other then just getting skinned knuckles, is it a good idea to hit the bag with just handwraps from time to time?? if it is, should you hit it with full power?

I see absolutely no benefits what-so-ever. If you want light hands, use 10oz gloves or something.. but usually people use big gloves to; a) protect their hands, b) work their shoulders and arms, c) gets you used to sparring gloves.

just as a bit of a survey, what gloves do you guys use. I thought mine were 10oz,but looking at them, they look like 8oz. Develops fast hands, think, but lately I've been thinking heavy gloves will help me throw the hands faster. Any thoughts?

10 oz is fine for bag work, I use 12 oz for bagwork/mitts and 16's for sparring.

maybe if you do it light it could toughin your knuckles i dunoe

if u wanna break your hand go ahead and go for it.

possible, but I see more benefit from using 10/12 oz gloves.

just as a bit of a survey, what gloves do you guys use. I thought mine were 10oz,but looking at them, they look like 8oz. Develops fast hands, think, but lately I've been thinking heavy gloves will help me throw the hands faster. Any thoughts?

nope, keep 8oz gloves for the bags, ur arms will get used to throwing quicker ;)
dont let anyone tell you heavy gloves will make you throw quicker when u put on light ones, its bull****.

Your knuckles will toughen up anyways, mines are like rocks, i can bite the skin on them and i dont feel much anymore lol, my knuckles always bruise up after pad work though

I use 14oz. gloves on the heavy bag..

^^Using bigger gloves on the bag will increase hand speed when you put on the lighter gloves... that isn't bull****

i use 8oz for bag work

i use 8oz for bag work

DAMN. only 8s? I use 16oz. that way when I go in competition I will be surprised at how quick I am,its a huge difference with 2 to 4 oz's off a glove

other then just getting skinned knuckles, is it a good idea to hit the bag with just handwraps from time to time?? if it is, should you hit it with full power?

It's a bad idea, first of all there's a bigger chance you'll hurt your hands while doing so, second your handspeed will not improve, and third you'll probably disform the handwraps if you're gonna hook the bag... So I suggest you get some big gloves for the bag :boxing:

DAMN. only 8s? I use 16oz. that way when I go in competition I will be surprised at how quick I am,its a huge difference with 2 to 4 oz's off a glove

i use 18oz every now and then but i use 8oz just to feel it a lil more and for speed

i use 18oz every now and then but i use 8oz just to feel it a lil more and for speed

but wouldnt u get speed with bigger gloves? and if u compete even more speed? as in your not gettin an advantage to me if u use small gloves,cause when u compete if u do am. u will be using even bigger 1s and could be slower and get tired easily

I use the 16 oz gloves to build handspeed and endurance, but smaller gloves are good for getting rid of the baby knuckles and getting your hands hard. I mix it up sometimes, but generally use the 16 0z and then just punch the punching board to toughen up my knuckles.

The more weight u have on your hands when ur punching, the slower your punches are gonna be but if you keep at it after a bit you'll get used to it and start speeding up. Then when ur punching with lighter gloves on you'll notice a speed difference. Thats just common sense. Works kinda on the same principle as punching under water.

nah it aint, theres only gonna be 10oz difference, they will get used to punching slow, its a fact, why are bag mits so light?

I use 20 oz. gloves for drills and bag work, 16 oz. gloves for combat. There is a noticeable difference in the weight when I switch to my sparring gloves.

I use 20 oz. gloves for drills and bag work, 16 oz. gloves for combat. There is a noticeable difference in the weight when I switch to my sparring gloves.

i bet u feel like ali when u take those 20s off huh.aahaha

hmm, maybe I need another pair of gloves.

but wouldnt u get speed with bigger gloves? and if u compete even more speed? as in your not gettin an advantage to me if u use small gloves,cause when u compete if u do am. u will be using even bigger 1s and could be slower and get tired easily

You can only go as fast as your muscles are trained to do by your brain. If your muscles never experienced going a certain speed when hitting a bag, then you won't be able hit as fast as you think you would be able to. It is true that using heavier gloves will make you FEEL like your going faster when you take them off, only because you got used to moving so slowly with your gloves and than you are free from the weight. And that is why I use both 8oz gloves and 18oz.

Let me try to explain it by over exaggerating; If one fighter is trained with 16oz, and one fighter is trained with 32oz gloves, which fighter will throw faster punches when fighting? The guy that trained with the 32oz might have more endurance and power, but will his muscles and brain be trained to throw a punch as fast as the guy that trained with half the amount of weight?

You're only as strong as fast as your muscle memory.

You can only go as fast as your muscles are trained to do by your brain. If your muscles never experienced going a certain speed when hitting a bag, then you won't be able hit as fast as you think you would be able to. It is true that using heavier gloves will make you FEEL like your going faster when you take them off, only because you got used to moving so slowly with your gloves and than you are free from the weight. And that is why I use both 8oz gloves and 18oz.

Let me try to explain it by over exaggerating; If one fighter is trained with 16oz, and one fighter is trained with 32oz gloves, which fighter will throw faster punches when fighting? The guy that trained with the 32oz might have more endurance and power, but will his muscles and brain be trained to throw a punch as fast as the guy that trained with half the amount of weight?

You're only as strong as fast as your muscle memory.

well speaking for me,I'm alot faster when I take my 16s off and throw on 12s theres a huge difference that stays.so I dont feel like im going fast I know I am.ahaha because there has to be a difference like if u take off 15pounds of weighted clothes that u have wore for 1 day.once u take those off u will be faster for a short time but faster.

now take me using 16s for 2 years straight for instance,once I put on 12s I will be alot faster and not just for a 12round fight neither.like u said its muscle memory and my muscles will remember those 16s for awhile even when I throw on 12s,then comes more speed.

Its not just about building your speed. Its about building the strength of your arms as well. So when your in the last round, you still have the same snap on your punches.

well speaking for me,I'm alot faster when I take my 16s off and throw on 12s theres a huge difference that stays.so I dont feel like im going fast I know I am.ahaha because there has to be a difference like if u take off 15pounds of weighted clothes that u have wore for 1 day.once u take those off u will be faster for a short time but faster.

now take me using 16s for 2 years straight for instance,once I put on 12s I will be alot faster and not just for a 12round fight neither.like u said its muscle memory and my muscles will remember those 16s for awhile even when I throw on 12s,then comes more speed.


i know where you are coming from but i still stand by the fact that training with lower oz and higher oz gloves will help in speed more than just training with higher oz gloves

and yet again you feel faster only because you are going faster than you did with heavier gloves, but you're not going faster than your top speed that you can go, do you know what i mean?

if your best time in a 40 is 4.5, and you run with a huge boulder on your back, then when you take it off, it's not like your 40 is going to be any better than 4.5

it just doesn't work that way...

i know where you are coming from but i still stand by the fact that training with lower oz and higher oz gloves will help in speed more than just training with higher oz gloves

and yet again you feel faster only because you are going faster than you did with heavier gloves, but you're not going faster than your top speed that you can go, do you know what i mean?

if your best time in a 40 is 4.5, and you run with a huge boulder on your back, then when you take it off, it's not like your 40 is going to be any better than 4.5

it just doesn't work that way...

what im saying is if u have something weighted on u for awhile.(months,years) it will be a difference when tookin off. I'm not talking about a week or so.ahaha I think thats where were getting confused. like resistance is for endurance and speed.I mean theres a limit every1s body can go even with alot of training of course.

Didn't feel like making a whole new thread, but what size gloves would you guys suggest to hit a double end bag? Or does it really matter?

Dario, you do seem to know your ****. I think that both "schools" have their own advantages. Muscle memory is key. It's the same concept as to why most of us don't bodybuild. We could stay in the gym, benchpressing all damn day, getting huge and strong. But that doesn't really help you punch faster. At the same time, having those heavy gloves on will help your strength, and ability to keep your hands up and all that. I'm thinking that it would be better to use a combination of both. What do you guys think?

Legend, I use my 8oz bag gloves for that, again, I'm training my ability to produce speed and reactions there. Not sure if that's the standard or what though.

Dario, you do seem to know your ****. I think that both "schools" have their own advantages. Muscle memory is key. It's the same concept as to why most of us don't bodybuild. We could stay in the gym, benchpressing all damn day, getting huge and strong. But that doesn't really help you punch faster. At the same time, having those heavy gloves on will help your strength, and ability to keep your hands up and all that. I'm thinking that it would be better to use a combination of both. What do you guys think?

you can do that method,but I prefer mine it hasnt failed me yet and of course I fight with my hands up so I need bigger gloves for endurance

i bet u feel like ali when u take those 20s off huh.aahaha

After using the 20's for half an hour or so, my shadowboxing is ****ing quick.

14's for me i try use 16's when there available the bigger the better in my opinion well to an extent i got bad hands but. It will tone you up with bigger gloves and make you quicker also get you used to the bigger gloves for sparring

i know where you are coming from but i still stand by the fact that training with lower oz and higher oz gloves will help in speed more than just training with higher oz gloves

and yet again you feel faster only because you are going faster than you did with heavier gloves, but you're not going faster than your top speed that you can go, do you know what i mean?

if your best time in a 40 is 4.5, and you run with a huge boulder on your back, then when you take it off, it's not like your 40 is going to be any better than 4.5

it just doesn't work that way...

Actually.. higher oz gloves will produce quicker hands.. it's the entire principal behind resistance training. Take a look at it this way - why do people shadow box with light weights in their hands? 1) To build endurance in the shoulders and arms and 2) For hand speed. If you shadow box for 5 minutes with 3 lbs weights in each hand and then put them down and shadow box another 5 minutes you will not only feel a difference but see one as well. The boulder example is a good example to use as well. Runners who feel that they would like to work on running up hills better (cross country, etc) around here usually fill a backpack up with items such as phone books and then sprint up the hills. Take the backpack off after a while of training (I'm speaking of around a week or so) and they have a considerable enough difference between their times to make the exercise worth doing. I can see some benefits from using lighter gloves such as knowing the feel of throwing punches at a speed in which you compete with, etc. but higher oz gloves most definitely improve hand speed (over time, if used correctly).

My point was that a combination of both is what's going to help, not just weighted training. But yeah I know what yall mean and I think that all of us are getting confused in what we are trying to blurt out. Doing too much of one training isn't going to beat doing a balanced training schedule in my opinion.

P.S. I'm glad this isn't like the other forums where people get all offensive when trying to state their opinion over another persons.

My point was that a combination of both is what's going to help, not just weighted training. But yeah I know what yall mean and I think that all of us are getting confused in what we are trying to blurt out. Doing too much of one training isn't going to beat doing a balanced training schedule in my opinion.

P.S. I'm glad this isn't like the other forums where people get all offensive when trying to state their opinion over another persons.

You haven't gone to the lounge if you seriously think that.

You haven't gone to the lounge if you seriously think that.

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Lots of good info, threads, and media, but tons of haters and lowballers. It gets so annoying at times.

14's for me i try use 16's when there available the bigger the better in my opinion well to an extent i got bad hands but. It will tone you up with bigger gloves and make you quicker also get you used to the bigger gloves for sparring

Wrong, it wont make you quicker, it will build strengh not speed, power comes from speed.

nah it aint, theres only gonna be 10oz difference, they will get used to punching slow, its a fact, why are bag mits so light?

Because they do a specific job and are cheaper to make than a pair of 16oz gloves.

Wrong, it wont make you quicker, it will build strengh not speed, power comes from speed.
yeh speed+strength = power

Because they do a specific job and are cheaper to make than a pair of 16oz gloves.

no they are light so your arms get used to punching fast, i used to always think the heavier the glove the fast you will be when u put on 10's for a fight, it dont work that way.

yeh speed+strength = power

u need speed more than strength for power, you think if a car hits u at 10mph it will hurt if it hits you at 50mph u will likely die.

14's for me i try use 16's when there available the bigger the better in my opinion well to an extent i got bad hands but. It will tone you up with bigger gloves and make you quicker also get you used to the bigger gloves for sparring

work with bigger gloves for months and years and u will see a difference in handspeed with smaller 1s.

work with bigger gloves for months and years and u will see a difference in handspeed with smaller 1s.


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