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m00ks 10-12-2004, 06:25 PM I only got into fights before I got interested in boxing. Now I'm kinda warm fro one hehehe. Which punch do you guys think would be more beneficial in street fighting? I think it's a straight punch cuz the other guy's prolly open for it. More important question, how much can boxing actually help you in defending yourself? Just how effective will your boxing be if you're being grabbed and kicked and ****?
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 06:32 PM I only got into fights before I got interested in boxing. Now I'm kinda warm fro one hehehe. Which punch do you guys think would be more beneficial in street fighting? I think it's a straight punch cuz the other guy's prolly open for it. More important question, how much can boxing actually help you in defending yourself? Just how effective will your boxing be if you're being grabbed and kicked and ****?
It can help you alot if you land the punch first on the guys chin or snotbox. I think the most useful punch is the overhand right although in fights you don't always get time to think what to do. The last fight i got into the guy ducked infront of me so i just punched him in the back of the head 3 times and threw him to the floor. Boxing can come in handy when been grabbed because if you can hit hard close range you could really bust someone up but overall against someone who can grapple good and take a punch it could be a lost cause.
The best thing to do in street fighting is anything to get your foe down BUT never beat them when you've got them down. That is something i have NEVER done in my life. A guy once pulled a rifle out on me and my friends so we disarmed him and beat him for awhile but didn't kick him in the head or anything. I know someone who got done for manslughter for going too far in a fight and i would never want to go down for anything like that. Fighting is pointless to begin with but you have to be prepared to resort to anything to win in the street in my opinion.
boxing is useful as most people doenst know how to fight or punch , and have wide open guards . a quick 3 punch combo work well cause most guys throw one punch at time , so if you combo it s kind of a surprise for the sucker. what is deadly is the muay thai knee head bash , i used it and it works , maybe too much.
if i had to throw one punch i would go with wez and choose the overhand right. or uppercut in the balls. just dont try high kicks , it s pointless and you look ridiculous.
m00ks 10-12-2004, 06:45 PM I don't really know how good combos will work because the giys can be downright trying to tackle you. I think Wez was right that you have to hit them first and get that initial damage. Also you have to be prepared that theses guys will also be using everything from knees, elbows and probably any blunt objects that they see fit. One thing I hate about getting into fights is cuz fights these days specially in my area aren't relying on fists but on knives, guns and ****. So you really never know. Sux cuz if it were hands on, I wouldn't hesitate as much.
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 06:47 PM I don't really know how good combos will work because the giys can be downright trying to tackle you. I think Wez was right that you have to hit them first and get that initial damage. Also you have to be prepared that theses guys will also be using everything from knees, elbows and probably any blunt objects that they see fit. One thing I hate about getting into fights is cuz fights these days specially in my area aren't relying on fists but on knives, guns and ****. So you really never know. Sux cuz if it were hands on, I wouldn't hesitate as much.
That is bad, it shows a weak person who can only fight with weapons. They aren't real men they are little *****es.
That is bad, it shows a weak person who can only fight with weapons. They aren't real men they are little *****es.
i never attacked someone with a weapon but i had to use a knife to defend myself , and a few time a bottle or a broken bottle.
i have no problems using it , i defended myself .
m00ks 10-12-2004, 06:56 PM i never attacked someone with a weapon but i had to use a knife to defend myself , and a few time a bottle or a broken bottle.
i have no problems using it , i defended myself .
That sux though, it enevr ends well with weapons
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:09 PM you have to be strong to come out on top,Street fighting is not fun at all, anything goes. Boxing is the last thing or first you should try to do. Try landing the 1st punch right to the Nose, make his eyes get full of water, if you fail, keep trying. if they try to takkle you then its all body and moves.Put the power into it and go at it UFC style.
m00ks 10-12-2004, 07:14 PM you have to be strong to come out on top,Street fighting is not fun at all, anything goes. Boxing is the last thing or first you should try to do. Try landing the 1st punch right to the Nose, make his eyes get full of water, if you fail, keep trying. if they try to takkle you then its all body and moves.Put the power into it and go at it UFC style.
Mann I always wondered if jabbing hard and boxing the guy silly by moving would actually work. :confused:
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:18 PM Mann I always wondered if jabbing hard and boxing the guy silly by moving would actually work. :confused:
It will as long as the guy tries to box you instead of wrestling. If you have a guy standing in front willing to trade,it should be the better boxers fight (Street Fight)
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 07:20 PM I've noticed in alot of street fights that people rarely punch to the stomach too. Most guys can take a good punch to the face but a good punch to the stomach and floor any man.
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM yeah tell me bout it, I once was floored due to a bike running into me right on my stomach,hurt like hell
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 07:29 PM yeah tell me bout it, I once was floored due to a bike running into me right on my stomach,hurt like hell
:eek: That must have hurt bad
The only time i didn't fight was when a boxer when i was 15 years old punched me in the stomach. He was the toughest in my school and someone told lies about me to get me beat up because they weren't man enough to do it themselves. As soon as he hit me the wind flew right out and i got horrible cramping feelings in my stomach. I just sat down because that was the only thing i could do, it zapped all the power out of me. Strangely enough we became good friends after that! Ironic really. :D
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:37 PM :eek: That must have hurt bad
The only time i didn't fight was when a boxer when i was 15 years old punched me in the stomach. He was the toughest in my school and someone told lies about me to get me beat up because they weren't man enough to do it themselves. As soon as he hit me the wind flew right out and i got horrible cramping feelings in my stomach. I just sat down because that was the only thing i could do, it zapped all the power out of me. Strangely enough we became good friends after that! Ironic really. :D
thats cool that you 2 did, yeah getting the wind KO of you sucks. I try to gasp for air like a fish out of water. :o
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 07:40 PM thats cool that you 2 did, yeah getting the wind KO of you sucks. I try to gasp for air like a fish out of water. :o
:D It's awful, not as bad as been punched in the balls but it's still very very bad. That why when i spar i always keep my guard low because that is my weakness. I can take good punches to the face which is nothing to be proud of i guess but any good ones to the stomach and thats it. Even the ones you see to the stomach hurt like mad.
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:45 PM :D It's awful, not as bad as been punched in the balls but it's still very very bad. That why when i spar i always keep my guard low because that is my weakness. I can take good punches to the face which is nothing to be proud of i guess but any good ones to the stomach and thats it. Even the ones you see to the stomach hurt like mad.
I would lay on the floor of a jump and have them drop the medicine ball from all sorts of heights. At first it hurt and I was aching for days sometimes weeks. But it has paid off, even now that I haven’t been in the gym for sometime I can still take a good body blow
oldgringo 10-12-2004, 07:45 PM It's best to try and throw a short, hard, straight punch and take out their nose first. Broken nose = no sight and lots of pain. My last two fights were ended by straight lefts...although the first one was alot easier because I had already tackled the guy and his head hit the concrete pretty hard. That ****er stabbed me. People who pull a knife in a fist fight are *****es who can't fight. Or convicts... :D
oldgringo 10-12-2004, 07:47 PM :D It's awful, not as bad as been punched in the balls but it's still very very bad. That why when i spar i always keep my guard low because that is my weakness. I can take good punches to the face which is nothing to be proud of i guess but any good ones to the stomach and thats it. Even the ones you see to the stomach hurt like mad.
Agreed...next fight I get into I swear I'm gonna punish the ****er to the body.
bigdlb12 10-12-2004, 07:48 PM It's best to try and throw a short, hard, straight punch and take out their nose first. Broken nose = no sight and lots of pain. My last two fights were ended by straight lefts...although the first one was alot easier because I had already tackled the guy and his head hit the concrete pretty hard. That ****er stabbed me. People who pull a knife in a fist fight are *****es who can't fight. Or convicts... :D
yeah but only if the knife was homemade had on the bottom of it "made in Jail"
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 07:50 PM I would lay on the floor of a jump and have them drop the medicine ball from all sorts of heights. At first it hurt and I was aching for days sometimes weeks. But it has paid off, even now that I haven’t been in the gym for sometime I can still take a good body blow
It's good that it's paid of for you still. I've used the medicine ball too and i do situps on a consistant basis but it's still my weak spot. It annoys me alot to be honest because when someone is knocking the wind out of you your punches lose there snap alot more. I have based my style on James Toneys and i've found it good for defending body blows and the shoulder is used for defense of the chin. You can take alot of hits on the arms but the odd one or two always get through and i know about it. :D
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 07:53 PM Agreed...next fight I get into I swear I'm gonna punish the ****er to the body.
You'll win more fights doing that trust me. Any normal person who hasn't trained but is just generally tough in fights won't stand a chance if you land cleanly. Body shots are easier to get in close range too instead of trying to hit for the head. Most people who don't know how to fight will wildly swing a fist any old how to your face.
oldgringo 10-12-2004, 07:57 PM It's good that it's paid of for you still. I've used the medicine ball too and i do situps on a consistant basis but it's still my weak spot. It annoys me alot to be honest because when someone is knocking the wind out of you your punches lose there snap alot more. I have based my style on James Toneys and i've found it good for defending body blows and the shoulder is used for defense of the chin. You can take alot of hits on the arms but the odd one or two always get through and i know about it. :D
The only thing that his style leaves you open for is right hands upstairs...is that correct? I love that style. It's very effective if your reflexes are good and you can roll the shoulder. It also looks slick.
Yarmez 10-12-2004, 07:58 PM boxing is a handy weapon, but i find in street fights it's very reckless, no style, and just swingnig haymakers like mad.
If you step back and measure your shots it could be very handy, but if he wrestles you or tackles you to the ground, thenthrow all that out the window, plus it's street fighting remeber, you could get mobbed or smashed by like 7 people, then your boxing counts for ****.
Also i feel a good push kick or head kick to start a street fight is always a winner, because when you are in a street fight, the person you are fighting always ecpects you to throw a punch first, but if you throw a kick it sort of puts them off, i mean it's worked for me.
oldgringo 10-12-2004, 08:01 PM boxing is a handy weapon, but i find in street fights it's very reckless, no style, and just swingnig haymakers like mad.
If you step back and measure your shots it could be very handy, but if he wrestles you or tackles you to the ground, thenthrow all that out the window, plus it's street fighting remeber, you could get mobbed or smashed by like 7 people, then your boxing counts for ****.
Also i feel a good push kick or head kick to start a street fight is always a winner, because when you are in a street fight, the person you are fighting always ecpects you to throw a punch first, but if you throw a kick it sort of puts them off, i mean it's worked for me.
I can see how that'd work. A good hard straight kick to the stomach while they're rushing you will make em think again. :D
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 08:01 PM The only thing that his style leaves you open for is right hands upstairs...is that correct? I love that style. It's very effective if your reflexes are good and you can roll the shoulder. It also looks slick.
Yeah although i use the left shoulder alot to defend my chin. I get alot of hits on the top of my head from right hands. I like it because the one-two comes so naturally. The style can be very slick, it's a laid back style too and thats another reason why i like it. Defensivley it's sound and offensivley it's sound too. :D Left hooks are a cool counter for that style too.
Dark Destroyer 10-12-2004, 08:03 PM boxing is a handy weapon, but i find in street fights it's very reckless, no style, and just swingnig haymakers like mad.
If you step back and measure your shots it could be very handy, but if he wrestles you or tackles you to the ground, thenthrow all that out the window, plus it's street fighting remeber, you could get mobbed or smashed by like 7 people, then your boxing counts for ****.
Also i feel a good push kick or head kick to start a street fight is always a winner, because when you are in a street fight, the person you are fighting always ecpects you to throw a punch first, but if you throw a kick it sort of puts them off, i mean it's worked for me.
What kind of kick Yarmez? The only time i kick is if they are on the floor and then it's in the back or stomach only.
LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 08:28 PM Definitely straighter punches work best in real fights. Unschooled fighters swing. It is instinct. Straighter punches will get there first.
Yarmez 10-12-2004, 08:38 PM What kind of kick Yarmez? The only time i kick is if they are on the floor and then it's in the back or stomach only.
Usually a nice firm push kick to the bread basket, or if i'm feel ing adveturous i'll try a head kick
LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 08:40 PM Solar plexus shots are good. As long as you hit them right.
Yarmez 10-12-2004, 08:41 PM **** a kick in the balls if you are desperate.
and the guy is 7'2 and 500 pounds
a-crimson-mess 10-12-2004, 08:59 PM i think the first punch you throw in a street fight should be forearm to the throat....... street fights are always dirty its instinct to win any way you can.. so dont wait to have your back on the ground to fight dirty
m00ks 10-12-2004, 09:24 PM **** this thread is getting sadistic. lol
Me I was thinking headbutt...but I dunno if that ****'s goonna get me dizzy.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 10-12-2004, 09:34 PM Boxing helps u develop accuracy speed and power. Which all come in handy in a street fight. Some people like to let the other guy throw the first punch, i say dont be stupid u get the opportunity you be first. Remember there are no gloves or headgear in streetfighting, anything goes. Dont think too much or ull end up choking and getting dropped or quitting cus of doubt. You gotta have full conviction or u got no business fighting anyone in the street.
Dr.Depravity 10-12-2004, 09:35 PM I've noticed in alot of street fights that people rarely punch to the stomach too. Most guys can take a good punch to the face but a good punch to the stomach and floor any man.
This is very true. I finished a guy off with about 3 or 4 left hooks to the body. and Im very right handed.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 10-12-2004, 09:37 PM BTW forget about breaking ur opponent down, most street fights last only a few seconds some even less, immidiate damage is the only thing that is gonna make ur opponent think, and once he starts thinking he is done.
Silverfox 10-12-2004, 10:49 PM Hi All!
I'm new to this forum and hope to get to know all of you. It's an interesting discussion. Training & technique in any discipline is the key to all forms of fighting. Street fighting is no exception.
My youngest son is a 5th Degree Taekwondo exponent. His 'moves' and fighting technique are 2nd nature to him. He has NEVER looked for, nor instigated a fight. I have heard first hand from his friend, that when he became irrevocably 'forced' into a fight a few years ago...it lasted exactly 15 seconds. A feint to the knee with his left leg & then an axe kick to the neck & shoulder area. 7,8,9,10...OUT! In close, grappling..the training and methodology is even more deadly. Short, brutal jabs & strikes to all known pressure point areas. Heavy pain & loss of mobility.
Any form of fighting is only for the trained or experienced person.
For those of you who are unaccustomed to fighting...as I am now, at my age...simply grab a guy by his balls..squeeze like hell and hold on until he drops & literally passes out. It works every time and eliminates missed punches or getting hit too often! LOL.
m00ks 10-12-2004, 11:11 PM Welcome Silverfox. Hope you enjoy the site.
I'd rather not touch his balls lol although I'd have to agree it would probably work. :D
Daym 5th degree taekwondo exponent :eek: Wouldn't wanna cross that guy.
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If you jabbed hard at the nose a guy who is coming right at you, would the guy feel it or would he walk right through it?
mr.thraz 10-13-2004, 11:54 PM I only got into fights before I got interested in boxing. Now I'm kinda warm fro one hehehe. Which punch do you guys think would be more beneficial in street fighting? I think it's a straight punch cuz the other guy's prolly open for it. More important question, how much can boxing actually help you in defending yourself? Just how effective will your boxing be if you're being grabbed and kicked and ****?
belive me if you can box reasonable well, a streetfight will be no problem.
you have to be ready for anything though, and it's probably better to fight from the outside to avoid a tackle, but all and all a street fight is cake.
phallus 10-17-2004, 01:10 AM If you're streetfighting ( no gloves ) i'd recommend going only to the body because you might break your knuckles on someone's hard head. Throw a left hook to the liver, if that doesn't put him down, nothing will
I would lay on the floor of a jump and have them drop the medicine ball from all sorts of heights. At first it hurt and I was aching for days sometimes weeks. But it has paid off, even now that I haven’t been in the gym for sometime I can still take a good body blow
When in a street one rule always applies, never stand within arms reach unless you are doing something. And I also disagree with you guys saying boxing is worthless in street fights. Let me tell you something having boxing skills is very beneficial in a fight. Because boxers know how to throw punches correctly, and they also know when to punch and not to punch. The most effective punch in a fight is the punch you don't see coming. Also, throw the uppercut right, he will be gone. Also, walking away from a fight does not necessarily make you a coward. Sometimes it is not worth it.
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Ranger2408 10-17-2004, 10:16 AM come on i will take you ALL on all at once you bunch of wimps :p
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elveiel 10-17-2004, 11:15 AM I only got into fights before I got interested in boxing. Now I'm kinda warm fro one hehehe. Which punch do you guys think would be more beneficial in street fighting? I think it's a straight punch cuz the other guy's prolly open for it. More important question, how much can boxing actually help you in defending yourself? Just how effective will your boxing be if you're being grabbed and kicked and ****?
****! i wish i had of seen this thread sooner!!!
If your a KO puncher boxing is the perfect self defence.
The reason i know this is because i have had to defend myself a lot, when i was at school i was known a being handy with my fists, people always started trouble to prove a point, i always won but it was messy..
I started boxing just before i left school(about 15yrs old) and i was good at it a couple of years later. I had a lot of street fight at about 19/20 year old(while i was on my own with my girl), it was always 2-4 trying their luck(sometimes the gang were bigger but never more than 4 fighting).
To cut a long story short i ****ed them all up with single shots, i put one bloke in a coma, to list some other injurys they got - broken jaw, broken cheek bone, broken nose, bad cuts inside(mouth) and out etc.
i was on bail, in and out of court for different events for 3 years solid. all self defence, all got kicked out of court!!
If your good boxing is the perfect seft defence, but never start trouble because i was up for thing like gbh, abh, affray etc and if found guilty it could have been 3yrs inside.
The best shot is right upper cut, most non fighter throw a over hand right which is easy to slip, they always leave their chin out and an uppercut is the best KO in the book
Mr. Ryan 10-19-2004, 02:09 PM I box in street fights all the time. Sometimes when its some idiot I'm fighting, I'll even jab and ****. I throw straight rights and left hooks and uppercuts. I have entertaining street fights.
m00ks 10-19-2004, 05:14 PM I box in street fights all the time. Sometimes when its some idiot I'm fighting, I'll even jab and ****. I throw straight rights and left hooks and uppercuts. I have entertaining street fights.
Being bare knuckled and ****, a jab can probably break someones nose.
Dr.Depravity 10-19-2004, 05:16 PM Its amazing how easily the nose is broken.
jack_the_rippuh 10-19-2004, 05:48 PM Use Jailhouse Rock...if you don't know how, private message me...I'll hook you up.
I box in street fights all the time. Sometimes when its some idiot I'm fighting, I'll even jab and ****. I throw straight rights and left hooks and uppercuts. I have entertaining street fights.
sure when you fight a non trained guy , he seems to hit soooooooooo slow and so wild with no defense.
you can own most people your size being let s say a good amateur.
and yes a jab breaks a nose , i tried , it work. ;)
marvelous_TG 01-26-2005, 06:09 AM ****! i wish i had of seen this thread sooner!!!
If your a KO puncher boxing is the perfect self defence.
The reason i know this is because i have had to defend myself a lot, when i was at school i was known a being handy with my fists, people always started trouble to prove a point, i always won but it was messy..
I started boxing just before i left school(about 15yrs old) and i was good at it a couple of years later. I had a lot of street fight at about 19/20 year old(while i was on my own with my girl), it was always 2-4 trying their luck(sometimes the gang were bigger but never more than 4 fighting).
To cut a long story short i ****ed them all up with single shots, i put one bloke in a coma, to list some other injurys they got - broken jaw, broken cheek bone, broken nose, bad cuts inside(mouth) and out etc.
i was on bail, in and out of court for different events for 3 years solid. all self defence, all got kicked out of court!!
If your good boxing is the perfect seft defence, but never start trouble because i was up for thing like gbh, abh, affray etc and if found guilty it could have been 3yrs inside.
The best shot is right upper cut, most non fighter throw a over hand right which is easy to slip, they always leave their chin out and an uppercut is the best KO in the book
can you tell us some more about your streetfighting experience, like where the guys you fought much bigger, does it matter that someone is much bigger and taller than you in a street fight, and WTF did you do to put a guy in a coma? and just usefull tips.
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