I was getting frustrated at the gym.. I see everyone throwing power shots with there left hand and I can't even do it without it hurting. I mean I still through it.. I just don't wanna damage it more than it is you feel me? The bag I be hitting is ok. Thing is im used to throwing alot of body shots.. and at the bottom of the bag, it's solid for some reason. I hit that shit mad hard as soon as the bell rang. I think that's where I ****ed my wrist up.


yeah, becareful with that shit man. Trust me, you dont wanna get what happened to me. I couldnt train for weeks cause the first right hand I would throw once it hit there would be a shockwave of pain in my hand and I would be doubled over cause it hurt like hell and have to stop.

I know what you mean about the bottom of the bag. Ive had the brick bag and I had a body protector tied around a real thick tree. They are as solid as can be and I hit them for YEARS. Now at the gym its great cause everybody complains about how hard the bags are and that they are crappy and like hittin a wall. To me they are nothing and I wail on the bottoms like nothing.

Undefeated
04-05-2007, 04:21 AM
yeah, becareful with that shit man. Trust me, you dont wanna get what happened to me. I couldnt train for weeks cause the first right hand I would throw once it hit there would be a shockwave of pain in my hand and I would be doubled over cause it hurt like hell and have to stop.

I know what you mean about the bottom of the bag. Ive had the brick bag and I had a body protector tied around a real thick tree. They are as solid as can be and I hit them for YEARS. Now at the gym its great cause everybody complains about how hard the bags are and that they are crappy and like hittin a wall. To me they are nothing and I wail on the bottoms like nothing.

Yea man.. That bag sucks.. It's because everyone else uses the other backs.. Theres one huge ass bag.. Looks like 200 pounds or some shit.. and the rest are the same.. around 80 or so. Theres one that is like 60 pounds I think.. Im not really sure.. But everyone be using them shits.. and leave me with the rock bottom one. I noticed also that everyone around my weight have smaller gloves.. They look like 12 Oz or so.. Probaly 10.. Im over here using 16 Oz and shit. It's all good though.. I get a good work out everyday. These 16 Oz are gonna feel like 2 Oz gloves once I get used to it and fight! I just hope my wrist heals up. The bags at my gym are ok though.. theres like 10 of them.

Animal Squabbs
04-06-2007, 03:51 AM
Im not doin it guys. I wanted too, I even ordered a competion headgear and outfit and all kinds of other shit and was trying to get alot of sparring and everything, but today I talked with Merqui Sosa, another trainer, and the owner of the gym. Ine of the main reasons I wanted to do it was because I thought it was gonna be a one time oppurtunity at the gym and that I couldnt miss it, the owner said they are going to start doing it every month. Sosa was telling me its too short notcie and that Im not ready cause I havent worked with a trainer and I couldnt do it if no one is in my corner. The other trainer was sayin that Im good and could do it, itd be better to do it at heavyweight instead of super heavy, the owner said theres no rush and that I should have a trainer.

I think now I might not go to the boxing gym as much and focus more on losing the weight for now. Then go back in better shape and definatly not 260 pounds since Im only between 5'7" and 5'9"

LightsOut Le
04-06-2007, 04:00 AM
not surprised bitch

Animal Squabbs
04-06-2007, 04:05 AM
not surprised bitch


I went to the owner to ask him if Im just supposed to show up or if they are gonna tell me if they have an opponent for me. He asked me who I was training with and when I said no one he b asically said I needed one. Sosa said it is too short notice cause he hasnt been workin with me. So I really dont have an option.

PunchDrunk
04-06-2007, 08:46 AM
Why does this surprise you? If you've been around gyms and boxing for so long, and your father's even a trainer, you might have picked up on how things work by now?

Animal Squabbs
04-06-2007, 04:40 PM
Why does this surprise you? If you've been around gyms and boxing for so long, and your father's even a trainer, you might have picked up on how things work by now?


My dad isnt a trainer, he just helped the guy. He called up Gene Kilroy and showed him a tpe of the guy and got a friend to train him and Eddie Mustafa also trained him. I havent really been in gyms that long, Id go for a couple months and then theyd close. When I did go I never talked to people, Id go in already wrapped up and ready and just start working in and then leave. I know all about the pros but I never really cared or payed attention to the amateurs.

mgkirkpatrick
04-07-2007, 01:09 AM
man id just stay at the boxing gym to lose weight and improve at the same time. not many better cardio workouts then boxing. keep punches and the pounds will disappear.:boxing: