View Full Version : Losing my hunger for fighting...
Kid Achilles 01-31-2007, 04:18 PM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
The Surgeon 01-31-2007, 04:22 PM Ive been meaning to get back 2 boxing since Jan started! Cant be ****ed! Ive not got the drive for it just yet!
BrooklynBomber 01-31-2007, 04:24 PM You should get badly insulted and smacked up, always helped me to regain my hunger of hurting people.
Kid Achilles 01-31-2007, 04:25 PM You know, maybe a big part of it is the season. There's no ****ing way you'll see me running in the morning with temperatures approaching and passing the 0 point. For me running fired me up in the morning and kind of pulled everything together. It facilitated that feeling of "hard physical work, awesome!" that's needed for boxing. Boxing without roadwork is like trying to get into school mode without doing some reading on your own.
Let's add that to the list of reasons.
Exige Jr 01-31-2007, 04:31 PM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
Actually this may cause you to be more motivated some time along the line again....
The Surgeon 01-31-2007, 04:33 PM You know, maybe a big part of it is the season. There's no ****ing way you'll see me running in the morning with temperatures approaching and passing the 0 point. For me running fired me up in the morning and kind of pulled everything together. It facilitated that feeling of "hard physical work, awesome!" that's needed for boxing. Boxing without roadwork is like trying to get into school mode without doing some reading on your own.
Let's add that to the list of reasons.
Ive never been a big runner, i did alot of sparring and bag work and my Am career was good! But it is said to be a major part of it yeah
juggernautburn 01-31-2007, 04:37 PM so how long have you been boxing? i haven't been to a gym since like september or something and i still want to box heh. i also started kinda late at 20. and the brain damage thing. heh, i'll have most of my opponents out before the 3rd round, so i'm not worried about it.
juggernautburn 01-31-2007, 04:45 PM plus i think i will be a world champion someday. no...**** that. i will be THE world champion someday.
phillies04 01-31-2007, 05:31 PM I can tell you a few things that got me into boxing recently. One is for more self confidence, I never had tons of it so I thought this would help some. Second of all I'm tired of people at work putting me down and all the people throughout my life that said I'm no good or I can't do this or that!!!
-Antonio- 01-31-2007, 07:14 PM Just as recently as two weeks ago I started rethinking my decisian to start boxing. My coach was gone for a week due to a death in the family, and I didnt train one day. On top of that I started going out and drinking with my friends again. I even smoked up for the first time since I started :puppy_dog.
The next Tuesday morning when he called me, I was so hung over and just had gone to sleep. I looked at my cell phone and watched it ring all the way through. I seriously thought about quiting. I slept in most of the day, and then woke up and felt guilty as hell. I called up my coach the next morning real early and went back to training. Boy it was like starting all over again. I was dead after 3 rounds on the bag, and I felt like I had to learn everything all over again. It was a long week for me, but Im dedicated again. I even started waking up early and running, which is amazing considering I ****ing hate running with a passion. I also decided to do my diet the right way. No low carb ****. I felt so weak without carbs, and I should have been smart enough to kick that earlier.
Im feeling good right now. Boxing is something I really want to be good at. Im not saying I want to be a pro because thats not in my future, but Im dedicated to atleast being a good amatuer.
Then again, I havent been hit yet...
potatoes 01-31-2007, 10:16 PM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
Tony Zale once said that boxing is the only sport that never went to college. You went to college and forgot about boxing. Not hard to understand.
Tysonisgod 01-31-2007, 10:18 PM maybe you just shouldnt fight then?
Versastyle 01-31-2007, 10:19 PM yeah to box u need heart into it and if its not there your practically wasting your time. i fell into that for 3 months 2 years ago where i didnt feel like going,until i said **** it im going.
mgkirkpatrick 01-31-2007, 11:25 PM better to acknowledge and accept it then keep going with something u arent really whole hearted about.
mgkirkpatrick 01-31-2007, 11:25 PM where's the vid exige?
phallus 02-01-2007, 12:36 AM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
i still love boxing, even though i know now i'm never gonna be a pro. i used to want it so bad, even now, sometimes when i watch a fight i do find myself wishing i was in there, but i'm arthritic, hog fat, and past prime... as soon as i think about it, i realize i'll never be even a fraction of what i used to be and then it doesn't bother me. i just don't have it anymore, i know i could have been a good pro, knocked out some club fighters ... but everybody eventually gets old. i still train though, if i stop i miss it too much
Animal Squabbs 02-01-2007, 03:46 AM Ive noticed that I have lost a little of my ferociousness. I used to go all out like a ****in madman in the gym. Now Ive kinda slowed down a little bit. Maybe its cause I gained weight, maybe cause its cold in the gym. I dont know, but I lost a little meaness. I'll get it back though.
DA1CATAS 02-01-2007, 12:49 PM Hopefully I will reach one of you out there.. I encourage you all to train...as hard as possible...act like your already pro...or turning pro soon....because without boxers the sport will disappear... This deeply concerns me... I dont want it to be forgotten in America...
You have to have a different side... you might laugh but i'm serious... You can't be the same person you are in the ring outside of it... You must set part of your mind and body, drive, motivation,anger,enjoyment, and every other emotional feeling that you can think of aside for time to train...
Anger is a very expensive motivation....It wears on everything... but it works the best... for anyone having motivational problems.. dont hurt yourself but find ways other than this.
I hate this topic and hate to see you guys talk about quiting:nonono: or giving up and so on... and not having the passion....Your affecting me directly....
I think of being the biggest name to ever wear a pear of gloves...But no Great fighters became legends without great opponents...So My dream can't come true if no one else is dreaming of the same thing....So when I hear of people not just in my weightclass but any ones surrounding mine talkin about dropping it all.. I hurt:nonono: ...that could have been the guy that makes me a legend...
You might look at me as ****y or just talkin ****:nonono: .. I'm serious about what I do... I've started moderately late at 20... so I have to make up alot.. but I'm learning something new everyday... If you guys won't help bring the sport back up... Then fallback and support someone you think can do it... Motivate others... The sport needs it... Do it that one favor atleast!
Catastrophe
BmoreBrawler 02-01-2007, 01:00 PM I love boxing too, but in some ways it deserves to die. Its the most noble sport, but its basically dying a "survival of the fittest" type death as the mental and physical health effects of the sport hardly lead to survival.
-Antonio- 02-01-2007, 01:26 PM Hopefully I will reach one of you out there.. I encourage you all to train...as hard as possible...act like your already pro...or turning pro soon....because without boxers the sport will disappear... This deeply concerns me... I dont want it to be forgotten in America...
You have to have a different side... you might laugh but i'm serious... You can't be the same person you are in the ring outside of it... You must set part of your mind and body, drive, motivation,anger,enjoyment, and every other emotional feeling that you can think of aside for time to train...
Anger is a very expensive motivation....It wears on everything... but it works the best... for anyone having motivational problems.. dont hurt yourself but find ways other than this.
I hate this topic and hate to see you guys talk about quiting:nonono: or giving up and so on... and not having the passion....Your affecting me directly....
I think of being the biggest name to ever wear a pear of gloves...But no Great fighters became legends without great opponents...So My dream can't come true if no one else is dreaming of the same thing....So when I hear of people not just in my weightclass but any ones surrounding mine talkin about dropping it all.. I hurt:nonono: ...that could have been the guy that makes me a legend...
You might look at me as ****y or just talkin ****:nonono: .. I'm serious about what I do... I've started moderately late at 20... so I have to make up alot.. but I'm learning something new everyday... If you guys won't help bring the sport back up... Then fallback and support someone you think can do it... Motivate others... The sport needs it... Do it that one favor atleast!
Catastrophe
Good post.
Bucktown Beast 02-01-2007, 03:36 PM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
I'm actually right with ya man. I started training a few months ago after a year long layoff from shoulder surgery. And the **** just wasn't the same at all for me. Sparred a couple of times, had some good spars, some bad, but overall I just realized I was putting an uneccessary burden on my mind and body. When I leave the gym, if I didn't do as good as I know I couldve then Im hard on myself, I take it WAY too seriously. For something that is supposed to be a "hobby" I stress over it way too much. Being that this is a pride driven sport and Im a particularly pride driven person, that can sometimes prove to counterproductive.
For me boxing isnt like playing basketball, a sport I look forward to doing because its fun. Its a sport that I dig real deep down for and often times FORCE myself to do. Just do it to test myself and my courage, can't punk out, cant be afraid of someone. And this is from someone who has a chronic muscle syndrome that causes my muscles a lot of pain and slow healing time after extreme exertion. The days following a tough sparring match would leave my muscles and joints in excrutiating pain and have me feeling like I got run over by a truck for an entire week or more.
Boxing has caused me a serious eye injury that took months to heal, a slipped disk in my back that left me unable to walk for a week and unable to work out for 2 months, a bruised rib, a dislocated shoulder and a severe head pain that caused me to rush to the ER at 3am cuz it felt like I was having an aneurism.Yet I still subjected myself to that **** over and over and over.
Its all that macho **** I was raised on. I have done it time in and time out and I don't know what else I need to prove. I've won my bouts, took home a heavyweight tournament championship and now I am thinking about moving on. My body and mind are running out of the desire to put up with the stress. The motivation comes and goes.
The only thing is that I truly have a fighting spirit and sometimes I find it hard to walk away from the sport even though I don't particularly like it. Something about it calls me back all the time but I know I need to overcome that.
triggerhappy 02-01-2007, 08:32 PM I to also lost the hunger to fight to. To be a great fighter you have to give up a lot of things in life like paryting, drinking, smokeing and i was not ready to give up these things. You only have one life so you have to enjoy every minute of it.
RockyMarcianofan00 02-01-2007, 09:15 PM Looking at this thread is alittle depressing because of everyone thats lost there drive to fight..
Unfortunately however I'm in the same boat. I started boxing about March of 2005 and when I started I loved it. I loved working out getting stronger and fit and being able to fight. I hate to use this excuse but its what happened. Last April I cut my thumb up bad (non boxing injury) and needed stiches. I couldn't use the thumb for about 2 months and couldn't do much of any physical conditioning.
So for two months I didn't do anything. It was me and my friend that used to go to the gym (he'd had a year of boxing expierence over me) so when I got my stitches out he had said he was taking a vacation from boxing, so I said whats another month. He's been going back on and off and I just really haven't the passion to go back. I mean I'd like to go back because I've gained more weight than I wanted, and I lost muscle because I basically stopped working out.
I'm currently trying to get my **** together (sleeping schdelue, academics, etc) so I can begin working out again. I'm gunna start lifting again, maybe do alittle roadwork in my spare time but I don't know if I'll make it back to the gym. I never really wanted to go to far in boxing, I wanted to have a few fights and go on with my life and go on to my career etc...
Hopefully I'll make it back to the gym eventually but I've lost ambition to do alot of things in my life...
Maybe its winter, then again maybe its not :nonono:
Trick 02-01-2007, 09:52 PM Honestly, winter blows, it sucks the fun outta everything
But really, I guess I understand why so many people lose their motivation. We box competitivly not really for fitness, but for something else. Whatever that is can be anything, but the reality is, there are better things for fitness. Boxing requires you do be a near perfect athlete, but the injuries are in no way worth it physiologically. Personally though, the older I get (I'm 19) the more into boxing I get. Some get old, some lose the drive to be constantly working out/eating right. I can understand that, and I wouldn't be suprised if 10 years from now I might have "lost it", but for now, for me, that's the farthest thing from possibility.
Others lose the will to mangle someone else... That's understandable. We all use anger in the ring to some extent. When I'm in a fight, be it in the ring, streets, whatever, I'm a different person. At the same time, I've never been out to kill the otherguy, so I've never had to worry about losing the motivation to do so. Now I've never fought a ranked fight (yet), but when I'm in a fight, my goal is to win the fight, not hurt the other guy. A lot of times, you gotta hurt him to win, but that's not the point. I personally see it more as fighting BACK than fighting... ahhhhh this is making no sense at all when I read over it. I'm sure we have our own philosophies. But to those of you losing for will to knock someone out. Ya, that's a part of the game, but remember, well at least I try to remember, I fight so I can win, not so the other guy can lose. It's a competition like any other.
Eventually, we all gotta deal with the injuries and everything, and decide if it's worth the sacrifice. I'm an undergrad now, and I plan on goin' to med school, but still, I find boxing to be worth it for me. Since I was 4, I've considered myself a boxer. We've all got our reasons for boxing, and our influences, but I'd hazard a guess that many of us have had to deal with some tough **** (or at least most boxers have), that have molded us into what we are. Most of us were fighters long before we got into the ring. And I don't mean fighter in the thug sense, but the mental sense. Over the years, I've fallen of the wagon every now in then when it comes to my fitness, boxing ability and so on, but every time I do, it eventually drives me nuts, because boxing's just a part of me now, or I guess always was.
So before you give it up, remember, despite the injuries, the sacrifices and everything, if boxing is what you want to do deep down, like it's a part of you, it will be worse for YOU if you give it up. Maybe better for you brain, your joints, your stomach, your social life, whatever, but if you are a BOXER than not for YOU. In the end, you've just gotta know yourself. If you're really a boxer, in all the meanings that the word implies, then you owe it to yourself to push it to the max of your ability, until you HAVE to stop, not want to.
Well Alright, that's huge and preachy, which isn't how I meant to come off. To all of you losing your motivation, just do some reflecting, if this is for you, you'll know deep down.
Peace,
Trick
btw, achilles, I understand your situation. You seem to know your stuff, so it's tough that you're stoppin' the boxin', but you seem to know your **** well enough to know what's best for you. Good luck with it,
Haha, and DA1CATAS, I accept the challenge, I'll see you in 6 years bro...
Chipper 02-01-2007, 10:20 PM It sucks to see people losing their hunger for fighting!!!
God damn I haven't even been fed yet!!!! I starving over here!!!
Ukr_Alex 02-01-2007, 11:25 PM I'm the same....I just dont feel it anymore.....I got nothing to left to prove...I am fit, I know I can fight, in and out of the ring, I am disciplined but I just cant be bothered.....Its a tough sport that takes a big toll on your body. With my life still ahead of me, I just cant be bothered...
The odd time it just pulls you back to throw a few fists....but nothing on regular basis.
Im like Kid, I'm having more fun just jammin' on my guitar.
Pork Chop 02-02-2007, 02:24 PM Wow, I hope it's just that time of the year, with the bad weather and all- i mean seasonal depression's a proven thing.
I started out in martial arts.
before moving out here to texas i always did boxing with kickboxing. moving out here kinda forced me to just stick with boxing- the kickboxing gym wasn't my cup of tea. boxing's okay but in kickboxing it's a lot easier to displace daily wear & tear between shoulders (from punching) and legs (for kicks). With that much focused trauma it felt like it aged me quick. Sometimes exclusively focusing on punching gets kinda boring.
Last year I moved out here and watched all my hopes and dreams fall apart when that chick played me. For months on end i woke up wanting to kill someone, but couldn't. For a little while, at first, i couldn't even lose my temper- i'd turned it so far inward it leveled me. Part of me broke instead of firing back; which is a good thing coz the other option woulda lead to a whole bunch of dead bodies.
After that stuff went down, i had none of my friends from baltimore to lean on anymore either. i'd come out here to get married and now i was stuck out here wallowing in failure, with no support structure to get me outta my funk. it felt like solitary confinement a lot of times, stuck in my room, nobody to hang out with, didn't know where to go, didn't even know where i wanted to go.
i tried to use boxing as an outlet, but nobody at the gyms here seemed to give a dam about my training. i guess i'm not a natural athlete so none of the trainers really took an interest in me. in fact, i'd say they wanted me more as a trainer than a fighter.
in sparring i would end up being the guy the trainer's fav' fighter would measure himself against; which is like fighting 2 people when you don't have a trainer of your own. Got roughed up a little bit and no longer had the instinct or nerve to fire back. I started realizing that it wasn't in me anymore.
finally, this year i realized that i just wanna lose weight & boxing's just not getting me there. I decided to just walk away from it for a bit and focus on getting my body in the shape i need it. My body composition is what's holding me back in fighting anyway.
getting some stability back in my life, rebuilding a new support structure of friends & loved ones, and maybe even having a steady girl are all higher on my priority list right now than knockin someone out.
there's still some part of me that gets excited at showin off in front of a crowd, still a part of me that takes pain as an excuse to try harder. but i'm going to have to put that stuff on hold for a while until i figure out what i'm doing.
i don't even feel like boxing's given me all that much.
knowing that i could give anybody in any weight class something to think about, hasn't really gotten me that far in life. I've got impaired vision in my left eye and impaired hearing in my left ear, but no wins on my record.
i've sacrificed a lot for a long time and i have nothing to show for it. the sheer pointlessness of the last 5 years is mind-numbing. Over the last 6 months i've been trying to think of what i want to do with my life. Until that path gets laid out, boxing's more of a distraction than working towards what i want.
In boxing terms, I'm ancient, I'll be 30 this year. Maybe I'll get stuff back on track in time to try out for the masters division in amateur. in the meantime i've gotta focus on other stuff that's a bit more socially oriented.
I don't think there's a single sport lonelier than boxing.
GR@Y SKIEZ 02-02-2007, 02:46 PM ^^^ good post man, i know how exactly how you feel.
fraidycat 02-02-2007, 06:38 PM I'm kinda there, too. My fight last October was one of the high points of my life. Not even outfighting him; it was the not-pussing-out. Train till I'm ready and step through the ropes, show myself something.
I was driving home from the match when it hit me that many of the things that I've always hated about myself don't apply anymore. More to the point, maybe they never did. I was just scared to test them out; afraid of what I might find out about myself. Afraid I might not be tough, disciplined, determined, & brave enough, and whether or not I could remain decent and compassionate and merciful -- and most of all, composed -- under the heat of combat. I proved all that to myself. I don't know that I'll ever be as high again in my life as I was at that point. I was yelling out my car window, whooping and laughing. Yeah, it was an unjudged skills bout. Yeah, it was 16 oz. gloves. But for a guy like the guy I was a year ago? 200 lbs. of cookie dough who cries when he gets punched? I might as well have climbed Mt. Everest.
I drop into the gym a few times a week, but I take a week or two off here and there. I already got what I signed up for. My job, my family, my other hobbies, are going to come first. They have to. I did what I came to do. I enjoy boxing, but it's not my life. I'm amazed by what I've learned from doing it and I hope that others get the same from it, and I'll probably always keep it around as a hobby and a fitness regime. There's something sacred about the gym to me -- ritual nonlethal combat has been around since the dawn of time; this is something far older and far larger than any of us, and it resonates very deeply in me. Plus, I'm proud of myself every time I spar heavy and can just stay alive and return fire against a guy half my age -- and whom I would've crossed the street to avoid, a year ago.
I'm glad I did it, and I hope I always can. I may or may not fight again.
DA1CATAS 02-03-2007, 02:47 AM .... you guys need something.. I wish I could give it to you...whatever it is that makes me go back to the gym everyday after I've trained till i fall asleep in minutes arriving at home.... Maybe I have an alter ego.. cuz I hate coming home from the gym for the hell I put my body through... then couldn't be more eager on my way back the next day...
Seriously guys... What happened to the warrior mentality? Being better than someone else in a natural battle like environment... Don't even know what else to say... just motivate others.
TRICK
I take what you said seriously **(Haha, and DA1CATAS, I accept the challenge, I'll see you in 6 years bro...)** Thanx...Cuz I'll seriously look forward to it if we manage to stay in contact.Im just gonna ask you to remember the name "Catastrophe" a few years from now...won't take 6 though .... .. 3-4 years to train is a long time....And even thinking theres someone else training for a fight with me thats so far away makes me wanna run extra miles.. Hope it motivates you.
phillies04 02-03-2007, 10:28 AM I agree with this right here. Like I said before I get my motivation for people who have put me down in life. For example girlfriends, teachers, boss's and that keeps me going everyday to prove to them I am somebody. We have all been in this boat if its boxing or something in life. Feed off of someone who has put you down and use that as your motivation.
.... you guys need something.. I wish I could give it to you...whatever it is that makes me go back to the gym everyday after I've trained till i fall asleep in minutes arriving at home.... Maybe I have an alter ego.. cuz I hate coming home from the gym for the hell I put my body through... then couldn't be more eager on my way back the next day...
Seriously guys... What happened to the warrior mentality? Being better than someone else in a natural battle like environment... Don't even know what else to say... just motivate others.
TRICK
I take what you said seriously **(Haha, and DA1CATAS, I accept the challenge, I'll see you in 6 years bro...)** Thanx...Cuz I'll seriously look forward to it if we manage to stay in contact.Im just gonna ask you to remember the name "Catastrophe" a few years from now...won't take 6 though .... .. 3-4 years to train is a long time....And even thinking theres someone else training for a fight with me thats so far away makes me wanna run extra miles.. Hope it motivates you.
-Antonio- 02-03-2007, 12:15 PM Jesus Christ, this thread is depressing.
fraidycat 02-03-2007, 01:08 PM I agree with this right here. Like I said before I get my motivation for people who have put me down in life. For example girlfriends, teachers, boss's and that keeps me going everyday to prove to them I am somebody. We have all been in this boat if its boxing or something in life. Feed off of someone who has put you down and use that as your motivation.
There's that, too. Boxing has changed the way I look at life, and the way I handle confrontation. I know I'm stronger and braver and capable of a hell of a lot more than I ever thought I was -- I had always HOPED I was tough, all my life, but I never knew for sure. KNOWING I'm tough means not having to act tough. One more reason I'll never hang up my gloves completely.
But starting at age 35? I'll never be a world champ and I have no illusions thereof. Of course, that's no reason to quit. I just have to be realistic about it. It would be great to dominate Golden Gloves in the Masters if they ever did that out here -- AFAIK, there is one other guy in this whole city in my weight class and age range, so I guess if we had a GG I'd be in automatically, but that's not much of a field and it wouldn't prove much.
I gotta get to the gym.
Later.
i know it, every time i get in good shpe and fighting weight the fights are postponed ore off, ore i get another inflammation (my doc thinks i have artritis, which is not unlikely sinche my uncle has it too) and than i take some time off and ballon upp than get in too shape again and things gets ****ed upp again, but stop training permanently is not gonna happen i love it too much:boxing:
skyler 02-03-2007, 02:42 PM I havnt really lost my drive iv known i always wanted to be a boxer, hell back 8 years ago when i was still in primary school and teachers would ask you what you want to be when you grow up, iv always said i wanted to be a boxer.. they usually found it kind of strange but that was my dream..
But like someone mentioned you have to give up alot.. i only stopped drinking about a month or 2 ago.. which sucks because everytime i go to a party im usually pressured by mates and people around, who will say one drink wont hurt so i end up having one drink, and realize whats the point of drinking unless you get drunk because it certainly isnt good for you and i dont drink it because it tastes good.. but hey i usually end up having a great time.
I stopped all that after this one night we had a christmas party at a mates house i was pretty smashed, had 10 of these pulse drinks which are like 7% alch and then one guy at the party who was pratically sober asked if i wanted to have a friendly 1 on 1 ofcourse i accepted because i knew i had a big advantage my footwork, speed, reflexes and probably power even though he out weighed me by lots i ended up looking like a fool, my reflexes were 100% gone, i had no footwork at all, i would just be standing there with my gloves below my chin just getting pounded with punches..
I took a barrage of flush punches to the head without headgear and i was amazed that i was still standing, but really didnt feel any pain but i got really pissed off how i let myself get shown up infront of all my friends, especially since iv been boxing for about 7 years now, plus dieting and training really hard.. so i decided to stop drinking for rest of the night and drink alot of water to try and sober up so i could get a rematch, about 5 hours later i felt sober enough and asked for a rematch, by that time the kid said he was to "stoned" to fight and just wanted to chill for the rest of the night..
Thats basically my drive to be that good that when i spar him again he wont even be able to touch me, and every punch he throws will be answered by 4 of mine..
Trick 02-03-2007, 05:05 PM .... you guys need something.. I wish I could give it to you...whatever it is that makes me go back to the gym everyday after I've trained till i fall asleep in minutes arriving at home.... Maybe I have an alter ego.. cuz I hate coming home from the gym for the hell I put my body through... then couldn't be more eager on my way back the next day...
Seriously guys... What happened to the warrior mentality? Being better than someone else in a natural battle like environment... Don't even know what else to say... just motivate others.
TRICK
I take what you said seriously **(Haha, and DA1CATAS, I accept the challenge, I'll see you in 6 years bro...)** Thanx...Cuz I'll seriously look forward to it if we manage to stay in contact.Im just gonna ask you to remember the name "Catastrophe" a few years from now...won't take 6 though .... .. 3-4 years to train is a long time....And even thinking theres someone else training for a fight with me thats so far away makes me wanna run extra miles.. Hope it motivates you.
Haha,it does man, as crazy as that sounds... Although judging from your pic, unless you're kinda short, I really don't think you're a middleweight. If you're 6 feet like me and look like that, then I retire.haha. Well I plan to do a few years amateur before I go pro, I'm only 19, but give me a few years, I'll be ready. Well I don't really have a nickname yet, people say I have fast flurries, so I was thinkin Jon "The Tornado" Trick. Haha, whadya think? Good luck with the training man, keep that motivation.
Peace
Trick
the_painless 02-03-2007, 05:06 PM By the sounds of it maybe some of you folks need to look at a different sport for a while. Keep active and fit and try to brake up the daily routine of going to the gym. It would give you a good break from boxing while staying active. With any luck you might regain the hunger and motivation after being away from it for so long. If not then continue to enjoy other things. I do think it is wise though to get out of something if you are not going to be properly committed to. But try something else for a while and see how it goes
Trick 02-03-2007, 05:10 PM By the sounds of it maybe some of you folks need to look at a different sport for a while. Keep active and fit and try to brake up the daily routine of going to the gym. It would give you a good break from boxing while staying active. With any luck you might regain the hunger and motivation after being away from it for so long. If not then continue to enjoy other things. I do think it is wise though to get out of something if you are not going to be properly committed to. But try something else for a while and see how it goes
I agree. Well said
Mistadobalina 02-03-2007, 05:17 PM Hopefully I will reach one of you out there.. I encourage you all to train...as hard as possible...act like your already pro...or turning pro soon....because without boxers the sport will disappear... This deeply concerns me... I dont want it to be forgotten in America...
You have to have a different side... you might laugh but i'm serious... You can't be the same person you are in the ring outside of it... You must set part of your mind and body, drive, motivation,anger,enjoyment, and every other emotional feeling that you can think of aside for time to train...
Anger is a very expensive motivation....It wears on everything... but it works the best... for anyone having motivational problems.. dont hurt yourself but find ways other than this.
I hate this topic and hate to see you guys talk about quiting:nonono: or giving up and so on... and not having the passion....Your affecting me directly....
I think of being the biggest name to ever wear a pear of gloves...But no Great fighters became legends without great opponents...So My dream can't come true if no one else is dreaming of the same thing....So when I hear of people not just in my weightclass but any ones surrounding mine talkin about dropping it all.. I hurt:nonono: ...that could have been the guy that makes me a legend...
You might look at me as ****y or just talkin ****.. I'm serious about what I do... I've started moderately late at 20... so I have to make up alot.. but I'm learning something new everyday... If you guys won't help bring the sport back up... Then fallback and support someone you think can do it... Motivate others... The sport needs it... Do it that one favor atleast!
Catastrophe
:puppy_dog
:grouphug:
GR@Y SKIEZ 02-03-2007, 05:51 PM ive never really dreamed of being world champion...i only boxed to stay in shape, and sparred to stay sharp when im in the streets...ive been in street fights since i was 5 years old...boxing just helped me with my hand skills, i never thought about actually making it a career..
Trick 02-04-2007, 11:02 AM And DA1CATAS,
Where do you live man? I live in Toronto, so I'm assuming we're not even in the same country. I was just thinkin about that because I was wondering, can a registered canadian amateur fight in an amateur tourney/event in the States, and vice-versa? Well I know it CAN be done, I mean the majority of big events outside of like a boxing canada thing, are all in the states, and canadians go there. But I'm also assuming I can't sign up for whatever I want in the states too. Anyone know anything about that area? I know a couple of you are refs, so I thought I'd ask.
Peace
Trick
PessimisticPug 02-04-2007, 11:06 AM I've been finding after coming back after 4 years of college that I'm just not into boxing as a participant as much as when I was 17. For one thing, I'm a lot more self-conscious about brain damage; the human mind is too precious to waste engaging in boxing as a hobby. Going into it as a lifestyle when you have nothing else is one thing, but I have a lot of potential in so many other fields that boxing is just a dead end street for me when I really think about it.
My motivation for training is just about shot. The 20 minute drive to and from the gym seems longer than ever, and my coach is getting on my nerves. I find that where before if I were sick I'd drag myself to the gym anyways, now I'll find reasons to skip out more and more.
Worst of all, I just don't have the desire to hit a sparring partner, who's never done anything to me personally, in the face with anything approaching malevolence. I find myself throwing light punches, hitting to the body more than anything, and just not having any aggression in there at all. My hesitation when a counter opportunity presents itself usually means I'm the one who gets nailed instead.
To get to the heart of it, I don't think I really want to fight anymore. I'm more into my guitar, and having a good time with my friends. I'm more interested in partying than training, and making strangers laugh gives me more of a thrill than punching someone in the face. I've found my passion for the arts has expanded so much in these past few years, and there isn't lot of room for boxing.
Anyone else notice this in themselves? Seeing their passion for boxing die down? In a way it's sad, but I'm also excited about what's to come.
Not that I'm going to leave the forums, or stop watching the fights, or swear to never step foot in a gym. Nothing so definite and dramatic. I'm just not going to take it so seriously anymore.
There is no shame in it not remaining a priority through life. Its a HARD thing to do if you want to fight for real. Just getting in there and doing it for real will have taught you many things that you can lose later on in life. Life has pulled me from the ring but I cant say that Ive lost my hunger for a good throw. Ill probably be 55 years old thinking of how to roll in another fight. No dishonor at all about whats happening.............Rockin':boxing:
PeRc-piskot 02-05-2007, 04:22 AM Hopefully I will reach one of you out there.. I encourage you all to train...as hard as possible...act like your already pro...or turning pro soon....because without boxers the sport will disappear... This deeply concerns me... I dont want it to be forgotten in America...
You have to have a different side... you might laugh but i'm serious... You can't be the same person you are in the ring outside of it... You must set part of your mind and body, drive, motivation,anger,enjoyment, and every other emotional feeling that you can think of aside for time to train...
Anger is a very expensive motivation....It wears on everything... but it works the best... for anyone having motivational problems.. dont hurt yourself but find ways other than this.
I hate this topic and hate to see you guys talk about quiting:nonono: or giving up and so on... and not having the passion....Your affecting me directly....
I think of being the biggest name to ever wear a pear of gloves...But no Great fighters became legends without great opponents...So My dream can't come true if no one else is dreaming of the same thing....So when I hear of people not just in my weightclass but any ones surrounding mine talkin about dropping it all.. I hurt:nonono: ...that could have been the guy that makes me a legend...
You might look at me as ****y or just talkin ****:nonono: .. I'm serious about what I do... I've started moderately late at 20... so I have to make up alot.. but I'm learning something new everyday... If you guys won't help bring the sport back up... Then fallback and support someone you think can do it... Motivate others... The sport needs it... Do it that one favor atleast!
Catastrophe
WORD!
But i am sometimes confused... i am making UNI and i also want to be good at boxing. And sometimes i think, that i cant be good at boxing if i am also doing the UNI... this is my biggest concerne.
Can somebody be good at one thing while doing also some other thing. Must somebody concentrate just on one thing, if he wanted to be good at it? I hope you know, what i am talking about...
Pork Chop 02-05-2007, 12:22 PM Seriously guys... What happened to the warrior mentality?
told yah, mine went away when i lost someone i cared about to a 165lb kid 7 years younger than me. I coulda snapped his neck with my bare hands, without breaking a sweat, but woulda been more the loser for it. Being able to beat the heck out of someone couldn't get me what i wanted in life and STILL can't get me what i want.
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