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Nacho_Analstain
03-06-2007, 11:16 PM
i had whey protein,the amount your supposed to take when looking to build muscle and had a protein rich diet....but didnt do any exercise ???

Nacho_Analstain
03-06-2007, 11:29 PM
cough......

Nacho_Analstain
03-06-2007, 11:30 PM
cough......

BrooklynBomber
03-06-2007, 11:33 PM
nothing, it would be just an extra work for your organism. You would not grow muscle.

Hitman18
03-06-2007, 11:40 PM
If you dont want to lift weights or anything, just do alot of push ups and situps. You'll get cut, not really buff or muscled or anything, but more so toned.

Nacho_Analstain
03-06-2007, 11:43 PM
i will lift weights,i just know that there will be some weeks where i get lazy and cant be arsed to do anything lol

Trick
03-06-2007, 11:47 PM
Protein isn't some steroid or something. As soon as you get what you need, extra has no effect (what you NEED is varied by many things, activity level being one of them), in fact, it's really not even stored, just burned up. If you go nuts you'll get to experience some kidney stones though. Enjoy that.

Peace,
Trick

PunchDrunk
03-07-2007, 05:51 AM
Calories are calories (to a certain extent). If you stuff yourself, you'll gain weight. If you don't do the work, it won't be the kind of weight you want, if you know what I'm saying.

leff
03-07-2007, 10:31 AM
but he will stil most likely get stronger, say he eats hinself upp 20lbs even without excersise he will probably be stronger

platinummatt!
03-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Too much protein is bad for you. With too much it takes calcium out of your bones.

Nacho_Analstain
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
not with the amount of milk i drink lol

leff
03-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Too much protein is bad for you. With too much it takes calcium out of your bones.

source please?

Trick
03-07-2007, 05:24 PM
I don't have a direct source, but I do know that studies have indicated that over-consuming protein can cause calcium loss (well, above-average calcium loss) in the urine. For that to happen, about 35% of your diet would have to be protein, and that's assuming you eat enough anyways. I personally probably consume close to 100g of protein a day (on the 6 days that I train), if I were to consume 150g, that's probably where I would start to see problems (bare in mind, I'm not a big guy). Also, in an indirect link, many people who try to be "healthy" forgo dairy, personally, I don't eat much either, but you also have to make sure you get enough from other sources (multi-vitamens, veges, and so on) alot of people don't do that.

Peace,
Trick

PunchDrunk
03-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Avoid too much protein. Getting too much protein can leach calcium from your bones. As your body digests protein, it releases acids into the bloodstream, which the body neutralizes by drawing calcium from the bones. Animal protein seems to cause more of this calcium leaching than vegetable protein does.(3) Just how important protein is as a risk factor for osteoporosis is still up in the air.

From this page:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/Printer%20Friendly/Calcium%20and%20Milk.pdf

Trick
03-07-2007, 07:01 PM
It should be noted that acid (Acid in the proton donor sense) is formed when the body METABOLIZES the protein, not just breaks it down. It will break it down to use the amino acids for the trillions of functions we need them for, but when you get too much, it gets metabolized, like sugar, fat, even nucleic acids (which also produce acid, although unless any of you are seriously under-nourished, I wouldn't worry about it). So some people need 40g of protein a day, some 150g, neither of them will leach calcium from their bones (not an appreciable amount anyway). Now if the guy who should have 40g, has 150g a day, he can expect a lot of broken hips come retirement.

Peace,
Trick

P.S. Good link Punchdrunk, people should read that over, atheltes often overlook the importance of getting enough minerals and vits, and focus on carbs and protein and lack of fat.

warriorsingh84'
03-07-2007, 08:07 PM
aren't you supposed to be having a gram of protein per lb of bodyweight?? or is it kg?

Trick
03-07-2007, 09:59 PM
Well that rule goes by kg, and it's a very general rule

BrooklynBomber
03-07-2007, 10:04 PM
Well that rule goes by kg, and it's a very general rule

Well, I weight about 160, and generally dont consumme over 120 grams of pretein., but my gains are solid.


Oh wait, I just realised that you only need one gram of pretin for every kg, not evrey pound?

NewbieRJJ
03-07-2007, 10:04 PM
You guys are ridiculous with this too much protien stuff, he didnt say he was consuming like 300 g of protien each day, you should take like .8 g of protien for each pound you weigh, you should be fine, you do that and work out you should build muscle quicker than usual.

Trick
03-07-2007, 10:28 PM
Ok, really that rule is general as ****. There's a huge difference between a 160lb fatass and say Bernard Hopkins. Do you think they took in the same protein (or at least should have been). B.Bomber, from what I've read you train (or at least have been trainin') hard, so 120g is fine. The only thing is that when you take it a lot more than you need, you metabolize more, which through a long sequence of events, takes the calcium out of your bones. Personally, I'm 155, and take in about 110g of protein daily, but that's just me, hell, ask me, tell me what you do, and I'll do my best to tell you what you should be having, but I'm not doctor or nutrionist. Just know that any real athlete should be a little more specific than some "I weight this, so I'll eat this" rule. In the end though, as an athlete, it's probably better to go over than under. Not so good for your bones later, but if you're gonna go hard till your 30, and then lay off, you're not gonna doom yourself to a life of week bones, and your body will be getting the amino acids it needs.

Peace,
Trick

BrooklynBomber
03-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Ok, really that rule is general as ****. There's a huge difference between a 160lb fatass and say Bernard Hopkins. Do you think they took in the same protein (or at least should have been). B.Bomber, from what I've read you train (or at least have been trainin') hard, so 120g is fine. The only thing is that when you take it a lot more than you need, you metabolize more, which through a long sequence of events, takes the calcium out of your bones. Personally, I'm 155, and take in about 110g of protein daily, but that's just me, hell, ask me, tell me what you do, and I'll do my best to tell you what you should be having, but I'm not doctor or nutrionist. Just know that any real athlete should be a little more specific than some "I weight this, so I'll eat this" rule. In the end though, as an athlete, it's probably better to go over than under. Not so good for your bones later, but if you're gonna go hard till your 30, and then lay off, you're not gonna doom yourself to a life of week bones, and your body will be getting the amino acids it needs.

Peace,
Trick

Thanks, thats really what I needed to know.