View Full Version : Well I just got my ass kicked out of the superheavyweight/heavyweight division


-Antonio-
03-21-2007, 10:43 PM
Ive done controlled sparring before with a guy with only a month more experience than me. So this was my first full contact spar, and I got stomped. Im 5'8 225 with 3 months experience the other guy is 6'4 about 220 and had a couple amatuer fights.

I kept trying to slip punches, but he kept his distance and beat the **** out of me. I pushed him to the corner a few times after eating several shots, and I got in some body shots, but all he had to do was cover up and throw in an uppercut. The punches come a lot faster than I expected. I was like Rocky Balboa in there sometimes, just getting belted with shots. They didnt even hurt, but I got stunned a couple of times. I dont know I just didnt know what to do in there. I tried to throw punches, but I couldnt get within reach.

It definitely left a bad taste in my mouth (as well as some blood) And I never want to feel that way again. I felt helpless and there were about 20 boxers watching, ohhing and aweing at the sight of me getting crushed. My pride was hurt bad. Im brushing it off though, and am going to try even harder to get better and drop weight. People asked me if I was going to quit. **** that, I dont see how anybody can quit after that. I would never forgive myself.

Nacho_Analstain
03-21-2007, 10:47 PM
good man,i was reading that thinking you was gonna quit,he was more in shape and had experience,dont let it hurt your pride,think of it as a learning experience

BrooklynBomber
03-21-2007, 10:47 PM
Happened to me quite a few times, its like a wake up call to work harder. It does happen a lot when you are new to boxing, as I seen you are.
I remember sparring a guy who was 40 pounds heavier than me but he was inactive for a long time and I thought I could simply outspeed him and use the angles.... well the guy beat the **** out of me to the point that my headgear turned around.

phallus
03-21-2007, 10:52 PM
Happened to me quite a few times, its like a wake up call to work harder. It does happen a lot when you are new to boxing, as I seen you are.
I remember sparring a guy who was 40 pounds heavier than me but he was inactive for a long time and I thought I could simply outspeed him and use the angles.... well the guy beat the **** out of me to the point that my headgear turned around.

same thing happened to me... it just made me mad, i went back to the gym and trained harder

Antonio, u have to start preparing more for fighting tall guys. in your weight div everybody will be taller than u. i was a 5'9" middleweight fighting 6" skinny guys. i liked it actually, i liked hitting those long bodies

BrooklynBomber
03-21-2007, 10:55 PM
same thing happened to me... it just made me mad, i went back to the gym and trained harder

Antonio, u have to start preparing more for fighting tall guys. in your weight div everybody will be taller than u. i was a 5'9" middleweight fighting 6" skinny guys. i liked it actually, i liked hitting those long bodies

Yeah, no matter how hard I was getting **** beat out of me, it would only make me mad as hell to train harder, too bad I did not know much about overtraining and injuries that come with it.

-Antonio-
03-21-2007, 10:58 PM
Yeah I already did some shadow boxing in my livingroom. I was and am still pissed.

Verstyle
03-21-2007, 10:58 PM
well it happens like that in sparring sometimes,u wont win all of your spars,just gotta look at your mistakes and correct them.

phallus
03-21-2007, 11:02 PM
well it happens like that in sparring sometimes,u wont win all of your spars,just gotta look at your mistakes and correct them.

i learned more from my mistakes sometimes, than from anything else

DA1CATAS
03-22-2007, 11:19 AM
How many miles do you run a day? (or when you run how many?) The time?

How many punches are you throwing during your sparring sessions? (how many rounds)

you need to get down to atleast 200 I say while you spar... and thats if your hitting with Great force,... if your 225 at 5'8 you might wanna campaign at 175 if your seriously trying to fight.

If your getting hit with uppercuts when you dig to the body the problem might be that your throwing a lil wide. Its an illusion that your hitting harder by pulling so far back...Try to shorten them and be a lil more percise.

Your gonna need good headmovement at this height being 225 because most people are gonna have the advantage to shoot down at you. Build your neck up as much as possible. Thats gonna be KEY for you if you wanna stay above 160.. which is where your gonna be for a while.

Your key punches are gonna be Hooks...Your Key area will Be the body.. thats all apparent. So when your working are put some emphasis on this training. Jabs are always important but they are mainly just going to be your key to the inside.

Uppercuts and jabs are gonna be your main problem... Meaning the main punch that will be thrown at you... so you should always expect them.

I know i threw alot at you for you only being 3 months but its all Right...

Just work on your endurance and stamina extremenly hard.. they're gonna be your best friend since your just begining.
Hope everything starts to look good for you.

CATASTROPHE


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potatoes
03-22-2007, 01:04 PM
Ive done controlled sparring before with a guy with only a month more experience than me. So this was my first full contact spar, and I got stomped. Im 5'8 225 with 3 months experience the other guy is 6'4 about 220 and had a couple amatuer fights.

I kept trying to slip punches, but he kept his distance and beat the **** out of me. I pushed him to the corner a few times after eating several shots, and I got in some body shots, but all he had to do was cover up and throw in an uppercut. The punches come a lot faster than I expected. I was like Rocky Balboa in there sometimes, just getting belted with shots. They didnt even hurt, but I got stunned a couple of times. I dont know I just didnt know what to do in there. I tried to throw punches, but I couldnt get within reach.

It definitely left a bad taste in my mouth (as well as some blood) And I never want to feel that way again. I felt helpless and there were about 20 boxers watching, ohhing and aweing at the sight of me getting crushed. My pride was hurt bad. Im brushing it off though, and am going to try even harder to get better and drop weight. People asked me if I was going to quit. **** that, I dont see how anybody can quit after that. I would never forgive myself.




It is not common to see men weighing 225 who are only 5'8," or rather, it is not common to see it in boxing. Would it be rude to ask why your weight is so high? Once you achieve boxing shape I have a suspicion that your weight will drop substantially. No need to have a weight goal, just get in shape. Nevertheless, since you are probably bulky by nature, your goal should be to learn how to fight small. Find a trainer who knows how to teach you these things then spend the many months and years to learn the proper skills.

-Antonio-
03-22-2007, 01:31 PM
Well I have a naturally bigger build than most people. Just to give an example when my coach was looking for a sparring partner the other coaches asked what my weight was "about 180?" he said. I laughed and told him the truth 225, and they gave me a weird look like "you're ****ed". I wouldnt say I have bad eating habits, but I havent been on a strict diet either. I've started that today because like I said before I dont want to have to be in with guys so much taller.

-Antonio-
03-22-2007, 01:41 PM
How many miles do you run a day? (or when you run how many?) The time?

How many punches are you throwing during your sparring sessions? (how many rounds)

you need to get down to atleast 200 I say while you spar... and thats if your hitting with Great force,... if your 225 at 5'8 you might wanna campaign at 175 if your seriously trying to fight.

If your getting hit with uppercuts when you dig to the body the problem might be that your throwing a lil wide. Its an illusion that your hitting harder by pulling so far back...Try to shorten them and be a lil more percise.

Your gonna need good headmovement at this height being 225 because most people are gonna have the advantage to shoot down at you. Build your neck up as much as possible. Thats gonna be KEY for you if you wanna stay above 160.. which is where your gonna be for a while.

Your key punches are gonna be Hooks...Your Key area will Be the body.. thats all apparent. So when your working are put some emphasis on this training. Jabs are always important but they are mainly just going to be your key to the inside.

Uppercuts and jabs are gonna be your main problem... Meaning the main punch that will be thrown at you... so you should always expect them.

I know i threw alot at you for you only being 3 months but its all Right...

Just work on your endurance and stamina extremenly hard.. they're gonna be your best friend since your just begining.
Hope everything starts to look good for you.

CATASTROPHE


when people come with problems try to help them out not just comment. 1

Thanks for the comments. I dont run long distance as much because of shin splints, but I run a mile everyday in about 8 minutes. Not running for time, but its a good jog. And I've recently been doing interval training. I do sprints, and I do it on the stairmaster. My stamina is actually decent for my size. I guess I should throw in more cardio for sake of losing weight though? Im going to start a strict diet today. I didnt get a lot of punches off in the sparring session because I was lost and afraid to throw to be honest. Once I started to whiff on a couple of punches, I might have paniced. When I got inside I threw a lot though. Im pretty convinced I just need to drop the weight.

potatoes
03-22-2007, 01:48 PM
Well I have a naturally bigger build than most people. Just to give an example when my coach was looking for a sparring partner the other coaches asked what my weight was "about 180?" he said. I laughed and told him the truth 225, and they gave me a weird look like "you're ****ed". I wouldnt say I have bad eating habits, but I havent been on a strict diet either. I've started that today because like I said before I dont want to have to be in with guys so much taller.



If you are "naturally bigger than most people" then you can expect that most of your opponents will be at least 3 or 4 inches taller than you. When you come right down to it, doesn't matter whether it is 3 or 4 inches or 13 or 14 inches. If you have to learn how to fight small, that is what you have to do. There is no other choice. If you have the physical talent boxing is still a tough sport, but the toughest part of all is making the mental adjustment.

Kayo
03-22-2007, 04:07 PM
Are you in shape at 225?...like do u have a visible six pack or no

-Antonio-
03-22-2007, 04:41 PM
Are you in shape at 225?...like do u have a visible six pack or no

lol naw, Im a fat yank pretty much right now. But at 185 I will be fit because I have big shoulders and legs, and thats still heavyweight right? Id have to work REALLY hard to get down to 174 or whatever the weight is for light heavy. Either way I need to drop weight, and work on fighting small. It just took me getting in there with a bigger guy to realize that.

Chipper
03-22-2007, 04:43 PM
185 would be cruiserweight

175 Light Heavy

Exige Jr
03-22-2007, 05:26 PM
lol naw, Im a fat yank pretty much right now.
Haha, I lol'd at that.

Hitman932
03-22-2007, 06:59 PM
lol naw, Im a fat yank pretty much right now. But at 185 I will be fit because I have big shoulders and legs, and thats still heavyweight right? Id have to work REALLY hard to get down to 174 or whatever the weight is for light heavy. Either way I need to drop weight, and work on fighting small. It just took me getting in there with a bigger guy to realize that.

cruiserweight is 200 pounds, light heavy is 175

i dont know about amateur weight classes though im just getting started myself and havent evan sparred yet... ive gotten myself down from 235 to 195 and im 6'3, it took me about 4 months

potatoes
03-23-2007, 02:37 PM
lol naw, Im a fat yank pretty much right now. But at 185 I will be fit because I have big shoulders and legs, and thats still heavyweight right? Id have to work REALLY hard to get down to 174 or whatever the weight is for light heavy. Either way I need to drop weight, and work on fighting small. It just took me getting in there with a bigger guy to realize that.



Don't worry about your weight, just get in proper boxing shape. It is at your natural fighting weight you will find the best balance between speed and power. Not only that, you will feel better too.

Kayo
03-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Don't worry about your weight, just get in proper boxing shape. It is at your natural fighting weight you will find the best balance between speed and power. Not only that, you will feel better too.

finaly a post i agree with you, dont have a goal weight just train hard and let your body change and when your in good shape then you'll see what weight your at