View Full Version : Golota winds up with all four belts?? It could happen
GranTorino 10-13-2004, 06:40 PM I know this is gonna sound nuts, but if you think about it, it could happen pretty easily. Its pretty much a given that he's gonna take out Ruiz next month. Leaving Byrd, Brewster, Vitali. Well, Byrd will most likely dodge his way to another gimme decision, and Brewster is a basic non-issue when you think about what Golota would do to him. So that leaves Vitali. And after having seen the Golota/Byrd fight for the fifth time, I am more and more impressed with his skills and I think his mental volatility is a thing of the past. I think he has better skills than Vitali, and is just as strong. Odd, Golota holding all the belts, but there you go.
neils7147933 10-13-2004, 06:44 PM I know this is gonna sound nuts, but if you think about it, it could happen pretty easily. Its pretty much a given that he's gonna take out Ruiz next month. Leaving Byrd, Brewster, Vitali. Well, Byrd will most likely dodge his way to another gimme decision, and Brewster is a basic non-issue when you think about what Golota would do to him. So that leaves Vitali. And after having seen the Golota/Byrd fight for the fifth time, I am more and more impressed with his skills and I think his mental volatility is a thing of the past. I think he has better skills than Vitali, and is just as strong. Odd, Golota holding all the belts, but there you go.
This is very, very far-fetched. Not only because it's Golota, who Vitali doesn't want and won't have to face because he won't be the WBC mandatory anytime soon, or because Byrd already faced him and doesn't want a rematch, or because why would he go for the WBO belt if he already had one of the others, but because he'll lose to Ruiz next month.
mr.thraz 10-13-2004, 06:44 PM we'll see if he has improved his mentel toughness in this fight with ruiz.
but i tell you the belt aren't unified cause of the promoters not cause these guys don't wanna fight each other.
ejk22 10-13-2004, 08:08 PM I know this is gonna sound nuts, but if you think about it, it could happen pretty easily. Its pretty much a given that he's gonna take out Ruiz next month. Leaving Byrd, Brewster, Vitali. Well, Byrd will most likely dodge his way to another gimme decision, and Brewster is a basic non-issue when you think about what Golota would do to him. So that leaves Vitali. And after having seen the Golota/Byrd fight for the fifth time, I am more and more impressed with his skills and I think his mental volatility is a thing of the past. I think he has better skills than Vitali, and is just as strong. Odd, Golota holding all the belts, but there you go.
Do you have this fight on video? If you do I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a copy of it. I saw this fight once and that was not enough for me.
techn9ne 10-13-2004, 08:12 PM he may have all 4 belts but thats until michael grant rises from the ashes and pummels him for the second time
oh snap!
MetalVomit 10-13-2004, 09:07 PM I know this is gonna sound nuts, but if you think about it, it could happen pretty easily. Its pretty much a given that he's gonna take out Ruiz next month. Leaving Byrd, Brewster, Vitali. Well, Byrd will most likely dodge his way to another gimme decision, and Brewster is a basic non-issue when you think about what Golota would do to him. So that leaves Vitali. And after having seen the Golota/Byrd fight for the fifth time, I am more and more impressed with his skills and I think his mental volatility is a thing of the past. I think he has better skills than Vitali, and is just as strong. Odd, Golota holding all the belts, but there you go.
he wont beat Vitali, but he should mop the floor with everyone else. I still think i could take Brewster
TheFairPole 10-13-2004, 09:15 PM I think he is becoming King's main fighter. I really think a fight with him and Vitali would be a great fight. lots of blood and lots of swelling. If Andrew can keep his mentality against Ruiz he is over the mental issues he has had in the past. I picture this fight as kind of a Vitali vs. an in shape Sanders. I realize Golota doesn't have the bomb that sanders does but he does punch hard to the body and to the head. I think this fight would be a classic!!!
realheavyhands 10-14-2004, 01:38 AM well vitali is scared of him for some reason ... but if he got um all tyson would destroy golota... golota is scared of tyson.. he dont like fight huge punchers.. and tyson hit with 2 hands klit only hit with one and brewsters a bum
golota, the guy who has NEVER won a big fight??? the guy who quits when the going gets rough?? he's gonna unify the titles???
FibreOptic 10-14-2004, 09:00 AM This is very, very far-fetched. Not only because it's Golota, who Vitali doesn't want and won't have to face because he won't be the WBC mandatory anytime soon, or because Byrd already faced him and doesn't want a rematch, or because why would he go for the WBO belt if he already had one of the others, but because he'll lose to Ruiz next month.
Hey Neils7147933, who is that in your avatar?
jabsRstiff 10-14-2004, 09:09 AM Hey Neils7147933, who is that in your avatar?
That's from "Office Space".
spinksjinx 10-14-2004, 09:11 AM Rahman was supposed to mow through ruiz, golota is mental plain and simple...He would fold into anyone with a tactical gameplan and is more calm then he is...Ruiz takes golota (I hope not) but I dont doubt it one single bit.
ejk22 10-14-2004, 09:15 AM The fight with Tyson should have been a slam dunk win for Golota because Tyson was swinging away wildly with no control. If Golota was smart he should have gone into a defensive mode and countered with an over the top right or a nice uppercut. That's what happens to most fighters against Tyson they get intimidated when he comes into them like a bull and for the most part he swings wildly, all you need is a smart counterpuncher and prozacman will go down.
spinksjinx 10-14-2004, 09:20 AM The fight with Tyson should have been a slam dunk win for Golota because Tyson was swinging away wildly with no control. If Golota was smart he should have gone into a defensive mode and countered with an over the top right or a nice uppercut. That's what happens to most fighters against Tyson they get intimidated when he comes into them like a bull and for the most part he swings wildly, all you need is a smart counterpuncher and prozacman will go down.
I dont understand why golota folded, he was the bigger and much stronger man at that point....He just has no game plan and gets the jitters and panics and doesnt know what to do.....Golota has the physical tools but lacks a lot upstairs.
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 10:59 AM Yea, I got the file on my computer. How do I set it up so you guys can dl it?
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 11:00 AM Do you have this fight on video? If you do I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a copy of it. I saw this fight once and that was not enough for me.
Yea, I have the file on my comp. How do I set it up so you guys can download it? I dont know much bout that kind of techie stuff.
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 11:02 AM well vitali is scared of him for some reason ... but if he got um all tyson would destroy golota... golota is scared of tyson.. he dont like fight huge punchers.. and tyson hit with 2 hands klit only hit with one and brewsters a bum
Why do you say Vitali is scared of him? What have you heard? None of the interviews I have seen with Vitali even mention Golota.
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 11:03 AM golota, the guy who has NEVER won a big fight??? the guy who quits when the going gets rough?? he's gonna unify the titles???
If anyone can, it'll be him.
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 11:08 AM Rahman was supposed to mow through ruiz, golota is mental plain and simple...He would fold into anyone with a tactical gameplan and is more calm then he is...Ruiz takes golota (I hope not) but I dont doubt it one single bit.
I didnt see any folding against Byrd. Did you? All I saw was straight up ass-whooping, and a match that Golota should have won. And no, Im not a Golota nuthugger. Im a Vitali nuthugger. LOL.
GranTorino 10-14-2004, 11:10 AM The fight with Tyson should have been a slam dunk win for Golota because Tyson was swinging away wildly with no control. If Golota was smart he should have gone into a defensive mode and countered with an over the top right or a nice uppercut. That's what happens to most fighters against Tyson they get intimidated when he comes into them like a bull and for the most part he swings wildly, all you need is a smart counterpuncher and prozacman will go down.
I agree with you there, bro. We forget, this is TYSON we're talking about. And one of his more famous quotes comes to mind in regards to what you know should be done vs what you actually do: "Everybody has a plan until they get hit"
ejk22 10-14-2004, 11:15 AM Hopefully Golota realizes that his time is short and attempts to make the most of it. I really need to see Vitali fight Golota, I won't be satisfied until I see that. As heavyweight boxing fans, we have been shafted time and time again. I wanted to see a prime Bowe vs Lewis, Tyson vs Tua, Ibeabuchi vs Tyson but it will never happen. Even though Golota is not in his prime his mindset may be at it's prime which is good enough for me.
realheavyhands 10-14-2004, 12:34 PM I dont understand why golota folded, he was the bigger and much stronger man at that point....He just has no game plan and gets the jitters and panics and doesnt know what to do.....Golota has the physical tools but lacks a lot upstairs.
golota is big but aint strong for his size he only beches 340.. he is a great boxer but he wwill never beat a hard punching swarmer
i dont see how a guy who can't beat a fringe contender(GRANT), is going to unify the titles....
spinksjinx 10-14-2004, 02:14 PM Byrd posed no real threat to golota, A bench press means nothing when it comes to punching......
Everytime golota folds it is against a heavy puncher.....(RUIZ ISNT nor is Byrd) but it isnt like tyson carried the mental edge either...
abdiel2k3 10-14-2004, 02:25 PM I know this is gonna sound nuts, but if you think about it, it could happen pretty easily. Its pretty much a given that he's gonna take out Ruiz next month. Leaving Byrd, Brewster, Vitali. Well, Byrd will most likely dodge his way to another gimme decision, and Brewster is a basic non-issue when you think about what Golota would do to him. So that leaves Vitali. And after having seen the Golota/Byrd fight for the fifth time, I am more and more impressed with his skills and I think his mental volatility is a thing of the past. I think he has better skills than Vitali, and is just as strong. Odd, Golota holding all the belts, but there you go.
i think he looked mentally strong becuz he had byrd infront of him
i mean byrd is no real mental stress
hes just gonna slap his way to a victory
but if he gets in with Vit
he may have flashbacks to lewis specialy once he remember what Vit was on the verge of doin to Lewis himself
i see golota crumbling under Vits pressure
abdiel2k3 10-14-2004, 02:26 PM golota is big but aint strong for his size he only beches 340.. he is a great boxer but he wwill never beat a hard punching swarmer
benching strength has nothin to do with punching power
its all bout technique leverage and timing
you think the lil guys like manny and R.marquez who pack huge explosive boom can bench alot?
realheavyhands 10-14-2004, 04:27 PM it has tons to do with it if the technique is already there.. chris bryd said himsef he dont punch that hard
spinksjinx 10-14-2004, 04:38 PM it has tons to do with it if the technique is already there.. chris bryd said himsef he dont punch that hard
I still dont see it, I can see the power of a punch coming from your arms to your back and the base of your legs not your chest.....
Byrd has a pretty good chin no doubt about it though....
realheavyhands 10-15-2004, 11:17 AM then why tyson bench over 500 tua 455 ibeuchi 565 hmmmm ..it every thing but after you got technique its alot.. rahman aint that good technically but he can becnh 500 and he still knocks guys out
spinksjinx 10-15-2004, 11:21 AM then why tyson bench over 500 tua 455 ibeuchi 565 hmmmm ..it every thing but after you got technique its alot.. rahman aint that good technically but he can becnh 500 and he still knocks guys out
You forgetting they all do more then bench press...
Kimmy 10-15-2004, 12:26 PM people shouldn`t lose sight of the issue of Ruiz. Golota has the skills to hammer Ruiz easy but will the moment get to him again. My head says Golota but my heart says Ruiz will win a dull points dec. As for Klitscho, Golota would be stopped inside six!
realheavyhands 10-15-2004, 12:52 PM yea im sayin its about balance but bench is the chart for total body strength
ejk22 10-15-2004, 04:54 PM Check out these quotes from an article discussing the upcoming heavyweight card on November 13th
“In this fight with Ruiz, he will be tested. Ruiz is difficult and he’s physical. Byrd is one thing, Ruiz is another. Ruiz might spin you, hit behind your head, hit you on your hips or hold you. You know he’s going to try to get Andrew to snap. My job is to make sure that doesn’t happen.”
"I am proud to be part of the show and I want to be part of something that unifies a real champion," Golota said. Regarding Ruiz: "Nothing personal, Johnny, I love you. You too, Stoney. But you're in my way and it’s going to go my way November 13th."
Truth 10-15-2004, 05:30 PM Andrew Golota is a good heavyweight but I dont't think he is good enough to get all 4 belts.
TheFairPole 10-18-2004, 11:48 AM I think he could get 3 out of 4 but I don't know about getting Vitali's belt... Everyone on this site already knows that none of the current champs will ever get a chance at each other anyway!!! It's nice to dream though!!! ;)
phallus 10-19-2004, 12:28 AM Golota with all four belts???!! There's better chance of Ike "the President" Ibeabuchi getting paroled, no, breaking out of jail and being allowed to fight for the title. If that Mofo ever gets out of jail, (hope, hope) he'll be the next undisputed champ!
TheFairPole 10-19-2004, 09:40 AM Golota with all four belts???!! There's better chance of Ike "the President" Ibeabuchi getting paroled, no, breaking out of jail and being allowed to fight for the title. If that Mofo ever gets out of jail, (hope, hope) he'll be the next undisputed champ!
I think you are right about Ibeabuchi but he may be too old when he gets out. Golota can beat 3 out of 4 of the champs though!!!
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