View Full Version : how do you think Teofilo Stevenson would've done as a pro?


ceboxer15
03-19-2007, 08:09 PM
first of all, he had great skills, he was like Ali, he had the speed of a lightweight and the body of a heavyweight, he also had great power. what if he turned during the divisions toughest era: the 70's? Could he be a worthy contender or even champion. He was actually offered a deal to fight Ali in his pro debut for the heavywieght title, but refused. If he didn't refuse, he could've been the second man to fight for the title in his pro debut, the first being Pete Rademacher who fought Floyd Patterson in his pro debut for the title. Anyway, I think he could've been a worthy contender, but I can't see him beating the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Norton. He would've had a decent chance aginst them, but he wouldn't beat them, maybe he could've been champ in the late 70's/early 80's, who knows? your thoughts?

BrooklynBomber
03-19-2007, 08:20 PM
first of all, he had great skills, he was like Ali, he had the speed of a lightweight and the body of a heavyweight, he also had great power. what if he turned during the divisions toughest era: the 70's? Could he be a worthy contender or even champion. He was actually offered a deal to fight Ali in his pro debut for the heavywieght title, but refused. If he didn't refuse, he could've been the second man to fight for the title in his pro debut, the first being Pete Rademacher who fought Floyd Patterson in his pro debut for the title. Anyway, I think he could've been a worthy contender, but I can't see him beating the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Norton. He would've had a decent chance aginst them, but he wouldn't beat them, maybe he could've been champ in the late 70's/early 80's, who knows? your thoughts?

These two are contradictions.
Oh, I think he would have gotten knocked out rather fast.

jackedblackcop
03-19-2007, 08:21 PM
10 ten p4p ATG

ceboxer15
03-19-2007, 08:29 PM
These two are contradictions.
Oh, I think he would have gotten knocked out rather fast.

i didn't mean he could match up with Ali, I meant his fighting style was similar, but of course Ali was better, and Ali would defentily KO him, no doubt.

Ishak Pasha
03-19-2007, 09:09 PM
he would get wrecked...easy as that.

BrooklynBomber
03-19-2007, 09:23 PM
i didn't mean he could match up with Ali, I meant his fighting style was similar, but of course Ali was better, and Ali would defentily KO him, no doubt.

I meant that being like Ali and being technically sound is a contradiction.
Hence, I meant that Ali was not the greatest technician in the world.

ceboxer15
03-19-2007, 09:30 PM
I meant that being like Ali and being technically sound is a contradiction.
Hence, I meant that Ali was not the greatest technician in the world.

oh, i see.

SABBATH
03-20-2007, 01:58 PM
first of all, he had great skills, he was like Ali, he had the speed of a lightweight and the body of a heavyweight, he also had great power. what if he turned during the divisions toughest era: the 70's? Could he be a worthy contender or even champion. He was actually offered a deal to fight Ali in his pro debut for the heavywieght title, but refused. If he didn't refuse, he could've been the second man to fight for the title in his pro debut, the first being Pete Rademacher who fought Floyd Patterson in his pro debut for the title. Anyway, I think he could've been a worthy contender, but I can't see him beating the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Norton. He would've had a decent chance aginst them, but he wouldn't beat them, maybe he could've been champ in the late 70's/early 80's, who knows? your thoughts?He had the natural ability and power and with a good trainer would have been succesful as a professional but to what degree who knows.

Keep in mind that many of his victims at the international amateur level came against young heavyweight fighters that hadn't fully developed into men.

RING magazine did a round by round description of a fantasy match between Larry Holmes and Stevenson in 1984. If memory serves me correctly Holmes won a 4 round decison.

As an interesting sidenote, I was in Cuba in 1989 and spoke with many Cubans about sports in general which they are quite passionate bout. Everyone I spoke with idolized Stevenson and no one I spoke with had heard of Muhammad Ali.

catskills23
03-20-2007, 04:17 PM
first of all, he had great skills, he was like Ali, he had the speed of a lightweight and the body of a heavyweight, he also had great power. what if he turned during the divisions toughest era: the 70's? Could he be a worthy contender or even champion. He was actually offered a deal to fight Ali in his pro debut for the heavywieght title, but refused. If he didn't refuse, he could've been the second man to fight for the title in his pro debut, the first being Pete Rademacher who fought Floyd Patterson in his pro debut for the title. Anyway, I think he could've been a worthy contender, but I can't see him beating the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Norton. He would've had a decent chance aginst them, but he wouldn't beat them, maybe he could've been champ in the late 70's/early 80's, who knows? your thoughts?

speed of a lightweight my arse . Total exaggeration

larrytyson
03-21-2007, 04:48 PM
first of all, he had great skills, he was like Ali, he had the speed of a lightweight and the body of a heavyweight, he also had great power. what if he turned during the divisions toughest era: the 70's? Could he be a worthy contender or even champion. He was actually offered a deal to fight Ali in his pro debut for the heavywieght title, but refused. If he didn't refuse, he could've been the second man to fight for the title in his pro debut, the first being Pete Rademacher who fought Floyd Patterson in his pro debut for the title. Anyway, I think he could've been a worthy contender, but I can't see him beating the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Norton. He would've had a decent chance aginst them, but he wouldn't beat them, maybe he could've been champ in the late 70's/early 80's, who knows? your thoughts?

I personaly think he would have beaten Ali of 70's (he was not the same ali of 60's) he would also beat frazier imo! I think he could lose to foreman of late 70's and Larry Holmes!

SABBATH
03-21-2007, 05:41 PM
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Dynamite76
04-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Teo at best would have been a good boxer, but this cat was beaten twice by Igor Vysotsky, and Jimmy Clark gave him hell in a couple of his fights.If Mitch Green or Greg Page had gotten hold of him, they would've taken him, like around 78 or 79.

Dynamite76
04-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Teo at best would have been a good boxer, but this cat was beaten twice by Igor Vysotsky, and Jimmy Clark gave him hell in a couple of his fights.If Mitch Green or Greg Page had gotten hold of him, they would've taken him, like around 78 or 79.

Ishak Pasha
04-12-2007, 04:09 PM
He had the natural ability and power and with a good trainer would have been succesful as a professional but to what degree who knows.

Keep in mind that many of his victims at the international amateur level came against young heavyweight fighters that hadn't fully developed into men.

RING magazine did a round by round description of a fantasy match between Larry Holmes and Stevenson in 1984. If memory serves me correctly Holmes won a 4 round decison.

As an interesting sidenote, I was in Cuba in 1989 and spoke with many Cubans about sports in general which they are quite passionate bout. Everyone I spoke with idolized Stevenson and no one I spoke with had heard of Muhammad Ali.exaxctly. they dont know whats going on outside of cuba.