What rules do they have concerning its use? What are their testing methods? What are the punishments if any? What is their history concerning it? Have they ever repremanded a fighter for using it?

They do not test for steroids as they are not illegal in Japan.

What rules do they have concerning its use? What are their testing methods? What are the punishments if any? What is their history concerning it? Have they ever repremanded a fighter for using it?

Probablly as common as ****ty fights in the UFC.. PS ufc fighters use roids as well.. if they takin xyience what else they be taking?? USA is leading manufacturer of steroids how do you think sylvia slimmed down so quick?? abott, tito and many others have all used.. or still do..

Actually its not as common in the US. Its an illegal sustance and the state Athletic Commissions can test for it too. MMA is not like pro wrestling, since wrestling is not an actual sporting contest. Thus wrestling is not overseen by the same agencies. Wrestling gets to police itself, mma is governed by state and Federal agencies.

Actually its not as common in the US. Its an illegal sustance and the state Athletic Commissions can test for it too. MMA is not like pro wrestling, since wrestling is not an actual sporting contest. Thus wrestling is not overseen by the same agencies. Wrestling gets to police itself, mma is governed by state and Federal agencies.

the testing of banned substances in UFC is pretty much limited to title fights, fighters that have already been caught and a few others at random...
It's a guaranteee that not all fighters are tested at every event the USA however in pride i am UNSURE if they have testing or not..

the problem with testing is you have to know what to test for and hyou have to have something that will detect it..
MANY BANNED SUBSTANCES ARE NOT DETECTIBLE

You are right there. But even though guys at smaller shows and non-title guys may not be tested often, they can be. Getting 6month-1year ban is a steep price for young guys coming up.

And they do not test in Japan. Trust me. I know a guy who trained with a PRIDE fighter. I wont name names, but the guy openly used steroids. Also, some guys who get caught in the US often turn up in Japan and often add alot of muscle(Josh Barnett). Do the math there.

PRIDE has steriod issues for sure. At the first PRIDE US show, Pawel Nastula, Vitor Belfort and Kevin Randleman all tested positive for banned substances

hmmm is this why pride fighters are the best in the world lhw champ?? they need that extra boost from steriods haha.

You are right there. But even though guys at smaller shows and non-title guys may not be tested often, they can be. Getting 6month-1year ban is a steep price for young guys coming up.

And they do not test in Japan. Trust me. I know a guy who trained with a PRIDE fighter. I wont name names, but the guy openly used steroids. Also, some guys who get caught in the US often turn up in Japan and often add alot of muscle(Josh Barnett). Do the math there.

Barnett already tested positive when he was the UFC Heavyweight champ.

One of my favorite fighters Silva, clearly uses too. Simply look at him when was fighting in the IVC or UFC, his head is nearly double the size now. This is a tale tale trait of steriod users, especially if are high doseage users, or they don't cycle on and off properly, and/or don't stack it properly in their cycle phase.

As far as the UFC being full of users, that is laughable. While I have no doubts that some have been able to slip through the cracks, the Neveda Athletic commission is top in the world when it comes to safety regulations and drug screening regulations. If anybody doubts this, look at their track record of smacking violators with the stiffest penalties around.

can't be good for up and comers like diaz to go into Pride feeling they have to use roids just to compete. or go off roids in order to change back to ufc or whatever. the proof being in the pudding, the pudding must be the tested integrity of these "fighters" PS it just pisses me off because martial arts are suppose to stand for something and mma shouldn't become such a commercial product that it just passes allong a message that says "In order to be a true badass you have to use steriods" i think it should be tested and regulated just to separate mma fighters from stupid crap like wrestling entertainment or bodybuilding.

not only all that, but mma raises the bar as to age not being a factor of competing, steriod use (at least unregulated) tarnishes that too.

thers 2 ways to look at this..

1. steroids fukin blow, anybody who needs them to keep shoulnd't be competing.. Why should someone with natural ability be forced to take roids just to stay in the game??

2.it's the fighters choice if they wnat to take them or not.. It makes for stronger, quicker fighters thus a better product..

I'm all for #1.. you wanna take roids, go do wrestling..

didnt time "the ****ty champ" sylvia get stripped of title because of roids?? ya i think so..

thers 2 ways to look at this..

1. steroids fukin blow, anybody who needs them to keep shoulnd't be competing.. Why should someone with natural ability be forced to take roids just to stay in the game??

2.it's the fighters choice if they wnat to take them or not.. It makes for stronger, quicker fighters thus a better product..

I'm all for #1.. you wanna take roids, go do wrestling..

didnt time "the ****ty champ" sylvia get stripped of title because of roids?? ya i think so..

Ya he used steriods, but he paid the price. Pride fighters can and are using that ****, ufc is all real, all natural ability and they do pretty damn good without that boost of roids.....pride

Ya he used steriods, but he paid the price. Pride fighters can and are using that ****, ufc is all real, all natural ability and they do pretty damn good without that boost of roids.....pride

ya u keep thinking that moron.. if UFC was clean they wouldnt need testing.. but they arent' so they do..
Bonnar was banned 9mnths dip**** for positive test even the TUFFERS are juicers and they fukin blow....
So don't fukin tell me your ****ty ufc can's dont need roids.. Cause they need it more than the pride fighters..
i'll give u this however, whether ufc fighters are on roids or not, the shows are consistantly ****ty so it can't be helpin them that much..

steroids doesnt make you a better fighter....theirs no point in taking them! also it leads to pre-mature injuries and makes you weaker the longer you fight ( ex. roid jones junior getting ktfo by tarver and glen)

Just about every serious competitor in MMA take steroids. Thats the truth.

For anyone knowledgable about steroids and know the tell tale signs, you can see the hardness/vascularity of MANY fighters that is not natural. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Eugene Jackson, prime Vitor Belfort just to name a few. And those are the guys that just do it a certain way to obtain those features, you dont have to be ripped to pieces to be juicing. Depends on how you take it, your genetics and your diet.

Lots of fighters look at their profession as their livelihood and rightfully so. They are there to put on a show for the public, they are the ones getting bashed in the head and putting their bodies on the line. They are also the ones who need to be on a level playing field with all the other fighters who are on it. They look at it as their RIGHT to take steroids.

Just about every serious competitor in MMA take steroids. Thats the truth.

For anyone knowledgable about steroids and know the tell tale signs, you can see the hardness/vascularity of MANY fighters that is not natural. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Eugene Jackson, prime Vitor Belfort just to name a few. And those are the guys that just do it a certain way to obtain those features, you dont have to be ripped to pieces to be juicing. Depends on how you take it, your genetics and your diet.

Lots of fighters look at their profession as their livelihood and rightfully so. They are there to put on a show for the public, they are the ones getting bashed in the head and putting their bodies on the line. They are also the ones who need to be on a level playing field with all the other fighters who are on it. They look at it as their RIGHT to take steroids.

that statement is wrong....fedor is the most sucessfull fighter dead or alive and he for sure doesnt take roids...along with cro-cop, and bj penn! like kid said, steroids doesnt make you a better fighter-point blank

friend of mine just thinks that fedor is on steriods because he's russion and it shouldn't even be considered that he isn't. I dissagree but that difference of opinion could be another thread. Sakuraba is another great fighter that i just doubt was ever on roids, probably should have been if anybady should have. that guy is small and soft around the gut like fedor. and scrappy i find what you said very interesting.

that statement is wrong....fedor is the most sucessfull fighter dead or alive and he for sure doesnt take roids...along with cro-cop, and bj penn! like kid said, steroids doesnt make you a better fighter-point blank

Tell me how you know "for sure" that Fedor and Crocop havent taken steroids? Because Fedor is chubby? Because CroCop seems like a standup fella? How do you "know", im curious....

Tell me how you know "for sure" that Fedor and Crocop havent taken steroids? Because Fedor is chubby? Because CroCop seems like a standup fella? How do you "know", im curious....

have you seen either of those guys?!?!?! you can pretty much tell when someone's using roids. and neither of those guys have any signs of any kind of steroid use, no oversized heads, no bulging, vainy, almost square, muscles, and no backne.

i've got bad skin on my back and i'm kinda buff, yet i don't take roids. i don't really think back acne is a steriod tell all. it's just a genetic trait for someone who has naturally higher hormonal lvls.

I see there is this big Pride vs UFC debate going on...From what I have seen, is Pride has a lot more natural born fighters and Martial artist, while UFC seems to be more former high school and collegiate wrestlers and failed boxers... It seems like Pride does more "fighting" where as UFC does more "wrestling"... Sometimes watching the UFC it makes me feel like I can get into the ring and whoop on some of them dudes while Pride is like "**** that" this mutha****as are killers...

have you seen either of those guys?!?!?! you can pretty much tell when someone's using roids. and neither of those guys have any signs of any kind of steroid use, no oversized heads, no bulging, vainy, almost square, muscles, and no backne.

Sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about.

Its one thing to take steroids to be a bodybuilder, its another thing to take steroids to perform at something. You don't have to look like Ronnie Coleman to be juicing. Bodybuilders stack numerous potent steroids, drain liquid from their body before competition, use diuretics to cut up and thats just a small amount of their practices that differ largely from athletes who take the stuff. Are you saying none of those fat sloppy offensive linemen in the NFL take steroids? Don't be naive.

Just like any substance, theres an art to everything... and not everything is so obvious from appearance. Josh Barnett was caught and ADMITTED to using steroids and hes a ****in sloptit.

your a ****ing moron^^^ you could tell when someones is using roids, one big sign is the pimples/acne on someones neck and back, and ***** tits ( such as barnett, he had/has both, ***** tits and acne on his neck)....as much as i hate to say it, kawa and gomi both take roids too-they got more acne than a 12 year old kid

well i won't repeat myself on the back acne, but also "***** tits" are caused by almost everything including nicotine, and caffeine, alcohol, and not only that but a lot of what you call ***** tits is not actually anything more than natural physical genetics and lifestyle choices like diet and stuff. ex.josh barnette.

well i won't repeat myself on the back acne, but also "***** tits" are caused by almost everything including nicotine, and caffeine, alcohol, and not only that but a lot of what you call ***** tits is not actually anything more than natural physical genetics and lifestyle choices like diet and stuff. ex.josh barnette.

when i first saw ken shamerock fight, he didnt have ***** tits...after a couple of years he somehow got them

same thing with barnett

Not all steroid users have all the symptoms. And not everyone who has symptoms are users. Its not uncommon for bjj/wrestlers to get acne on the back. Your rolling around on a mat for hours, sweating. I get back acne at times and I've never taken any steroids. I do train bjj though. It happens.