View Full Version : UFC is getting screwed here..big time! lol


gandhalf
02-05-2007, 10:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdjYwJ9CZ0

lmao!

flipside
02-05-2007, 11:13 PM
pride>ufc IMO

i3raintwo
02-05-2007, 11:23 PM
dude foreal, but for as long as cro cop is gonna be in the ufc people will watch so for the time being whites gonna make money.

Tysonisgod
02-05-2007, 11:29 PM
i think cro cop is a bit over rated just now goin into ufc and people sayin he is goin to clean up, tim silvia although not a great fighter is a dangerous one, and there is plenty of heavyweights who could give cro cop trouble, like they said at the weekend, these guys have been fightin in japan against good fighters but who has seen then, ufc is where they want to be

75th
02-05-2007, 11:33 PM
Here is a fact.

UFC makes more money then Pride, this coupled with the fact that Pride doesn't have a TV deal in it's native land, is why Pride is going to go bankrupt in the very near future if it doesn't get bought out by one of the people or companies looking to purchase it.

Anybody who disagrees, I can post a number of articles that say the exact same thing.

Now as far as quality of fighters goes, yes Pride does have the better and deeper fighters, that isn't up for deabte. But who is getting more and more new, quality fighters to bolster their depth charts? The UFC.

75th
02-05-2007, 11:35 PM
i think cro cop is a bit over rated just now goin into ufc and people sayin he is goin to clean up, tim silvia although not a great fighter is a dangerous one, and there is plenty of heavyweights who could give cro cop trouble, like they said at the weekend, these guys have been fightin in japan against good fighters but who has seen then, ufc is where they want to be

Pride's heavyweight divison is head and shoulders above the UFC's, infact the heavies is the UFC's weakest division.

Cro Cop will rape everybody in it, as Tim can't outstrike Cro Cop, and if it did happen to go to the ground, with Cro Cop spending all of the time he has training with his stable mate Werdum, Cro Cop easily subs him or G n P's him to a cake walk victory.

gandhalf
02-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Pride's heavyweight divison is head and shoulders above the UFC's, infact the heavies is the UFC's weakest division.

Cro Cop will rape everybody in it, as Tim can't outstrike Cro Cop, and if it did happen to go to the ground, with Cro Cop spending all of the time he has training with his stable mate Werdum, Cro Cop easily subs him or G n P's him to a cake walk victory.

I think people will be in for a big surprise soon.
He's unknown in the states. (At least to the average TUF fan..)
So far , Crocop did nothing spectacular. He was pretty much bored.
He was just chasing Sanchez and trying to land something here and there...
But **** , the guy was ****ing bored..He just wanted to get his paycheck and get it over with..

Once and if , Crocop is forced to actually "fight" It's gonna be unique.
There's never been a kicker like that in the ufc. Never.
If He manages to land a flush HK , the american fans are gonna go ape **** for this guy.

Even though sanchez was no match...He was very lucky in his loss.
At least He never had to endure what Silva or Igor Had to go through.

Vera , Arlovski , Sylvia...These guys can't compare.

aspect
02-06-2007, 12:29 AM
I really think sanchez is scared against cro cop.

cro cop is just stalking him.

but if cro cop does his trademark left high kick that sends his opp. to dream land all ufc fans will be awed by the site and I imagine those real mma fans and those croatians shouting as ifTHAT IS CRO COP!!!

vinnie7731
02-06-2007, 07:44 AM
I agree, cro cop will dominate the heavy weight division without a doubt. there is no one in the ufc that he cant beat.

gandhalf
02-06-2007, 08:17 AM
the only way i see this guy losing is by disqualification...or maybe a fluke...But naah! He already had a taste of that and he's not gonna underestimate no one.

Liaison
02-06-2007, 08:49 AM
I had a dream that Cheick Kongo knocked him out in a car park, I think it’s a premonition of sorts.

Sn1gger
02-06-2007, 10:19 AM
http://www.notifight.com/artman/uploads/delahoyaninord.jpg
sorry to go off thread, but this is so funny,

delahoya looking to cement his legacy with a win over the "next"
floyd mayweather

pride and k1 have more exciting fights but im defo feeling the ufc.
i hated the ground game but ive been getting to like it more n more.

pride events are good but anybody can beat anybody it sometimes
seems, which sorta takes away from the story/drama that i love.

thats what sets ufc apart IMO, they have great characters and
the surprises usually arent just koes via knee, elbow or highkick.
also they look more professional, alot of the k1/pride fighters just
look like ur local muscleman without great technical ability

Tysonisgod
02-06-2007, 08:27 PM
i think randy couture could clean up again

gandhalf
02-06-2007, 11:07 PM
i think randy couture could clean up again

(Why do you hate brit boxers and not scots?)
Randy Couture? Clean up , what , ufc's hw division?
Hard to tell...
One thing I do know is that He wouldn't beat ufc's ex-pride fighter , Mirko Filipovic.
So even if He beats Sylvia , he wouldn't stay "champ" for long.

On the ground , Couture wouldn't do **** to a guy like Mirko.
This isn't 2002 or 2003 anymore...
Back then , He was subbed by Nogueira but He knew some basics and nothing more.
Today , the guy is trained by Werdum.
The guy dominates barnett at his own game. (wrestling)
and had to constantly defend ground attacks from Fedor... "the" Fedor.

As far as Couture vs sylvia is concerned..That's a mystery.
Although , Couture said that He already had many sparring sessions with Tim.

Sn1gger
02-07-2007, 05:18 PM
isnt couture gonna be tiny in comparison ? plus i thought couture usually
gets stopped at heavyweight.

Tysonisgod
02-07-2007, 06:53 PM
yea everythin your saying is true, but i think randy beats tim standing or on ground, unless his age really does take its toll, and for cro cop i still say he is over rated and his ground game and tale down defence is not the best, but still good, id say randy has a chance of beatin him, and cro cop would give him alot of respect.....
(Why do you hate brit boxers and not scots?) i was kiddin on about the scottish thing i jst said it cos im scottish, but i hate brit fighters(including scots) because they see themself as the best(mostly english) and say ohh this guy wont come over here and fight me....why not go over there on the bigger stage and fight him thats IMO

gandhalf
02-08-2007, 07:54 AM
yea everythin your saying is true, but i think randy beats tim standing or on ground, unless his age really does take its toll, and for cro cop i still say he is over rated and his ground game and tale down defence is not the best, but still good, id say randy has a chance of beatin him, and cro cop would give him alot of respect.....
(Why do you hate brit boxers and not scots?) i was kiddin on about the scottish thing i jst said it cos im scottish, but i hate brit fighters(including scots) because they see themself as the best(mostly english) and say ohh this guy wont come over here and fight me....why not go over there on the bigger stage and fight him thats IMO

I think he's very far from being overrated.
I will say this though..

There's 2 major problems that I have with this guy.

1) Each time He gets over confident. He ****s things up.
It's as if He always needs this "reality check" (loss) moment in his career to "keep it real". And not be full of Himself.

His loss vs Randleman. Totally useless.
Sure , He won His rematch in less than 40 seconds.
But that's the **** I'm talking about.
He had to go through this , in order to take his opponent "seriously".
That's a huge weakness imo.

2nd) Major problem.
That guy doesn't have the heart of a champion.
Or maybe today He does. (He did a great job at pride's OWGP).
But that's the feeling I'm getting from this guy.

In the end , Tyson never had what it takes either.
Tyson would always have some sort of temp mental breakdown or He would get pissed , frustrated...each time none of his punches had any effects on his opponents or if he was getting outboxed.
He couldn't keep his calm and would **** it up.
He did it vs williams , McBride , Lennox , Douglas...in all his losses...
He even did it vs Botha. (even though He still won that one).

Holyfield had the heart of a champ.
In mma , Nogueira has what it takes too. Same goes for Fedor. (and a few others).

I don't know if the Mirko of 2007 has totally changed.
But If He's really as motivated as He was during pride's last grand prix.
Then no one's gonna stop Him.
Otherwise.

A possible fluke could strike again. Even vs a lesser skilled opponent.
If He starts to take his opponents like pure "jokes".
He'll pay for it big time.

neils7147933
02-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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Greedy bastards...

RwK
02-08-2007, 04:16 PM
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Greedy bastards...

It was a conspiracy video that made me laugh a bit.

The whole idea centered around Mirko entering the UFC to the PRIDE theme, and there was a Sakakabura (PRIDE C.E.O.) statement about how Mirko was their "secret weapon".

Remember when Rogan asked Mirko to "walk him through the knockout"? and Mirko was totally silent? lol there was a line of text in the video something to the effect of: "ya ya, I don't give a ****".

Afterwards Mirko didn't show up at the presser either and White was pissed.

robot_monkey
02-08-2007, 04:21 PM
I agree with the guy who was talking about heart of a champion. Nogueira and Fedor definitely have it. Couture has it. GSP has it. Henzo Gracie has it. It comes with great intellectual development; understanding oneself.

2swell k-wells
02-08-2007, 05:05 PM
It was a conspiracy video that made me laugh a bit.

The whole idea centered around Mirko entering the UFC to the PRIDE theme, and there was a Sakakabura (PRIDE C.E.O.) statement about how Mirko was their "secret weapon".

Remember when Rogan asked Mirko to "walk him through the knockout"? and Mirko was totally silent? lol there was a line of text in the video something to the effect of: "ya ya, I don't give a ****".

Afterwards Mirko didn't show up at the presser either and White was pissed.

He used the entrance music from pride as a respect and goodbye to the organization, not to make him seem like he's taking over and repping them. And White shouldve gave him a better fight than sanchez cause Cro Cop did look pretty bored chasing him around. Before the fight cro cop looked more cooler than the ice man chuck liddell, they need to give him bigger names next time to show him whats up.

X_Legend_X
02-08-2007, 05:53 PM
aha.. i enjoy the UFC

Atnan
02-08-2007, 11:52 PM
who cares, whoever fights cro-cop next is getting knocked the **** out! hes gonna train his ass off b/c he needs to win this one big! if he does, its title shot! cro-cop new champ before the end of the year!

2swell k-wells
02-09-2007, 01:03 AM
hopefully randy wins on 68 then fights cro cop, lotsa respect there from both fighters. I would still want Couture win though but still give cro cop someone else, i know cro cop would win but let him have fun and actually try this time. I want to see this pig go all out against a better fighter.

Atnan
02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
hopefully randy wins on 68 then fights cro cop, lotsa respect there from both fighters. I would still want Couture win though but still give cro cop someone else, i know cro cop would win but let him have fun and actually try this time. I want to see this pig go all out against a better fighter.

couture stated that he wont fight cro-cop! everyone pretty much knows he has no chance on taking him down! if coleman couldnt, couture has no chance! also their is a really high chance of him getting knocked the **** out really bad, so i dont see it happeneing! if it does, iam not watching it

Sn1gger
02-10-2007, 08:57 PM
couture stated that he wont fight cro-cop! everyone pretty much knows he has no chance on taking him down! if coleman couldnt, couture has no chance! also their is a really high chance of him getting knocked the **** out really bad, so i dont see it happeneing! if it does, iam not watching iti bet you would watch it......................eventually

Atnan
02-10-2007, 09:23 PM
i bet you would watch it......................eventually

ohh yeah of course...your talking about a kid who`s watched every pride and ufc fight, along with a boat load of shotto and other mma organizations, almost every main event(hbo, shotime, ppv) boxing fight in the last 5 years!