Lewis stated that Williams has a chance at beating Vitali. He suggested that Williams should "work the cuts" b/c Vitali is prone to cuts.

I think Williams has an epsilon chance. Vitaly will KO7 Williams. ;) Lewis had predicted Sanders' win. He was wrong, and he will be wrong again.

Lewis does have a tooth against Vitali. I wonder why ? (!!!)


Done.

IM GOING FOR A SHOCK ON THIS ONE,

four reasons
1. Im English and it would be wrong of me to support Vitali! Nothing wrong with being partisan!

Secondly Danny is one of my fave fighters down to the Potter fight.

Thirdly he is lovely bloke and true gent.


Fourthly I believe he can do it.


Williams TKO 9 :eek:

bit short on time but i'll go into the reasons why tomorrow.
gotta run get to the pub England in a world cup qualifier in half hour, go on the Lions!

hows that for putting your balls on the rack! :cool:

Lewsi can say whatever he wants. You know this interviews of Lewis lately reminds me about Larry Holmes. I wonder why? By the way both Holmes and Lewis predicted an upset.
I can understand why holmes he is overall bitter and does not like white fighters(hell, he probably does not like anybody but white fighters more) but why Lewis. Is he bitter too.
he has accomplished a lot and has been recognised by the fans as at least top 5 fighter.
Makes me wonder.....

vitali must haver hit lewis harder than i origionally thought. funny thing is that he told him to work the cuts. i guess he doesn't have enough faith in williams actual boxing skill to win the fight.

I think Danny Williams has a chance but i would say on paper it's slim. The thing with Danny is he is unpredictable and 2 different people can turn up to fights. The first is a Danny who is laid back and his mind seems to be elsewhere or you get a focused Danny who is actually quite a aggressive fighter who can cause shocks by exceeding your expectations in him. I have no doubt that he is taking this fight very seriously and i most definatly don't think that he will get blown away easily like most people think too. My prediction is that if Vitali hasn't got rid of DAnny in 5 rounds then there could be a potential upset but the question is will Danny last the first few rounds. He seems to warm up more the longer the fight goes on so it should be interesting.

As we know Lennox hyped Sanders up alot to promote the fight and make Vitali look better than he is. Sanders fought like a warrior but lets face it, he was unfit and looked like a very old fighter. I don't think Lennox hates Vitali at all, i just think in this circumstance that Lennox would like to see a fellow Englishman win the heavyweight crown like most people do from the UK. As for the Vitali and cuts i don't believe Danny should be looking for that, Lennox hit Vitali with some huge hits and the power Lennox hit him with Danny simply doesn't have. I think he could hope for a points decision and a TKO of some kind but i would be really shocked if he KO'd Vitali, w have more chance of Bill Gates giving us all one million each. :D Of course we all have to keep the open mind that it is boxing and anything can happen.

Lewis is the Anti-Klitschko.

Lewis stated that Williams has a chance at beating Vitali. He suggested that Williams should "work the cuts" b/c Vitali is prone to cuts.

I think Williams has an epsilon chance. Vitaly will KO7 Williams. ;) Lewis had predicted Sanders' win. He was wrong, and he will be wrong again.

Lewis does have a tooth against Vitali. I wonder why ? (!!!)


Done.

Well we all know that Lewis retired because he knew that to fight Vitali again would mean that he would retire with a defeat. There was a reason the fans booed Lennox at the end of their fight.

Lennox couldn't help how that fight got stopped against Vitali. Either way if that fight would have continued Vitali was leading BUT could anyone easily say who would have won if it would have gone on? Lennox tagged Vitali with a nasty uppercut and stuff before it got stopped. A points situation can easily turn round in a fight like that. What did Lennox no favours was when he said to Larry after the fight that "I would have knocked him out anyway" because there was no signs of who would have won.

Lennox couldn't help how that fight got stopped against Vitali. Either way if that fight would have continued Vitali was leading BUT could anyone easily say who would have won if it would have gone on? Lennox tagged Vitali with a nasty uppercut and stuff before it got stopped. A points situation can easily turn round in a fight like that. What did Lennox no favours was when he said to Larry after the fight that "I would have knocked him out anyway" because there was no signs of who would have won.

True enough, but I seem to recall Lewis getting "tagged" quite a bit more than Vitali over the course of the fight. So it would only be logical to assume that, as exhausted as Lennox was at the point of the stoppage, and with Vitali dealing out the majority of the damage, it would have eventually been a late round (rnd 10 or 11, imo) kayo for Vitali.

True enough, but I seem to recall Lewis getting "tagged" quite a bit more than Vitali over the course of the fight. So it would only be logical to assume that, as exhausted as Lennox was at the point of the stoppage, and with Vitali dealing out the majority of the damage, it would have eventually been a late round (rnd 10 or 11, imo) kayo for Vitali.

Thats your opinion and i respect it completely, nobody will ever know now what would have happened but we all have our own views on it. That fight had a really entertaining build up too because of all the hype Vitali had. I never expected Vitali to be a last minute opponent when Kirk pulled out. :D I was really shocked.

that was one thing that pissed me off about lewis.... after not fighting for a year, he was gonna come back and fight kirk, the guy that just lost to ruiz.... kirk was completley unworthy of a title shot.... as we saw, lewis wasnt even training hard for the fight with kirk....

end of the day lewis beat him fair and square, thats boxing

if he retired because he might get beat then so what, you guys all take the piss out of holyfield sayin he's past it, so why reverse your opinions on lewis... just mad to totally contradict yourself just cause you all bum vk and dream that he is better than lewis

is this all because your heavy weight division is shot of talent

danny williams has a chance against vk, maybe not to bigger chance but there are ways he can win it

if he lasts more than 5 round then i can see an upset, vk will tire because of his stamina problem, especially if he is hit to the body often enough

i cant see vk knockin him down early rounds either, unless he becomes as powerfull as tyson and pounds on him like in the tyson fight.... but even that wasnt enough to stop danny

COME ON DANNY, BRING THE HEAVY WEIGHT CROWN BACK TO THE U.K

ENGLAND 3 : AZARBAJAN 0 - ROONEY , OWEN, ROONEY

that was one thing that pissed me off about lewis.... after not fighting for a year, he was gonna come back and fight kirk, the guy that just lost to ruiz.... kirk was completley unworthy of a title shot.... as we saw, lewis wasnt even training hard for the fight with kirk....

Lennox's camp chose Kirk because of his unbeaten record and the fact he hadn't been stopped before. They did it as a easy defense and maybe a warm-up before fighting Vitali but when Kirk pulled out they just thought to bring the fight forward.

kirk had already been beaten by ruiz, he was not undefeated... he also had a draw with al cole.... he in no way deserved a title shot

I think Danny Williams has a chance but i would say on paper it's slim. The thing with Danny is he is unpredictable and 2 different people can turn up to fights. The first is a Danny who is laid back and his mind seems to be elsewhere or you get a focused Danny who is actually quite a aggressive fighter who can cause shocks by exceeding your expectations in him. I have no doubt that he is taking this fight very seriously and i most definatly don't think that he will get blown away easily like most people think too. My prediction is that if Vitali hasn't got rid of DAnny in 5 rounds then there could be a potential upset but the question is will Danny last the first few rounds. He seems to warm up more the longer the fight goes on so it should be interesting.

As we know Lennox hyped Sanders up alot to promote the fight and make Vitali look better than he is. Sanders fought like a warrior but lets face it, he was unfit and looked like a very old fighter. I don't think Lennox hates Vitali at all, i just think in this circumstance that Lennox would like to see a fellow Englishman win the heavyweight crown like most people do from the UK. As for the Vitali and cuts i don't believe Danny should be looking for that, Lennox hit Vitali with some huge hits and the power Lennox hit him with Danny simply doesn't have. I think he could hope for a points decision and a TKO of some kind but i would be really shocked if he KO'd Vitali, w have more chance of Bill Gates giving us all one million each. :D Of course we all have to keep the open mind that it is boxing and anything can happen.
Hey Wez! Remember how buddy-buddy Lewis was with Sanders before his fight with Vitali? He wasn't after Sanders was TKOed. What a jerk!

I can respect the fact you limeys are rooting for your countrymen, but seriously Vitali is not gonna Stand in front of him drop his hands and let Danny boy unload 20 shots!!! This ******* got KTFO by Sam for christ sakes! You think he would have KTFO Vitali? I forsee a blow out VK by KO or TKO, remeber the champ has a 97% KO rate 97FUKIN%!!!!!!!!! :eek:

i dont think williams would of beat tyson, had it not been for the knee

Funny how he tells him to do the exact same thing that he did in order to beat Vitali without which he would have lost.

as great a champ as lewis was
Work the Cuts? wtf is that ****
As far as i can remember the only fight where cuts played a role in vits fight was against lewis
now hes prone to cuts?
does he know williams is fightin klitschko and not gatti?
for being such a knowledable veteran lewis gave some dumb ass advice
so general
you could tell that to any fighter about t fight anyone
"hey dis guys been cut b4 try to cut him, cuz other then that you have no fukin chance. ok heres what ya do cut him with a clean punch but i ya cant then tape a razor to your glove and cut him. we'll need to put ur hair in braids or dread locks whatever the fuk i have so you can make the cut worse by rubbin those cornrows in his eye. and thats how you'll beat vitali. o and remember to plop down on your stool the last round, thatll help convince people you wer ejust warming up and getting ready to finish him"

Hey Wez! Remember how buddy-buddy Lewis was with Sanders before his fight with Vitali? He wasn't after Sanders was TKOed. What a jerk!

I cannot dispute things like that but he was a friendly reserved person outside of the ring.

I hate Lewis allmostas muchas V&WK,but there is no way to see that Vit would ever win that fight.He's ****ing too big,slow and less shaped.And most of all,V&WK are whimps.Really heroes against some bumfighters,but when they fight against somebody even little good,they afraid and it make them too stiff.

i havent seen that happen to VK

I hate Lewis allmostas muchas V&WK,but there is no way to see that Vit would ever win that fight.He's ****ing too big,slow and less shaped.And most of all,V&WK are whimps.Really heroes against some bumfighters,but when they fight against somebody even little good,they afraid and it make them too stiff.

ya vk was stiff against lewis
no wait that was his right hand and left jab
thats what was stiff

ya vk was stiff against lewis
no wait that was his right hand and left jab
thats what was stiff


LMFAO/ROTF

thats the way i saw it too.

Vitali is a class act

Get A Grip And Stop Being Jealous Of Lewis,m He Was A Class Act And The Best Heavy Weight Of His Time, Just Because Vk Put On A Bit Of A Show Against A Lewis That Was Being Affected By Age, Does Not Mean He Is The Better Fghter

None Of These Heavyweights Today Are Anywhere Near As Good As Lewis Was, So Get A Fukin Grip And Stop Moaning About The Best Heavyweight Champ We Have Had In The Last Ever So Many Years

Williams by decision.

Get A Grip And Stop Being Jealous Of Lewis,m He Was A Class Act And The Best Heavy Weight Of His Time, Just Because Vk Put On A Bit Of A Show Against A Lewis That Was Being Affected By Age, Does Not Mean He Is The Better Fghter

None Of These Heavyweights Today Are Anywhere Near As Good As Lewis Was, So Get A Fukin Grip And Stop Moaning About The Best Heavyweight Champ We Have Had In The Last Ever So Many Years

amen. :cool:

Ha ha ha, Williams by dec....what sillyness. Klit will stop Danny Williams in 6 or 7 rounds. I think Williams will have a go but the size, world level experience and power will tell.
V Klitscko is the real deal in the heavyweights right now and the sooner people wake up to that, the better it is for everyone!

Yeah, the man has a chance, after all, neither of the Klit brothers has that great of a chin. Besides, I have said for years that the Euro stance they use is tailor made for a big puncher to knock them stiff as a board....

vk took shots from two of the biggest punchers in the division, lewis and sanders, and he doesnt have that good of a chin?????????????

Vitali is a class act



Yeah, you can tell by the way the other brother acts when one gets knocked out... :eek: :mad:

vk took shots from two of the biggest punchers in the division, lewis and sanders, and he doesnt have that good of a chin?????????????

Both Lewis and Sanders were well past their prime when they fought. VK should have been able to sweep the ring with either of them, but alas, he just didn't have the stones or the skills to get the job done, too robotic, too predictable, little upper body movement, sloppy footwork, I am not impressed by either of the brothers K...

Both Lewis and Sanders were well past their prime when they fought. VK should have been able to sweep the ring with either of them, but alas, he just didn't have the stones or the skills to get the job done, too robotic, too predictable, little upper body movement, sloppy footwork, I am not impressed by either of the brothers K...


lewis and sanders were still big punchers and vk took their bets shots.... so the point is VK can take a punch....

You know what I just realized. Lennox Lewis announced his retirement in February 2004 and just two month's prior in December of 2003 Vitali destroyed Johnson who was supposed to be Lewis's opponent the night Vitali fought. Why do I get the feeling that if things were different the night Vitali fought Johnson and Vitali did not look good against Johnson but still pulled out a decision over Johnson, maybe just maybe Lewis might have considered giving Vitali his rematch rather than retiring two months after. :D

Vitali Klitcsko will lose in my opinion to Danny Williams, I think coming off the Tyson fight he wants to prove he is not a Buster Douglass. I think Danny will win by 10th roung KO.

You know what I just realized. Lennox Lewis announced his retirement in February 2004 and just two month's prior in December of 2003 Vitali destroyed Johnson who was supposed to be Lewis's opponent the night Vitali fought. Why do I get the feeling that if things were different the night Vitali fought Johnson and Vitali did not look good against Johnson but still pulled out a decision over Johnson, maybe just maybe Lewis might have considered giving Vitali his rematch rather than retiring two months after. :D

Because that is probably right. On the day of the fight Lewis was at a good friends weddings and he called Steward to find out his take on the fight. Steward told Lewis that there was a 50-50 chance that Vitali would lose. Boy was he off. Talk about giving Lewis false hope.

Every great fighter gotta have his archenemy.
Too bad Lewis found one only after he was retired

vk took shots from two of the biggest punchers in the division, lewis and sanders, and he doesnt have that good of a chin?????????????


hahaha ya man
u rite VK has a chin
never been ko'd

Methamphetamine user, or whatever the **** you call yourself, news flash, vk was winning that fight before he got stopped on cuts, ok?

You know what I just realized. Lennox Lewis announced his retirement in February 2004 and just two month's prior in December of 2003 Vitali destroyed Johnson who was supposed to be Lewis's opponent the night Vitali fought. Why do I get the feeling that if things were different the night Vitali fought Johnson and Vitali did not look good against Johnson but still pulled out a decision over Johnson, maybe just maybe Lewis might have considered giving Vitali his rematch rather than retiring two months after. :D
did you see how fat johnson was it was sick you cant be serious ever good fighter vitali fought was fat .. lewis sanders and johnson all came in out of shape and lewis tko him

Soundtraveler, I'm not an expert, but the slower you are, it seems like you would be affected less by age, that's why Lewis actually improved with age. So don't go using that excuse, because I saw no difference in him as a fighter from his recent outings at the time, and he WAS already in training, right? IMO, if he would have trained really hard he would have performed about the same as he did in the VK fight, period.

Lewis had a ****ing six-pack, are you kidding me? Are you just posting this bull**** to **** with me?

Methamphetamine user, or whatever the **** you call yourself, news flash, vk was winning that fight before he got stopped on cuts, ok?
he might of been winning on point but lewis was landing bigger punches even fat and over weight ... you know ALI left the fight when he saw how fat lewis was after the first round

And contrary to what Brewster says, I saw no resemblance bewteen Cory Sanders and Elvis Presly in his last concert, that is just ****ing stupid. Sanders would have ko'd Lewis if he had had the balls to fight Sanders.

Over fighting weight, OK. But fat? are you crazy? delusional? Out of shape? He was in training to fight Kirk Johnson.

This is the type of **** I'm talking about. Nobody wants to acknowledge Sanders' handspeed, or punching power, instead, they insist on downplaying Sanders' skills, pathetic.

Lewis stated that Williams has a chance at beating Vitali. He suggested that Williams should "work the cuts" b/c Vitali is prone to cuts.

I think Williams has an epsilon chance. Vitaly will KO7 Williams. ;) Lewis had predicted Sanders' win. He was wrong, and he will be wrong again.

Lewis does have a tooth against Vitali. I wonder why ? (!!!)


Done. Your full of ****, Williams will KO that big no skill Vitali, he is a paper champ who has beaten no one .

Just because some of the fans dont see any skill in a fighter does not mean he lacks it.
It looks like everybody is judgung V.Klit by his last fight against Sanders. Well let me explain where are you wrong. Just cause fighter used limited offensive arsenal does not mean it is limited at all. It only means the used arsenal was the best tool to win the fight.
Second. Defense. Lack of defense usually lead to losing rounds or getting Ko'ed. Well if you are not dumb you will get the point.
Denny Williams'es power. I dont get it where in the fight did you see big power. Look if you need 30 punches to ko washed up and injured Tyson, who was already knocked by many other fighters, it onlu shows that you need more heavybag workout. I really dont think that Vit will let him land 2 punches let alone 30.
So go ahead bash me for my opinion. But i really count on intelligent response and not some moronic bull****

This is the type of **** I'm talking about. Nobody wants to acknowledge Sanders' handspeed, or punching power, instead, they insist on downplaying Sanders' skills, pathetic.

Obviously, I can't think of a harder hitting southpaw than Sanders, but people insist on hating on him.

I can knock out danny williams amd lennox lewis I am a light heavy weight boxer so and we all konw vitali would have knocked out lewis if not for all this little things they do and they stoped the fight . Lewis does not like vitali so he bets on every body to beat vitali.

vk took shots from two of the biggest punchers in the division, lewis and sanders, and he doesnt have that good of a chin?????????????

I think you have typed Tarver in your P4P by mistake! :p

Ha ha ha, Williams by dec....what sillyness. Klit will stop Danny Williams in 6 or 7 rounds. I think Williams will have a go but the size, world level experience and power will tell.
V Klitscko is the real deal in the heavyweights right now and the sooner people wake up to that, the better it is for everyone!
williams got the size he got 15 -20 pounds on klit and he shorter...females lol

If Williams came in shape and fought like a desperate man, and i mean like a hobo fighting for food, there's the chance of an upset, but i'd be surprised if that happens

Your full of ****, Williams will KO that big no skill Vitali, he is a paper champ who has beaten no one .


Hey Sem,

Remember this post?

Hey Sem,

Remember this post?
you should have waited for the 1 year ann. atleast.:rolleyes:

Hey Sem,

Remember this post?


He must've felt like a real ass afterwards. lol

you should have waited for the 1 year ann. atleast.:rolleyes:


...OMG, I forgot all about that semen jossler guy. What a ****in tool that guy was.

...OMG, I forgot all about that semen jossler guy. What a ****in tool that guy was.
I think he drowned.....................:bukkake:

Lewis stated that Williams has a chance at beating Vitali. He suggested that Williams should "work the cuts" b/c Vitali is prone to cuts.

I think Williams has an epsilon chance. Vitaly will KO7 Williams. ;) Lewis had predicted Sanders' win. He was wrong, and he will be wrong again.

Lewis does have a tooth against Vitali. I wonder why ? (!!!)


Done.

Lewis wanted to fight again but didn't want to get his ass kicked by a properly prepared Vitali. This is proof that Vitali KlitschkO retired Lewis.:owned:

lets all ressurect some super dead threads for no reason. And Lennox acheived more than any klitchsko ever will. end.

Lennox got past all this.

For about two years he was bitter. He did in fact retire to avoid rematching Vitali, and he held a grudge with both Klitschkos. But like a man, he moved on. Today he shows little to no resentment when he does commentary for a Wlad fight.

lets all ressurect some super dead threads for no reason. And Lennox acheived more than any klitchsko ever will. end.

There was a thread yesterday with a poll asking if Lewis retired because of Vitali, that's why I bumped the thread. I agree that Lewis has achieved more than either Klitschko, but LL still retired to avoid Vitali. Wlad has a chance to achieve more than LL. Wlad is ahead of where Lewis was at the same point (33) of their careers.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:!!!!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40621000/jpg/_40621979_klitschkoko270.jpg

Interesting thread.

Some people were predicting a Williams win I see...

It took Vitali 4 years to get over this fight.

Danny Williams scarred him.

This was a fabulous TKO win for Danny.

HUMDILLA!