after UFC 70

CroCop vs Arlovski is next
CroCop vs Sylvia
CroCop vs Couture

Couture is the man.

randy couture is a god....he completley owned him in every aspect of the fighting game...he landed close to 35 right hands, and 25+ left hooks....and 8+ takedowns....randy is a god, its as simple as that!

dont be fooled by other threads...if cro-cop wins his next fight, its CRO_COP v.s. RANDY!

What makes you so sure? Do you think they want to throw wood into the fire that everyone is dancing around?

What makes you so sure? Do you think they want to throw wood into the fire that everyone is dancing around?

randy signed a 3-4 fight deal with ufc...win or lose he was facing cro-cop.....thats what dana said since day one that he signed the contract...also rogan and goldie both stated that the winner gets cro-cop! LOL

Goldie said "could".

It would make no sense for Couture to fight anyone else, but I didn't think it would be so early. It sure is something to look forward to.

Who do you think will take it? I think Couture beats CroCop, in similar faction as Nogueira did. Then Arlovski challenges CroCop? Then Arlovski and Sylvia do it again? But let's not speculate. Kinda like Tim Sylvia not trying to take anything away from Couture.

Randy truly is my Hero! Unreal

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Love it, love it, love it. ****ing A, love it.

That was the ****ing ****. I couldnt believe randy dropping him with the first punch he through in the fight either, those rights were tagging him big time. I knew that Tim was sorta limited in the skill department but i didnt think it would be so easy for randy, i actually thought randy was gonna get ktfo.

Yeah he was standing up beating Sylvia at his own game, it was awesome.

I still couldn't believe he was standing in front of that big mother ****er.

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Ultimate Fighting Championship legend Randy Couture made a dramatic return to the octagon Saturday night, winning a unanimous decision over heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia during UFC 68: The Uprising in Nationwide Arena. [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=7635)]

What makes you so sure? Do you think they want to throw wood into the fire that everyone is dancing around?

Dana has said repeatedly in interviews that the winner of Crocop/Gonzaga gets the title shot.

Dana has said repeatedly in interviews that the winner of Crocop/Gonzaga gets the title shot.

yeah, i stated that before in another thread but he doesnt want to listen....some people are just stubburn and dont listen to me...most people on these mma forums do listen, and they are happy b/c iam almost always right!

and andri arsvlovski is facing werdum next, NOT CROCOP, RANDY, OR TIM SYVLIA U DUMB ****S!

i wonder how much of this was politics....
Sylvia says he found out who he was fighting 8 weeks out
Cotoure knew about this a long long time ago...(training with heavyweights)


also...how is it possible all of Dana White favorite guys won....and why is Joe Rogan a nuthugger...instead of a neutral commentator like he is supposed to be??

things that make u go hmm?

Anyone know where I can download this fight?

Great fight. I can't see Couture being a long-term champion though. I mean, Father Time has to catch up to him sometime. Right? LOL. Gotta give Couture all the mad respect and props in the world. I thought he was gonna get destroyed.

Randy will lose to Crocop if that's his next fight. I kinda hope they give him someone between now and then to prolong his reign.

i wonder how much of this was politics....
Sylvia says he found out who he was fighting 8 weeks out
Cotoure knew about this a long long time ago...(training with heavyweights)


also...how is it possible all of Dana White favorite guys won....and why is Joe Rogan a nuthugger...instead of a neutral commentator like he is supposed to be??

things that make u go hmm?

Oh yeah, there's politics involved.

Rogan is a nuthugger, but I don't think there was any damn conspiracy. Randy got the shot because he's Randy, it's one of those cases where ANYONE would make the exception

He might be the most beloved man in MMA, he's certainly one of my top 5 favorite fighters in the entire sport.

yeah, i stated that before in another thread but he doesnt want to listen....some people are just stubburn and dont listen to me...most people on these mma forums do listen, and they are happy b/c iam almost always right!

You forgot to say how modest you were too. :p

i wonder how much of this was politics....
Sylvia says he found out who he was fighting 8 weeks out
Cotoure knew about this a long long time ago...(training with heavyweights)


also...how is it possible all of Dana White favorite guys won....and why is Joe Rogan a nuthugger...instead of a neutral commentator like he is supposed to be??

things that make u go hmm?

I'm pretty sure the moment Randy had decided to come out of retirement, he started training for Sylvia which according to Randy was right after the Monson fight. How could Sylvia know Randy was going to come back until Randy approached Dana? I don't think Dana secretly knew Randy was going to come back and withheld it from Sylvia. I think all of Dana's "favorites" won cause they were all really good former champions. They aren't noobs to the sport.

Sylvia is claiming he had a back injury, and wanted to pull out of the fight.
Excuses, here we come.

Sylvia is claiming he had a back injury, and wanted to pull out of the fight.
Excuses, here we come.

If anything he hurt his back during the fight with all those takedowns that Couture was scoring with.

Everyone has an excuse after losing but then they say they don't want to take away from the other guys win.

Randy will lose to Crocop if that's his next fight. I kinda hope they give him someone between now and then to prolong his reign.

yep, sad but true, but i do hope randy finds a way to win that one, definatly wouldnt be an easy fight

I'd love to see Couture beat CroCop. I don't bash fighters, but there are certain ones I enjoy seeing lose. CroCop being one of em. When Noguiera armbarred him back a few years ago, I just about jumped through the roof.

i like Randy...he's awesome...
but Dana White reminds me of Lex Luthor...wheres the hype for Anderson Silve or Rashad Evans or Matt Hamill....Dana plays favortism for sure and Joe Rogan isn't a profesional when it comes to staying neutral...he's cool other than that...

Randy is the ****ing man. I missed the fight though. ****.. Who got it? Upload that ****!

Randy is back then. Good ****!

**** it looks like making weight was the prob with him. I would like to see chuck and randy at heavyweight

Rogan is neutral.
Everyone gets the same amount of hype in countdown.
Fans make a fighter significant, obviously attributed to capability and personality.

You know, it's funny.

I was excited and all....but I knew he was going to rip Sylvia apart.

He's ten times more complete and I figured the only way Sylvia could win was if he caught Randy with some serious ****.

Goldie said "could".

It would make no sense for Couture to fight anyone else, but I didn't think it would be so early. It sure is something to look forward to.

Who do you think will take it? I think Couture beats CroCop, in similar faction as Nogueira did. Then Arlovski challenges CroCop? Then Arlovski and Sylvia do it again? But let's not speculate. Kinda like Tim Sylvia not trying to take anything away from Couture.


dont forget to add Werdum in there also

haha....3 more easy fights for Randy....Cro Cop,AA and Werdum :bigeyes: lol

Rogan is pretty neutral minus has blatent and admitted favoritism for Randy.

Cro Crop would kill randy if they fought.

Cro Crop would kill randy if they fought.

Yeah it's not even debatable.

Randy shouldn't take that fight if ever prospect.

Sylvia’s ignorance cost him, simple as. I still like him though.
Is he boring to watch? Yes.
Is he a **** fighter, No.

i like Randy...he's awesome...
but Dana White reminds me of Lex Luthor...wheres the hype for Anderson Silve or Rashad Evans or Matt Hamill....Dana plays favortism for sure and Joe Rogan isn't a profesional when it comes to staying neutral...he's cool other than that...

I truly cannot stand Dana White, the favoritism is obvious which is ****ed considering how much influence he has. Plus hes the biggest ****ing fruitcake on tv. What kind of a name is Dana White anyways, probly the girliest ****ing name i've ever heard.

Great fight. I can't see Couture being a long-term champion though. I mean, Father Time has to catch up to him sometime. Right?

Father Time? Is that an old Croatian saying?

Rogan is pretty neutral minus has blatent and admitted favoritism for Randy.

Cro Crop would kill randy if they fought.

Agreed.

Randy will probably show CroCop more respect than he did Sylvia, knowing that Cro is a thoroughbred like himself. For instance, I don't think Randy would even attempt that lunging right hand he hit Sylvia with in the opening seconds. Old Sloth Sylvia jus6 stood there flat fotted and let Randy walk in! recall ever seeing CroCop standing still and waiting for a grappler to swing?

As much as I have enjoyed Couture's fights, he's just not the man to beat Cro. Look at Couture's losses to none other than Liddell, a man than CroCop would beat into the ground with ease. It will also be that easy for Cro to chop down Randy.

Agreed.

Randy will probably show CroCop more respect than he did Sylvia, knowing that Cro is a thoroughbred like himself. For instance, I don't think Randy would even attempt that lunging right hand he hit Sylvia with in the opening seconds. Old Sloth Sylvia jus6 stood there flat fotted and let Randy walk in! recall ever seeing CroCop standing still and waiting for a grappler to swing?

As much as I have enjoyed Couture's fights, he's just not the man to beat Cro. Look at Couture's losses to none other than Liddell, a man than CroCop would beat into the ground with ease. It will also be that easy for Cro to chop down Randy.

i dont no...i think randy see`s a hole in cro-cops game...but i just dont think randy has anything on him.....cro-cop is faster, quicker, way better reflexes,the best striking in mma, the best sprawl in mma, and good ground game to nuertialize randy.....i think randy is biting more off than he can chew...he isnt going to be able to dodge high/mid kicks and cro-cops timing and distance is amazing unlike anyone he`s faced.....i honestly think randy has never ever fought anything close to cro-cop, not even the same animal...

i dont no...i think randy see`s a hole in cro-cops game...but i just dont think randy has anything on him.....cro-cop is faster, quicker, way better reflexes,the best striking in mma, the best sprawl in mma, and good ground game to nuertialize randy.....i think randy is biting more off than he can chew...he isnt going to be able to dodge high/mid kicks and cro-cops timing and distance is amazing unlike anyone he`s faced.....i honestly think randy has never ever fought anything close to cro-cop, not even the same animal...


Sure Cro Cop has holes in his game. The key with Cro Cop is to not let him set the pace. To not let him be the agressor. When he lost to Hunt and Fedor, they kept the pressure on Cro Cop and kept him backpeddling. Even Alexander Emeilanenko wasn't doing too bad a job until he ate the high kick. Plus his ground game is nowhere near as good as you make it out to be. Sure he's got a great sprawl, but besides that he's really got no ground game to speak of. He's only been training grappling at a MAX, in it's most rudementary form, since 2001. Probably only seriously since he lost to Nogueira. Take nothing away from Cro Cop. He's got mad skills and will probably end up the UFC champ, but he's definitly got a couple holes in his game.

Hoost did stop mirko with a body shot, and McDonald opened up on him in K-1. He's close to, but he's not superman.

Sure Cro Cop has holes in his game. The key with Cro Cop is to not let him set the pace. To not let him be the agressor. When he lost to Hunt and Fedor, they kept the pressure on Cro Cop and kept him backpeddling. Even Alexander Emeilanenko wasn't doing too bad a job until he ate the high kick. Plus his ground game is nowhere near as good as you make it out to be. Sure he's got a great sprawl, but besides that he's really got no ground game to speak of. He's only been training grappling at a MAX, in it's most rudementary form, since 2001. Probably only seriously since he lost to Nogueira. Take nothing away from Cro Cop. He's got mad skills and will probably end up the UFC champ, but he's definitly got a couple holes in his game.

pressure is not the key to beat cro-cop, your wrong!

cro-cop learned alot from the fedor fight and if you keep pressure on him, hes going to crack you a few times.....
hunt survived because he has the best chin in mma ( and every mma fan i know knew cro-cop won that fight anyways)....

if it wasnt for cro-cop slipping twice, fedor still would be in the hospital :rofl:

alex was getting owned the entire fight...your wrong... he ate a good 3 punch combination and a a seriers of mid/low leg kicks, the only thing he did was land 2-3 rights and a knee ( but if you consider that, "not so bad" hey go with it)

barnett and wand kept pressure on cro-cop in the 2nd fight and you know what occured, KTFO!!!! if you run, youll end up like sanchez....

the key to beat cro-cop is to take him down and pound away and look for a submission...thats all....who`s better in that situation than RANDY??


you make a fool of yourself everytime you repeat something the ufc/pride commentators say....and is this a case where you owned me? :rofl: ***** please get ur facts straight and bow down to the ruler of the mma forums!



wait wait wait......did you just say cro-cop "he's really got no ground game to speak of" :rofl: please go to sherdog asap....he has a great ground game, stop smoking that crack....he was neutrailzing fedor on the ground better than ANYONE has an even attemped a few arm bars along with a traingle, so much for his lack of ground game!

pressure is not the key to beat cro-cop, your wrong!

cro-cop learned alot from the fedor fight and if you keep pressure on him, hes going to crack you a few times.....
hunt survived because he has the best chin in mma ( and every mma fan i know knew cro-cop won that fight anyways)....

if it wasnt for cro-cop slipping twice, fedor still would be in the hospital :rofl:

alex was getting owned the entire fight...your wrong... he ate a good 3 punch combination and a a seriers of mid/low leg kicks, the only thing he did was land 2-3 rights and a knee ( but if you consider that, "not so bad" hey go with it)

barnett and wand kept pressure on cro-cop in the 2nd fight and you know what occured, KTFO!!!! if you run, youll end up like sanchez....

the key to beat cro-cop is to take him down and pound away and look for a submission...thats all....who`s better in that situation than RANDY??


you make a fool of yourself everytime you repeat something the ufc/pride commentators say....and is this a case where you owned me? :rofl: ***** please get ur facts straight and bow down to the ruler of the mma forums!



wait wait wait......did you just say cro-cop "he's really got no ground game to speak of" :rofl: please go to sherdog asap....he has a great ground game, stop smoking that crack....he was neutrailzing fedor on the ground better than ANYONE has an even attemped a few arm bars along with a traingle, so much for his lack of ground game!


LOL. How childish are you? Do you feel threatened by me or something? Anyways, you keep on being a knob, and I'll reply to your post.

First off, you seem to know what CroCop has or hasn't learned from the Fedor fight like you have some sorta inside information. Fedor would be in the hospital if CroCop hadn't slipped? Please. Fedor was rarely in any danger throughout that fight, CroCop got his ass handed to him, plain and simple. The Hunt fight was pretty close, but Hunt had him backing up, and was the agressor for most of the fight. I gave it to Hunt. Close fight though.

Alexander Emelianenko didn't get owned the entire fight. He kept the pressure on Cro Cop and landed some good strikes. He had the right idea and the right strategy to beat him, he just ****ed up. Another fight you need to watch again, kid.

Sure Barnett kept the pressure on CroCop in their 2nd fight, but he still lost. It's not a foolproof way to beat the guy. No foolproof way exists to beat anybody in MMA. Silva got destroyed, plain and simple. Not sure where you're getting the idea that Silva pressured him in that fight. Maybe you're referring to their first fight in which Silva pressured him constantly, and would have won the fight if judges were allowed.

Not sure where you get that Randy Couture is a submission master. Granted he's a great grappler, but he rarely even attempts submissions, much less pull them off.

And I'll say it again. Cro Cop has pretty well no ground game to speak of. If attempting a couple of desperation armbars and triangles against Fedor means that he's got a world class ground game, then you're sadly mistaken. I'll remind you that Fedor's broken right hand is really want neutralized him on the ground against CroCop. Not Cro Cop's ground skills like you think.

I'll just address the last topic one more time, and that'll be it. Where do you get the idea that I'm trying to "own" you. Son, I couldn't care less about your existance. Honestly, you claim to "run the MMA forum" here, but you really are not that knowledgable. You just chime in and agree with what people say. You don't really have opinions of your own, and the ones you do have are just not correct. Do you feel threatened by me because I point that out on a regular basis? You keep telling me to go to Sherdog, but the sad fact of the matter is, you wouldn't last a day there. You'd either be banned for fighter bashing, or flamed out of there for being a moron. I don't repeat what anybody says, commentators or not. I've been watching MMA for years, and have forgotten more than you'll ever know.

That's the last time I respond to your childish remarks.

after UFC 70

CroCop vs Arlovski is next
CroCop vs Sylvia
CroCop vs Couture

Couture is the man.

Intelligence + conditioning > talant. And by a wide margine. He has awe inspiring strategy and sticks to the game plan.

LOL. How childish are you? Do you feel threatened by me or something? Anyways, you keep on being a knob, and I'll reply to your post.

not really, i just hate it when people lie like you....

First off, you seem to know what CroCop has or hasn't learned from the Fedor fight like you have some sorta inside information. Fedor would be in the hospital if CroCop hadn't slipped? Please. Fedor was rarely in any danger throughout that fight, CroCop got his ass handed to him, plain and simple. The Hunt fight was pretty close, but Hunt had him backing up, and was the agressor for most of the fight. I gave it to Hunt. Close fight though.

cro-cop has learned from his fedor fight that if he moves forward, no one can stop him....and i :rofl: at the fact that if cro-cop slipped....it was a joke my dude...no one is touching fedor! hunt/cro-cop was close but all the clean shots that cro-cop landed won it for me...hunt landed some shots too, but nothing clean and no where near as much as cro-cop! that axe kick that cro-cop landed was insane!

Alexander Emelianenko didn't get owned the entire fight. He kept the pressure on Cro Cop and landed some good strikes. He had the right idea and the right strategy to beat him, he just ****ed up. Another fight you need to watch again, kid.

ive done this before with you, alex didnt land one clean punch, only one knee...stop lying my dude, its sad that you do these kid of things, KID!

Sure Barnett kept the pressure on CroCop in their 2nd fight, but he still lost. It's not a foolproof way to beat the guy. No foolproof way exists to beat anybody in MMA. Silva got destroyed, plain and simple. Not sure where you're getting the idea that Silva pressured him in that fight. Maybe you're referring to their first fight in which Silva pressured him constantly, and would have won the fight if judges were allowed.

wand was pressureing cro-cop in both fights, and got his ass kicked...and the first fight wasnt really considered a real fight, due to the rules and the fact that their was no judges...

Not sure where you get that Randy Couture is a submission master. Granted he's a great grappler, but he rarely even attempts submissions, much less pull them off.

i never claimed that randy was a submission master, but he sure as **** has better submissions than most wrestlers and probably good enuff to submit cro-cop if he gave him the chance

And I'll say it again. Cro Cop has pretty well no ground game to speak of. If attempting a couple of desperation armbars and triangles against Fedor means that he's got a world class ground game, then you're sadly mistaken. I'll remind you that Fedor's broken right hand is really want neutralized him on the ground against CroCop. Not Cro Cop's ground skills like you think.

once again, you twist everything i say....sad sad move on your part... as for the rest, i didnt even bother reading it...its a forums my dude, you take things way too serious :bottle: jump off a bridge and commit suicide...stick to beating off

This Atnan character is a nut job, like the last one that got banned. I think he is the same dude with a new name and a toned down attitude.

He has some real mental problems in thinking he runs this forum.

This Atnan character is a nut job, like the last one that got banned. I think he is the same dude with a new name and a toned down attitude.

He has some real mental problems in thinking he runs this forum.

yeah, iam the same person... :rofl: somehow, i was here since 2004, where a ***** like you just signed up! dont be mad b/c i :owned: everytime you said something wrong!

i run the forums, whether you like it or not!

Atnan contributes. LHW just trolled. I may not agree with Atnan on some things, but he doesn't start flaming people and keeps the disagreements civil.

Atnan contributes. LHW just trolled. I may not agree with Atnan on some things, but he doesn't start flaming people and keeps the disagreements civil.

thank you...i try...people hate on me too much....i keep things cool and iam nice to alot of people....

randy couture won me £50 and rich and matt won me 20 each lol i love ufc

Randy Couture was slick in that octagon, what did silvia do to him...NOTHING. What Randy did was Amazing, He aint fighting cro cop though, cro cop is fighting for the belt in europe i think:s they have a good fight card over there with cro cop, arlovski, bisping. looks pretty interesting.

Randy Couture was slick in that octagon, what did silvia do to him...NOTHING. What Randy did was Amazing, He aint fighting cro cop though, cro cop is fighting for the belt in europe i think:s they have a good fight card over there with cro cop, arlovski, bisping. looks pretty interesting.

He's fighting Gabriel Gonzaga in England. The winner gets Couture. I think it'd be great if it was Gonzaga. Everybody is real quick to write him off.

He's fighting Gabriel Gonzaga in England. The winner gets Couture. I think it'd be great if it was Gonzaga. Everybody is real quick to write him off.

Gonzaga is a tough character, Mirko said it himself.

I'm sure he knows he can't take him lightly. I think about UFC rules, and how that's going to affect his striking. It will, big time if he has to unleash the dirty tactics that make him a beast.

"Never heard of him. But if UFC thinks he's an ideal opponent for me, I have no problem with that. I don't get to choose who I'll fight, and I have no reason to complain why my road to the title will be easier that I thought."

Those were Mirko's original (and best) comments on Gonzaga.

Gonzaga is a tough character, Mirko said it himself.

I'm sure he knows he can't take him lightly. I think about UFC rules, and how that's going to affect his striking. It will, big time if he has to unleash the dirty tactics that make him a beast.

i agree....gonzaga is no joke...the dude could bang or buck ( strike or submit)....i think cro-cop is gonna keep the distance and get a tko or knock out...

what i love about cro-cop is the majority of his fights dont go the distance and you could bet ur ass someone is getting get ktfo/tko`ed or submitted